Black Shoe Diaries Q&A With The Daily Gopher
And we're back. It's been a rough two weeks. Penn State fans had to sit around and listen to everyone with a microphone or twitter account say the sky is falling and Joe should go. Well it's not and he shouldn't. This week, Jeff from The Daily Gopher took a few minutes to answer some questions. And as you'll read, he doesn't seem to have any faith in his Golden Gophers.
Also, be sure to check out part two of the Q&A over at The Daily Gopher, where my delusions of awesomeness shine.
Since the Tim Brewster hot seat is no longer hot, who would you like to see as the next coach of the Golden Gophers? Is there any circumstance in which Minnesota pulls a Kansas State (they brought back Bill Snyder) and brings back their former coach, Glen Mason?
The Daily Gopher: Hard to say who we'd like for the next coach, since all the big names (Gary Patterson, Chris Petersen, Jim Harbaugh, Al Golden) will likely say no. My top choice right now is Brady Hoke at San Diego State.
As for bringing back Glen Mason? Hell no. Bill Snyder took K-State from perhaps the worst D1 program in the country in 1989, to four Big 12 North division titles and a Big 12 title. The man retired, on his own accord in 2005, and they renamed the stadium after him.
Mason was fired in 2006 because after he didn't get the Ohio St job he thought he deserved in 2003, his attitude and work ethic declined. He was a smarmy, arrogant SOB who definitely was the best coach Minnesota has had in decades, but had worn out his welcome.Firing him was the correct move. Hiring as his replacement a glorified cheer leader who was a career position coach with ZERO experience as a head coaching or even coordinator? From day one that was a mistake, and the past four years have only reinforced it.
What are your three keys to the game?
TDG: Besides Penn State missing their flight out and missing the game? Or AD Joel Maturi getting wise and also firing DC Kevin Cosgrove before Saturday? If neither of those things happen, I don't see Minnesota winning, because it'll just mean more of the same sloppy, undisciplined play we've seen from them all year.
How do you see things playing out on Saturday?
TDG: See above. We needed to fire our DC as much as the head coach. It's like Cosgrove is purposely trying to call the opposite plays defensive calls from the ones that would actually work. It would be amazing to watch for his total ineptitude if it wasn't so sad and frustrating. Seriously, your offense will find it's groove both running and passing. Whichever you want will work. Just look at Purdue last week- redshirt frosh QB Rob Henry looked like a deer in the headlights in his first start against Northwestern. Last week against Minnesota? He was wearing Drew Brees' old #15, and it was hard to tell them apart. Purdue shredded out defense. Just like everyone shreds our defense. So you'll be fine. Just don't take it as an omen for your season offensively, because things might be more difficult the rest of the way when you go back to playing real defenses.
The Gophers are currently 1-6 and 0-4 at home. TCF Bank Stadium doesn't seem to be providing the home field advantage many thought it would. How can the Gophers turn this thing around? Is it more of a personnel issue?
TDG: As you can probably guess from the previous answers, it's not as much about personnel as it is the coaching. On both sides of the ball. And special teams. It's been flat awful. Most of us Gopher fans truly believe there's enough talent here to be 5-2 (losses to USC and Wisconsin), but our coaching has been so inept that we're 1-6.
On paper, it looks like Minnesota has all the tools to succeed offensively. Why do you think this 2010 team is struggling?
TDG: Because OC Jeff Horton (now the interim HC) believes that Minneapolis is Madison West, so we have to run the ball every down like Wisconsin does. He fails to see that even if you're really, really committed to the run, and you try really, really hard to do it, that this team can't and won't run the ball consistently well.
What he also fails to see is that this could be a good passing team. I don't love Adam Weber, but he has some weapons to throw to: Da'Jon McKnight and MarQueis Gray are two very athletic receivers who are both at least 6'3, TE Eric Lair has developed into one of the most reliable pass catching TE's in the conference, and Bryant Allen is a reliable slot target.
But you'd never know it from the game plan. Case in point, again from last week: Minnesota has the aforementioned pair of 6'3 athletic receivers. Purdue started a pair of 5'9 corners. How many shots did we take downfield to take advantage of this? Zero. We took zero shots. Didn't attempt it even once. What we DID do quite often was run the ball into the line of scrimmage for minimal gain over and over and over. Good times.
Penn Statehas already shown it can't score anything but field goals in the red zone. How confident are you that the Minnesota defense can continue the trend of stopping this struggling Penn State offense?
TDG: I have no confidence whatsoever. None. Zero. Zilch. I have a total lack of confidence in Minnesota stopping Penn State's offense at all. Trust me, watching Penn State Saturday you'll swear it's Kerry Collins at QB and Ki-Jana Carter and Curtis Enis at TB and Derrick Williams and Deon Butler at WR. Maybe Kyle Brady at TE. Seriously, they'll look like the best offense you've ever seen. And it's all thanks to DC Kevin Cosgrove. He needs business cards that say "I can make your offense look amazing!" Can you tell I hate the guy? Just a little?
Let's take a trip down memory lane. The 1999 Penn State vs. Minnesota game is a game that still haunts Nittany Lion fans to this day (it is also the game that many believe started the "dark years" for PSU). Give us a Minnesota fans take on that game.
TDG: I might be missing one, but if that's not THE biggest moment for the Gophers in the last four or five decades, I don't know what would be. That '99 team might of been our best in that span as well. It was an enormous win at the time for us.
Minnesota had great success in the Big Ten when they had a power running game (Marion Barber III, etc). Do you think the next coach should go back to that style and ditch the Spread?
TDG: Not necessarily. We're supposed to have a "power running game" now, but it sucks. The spread was actually the most successful offense we had under Brewster, and with a guy like MarQueis Gray available to run it, I'd prefer it right now.
Still, as you guys probably know, the key to a good offense is a good coach and staff to teach it and execute it, and we do not have a good coaching staff that can do that right now.
What player do you think will have an impact on the game for Minnesota on Saturday?
TDG: Wait a positive or negative impact? For a negative impact pick anyone on defense. Really, anyone. Go ahead, take the Gopher two deep depth chart on defense, close your eyes, and wherever your finger lands is the correct answer. It's a fun game.
Any hope of a positive impact would have to come from either McKnight, Lair, or Gray. But again, in order for them to make an impact Minnesota will have to throw, and we only throw when the game is clearly out of reach and there's no other choice.
Penn State's defense has been hit hard by injuries and inconsistent play (especially by the run game). Can the Gophers run over those Penn State defense?
TDG: No. We haven't had a good running game since the first two weeks of the season when we ran over MTSU and South Dakota. For the record, that's a Sun Belt school and a 1-AA program. Since we've started playing real defenses, we haven't run consistently on anyone. No reason that would change this week.
What are your thoughts on the Big Ten expansion and do you like the division splits?
TDG: Honestly, Gopher fans could not be happier. Despite being completely non-competitive lately with our three biggest rivals (Wisconsin, Iowa and Michigan) we not only will get to play all three every year, but we also get a much-coveted annual game with Nebraska (who has beaten us like 14 straight times, including an 84-13 game that almost erased Minnesota from the face of the earth). Despite our lack of competitiveness against them, and really everyone else, I still couldn't be happier we get those games every year. Yeah, the schedule will be insane every year (remember our cross over is with Wisconsin), but its well worth it.
Well there it is. If you read comments from both teams, you would think Penn State and Minnesota were entering a pillow fight match on Saturday. Well they aren't, and if the Nittany Lions don't beat the Gophers on Saturday, BSD Mike is going to have to sound the alarm.
105 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
That 99 game was my senior year, I felt sick for weeks and still have nightmares.
Hire Mike Pettine Jr!!!!!!!!
Knock it down!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets Go to the bar....
Hire Mike Pettine Jr!!!!!!!!
by SweepTheLeg on Oct 21, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I was a freshman
What a way to start off my time in college. For years watching PSU anytime a game was close in the 4th quarter I always had confidence that somehow someway something screwy was going to happen at the end of the game to screw us out of a win. It took the 2004 IU goal line stand for that to change.
by catesinator on Oct 21, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
that game still makes me want to cry
one hailmary + one field goal = a heartbroken and distraught 15 year old
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
Me too
The worst part is there is little chance Penn State can ever do to Minnesota what it did to us because they are never going to be #2 in the nation that late in the season.
Blogging about D.C. Baseball since April '04. Penn State alum, so I blog about it too. Also partial to the Washington Capitals and the rest of the D.C. teams, plus the New York Yankees and Yale football.
I still have a nice
shiny commemorative coin and a rapidly deteriorating t-shirt to remember the fun.
Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western
Man is this guy sandbagging us...
or is he legitimately dejected? Any defense that can make our offense look like ‘94 PSU has got to be awful…and I’m not buying it.
House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....
You're kidding, right?
Minnesota is ranked the following, nationally…
102nd in rush defense
64th in pass defense
97th in total defense
98th in scoring defense
But don’t let that 64th place ranking fool you. They’re ranked 118th in passing efficiency defense.
They are 66th in 1st down defense
114th (t) in 3rd down defense
114th (t) in 4th down defense
Though, admittedly, Penn State’s offensive rankings aren’t markedly better than Minnesota’s defensive rankings…
movable object say hello to resistable force
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
by jman07 on Oct 21, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
and i thought morale was rough around here
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
Oh ya, it must be tough for you guys
Having one of the most historic and successful football teams in the nation. Need I remind you that you are one of only six FBS teams to have won 800 games?
And if you feel that takes into account too much ancient history of which the current fan base was not apart of, you’ve averaged 8 wins a season since 2000.
You know nothing of ‘rough morale’.
by Jayrome007 on Oct 21, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
This needs to be green
for perspective alone. 8 wins/season includes the dark years, too.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Oct 21, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
wow, yeah
definitely hard to remember that there are other teams that would gladly take one of the worst 10 year spas in PSU history
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 21, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
easy killer
obviously we have a great program to be proud of. the intent of my comment was for those who think the sky is falling at psu
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
I wasn't trying to be mean
I just get so frustrated when naivety clouds the minds of the opulent.
For god’s sake, be thankful for what you have. Especially when you’re rich. (And this goes beyond just football…)
i couldnt agree more
the more rational fans realize how good PSU has been and currently is. last week there were a multitude of arguments over penn state being terrible/mediocre/average or whatever adjective you want, hopefully some people realize it could be much worse. hence why youre comment has been turned green and rightfully so
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
Thanks.
Wow, you guys are so much more appreciative of such things than our neighbors to the east (Badger fans).
Amen
You’ve put into words what every PSU fan who has ever been called a “Kool-aide drinker” or “apologist” has struggled to say for the past few years. We have a down year every once in a while just like everyone else, but PSU always comes back. This is why I don’t jump off the ledge.
Opulence: we has it.
But we also like winnings the games. So when Scarecrow and Turnstile can’t block a bunnyrabbit, we jump in it. (turns and kisses pet gopher, giggles incessantly)
Lord that commercial makes me laugh. I will actually stop ffwding my DVR when it comes on.
Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater
i couldnt agree more..love. it.
looks at governors bell trophy or land grant trophy..points at governors bell trophy
“tis one”
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
I would like a small pet giraffe.
"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD
thank you!
several level headed people here have stated this
good luck with the new coach (after Saturday, sorry)
Whatever
I am starting to love Minnesota fans.
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately...
we lose sight of this too easily and come off as a bunch of spoiled brats. Thanks for keeping us grounded.
House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....
by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 21, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
But...
Was it an ELITE Personal Attack?
You can't be serious, man! You cannot be serious! His foot was on the line! It was ON THE LINE! He was clearly out! How could you possibly call him in!?
"I'm going to award a point against you, Mr. OBrienSchofieldismyHero."
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the most negative thing I've ever read
Purdue shredded out defense. Just like everyone shreds our defense. So you’ll be fine. Just don’t take it as an omen for your season offensively, because things might be more difficult the rest of the way when you go back to playing real defenses.
It should probably be submitted to “This Week in Schadenfreude”.
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
I haven't been able to correctly predict how any of our games would go this season...
but I’m willing to bet we come out of the gate slow on Saturday, give Minny confidence and the game ends up being way closer than it should be.
Don’t get me wrong, I hope we win and I’ll take that…but I don’t see it being all sunshine and farts for this PSU team.
House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....
Jeff from The Daily Gopher is now my favorite non-PSU fan.
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2010 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
yeah...
he really straightened us out on that whole “Glen Mason was a decent guy/coach” theory.
House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....
by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 21, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Mason
I was surprised to hear him say that about Mason. I didn’t realize Mason was such a DB.
If nothing else, Jeff was very honest. Do I think Minny is going to lay down on Saturday? No – a little sandbagging never hurt anyone.
Joe
@QBsneak12
i have absolutely ZERO idea what to expect
penn state could come out and win by 40. minnesota could come out and win by 3 touchdowns. penn state could score 8 wagner field goals and win 24-21. i honestly have no idea. so im going to expect struggles for both teams and lots of fail. that way if things go well, i can be pleasantly surprised.
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
I'm not sure if Minnesota could beat the State College Little Lions by three touchdowns.
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Bishop McDevitt then?
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Joey, Steven or Hazel Bishop or not.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.
by DerryPharmer on Oct 21, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah. They're still delusional.
One look at Mason’s record shows that he took over a struggling program and made it into a team that won 7-10 games. Sure, he had some struggles. But what exactly does it mean when a coach has “worn out his welcome.” That’s nonsense talk. Minnesota hasn’t had a rich football tradition in something like thirty years. Before 1999, the last time they won 8 games in a season was 1967!
They ran him out of town thinking they could do better and ended up in a worse position. Claiming that they were right to let him go now is only deluding themselves into thinking they made the right decision then. If Mason stays, posts 7-9 wins a year, makes Minnesota a reasonably successful program, then retires or leaves, he’s made the job more attractive. What they did when they fired him was cloud the relative prestige of the job.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Oct 21, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends
If it is true that he was actively seeking a job at another school within the conference especially….I couldn’t have fired him quick enough.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
Come on, that's not fair.
It’s Minnesota football.
Imagine Penn State is terrible at basketball. OK, we’re not imagining. But imagine that Penn State hires a new coach and he turns the program into and consistent NIT team and tournament team once every four years. Plus, he has an offensive system that just seems to work, and you can plug in new players and achieve similar results every year.
Suddenly, the Michigan State job opens. Sparty’s AD thinks that Young PSU Coach could be successful there because he’s already successful at PSU (for those standards), plus he’d have all of the tradition and resources that exist for Sparty basketball at his disposal.
He expresses interest. Maybe Sparty meets with him informally. Sparty goes another way.
Are you really going to fire Young PSU Coach?
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Oct 21, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
What if Young PSU Coach
then becomes an insufferage douchea and starts slowrolling his job becasue he feels he deserves to be on a higher plane than the lowly PSU men’s BB coach?
Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western
The quality of firing and hiring are two independant results.
You will always hire after you fire, but you can not conclude that the firing was the wrong thing to do based on the results of the hiring. If they hired the next JoePa the firing would still be right.
I believe the welcome got worn out in the mid December bowls with no signs of improvement over a few years. Throw in an embarassing colapse against Texas Tech in said December bowl…well.
"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD
Greatest Hits of Mason's collapses
Gave up 21 4th quarter points at home against Michigan to lose when we were undefeated and headed for great things. Collapsed at home against Wisconsin where we rushed for 300 yards and lost when Wisconsin recovered a punt in the endzone late in the 4th quarter. Gave up the biggest comeback in college bowl game history against TTech. Always made it known he wanted the Ohio State job. Stopped recruiting actively. Never reached out to MN high school coaches. Was short/cross with the Minnesota media. Came out and said he was happy just making a bowl game..which right now sounds like heroin to any Gopher fan….but at the time wasn’t good enough since we had done that so many times in the decade. It was just time to part ways. There was no future growth potential. The program had peaked under that regime.
We then interviewed all kinds of able-bodied coaches…Kiffin (opinions aside, he wanted the job and “settled” for Raiders head coach shortly therafter), Coker from Miami, Trestman, and several others….so this story could have ended MUCH better…we chose a slimy used car salesman who pissed off and seemed to alienate EVERY coach who ever coordinated under him. Incredible turnover….
I remember that Michigan game
I was stoked to see the Gophers make a statement they were a force that year on national TV at home (a Friday night game), with Barber and Maroney in the backfield. The Gophers rushed for well over 500 yards that game, had everything going spectacularly for three quarters, and still managed to lose. I felt numb that night when the collapse was complete. That was the beginning of the end for Mason, I think, though the end took a few years to come. The Gophers weren’t the same the whole rest of that season, either.
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Oct 22, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That's true. But in this case, I'd argue
that the firing was wrong, no matter what Brewster’s results were.
Minnesota football lives with certain disadvantages that were developed over decades of mediocrity (or worse). Mason was, by all reasonable observations, very successful. The program was in process of wiping those disadvantages away and developing an identity as a tough, hard-nosed program.
They had their collapses, but those things are bound to happen. You have to have the patience to build through them. Programs don’t just become great overnight. Impatience killed them because they thought the job was more attractive than it actually was. Letting Mason continue the build until retirement would have put the program in a better place than it was when he arrived. Had Mason completely collapsed (as Gopher fans are intimating was going to happen, though I’m not totally sold), the program could’ve had a fresh start and the new hire would’ve been given some lieniency. But they fired him after a mediocre 6-7 season, and it made them look like their expectations were outsized to the job prestige. That’ll kill ya.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Oct 21, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
These are all valid arguments
But you’re missing the fact that at the time of his firing Mason was down trending the program into something worse. It wasn’t just a lull, eventually trending back up. It was a clear erosion of commitment and hard work. Give our AD credit (oh my gosh, I can’t believe I’m saying that) for noticing it before it got worse. The fact that it still got worse wasn’t a result of his first decision (the firing of Mason) but of the second (the hiring of Brewster).
Gopher wins from 2006:
Kent State (MACrifice that finished 6-6)
Temple (a 1-11 team that had recently been kicked out of the Big East for being too pathetic)
North Dakota State (1AA team, by one point)
Indiana (finished 5-7)
Michigan State (finished 4-8)
Iowa (finished 6-7)
The 1-11 2007 team was not substantially inferior to the cupcake-filled 2006 version.
This is exactly correct Erik. That 1-11 team lost a ton of games (unless my memory is sprinkling sugar on shit) by a touchdown or less….so that 1-11 team was pretty darn close to Mason’s 2006 team. But Mason needed to move on. He had reached his full potential and was not going to succeed in any aspect of the game going forward. The issue I have is the analyses here point to MN fans not being happy if Mason was going to win 7 games every year….but that wasn’t our option…we were headed south fast….
There were two distinct Mason eras.
The first, when he was looking to build a resume for something greater, started with a truly abysmal program and trended ever-upward until he failed to win the Ohio State job in 2001. Competence-inertia (ie talented and well-coached players) carried us though the 2003 season, ending with a 10-3 record and a Music City Bowl victory. The first Mason left us for a new position (playing golf).
Once Mason was passed over for the tOSU job, we ceased to be a resume-builder and became a dependable paycheck. Recruiting became an afterthought and mailing-in became the norm. A steady downward spiral (obvious in competitiveness more than in overall record) resulted in the second Mason’s entirely-justified firing.
I concur
This was most certainly the case. Don’t be mislead by ‘early Mason’. He was a good coach and more than Minnesota should have asked for. But he didn’t last.
Mason saw Minnesota as a stepping stone
That was a bigger problem than anything. A Big Ten program that had seen major success before (albeit fairly ancient: 20 straight .500 or better records from 1900-1919, 1960 MNC, 5 undefeated seasons and one 1-loss season from 1933-1941) was being treated like a stepping stone.
Nevermind the fact that Mason’s winning and losing was largely a scheduling gimmick. He would schedule complete patsies, start 6-1ish and finish 7-5ish every year. Is that true? No. It that totally what it seemed like? Yes.
Mason started listening to media rumors that he was in the mix for the Ohio State job after Cooper, and whether it was true or not, totally whored himself out for it. It was a gamble on his part that didn’t pay off, and no matter what kind of improvement he had brought to Minnesota, he forever soured his reputation there, and deservedly so.
That, and Mason constantly viewed the Minnesota program incapable of winning on any sort of significant level until they had a stadium on campus. He complained about this constantly. If Paterno spent his entire career openly whining about an inherent flaw in the university, I’d think less of him.
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
He always - ALWAYS - has a smug look whenever they show Minnesota losing.
He was beaming when they cut to the studio after the South Dakota game.
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't like your claim about Bolden...
becoming the Big10’s best QB.
House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....
Lifetime Gopher Fan/Alumn
Trust us, we are as bad, if not worse, than Jeff says. Rumors are that Jeff Horton can get more from the players, keep it light, guys will be playing this one for Brew, fill in the “feel good story” you wish here _______________________________.
Bottom line, each of the last 4 or 5 games has had “special” meaning. First was avenge the loss against South Dakota. Then it was make the fans stop booing. Then it was beat rival Wisky. Then it was save Brewster’s job and beat seemingly the last remaining chance at a win team in Purdue.
The results? Loss. Loss. Loss. Loss. Loss. Loss. Brewster shit-canned.
This team is so awful it is hard to watch. Our best running back has a bum wheel and fails to produce. Our quarterback is the Benjamin Button of college football. All-World his Freshman year, and 3 coordinators later, he’s gotten significantly worse every single year to where he now regularly misses wide open receivers by drilling the ball into the dirt, or over-throwing guys by 5 yards. He converts the occasional tough pass which just makes everybody scratch their nuts trying to figure out why he’s so bad on all his other throws if he has the skill to make such a nice pass. Most of his statistics are from the game being out of reach, or in the 2nd half. Our defense is laughable. I’m not sure if we have defensive linemen. Our DB’s lead the team in tackles…and not linebackers, but safeties (I think…I did not check my facts on this one). I don’t know that we have any sacks this year. If we do,it’s because the QB pulled a Jay Cutler and held the ball for 10 seconds.
I’m angry. Angry and tired that this team has betrayed me yet another season…..so with that, this game has no potential for another 1999. PSU comes in and wins by at least a touchdown, and it’s only that close if PSU commits turnovers.
by jimipig on Oct 21, 2010 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agree
Tim Brewster AND Brad Childress? Ouch.
"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."
One coach down, one to go
I cannot WAIT for Brad Childress to get fired. He’s been such a TERRIBLE coach since day one, I can’t stand him.
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Oct 22, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
HUSH! I am not allowing that kind of talk on BSD this week!
We WILL beat the Gophers! We WILL beat the Gophers! If I say it enough, it will come true…..repeat.
Can you tell I’ve been repeating this mantra over and over and over this week?
Joe Paterno Apologist
oh, I've noticed the mantra, and I don't think we'll lose
but anyone that thinks a big ten conference game is “automatic” right now, doesn’t know how tough our conference is from top to bottom every year.
I agree that no team is an automatic win.
I’m just not sure I can handle the stress or the open thread if we’re losing in the 3rd quarter.
Joe Paterno Apologist
yeah, but they're gophers
they live below ground. They’ve broken through the bottom of the basement of the Big Ten and are still digging and digging.
Plus, I will hunt you down if we lose to them…just because…
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 21, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel bad for them
as bad as it got here the last couple of weeks it was never that sad and depressing
We have Fugi for unrealistic optimism and Mike for sanity and reason
Whatever
LOL!!!!!
This has got to be the most self-loathing Q&A I’ve ever read!
"Life is no way to treat an animal"
by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 21, 2010 11:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
This thread is sublime.
I want to hug these guys and buy them booze.
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hayden Fox would love to interview.
Joe
@QBsneak12
by QBsneak12 on Oct 21, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Minnesota has a much better chance winning the football game
Than they do winning the “we’re dejected by how bad our team is this year” game.
Look Gophers, at least you’re bad and something has been done about it. We’re starting turnstyles and bannanna peels on the o-line and after two weeks to go back and figure out what can be done to fix it, we’re going to march back on onto the field with the exact same turnstyles and bannanna peels. Oh, but this time it will be different! We had passionate practices! Yes, and in scrimmage, we scored TD’s! All is well again, it says so on Twitter!
Our version of tackling is “everyone just give him a hug until the safety gets here”. Our tackling looks like a big group hug. The LB’s play like they’re 5’5" and 160 lbs out there, a stiff breeze knocks them over. My grandmother could block Collasanti.
So you think things are bad on your end? Just wait until you sack Bolden by rushing three defenders. Wait until your D-line suddenly has the best game of the season. Wait until it’s 3rd and 4 and we run the RB iso play for 1 yard. Then tell us how bad your team is!
/some of this post was exagerated for effect…
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
Which "some" was exagerated?
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.
by DerryPharmer on Oct 21, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
By playing us their temporary coach will likely become their head coach
And over the next years of losing they will wonder how he did so well against PSU in 2010, lol.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
Man, I am driving 9 and an half hours to go to this game
And all of this sandbagging by the DG has me worried. New coach, fire everybody up – I feel legitimate worried, and really would not like to spend 19 hours on the road this weekend just to see an L at Minnesota. I hope I feel happier Saturday night!
Ummmm…. don’t stress too much about it. Promise.
by Erik T on Oct 21, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
on a different note
what do you gopher fans think of the new digs? glad its an outdoors stadium?
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
It's spectacular
Obviously it doesn’t compare to what you guys have for size or atmosphere, but TCF Bank stadium is light years better than the Metrodome. The upgrade is like going from Tim Brewster to whomever we hire next as coach.
I shed a tear...
For a die hard fan suffering through years of crappy Metrodome (living in Chicago as a kid, my dad and I only went to a couple games, but I remember it being depressing)…then 4 years of Wacker ball in the dome in front of 10,000 fans as a student….I literally shed a tear at the Air Force game, sold out, opening night, was probably 80 degrees at kickoff….tears….it was beautiful. It was “real” football again. It is a nice stadium, great view on campus of downtown out the open end of the horseshoe…worth a trip to see.
How bad this team is hurts…..that stadium deserves better!!!!
I just wish it had a better name.
Seriously, I’d take Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railway Stadium over the current name.
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
We've truncated it to
Berkshire Hathaway Stadium. (Take that Nebraska – suck it!)
Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western
Their intro can feature a BNSF Dash 9 running over Glen Mason.
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 21, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
my goal is to see a game in every big10 stadium
look forward to seeing the new place, ive only heard good things…minus the name like rambler stated
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
I still haven't made it to Minny
and was debating going this year, but just don’t have the time or $ :-\
Also still haven’t hit Indiana, which was also planned for this year, until FedEx field happened.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 21, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
so far i can only claim the shoe and obviously beaver stadium
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
After FedEx this year, Can I claim
to have seen Indiana at home?
Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western
Hell yeah!
Claims are like buttholes: everybody can have one. Or more than one. But then they wouldn’t be like buttholes. Unless someone tears you a new one. So, yeah. Claims = Buttholes.
The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan
Yeah, I'd guess Juggernitt's got most of us beat
On away game stadiums. ….fanpost coming up?
The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan
It will prove to be a good decision!
Mark my words, PSU is a better team than the gophers.
"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD
He fails to see that even if you’re really, really committed to the run, and you try really, really hard to do it, that this team can’t and won’t run the ball consistently well.
Wait, who are we talking about again?
pot meet kettle
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
Sandbagging...
God I wish….1-6, lucky to win that one game against MTSU without starting QB who accounted for 90% of team’s offense last season, losing to South Dakota….nothing I say can possibly be considered sandbagging….NOTHING….
Nebraska 84, Minnesota 13.
Holy * bleep *! Never knew that. Who in Minnesota kicked Tom Osbournes dog back in ’83?
Incidentally, you’d think a team like that could convert a 2 pointer when it counted in a national championship game—but I guess not.
@jschnauzer
Bloggin' at http://joepasdoghouse.com
They passed on that play.
Maybe because Rozier was injured? Either way, I’ve never liked that call.
"Let's get your chili hot!"
Beat Minnesota
by ReadingRambler on Oct 22, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ouch
I’ve got no love or hatred for Minnesota. I feel bad for them because I know their pain. Yet as a soon-to-be divisional opponent, I also want to throw a little “we told you so” at ’em (I know there were some Husker fans over at Daily Gopher warning them of their impending doom).
Who could look at the 2004-2007 Husker teams, in particular that ’07 squad that finally got he and Callahan fired, and say “That system is incredible! I want Kevin Cosgrove as MY Defensive Coordinator!”
Maybe he’s a decent position coach, but he can NOT cut it as a DC. Ruined the Blackshirts, and now leading Gophers to the edge of the cliff.
PSU, you should be ok (at least on the offensive side of the ball) this week.

by 




























