Penn State Defense Grades Against Minnesota
Penn State got back to winning last Saturday, defeating Minnesota 33-21. The score actually surprised me in a couple of ways. I never thought our offense would be able to put up more than 10 points (i'm a believer now, even though it was against a horrid football team) and I didn't think our defense would still be playing this uncharacteristically this late in the season.
All season, even on Saturday, the defense has not be able to consistently tackle anyone. And while the defense got more pressure than usual against Minnesota, that is still an area of concern.
Defensive Line
Jordan Hill earned his first career start but the d-line still left plenty to be desired. Ollie Ogbu, despite making one good play behind the line of scrimmage, was a non-factor. Devon Still was the best of the bunch, including sacking Adam Weber in the end zone for a safety.
Pete Massaro started at the other end position and had some great pressure on the QB but wasn't able to finish the job. He finished the day with 4 tackles (one for a loss).
Sean Stanley, who missed the past few games due to an off the field situation, also saw some action.
The d-line has been hit pretty hard by injuries, but some of the younger players need to step up. tackling is still a problem, but we did see some increased pressure on the QB this week.
Final Grade: C+
Linebackers
Penn State has decided to rent out the "Linebacker U" moniker this season to just about any other team not named Penn State. The group of linebackers are not playing the way we have come to expect our linebackers to play. I'm not sure if it is just this group of guys, or if we were spoiled by having such amazing linebackers (Dan Connor, Sean Lee, Paul Posluszny) with great instincts that we just have come to expect all of our LBs to read and react to plays as quick as that trio did.
Michael Mauti led the group against Minnesota with 8 tackles (3rd on the team). Nathan Stupar, appeared to be playing a Tim Shaw-esq stand up DE/LB on the first series finished with 6 tackles as well. Chris Colasanti, still starting in the middle also had 6 tackles.
I'm not sure what is eating Bani Gbadyu. This is not the same player we saw four years ago. He appears to be a step slow and when in the game disappears for long stretches at a time. He finished Saturday with only 3 assisted tackles.
Gerald Hodges made his return after missing the past 4 games (5 if you count Alabama since he was hurt on the opening kickoff). He finished with 2 tackles. The stats don't matter for Hodges, it was just great to have him back on the field. His athleticism will come in handy against Denard Robinson and company.
True freshman Khairi Fortt did not play due to a stinger. The team hopes to have him back for Michigan.
We need this group to play better if there is any chance we are going to upset Michigan.n The real key
Final Grade: C
Secondary
Let's start with the good. D'Anton Lynn had an excellent game finishing with 10 tackles and a very important INT, which he returned 58 yards. The pick came at a crucial point in the game. We saw exactly why Lynn is still at CB and not moved to safety.
Stephon Morris did not have a great day. Morris was beat on two TDs (the one TD was throw in a perfect spot and it wouldn't have mattered if Deion Sanders was covering Da'Jon McKnight) and flagged for a pass interference call. He didn't tackle well, but neither did a lot of his teammates. The secondary made McKnight look like DeSean Jackson. Morris is a competitor and our 2nd best option at CB, especially with Derrick Thomas still in the dog house (or kennel at this point). Tom Bradley sumed it up:
"Stephon, he's got to play a lot better. He knows it."
Andrew Dailey suffered another stinger, forcing the coaches to play Astorino at strong safety and redshirt freshman Malcolm Willis at free safety. Willis finished the day with nine tackles (2nd on the team) and one pass break up. Willis might earn the start against
Adam Weber threw for 299 and 3 scores. Those numbers are slightly deceiving since Minnesota was playing from behind most of the game.
A BSD shout out goes to or latest version of Drew Astorino, Jacob Fagnano. Fagnano has seen increased playing time due to the injuries and finished with 2 tackles on the day. JoePa, well fee feels differently:
"I worry about the secondary."
Final Grade: C
Special Teams
Anthony Fera is slowly learning how to put his big leg to use in the punt game. Fera punted six times for an average of 45.2 yards a kick and placed four of his six kicks inside the 20. Missing this week was a "Fera Ball," a below average 11 to 26 yard punt. Penn State has always been about field position and Fera, hopefully,will continue being an asset and not a liability. Stephon Morris, wanting to make his presence felt in the kicking game as well and wiffed on a tackle that set up a big return for the Gophers.
Colin Wanger was one for two on the day drilling a 49 yard field goal (tied for his career long) and missing a 37 yarder. Wagner has been a huge surprise this season. Last year he was inconsistent and Penn State had to worry if he would be able to make a kick over 37 yards. Wagner could potentially be in the running for some post season accolades if he keeps it up.
Nothing really to report in the return game. Nothing bad or good happened.
Final Grade: B
Defensive Coaching
The game plan is in place every week. It's the same plan Penn State has used for a long, long time. The problem this season has been the fundamental execution, mainly the tackling. If you try and arm tackle a RB, he is going to take your arm with him.
Penn State is still trying to figure out the right combination on the defensive line. Jordan Hill made his first career start, presumably in place of the injured Jack Crawford. Devon Still has emerged as the best defensive tackle on the team ahead of Ollie Ogbu who, like Bani Gbadyu, disappears for long stretches during the game.
Penn State is going to have to fix the fundamental flaws, and they have 5 days to do it. Denard Robinson, if he can stay in one piece on Saturday, will have no problem carving up the Penn State defense.
Final Grade: C
With Minnesota in the rear-view, Penn State can now turn it's attention to Michigan. The atmosphere should again garner the "greatest student section" tag, if they students make it in before halftime. I have faith that the students and fans will be in their seats and ready to go (that's what 12 hours of tailgating will do for you).
Michigan has an outstanding offense, but if you can take Denard Robinson out of the game, you can win it because Tate Forcier, despite all his confidence, is not Denard Robinson. The only problem with their offense is that all of the athletes they have are on it, leaving Greg Robinson's defense with a mixed bag of 3-3-5 fun.
Oh yea, and the defense is coached by Greg Robinson...so that's never a good thing for Michigan.
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That's up to McGloin
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Oct 25, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
is he starting?
"Life is no way to treat an animal"
by Mr. Rosewater on Oct 25, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If he goes 0-4 against Iowa, MSU, OSU, and Nebraska last year, say goodbye.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
next year
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Hill looked good to me early on,
then in the second half, not so much. Maybe Minny’s line made an adjustment.
Willis was a nice surprise.
"A team that defeats a far inferior team has accomplished nothing." - R. Engle
Go State. Beat Michigan. Accomplish nothing.
by Illegal Formation on Oct 25, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
Why didn't Bradley have Lynn to cover McKnight?
Don’t get me wrong..you gotta give McKnight some credit…he’s tall, quick and probably one of the best WR’s in the conference and he won’t get the accolades because his team his terrible.
However, Lynn is our best corner and I don’t see him making it as easy for McKnight. It seems that Bradley is willing to settle for defensive mis-matches in this area. i.e. Justin King getting owned by James Hardy at the IU game in 2007.
Willis played well. Is he a walk-on?
Otherwise, I thought the DL did a really nice job of stuffing the run in the first half. But they gave up more yards later…were they gassed?
House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....
Lynn did cover him...
and gave up a TD. McKnight just made plays…it didn’t matter who covered him.
Joe
@QBsneak12
I didn't notice that.
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by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 25, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
This.
McKnight is a very good receiver on a horrible team. I think he’s better than Decker.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
the corners play assignment even when they are man to man
as they were quite a few times on Saturday. The PSU D never sticks a corner on an individual, unless he is matched up on his side. Why, I don’t know but that is the way it is. Morris’ coverage wasn’t bad. Both TD’s were excellent throws and the one was an excellent push off.
gotcha...
is that part of the cover 2 or 3 scheme then?
I actually thought that Morris could have made a play on the long touchdown pass. Give Weber credit, it was a good throw.
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by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 25, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it has to do with anything except being PSU's preference
They ran the secondary assignments the same way under Sandusky. I remember wondering about this in the 90’s when Macklin could cover anyone and we never used him to cover one guy and other teams would scheme their best reciever to the opposite side.
And they have multiple good receivers.
That seemed to be the only thing the Minnesota blogger liked about the team.
"A team that defeats a far inferior team has accomplished nothing." - R. Engle
Go State. Beat Michigan. Accomplish nothing.
by Illegal Formation on Oct 25, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the Paterno/Bradley philosophy of keeping it simple
You play your position and you play it well. A big part of it has to be practice limitations, there’s so limited practice time week to week that you open your self up for a lot of blown assignments if you try to be too cute with things. Obviously with the bye week they may have been able to do a little more but that’s not how Joe does things.
by Frank O'Brien on Oct 25, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
but other colleges have limitations too
and they manage to blitz and disguise their coverages so i dont think its practice limitations. i do agree its joepa/bradley philosophy
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
Did Anyone Else See This?
Early in Q1, Minnesota is in the shadow of their goalpost, trying to get out.
On one play, after the snap, Still puts a ‘Spin Move’ on the Minnesota Lineman. But………
Instead of moving into the lineman, who was backing up in pass-protect mode, Still stood straight up, and then pirouetted 360 degrees, standing in the same spot, ending up facing the astonished lineman, who was expecting a pass rush.
I have never seen such a bizarre move, which would have been hilarious if it really happened. Did anyone else see this?
For the Glory, Beat Michigan
Joe from Boalsburg
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Oct 25, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe,
I noticed a Still spin move where he ended up so off-balance he just sort of fell over.
"A team that defeats a far inferior team has accomplished nothing." - R. Engle
Go State. Beat Michigan. Accomplish nothing.
by Illegal Formation on Oct 25, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Wagner's improvement can be summed up in one stat from last year
last year over 40 yds 1 for 5
this year over 40 yds 6 for 7
Other than that, he was 3 for 5 30-39 yds and is the same this year
He had one miss from 28 last year in the first game against Akron and made the rest under 30.
Actually, take away his 1 for 3 against Akron last year and he finished 14 for 19 with 4 misses over 40 yds. He is currently 14 for 17. His improvement is really not a suprise to me, since he said he worked on leg strength all off-season.
he looked good...even on the miss...
the ball took a funny trajectory….looked like it was going to totally miss at first..then curved in a bit in and clanked the upright.
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by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 25, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Wagner is keeping Penn State in games.
He should get the nod for All Big Ten this year.
You can't be serious, man! You cannot be serious! His foot was on the line! It was ON THE LINE! He was clearly out! How could you possibly call him in!?
"I'm going to award a point against you, Mr. OBrienSchofieldismyHero."
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 25, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
you know its a rough year
when youre kicker is your offensive MVP…guh
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
hahaha touche
since we have a former qb who remains unnamed in these parts, i suggest we start referring to those years as the years that shall not be named. i need one of those flash things like tommy lee jones had in MIB
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
I remember
the greatness that was Marcus Robinson…and some other junk that happened before then. Can’t remember it exactly.
We had our stretch of mediocrity from 2000 to 2003. Losing to a terrible Cooper team in his final year? Inexcusable. Tossing away every game against the Wolverines? Also inexcusable. Giving up what I believe was a double digit lead against the ****ing Hawkeyes in 2002? Also inexcusable.
2004 was unreal, we were 9-0. Then we pulled a 99 Penn State and lost our final 3 games…
You can't be serious, man! You cannot be serious! His foot was on the line! It was ON THE LINE! He was clearly out! How could you possibly call him in!?
"I'm going to award a point against you, Mr. OBrienSchofieldismyHero."
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 25, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Or the year
that the Nittany Lions were the greatest 4 win team in college football history.
You can't be serious, man! You cannot be serious! His foot was on the line! It was ON THE LINE! He was clearly out! How could you possibly call him in!?
"I'm going to award a point against you, Mr. OBrienSchofieldismyHero."
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 25, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The defensive line deserves more than a C.
Yes, they didn’t get much pressure, but they did keep Minnesota’s run game.
Actually, now that I think about it, the defensive tackles shouldn’t be graded along with the ends. I think the tackles are outperforming everyone week in and out. For one, they would have shut down Illinois if they had gotten some help.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2010 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
I think this is why teams are having success running off tackle and outside.
The tackles are forcing runners out. Then the ends lose contain, then the LBs take a bad angle, then Danton Lynn has to be all like, “You punks…I got this.”
"A team that defeats a far inferior team has accomplished nothing." - R. Engle
Go State. Beat Michigan. Accomplish nothing.
by Illegal Formation on Oct 25, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I was amazed how fast he caught up to that guy
I didn’t think Lynn had that kind of speed. He’s an NFL prospect for sure.
Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.
Lynn =
one of my favorite players. Most athletic, smartest corner we’ve had in some time.
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by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 25, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Massaro is looking like he has potential..
but so many times I saw him beat Minny’s Lineman, only to get pushed into the turf from taking a really wide angle and trying to cut in.
So basically, I think when he gets stronger, he should be able to dictate his own angle of pursuit by pancaking the lineman.
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by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 25, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
He plays with fire and grit...I like that.
Some of the other DL look to have little motor…they could use some McGloin moxie
Hire Mike Pettine Jr!!!!!!!!
by SweepTheLeg on Oct 25, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
D played well enough..
to get the W. Seemed they played well, not great, except for the drive to open the second half when Minny just did whatever they wanted to do.
Offense will have to win the game against Michigan. It will be a Nintendo 12 style game. No way PSU punts 6 times and wins that game.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 25, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
I would argue the fundamental problem isn’t tackling but d-line pressure. This defense is pointless without pressure and we’re just not seeing it. At some point I think TB has to throw something unexpected in there instead of waiting two and a half quarters for a dlineman to make a play.
In fact my biggest worry about this Michigan game isn’t being able to get in the way of Denard, it’s going to be getting off blocks against their oline, which is really good at blocking.
agree a somewhat
but I think LB’s filling proper gaps is the key to the defense, as long as the DE’s contain. Problem is, DE’s have done a poor job of contain and the LB’s have missed the gaps all year. I think we are okay as long as the offense and special teams can put up a 50 spot.
was it massaro
that i saw completely bite on a fake handoff and bootleg? i just remember seeing a defensive end come crashing down and the QB could have walked out into the flat
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
I think it was Hill.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yea youre right..47
i just remember thinking “come on man, you have to be more disciplined than that” it wasnt even that good of a fake
The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.
I missed being around here for the game this weekend.
I ended up putting on a large-scale tailgate at the Hunt, a Preakness-style horserace/social event in Central Jersey. Very Penn State-esque tailgating atmosphere.
Watched the game on replay after already knowing the result was probably good for my soul this week. For my part, I think the defense was very average. Hard to blame Morris for that first TD pass, as you said. Otherwise, he really had his worst game as a Nittany Lion. I imagine that will be a rare occurance.
I’m consistently disappointed with the play of our defensive line. When I look at the names Massaro, Ogbu, Still and (insert backup due to injury here), I have certain expectations that just aren’t being met. We were better at getting to the QB this week, but still not particularly good. Our run defense was pretty pathetic. There was no reason to give that kid 100 yards, but it happened again.
Ideally, Hodges will be back to game speed and Fortt will be back from injury. I’d like to see a more consistent linebacker rotation to keep this guys in the flow of the game. Either way, unless the d-line takes some pressure off of them, the linebackers are going to have a difficult time.
"I donโt spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
lack of depth is hurting the run defense...
it was really good in the first half. And then they just let Minny do whatever in the second half. I think they’re gassed and just don’t have the bodies to maintain a fresh rotation.
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by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 25, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm ready for the big defensive adjustment this week
Bradley installs the 3-5-3 defense with Mauti, Stupar, Hodges, Fortt and Colasanti all on the field.
don't know about that..
but we need our fastest LB’s on the field for sure.
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by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 25, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The "Hunt"?
MrsPharmer has relatives that attend this function….are you “uppity”?
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.
by DerryPharmer on Oct 25, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Reply Fail to Adam Collyer.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.
by DerryPharmer on Oct 25, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Believe me, a group of 26 and 27 year olds tailgating at the event wouldn't really fit
that description.
There were, however, a remarkable amount of ridiculous preppy blazers surrounding us. Absolutely.
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by Adam Collyer on Oct 25, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome to my Monday.
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by Adam Collyer on Oct 25, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
C's all around for the defense, grading on a flatline instead of a curve
Couple of things I took away from the game. Weber hasn’t thrown for 10,000 yds by accident and Minny’s WR have some talent so I wouldn’t grade the DBs too harshly on this. Morris’ lack of height seemed to be exposed for the first time but the biggest difference between Weber this time vs. last year’s game was the lack of pressure from the DL.
Stupar appears to have too much Bani in him and takes himself out of the play too many times. As for Bani, thanks for your years of hard work but I’m afraid this is it for you. Keep hustling on special teams and get a few reps at LB but the younger guys are better and need to play more.
Opening line:
Michigan favored by 1.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
I honestly don't have a clue what will happen this week
I imagine I will get ridiculously optimistic as the week progresses, eventually predicting a double digit victory. Thats probably why I don’t bet.
For the time being I remain cautiously optimistic that we will be able to run against their highschool defense and control the clock, which, as far as I’m concerned, is the only way we beat these guys (that or injuries to robinson and forcier- but I don’t like to win that way)
Its the not knowing that kills me. This week is really going to play with my emotions.
by psuphysicist on Oct 25, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
There should be only one emotion this week
HATE!
Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.
agreed on the "not knowing that kills me"
I snuck in a PSU-9.5 bet last week, but I didn’t feel good about it.
This week I’ll prolly play the total.
This would be one week where I would take the ball to start the game if that’s an option.
I was thinking the same thing about taking the ball.
Chances are you would at least win the field position game, if that is even a factor this week.
my thought was the crowd
nothing quiets 100K + like a 10+ play scoring drive to open the game.
take the ball, hopefully score (or at least pin them deep) and let the crowd go nuts the first time they have the ball
I've never allowed myself to bet on PSU
The emotional stake is too heavy and a loss would only add injury to the insult.
And yeah, definitely take the ball. McGloin’s inner-Favre scares the hell out of me. Turnovers and lack of scoring opportunities in this game will be hard to overcome.
by Frank O'Brien on Oct 25, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't mind betting on my team.
If we win and they don’t cover, I’m still happy they at leats won.
The dark side is when you wager against your team. I’ve done it twice in my life, and I’m 2 for 2.
The first time was 1999 when we played Minnesota at home and this guy approached me the Thursday before the game. He was in town from New York early for the game and had a big briefcase full of cash…..
NOT!!!! Joking obviously.
Fayak
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"I remain cautiously optimistic that we will be able to run against their highschool defense"
Can we run against ANY defense this year? It’s so frustrating.
"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"
Wow
Suprising right? Is it just me or is this line begging people to take Michigan, which usually means good news for us.
In other news, Iowa opens as a 6.5 favorite against MSU.
This shouldn’t surprise anyone; Vegas lines have had nothing but hatred for MSU this year.
A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
They are waiting for the Spaty shoe to drop
Can’t say I blame them (oddmakers I mean)
Saturday’s cover by Sparty was truly a gambler heart attack special.
He's still kicking
I think you’re in the clear.
Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.
6.5 is a lot
I could see Sparty winning by anywhere fro 3-7, and I could see Iowa winning anywhere from 3-10. I would not get anywhere near this one.

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