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Big Ten Preview: I can tell that we are gonna be friends

In the virtual grotto where your humble BSD bloggers plan world domination, there was a lively debate this week about whether we should spend front-page time talking about Penn State's "rivalry" with Michigan or lack thereof. The discussion more or less settled down to a consensus view that any time Michigan and Penn State play it's a big game, but let's not get bogged down labeling it.

In a certain sense, that's true of most of this Saturday's Big Ten games. None of them deserve the label "rivalry" by any objective measure, but all of them, save Bucky/Goldy, are big games, at least for the teams involved. Three of the games -- NW/IND, MSU/Iowa, Mich/PSU -- are perhaps the fulcrum upon which the balance of the season depends. If everything goes as planned, the Illinois/Purdue game won't really make much of a difference, but maybe everything won't go so swimmingly for the Illini. (Actually, I think it will.)

I'm particularly fond of this Saturday's slate of games because it exemplifies what I love about Big Ten football: nearly every game is interesting. This week's Penn State game is more about bowl eligibility than the conference championship, but it's still a big game for the teams and fans involved. The MSU/Iowa game may be the defining game of this year's Big Ten season, and someone has to win Indiana/Northwestern, even if we'd rather assume that neither team can. In other words, every game matters.

Enough of the love fest. Check out http://joepasdoghouse.com/ for some HATE. Onto the games and the gambling:

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Northwestern Wildcats at Indiana Hoosiers (12:00, Big Ten Network); 65 and sunny; NW -3; o/u 58.5

A key game for both teams, as they each are playing a beatable opponent and searching for enough wins to become bowl eligible. Northwestern likely played their best game of the year last week despite losing to Michigan State. Indiana, meanwhile, hasn't looked particularly good in either of their last two outings - an embarrassment at Illinois last week and just sneaking by Arkansas State the week before.  I think Ben Chappell rebounds well from his three-pick game last week and outscores Dan Persa and the Wildcats.

Prediction: Indiana 33 - Northwestern 31

Purdue Boilermakers at Illinois Fighting Illini (12:00, ESPN2); 63 and slight chance of rain; Ill -17; o/u 41.5

This game had promised to feature arguably the two best (redshirt) freshman quarterbacks in the league, but Purdue's Robert Henry, who started the year as third on the depth chart and is 2-1 as a starter, might not play due to a cut on his hand suffered in the third quarter in last week's beatdown at Ohio State. The Illini's Nathan Scheelhaase is a decent dual-threat option at quarterback in his own right, but the strength of the Illinois team is their defense. Illinois should win, but ought not overlook Purdue, which has been surprisingly frisky all year. Purdue's just too banged up and Illinois is too hot.

Prediction: Illinois 31 - Purdue 10

Michigan St. Spartans at Iowa Hawkeyes (3:30, ABC/ESPN); 64 and slight chance of rain; Iowa -6.5; 50.5

The marquee Big Ten matchup of the week features two very similar teams. Both execute well, both have battle-tested veterans under center, both have potential first-rounders starring on defense, and both have a well-coached cohesion that allows them to come from behind and stay in every game. In the back of my mind, I keep trying to anticipate the inevitable Sparty FAIL, but something tells me it might not happen this year. This is the only game left on Michigan State's regular season schedule in which they will not be favored. The outcome depends on whether or not Michigan State can consistently move the ball on offense, particularly on the ground. I think they'll have modest success, and their defense will be up to the challenge, but this is the Saturday when they learn that Cinderella's slipper doesn't quite fit.  Even still, 6.5 points is too many.

Prediction: Iowa 22 - Michigan State 21  

Ohio St. Buckeyes at Minnesota Golden Gophers (8:00, ABC); 53 and clear skies; OSU -25.5

This game contradicts everything I assumed about night games on ABC, even if it is only regional coverage. Will anyone besides sadists, Ohio residents, and gamblers even care?

Prediction: Ohio State 45 - Minnesota 13

Michigan Wolverines at Penn St. Nittany Lions (8:00, ESPN)

50 and slight chance of rain; wind 10 mph; Mich -2.5; o/u 50

BYE: Wisconsin Badgers

Last Week: 3-2 Against the Spread ; 5-0 Picking Winners ; Overall: 8-12 ATS; 15-5 W/L

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Illinois is giving 17?

Wow.

"A team that defeats a far inferior team has accomplished nothing." - R. Engle
Go State. Beat Michigan. Accomplish nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Oct 28, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Until you realize

that Purdue cannot pass the ball and Illinois is pretty much stopping anything on the ground. Then the spread doesn’t seem so strange.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Oct 28, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m fully aware of Illinois. I’m not saying I’d be surprised to see Illinois win by 17 or more, just that the spread is so large, if that makes sense.

"A team that defeats a far inferior team has accomplished nothing." - R. Engle
Go State. Beat Michigan. Accomplish nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Oct 28, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I just look at what tOSU did to a one-dimensional Purdue

and think, hey, Illinois isn’t as good as tOSU but if they’re at least half as good then the spread seems realistic.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Oct 28, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The stats seem to say Illinois's defense is a little more than 3/4 as good as Ohio State's defense.

Seriously.

Illinois’s offense is 1/4 as good as Ohio State, add them together and Ohio State and Illinois are equal. Wow!

I love it when I can’t decide if I’m being serious, half serious, or not serious at all.

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously though, Illinois should crush Purdue.

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should

but with Ron Zook, NOTHING is a given. Nothing.

Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Illinois has a top 15 defense

Purdue shouldn’t break 10 pts and I would hope Illinois can score 24+ on them. I think the spread is very accurate.

by emccomb1 on Oct 29, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

the purdue coach joked about opening up tryouts for qb this week

seriously. their pre-season fourth string qb played the whole fourth quarter at osu b/c everyone else was either hurt or academically ineligible.

This is a nod to Illinois and to Purdue’s injury status.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Oct 28, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Vegas, like, insulting everyone from Michigan now?

I respect that.

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

whuck!

"A team that defeats a far inferior team has accomplished nothing." - R. Engle
Go State. Beat Michigan. Accomplish nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Oct 28, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

I’m… speechless… to hear that….

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Oct 28, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got confused when you said Bucky/Goldy

Since I was sure Wisconsin and Minny already played. But then I realized you meant OSU….you gotta clean that up

by whiteoutonly on Oct 28, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I was confused by that too

Bucky Badger
Brutus the Buckeye

Know your Big Ten mascots/nicknames :-)

Let's Go State!

by Gopher Broke on Oct 28, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appreciate the link!

Fist jab to the fine folks in the grotto.

@jschnauzer
Bloggin' at http://joepasdoghouse.com

by Cairo on Oct 28, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

The Vegas line for the PSU game is ridiculous

-2.5 with an o/u of 50? I understand the spread, but the tandem of that spread and the o/u is ridiculous. This is like saying a 27-24 Michigan win is roughly what’s expected. If PSU holds Michigan to 27, PSU wins comfortably, unless McGloin shows significantly more bad Favre than good Favre.

Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on

by ckmneon on Oct 28, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

one of my professors is letting us play 10 points on the game

I am seriously considering taking Mich +3. I don’t know what to do. I have never gambled for a grade before. I already bombed the first test in the class so I could really use the points. On the other hand, If lose the 11 points(he gave himself a 1 point edge) that puts me in a position where I may need to drop the class or at least take a serious hit to my GPA. of course I don’t have to play. Advice?

by scotty2hotty89 on Oct 28, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go ahead. Take Michigan +3. Go ahead and take it. Traitor.

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take the over

Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on

by ckmneon on Oct 28, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This game contradicts everything I assumed about night games on ABC, even if it is only regional coverage. Will anyone besides sadists, Ohio residents, and gamblers even care?

Luckily I live on the West Coast and I won’t have to watch that garbage.

Captain Oveur: "Ever seen a grown man naked?"

by KSJ49 on Oct 28, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Just Northwestern

is an Iowa label. Why do you call them that since they haven’t beaten Penn State since 2004?

Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Um, because they're just Northwestern.

Duh.

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't dignify that explanation

Knowing your Iowa-love…

Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do I really have to explain why Northwestern is just Northwestern?

Is this all because Wisconsin lost to just Northwestern last year?

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iowa lost in a far more embarrassing fashion

and as a result, was unable to clinch a share of the title.

Losing by two in a venue we’ve never been successful at in no way fazes me. I expect NU to win against Wisconsin at home. And I expect them to lose against Wisconsin in Madison.

Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

By whose standard? A Wisconsin fan's standard?

Losing when your starting quarterback is injured in the first half and replaced by a deer-in-the-headlights freshman is more embarrassing than losing with most of your important players healthy?

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever.

Rule of thumb: When it comes to Wisconsin, any football game at Northwestern, no matter how bad it might be beforehand, should be considered in advance as a crazy as heck loss.

And with games like this (Wisconsin 48, Northwestern 51), the rules very often tend to get thrown out the window and the game turns into a Big Twelve-esque shootout. Forget Minnesota; Northwestern is or should be our rival…

Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 29, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

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