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I think it's safe to say that before the season just about everyone in Nittany Nation would have called this game a win for Penn State. Now? Not so much. Let's see how your BSD staff sees it play out.

QBSneak12 Says...

The murky QB situation has really thrown my prediction for a loop. Robert Bolden passed his concussion test Wednesday, but it is still unclear if he will be available to play. I feel he gives Penn State the best opportunity to beat Michigan.  If he is unavailable and Penn State has to turn to option B (Matthew McGloin) or C (Kevin Newsome) (or B/C if you think Joe Paterno will use two QBs - which I think he will) then Penn State will need to be flawless offensively.  McGloin will have to tame his Brett Favre impersonation and Newsome will have to channel 2002 Michael Robinson (Nebraska game).  Can they do it? We'll find out on Saturday.  Luckily for both QBs, Penn State does have weapons for them to get the ball to.  Derek Moye and Devon Smith need to have big games.  The big issue is the offensive line (Michigan's DT Martin is a player and could limit Penn State's love for running the ball right up the middle).  Michigan's defense has been lit up by both UMass and Indiana, both lesser teams than Penn State.  Penn State should have no problem moving the ball and scoring points but...

The defense is the problem.  Denard Robinson has already proved he can score points in bunches.  Luckily for the defense, Robinson has a knack for not sliding and taking unnecessary hits that knock him out of or limit him in games.  His backup, the dancing queen himself, Tate Forcier, is the likely filler for velcro.  I like our defenses chances if it is #5 behind center.  Most of the athletes on Michigan's team are on the offensive side of the ball, so Robinson does have some weapons at his disposal.  Tackling will be key against Michigan, especially against Robinson.  Take a wrong angle or try to arm tackle and he will make you pay.  Penn State needs to limit the big plays and try to keep Robinson and company in front of them.  Do that, and it's anyone's ball game on Saturday night.

I hope the Penn State crowd is ready to become great again after taking this entire year off.

Prediction: Penn State 38, Michigan 42

Star-divide

Fugimaster24 Says...

As Stefen Wisniewski has pointed out, Penn State's best defense against Michigan is going to have to be its offense. As Illinois and Minnesota have shown us, you can move the ball on the Nittany Lions, and there's no reason to expect the Wolverines won't at this point. The good news is Michigan's pass defense is terrible and it's rush defense is average enough that ball possession could be a real weapon for Penn State on Saturday. If the defense gets even a couple of stops in this game, I really like Penn State's chances. Michigan will challenge, but barring a complete defensive meltdown, it's going to be hard for Denard Robinson to even touch the ball enough to keep pace with Penn State.

Remember, the Lions hung 33 on Minnesota, a defense statistically stronger than Michigan's, with a backup quarterback inflicting much of the damage while not playing particularly well. If Penn State gets near that many points at home before a whited out student section on prime time national televison against a team that boasts only road wins at Minnesota and Indiana in the Rich Rodriguez era, it's hard to see the night ending badly.

Prediction: Penn State 35, Michigan 31

 

Spakajewia Says...

I agree with Fugi that ball control is going to be key in this game. If Penn State can get the lead and possess the ball, the defense can play more aggressively and hopefully force some turnovers. Michigan's only played two road games so far, and didn't look particularly impressive despite winning in South Bend (when ND's starting QB got knocked out) and in Bloomington (in a 42-35 shootout that represents Indiana's best finish in a big ten game so far this year). Hopefully a raucous Beaver Stadium can stun the Wolverines, inspire the defense, and make Halloween weekend a happy one in the valley. But I think this game's more of a trick than a treat (sorry, it had to be done).
 
Our defense isn't good enough to shut down the Wolverine attack completely, and I just haven't seen enough out of the offense to believe they can execute and limit mistakes to the degree necessary to win, even against a defense as incompetent as Michigan's.
 
Prediction: Penn State 24, Michigan 30

 

BSD Mike Says...

I'm actually pretty confident that Matt McGloin is going to play pretty well. He seems to have a fire in his gut that I think his teammates respond to. He may not be as athletic or accurate as Bolden, but this is his third year in the program now. So I'm hoping that means the coaches feel more comfortable in opening up the playbook. Michigan isn't terrible at stopping the run, but they are terrible at defending the pass. So let 'er rip I say.

And here's a side prediction for you. This is the game where Graham Zug gets it going. Remember last year he caught three touchdowns against the Wolverines. Nobody is expecting anything from him. He's been working with McGloin with the second team all season. Look for these two to connect for two or three critical plays.

But as has been already said, Penn State's problems are going to come on defense. Penn State is inexperienced, undermanned, and inconsistent. Denard Robinson is going to get his yards, but Penn State can't let him rip off any 80-yard plays that take the crowd out of the game. Hold his runs to seven yards or less, and hope they hurt themselves with a penalty or turnover.

Ultimately, though, I don't think Penn State has the fire power to keep up. I see Michigan jumping out to a fast lead and taking the crowd ouf the game. Penn State spends the rest of the night trying to catch up, but just can't.

Prediction: Penn State 27, Michigan 38

NGameday11 Says...

I've sat here with a blank document open for a while now and I still don't know what to tell you. Michigan is really a tale of two sides of the ball. They can move the ball, but their defense can't stop anybody with a balanced attack. Penn State's task obviously comes down to stopping Denard Robinson and keeping him from breaking out for 140 yard runs, if they can slow him down they have a chance. Personally I think the key to this game comes down to the Penn State offense more than the defense. Since Michigan's defense itself isn't much to write home about Penn State has a shot at taking on Michigan in a shoot-out. That doesn't seem likely, but if Penn State can move the ball against Michigan's sub par secondary, they've got a fighting chance. As far as the quarterback situation. I don't know who will come off the bus first. McGloin is suppose to get the start, but I wouldn't be that suprised if that's not how it all pans out. If McGloin makes decently smart choices he should be good enough, but Bolden obviously would be the quarterback of choice.

Joe doesn't coach against Rich Rod like he's scared of him. I don't think he'll try and Trusselball too much. Penn State will need to hang on to the ball, but draw plays shouldn't be the flavor of the night. I hope.

Prediction: Penn State 34, Michigan 24

jtothep Says...

Given our scoring production thus far this season, and considering our massive question mark at the most important offensive position (Center), there's no reasonable cause to expect Penn State will outscore the visiting Wolverobinsons. Except one: the Michigan Gergdefense. While Doug Klopacs demonstrated again in the Minnesota game that he can still be counted on for 2-4+ blown or negatively executed assignments, the offensive line also proved that they can periodically sustain pass protected blocks and occasionally get some decent run blocking push.  Qualifying adverbs meet Renaldo Sagesse and Greg Banks!  If hope is to be laid at the feet of one Matthew McGloin, it will be a quietly productive performance by the Oline that allows it to bloom.  Or fester.


Defensively is where the fun will be.  Conventional wisdom says our lads fall somewhere between the quality of the Iowan beastly beasts and the Indianan holey holes, and puts us in possible contention if we hold them to 30, while some extremists contend that Michigan's defense is every bit as bad as Indiana's and they 'held' them to 42.  In any event it's probably not unreasonable to think that Molk and Denard are more than capable of doing to us at least what they did to Iowa: 522 yards and 29 first downs on a 4.5 yards per carry rush average.  If Penn State brings any of those numbers down it will be because of improved linebacker play, a huge wildcard with all the different rotations we trotted out as recently as last week.  The best of those, tho, is Mauti in the middle flanked by Stupar and Hodges (whose rusty play last week was to be expected).  I can't imagine the coaches will risk giving Colasanti too many series against Michigan's speedy weaponry, but it will be enough to give them theiir easiest gains of the night.  While I'm amped to the heavens about the competition and believe we will really fight, the scars of the Illinois game just weeks ago tell me this team remains too young and too inconsistent to put together a complete game against a quality offensive opponent.

Prediction: Michigan 35, Penn State 31

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Penn State 30, Michigan 28

I’m just glad I’ll be at a Halloween party Saturday night and won’t be able to watch the game. I don’t think my heart could take it.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Oct 29, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

38-24 michidorks

Illinois’ offense is a poor man’s Michigan’s offense. That doesn’t give me warm fuzzies.

It’s sad to say, the best game we’ve played this year was against Bama.

by hbeach08 on Oct 29, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Disagree to an extent

Illinois has a big QB and a monster RB. Denard and Shaw are quick and shifty, but Illinois is powerful. I’m not sure which will be worse for us.

"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."

-Tony Hunt

by Cpiritual27 on Oct 29, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I see what you mean

similar scheme though, different style of players executing it for sure

by hbeach08 on Oct 29, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iowa

was our best game so far. That game was much closer than the score reveals. D’s best effort this season by far. Started off slow….but had a strong second half shutting down Stanzi and Co.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!

by pic15 on Oct 29, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

well,

you and I both think our best game was a 24-3 loss, and that sucks.

by hbeach08 on Oct 29, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

Have to expect it though with an 18 year old at QB. Could have been such a different game if he scored at the goal line. Damn!

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!

by pic15 on Oct 29, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Illinois may be the poor man's Michigan offense

but in a season when our D was already struggling, having a bunch of starters out with injuries was a recipe for disaster. With some of them back, I have a little more hope, but still don’t think we’ll pull this one off.

by dawsonPSU10 on Oct 30, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone keeps predicting scores in the 30s, so I'm going with the crazy prediction.

Penn State – 24
Michigan – 21

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

On second thought

Penn State – 24
Michigan – 41

And I am proven correct in my assertion that Penn State’s defense is better than Indiana’s defense. Woo!

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im gonna get crazier

10-13 the good guys. It’s Halloween night. Something strange is going to happen.

Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.

by skarocksoi on Oct 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

close enough

the atmosphere will still be there

Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.

by skarocksoi on Oct 29, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it, but...

We are going to lose this one…

I’m going with Meechigan 41, PSU 24

by rju103 on Oct 29, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Shoot Out

With the fondness for the derp ball, and the likelihood of both QBs tossing them up and hitting the mark, I think this will be a higher score than most games. I also probly drink too much kool aid and let my love for the Blue and White override logic, but hey, its my pick so:

PSU 41
Mich 35

"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."

Joe Paterno

by NUPSU on Oct 29, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Contain Denard, sustain drives, no turnovers.

PSU 27
UM 25
Last second TD pass from McGloin to Brown.

Mark it 8, Dude.

@EpicTripod
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 29, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Over the line!!!

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" Vince Lombardi

by usn_kologi on Oct 29, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

or Europe.

"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD

by bconway6 on Oct 30, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't know why people think Michigan will 40ish

or that Michigan’s capable of holding a BCS team with a winning record, on the road, to less than 35 (sure, MSU only scored 34, but MSU spent the entire 4th in cruise control).

PSU’s defensive backups are still significantly better than Indiana and UMass’ starters. I still believe this (Illinois did just put up 43 on Indiana).

But just because I said it, it will probably happen now.

Either way: PSU 38 Michigan 31

Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on

by ckmneon on Oct 29, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

will *score 40ish

Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on

by ckmneon on Oct 29, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps you meant FBS team

We are not a BCS team (this year).

by golfinn3 on Oct 30, 2010 9:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

why is Bolden

passing his concussion test even relevant? He’s not going to play and won’t impact the game. Also, OMG Royster use to play lacrosse! #FMITGA

by P the S out of U on Oct 29, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Michigan 35, PSU 9

I know how bad the Michigan secondary is, and I still don’t see us airing it out like we would need to. If we go into Wiz predicted ball control, we get run off the field. This is probably the only defense in the world where i’m rooting for us to run the ball 0 times.

'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno

by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 29, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to believe that we can win this game.

The only problem I have is that I am partial to reality. Our offense can’t score enough TDs to keep up with Denard. My prediction is that Robinson has more yards himself in the first half than we get the whole game. It saddens me, and I pray that I’m wrong. I hate Michigan with every atom in my body. This year has been a series of disappointments. Everything from the student section, to our tackling ability, to our ineptitude in the red zone, has given me heartburn. Without Bolden, we might see a two QB set, which might help us more than hurt us, but I’d still rather have Bolden back there with KNew to mix things up. Nothing against McGloin, but to call him our best QB option makes me worry. Yes, he knows the system, but I don’t see the evidence that he can execute with the perfection needed to win this game. Michigan – 48, my beloved Nittany Lions – 25 (6 FGs). Wagner for Heisman!

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" Vince Lombardi

by usn_kologi on Oct 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

WHOOO COLLIN WAGNER ALL BIG TEN!!!!!!!

by BSD on Oct 29, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll be wrong

re: Denard getting more yards in the 1st half than PSU all game. Michigan is just as inept on defense as we are on offense.

by jimbo2psu on Oct 29, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

but with Matt McGroin, an apathetic Royster, and a decimated offensive line, there is perhaps no other Big Ten team less capable of capitalizing on that fact.

http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

by chitownblue on Oct 29, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt McGroin! Wow!

What really impresses me, though, was your comment about the apathetic Royster. Per chance, did you ever watch Royster before this year?

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? What proof do you have?

This is a team that has proven that it can’t put points on the board against pretty much anyone in the FBS. We can’t move the ball on the ground and we can’t get the receivers to catch the balls that hit them in the hands. The team is uninspired, and uninspiring. Just look at the student section. It’s pathetic. Michigan’s defense is its offense. If Denard can avoid injury, he will shred us. He’s had more total yards in one game than Royster has had all season! I just see plenty of missed tackles and blown assignments in this one. Am I saying that I will stop being a PSU fan, or am I calling for Joe’s head? No. I’m just saying that our injuries, combined with our inexperience at key positions will make it impossible for us to execute to the level we must to win this game. I’m being realistic and it looks bad for us. Is there a chance that PSU comes out and plays a great game? Yes. Is there a chance that everything finally comes together and we take it to the Michigan offense? Yes. Is there a chance that McGloin proves me wrong and throws 7 TD passes with no turnovers? Yes. Are any of these things likely given our track record this year? Absolutely not. I am sad, but I am not devastated. I’ve watched fairweather fans come and go and come again, and after this season, I’ll probably watch them go again. I’ll still be here. I’ll still root for PSU. I’ll still be proud of the team. I just don’t expect to win because “this just might be the week…” If I felt we had a better team, I’d say so.

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" Vince Lombardi

by usn_kologi on Oct 29, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying there's a chance?

The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan

by jtothep on Oct 29, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

HAHA!

Of course I am. Just that the odds are not in our favor.

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" Vince Lombardi

by usn_kologi on Oct 29, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since this might be the only game I go to this year

I have to predict a win. PSU 27-24.

Joe Paterno Apologist

by Joe 96alum on Oct 29, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Michigan will challenge, but barring a complete defensive meltdown, it’s going to be hard for Denard Robinson to even touch the ball enough to keep pace with Penn State.


You guys realize that regardless of whether PSU scores in 2 seconds or 20 minutes, Michigan still gets the ball back afterwards, right? TOP doesn’t stop Robinson from getting a chance to match.

http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

by chitownblue on Oct 29, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

damn you block quotes.

http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

by chitownblue on Oct 29, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate you

j/k

sorry, it’s hate week.

Whatever

by letsgopsu on Oct 29, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Michigan so much (but not quite as much as Ohio $tate)

I hate saying this, I really do. But I think our defense is going to get DENARDED all night long. Our defense is nowhere near the quality of Iowa’s or Michigan State’s, and Michigan could still move the ball pretty well on them. Now if we could at least tackle well, then we might be able to do something on defense and contain them, but I’m expecting way too many missed tackles. That said, maybe Malcolm Willis’s tackling show that he put on last week can inspire the rest of the defense.

I think our offense will be able to do some things, mainly because Michigan’s Gergfense is so epically bad, but I just don’t think we’ll be able to keep up. Penn State really needs to play a nearly flawless game, in my opinion. I haven’t yet seen anything to give me confidence to think this will be the game that happens.

Michigan 38 – 27 Penn State

You can bet your bottom dollar that I’ll be doing everything I can to lead my region of the student section in cheers (SR group ticket section, next to the S zone, toward midfield). I’ll be pleased if I don’t have a voice by the end, because that’ll mean the game either was close or a PSU victory. The atmosphere had better be raucous. Blue-hairs included. If it’s not I’ll be disappointed.

I’m moving to Colorado next month, so this will be my last Penn State night Whiteout game in the student section, meaning I’ll be soaking in every last bit of the atmosphere. I’d love nothing more than to savor a victory over hated Michigan tomorrow night! WE ARE!

Let's Go State!

by Gopher Broke on Oct 29, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

PENN STATE!

"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."

Joe Paterno

by NUPSU on Oct 29, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

except for your score pick.

that just aint right. :P

"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."

Joe Paterno

by NUPSU on Oct 29, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope I'm wrong

I hate picking against Penn State. My heart always says PSU can and will win, but my head says there’s a greater than 50% chance that Michigan wins this one. I’d put PSU’s chances of winning at around 35%, so I wouldn’t be completely shocked to see them pull it out, just very pleasantly surprised.

Let's Go State!

by Gopher Broke on Oct 29, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope you're wrong too

once ya spell it out that way ..
damn statistics.

"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."

Joe Paterno

by NUPSU on Oct 29, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see us winning this game

I just have a bad feeling about it. I don’t trust our offense or defense anymore, and I think Robinson is going to run all over us.

Save BSD

by Kyle_Martin on Oct 29, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmmm

Can we get microphones hooked up at our houses that beam the sound of screaming fans from living rooms everywhere to get played out in the stadium? Even better if we get Spinal Tap speakers that go to 11!
Not everyone can be at every game .. stadium is too small for that .. but if it could sound like we were all there ..

"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."

Joe Paterno

by NUPSU on Oct 29, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

The noise would probably kill the blue hairs.

Let’s do it!!!

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" Vince Lombardi

by usn_kologi on Oct 29, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would help out with the STEP plan, no?

or at least it would ‘free up’ some more seats .. although they would cost arm, leg, firstborn, and 2nd child’s firstborn to be allowed to bid on them .. almost worth it for season tickets :P

"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."

Joe Paterno

by NUPSU on Oct 29, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking like a loss

Just don’t think we can score enough, no matter who the QB is. Who knows, though, maybe something strange will happen. Velcro might get dinged, Taint might struggle. We shall see.

by gcdyersb on Oct 29, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Jtot NOOOOOO!!!!!!

Not into the kool-aid this week?

Anyway, I think we are able to pull it out at home at night. Its a back and forth nintendo12 type game. I think a few turnovers are created and we win the +/- turnover battle.

I think we see McFarve in victory formation with scores like 41-35 or so.

"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD

by bconway6 on Oct 29, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I know; I went all Sparty on ya

I saw plenty in the Bama, KSU, Temple and Iowa games to give me hope for the one thing I want to see out of this season: improvement from Game 1 to Game 12.

I saw plenty in the Illinois game to undo all of that hope. The two starters who provide the most opportunity for poor execution are Klopacz and Colasanti and while there’s only a gradual opportunity to upgrade one of them, the other is a fixture til end of year. Most likely because of a JoePa sentiment that Wiz has earned the right to showcase his talents for the NFL at Guard. Which I can’t totally hate on, but can’t help but believe that 100 other coaches would do things there differently.

I still think we’ve got a chance and that the game hinges on rhythm. Denard can sure get into one. Historically, so can PSU linebackers, but they haven’t yet this year. All of which is why they play the game. I know I’m psyched to watch!

The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan

by jtothep on Oct 29, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are a line hound...

you’re into whats going on in the trenches. I would like to get into that level of analysis, but I cant make myself do it. There are many many variations and counters and it’s a great poker game going on down there, I just cant bring myself to study up.

That said, I think we will see a lot more Redd after Royster breaks the record and that’s exciting. Though to be logically pure I think the only reason we saw Redd at all last week was so Royster could break the record at home instead of in front of me in MN…sigh.

I think this game is far from the cliched “won and lost in the trenches” kind of game and more about what happens out in space. I think that helps us. We haven’t been getting much pressure on the QB. We haven’t been as sure at tackling as we should be and Denard will be like the greased up deaf guy out there, but I think we will be able to do good enough containing him. If we allow this theme to roll over to the offense our chances improve as well.

"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD

by bconway6 on Oct 29, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think we'll get blown out

This will be the first and only game I’ll witness live this year. I have attended 32 Penn State games in my lifetime, and Penn State is a tidy 29-3 in those contests. I haven’t been to a game since last year vs. Iowa, and I really would like to get that stink of a loss off my mind.

As for the X’s and O’s, I’d tip the scales slightly toward the yellow pants, but not by a whole lot. Michigan seems to be in a similar position as us, except maybe a year older. We may lose, but even in losing this game stands to show us a glimpse of where we need to be by this time next year. Get your best players on the field even if they’re young, hope for the best…and wait.

I can still hope for the good guys, though. PENN STATE 36 – MICHIGAN 33

by jimbo2psu on Oct 29, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Michigan not as good as advertised

Good guys do use some ball control to keep Denard on the sideline. Royster and Redd both put a hundred on the Wolverines. McNugget throws at least 2 pics to keep the Wolverines in contention. We give up a ton of yards on D….but do ok in the redzone. PSU wins 31-20.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!

by pic15 on Oct 29, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

royster needing 31 yards to break the record hasn't been brought up once that i remember this week

that’s too bad. I think Royster is everything we all want from a Penn Stater. Unfortunately he is not dominating games like he did earlier in his career, no small part due to this year’s line btw, but he is still an outstanding back, one of the best we have ever had.

by hbeach08 on Oct 29, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know; I feel a little bad about not mentioning that

But I kinda took my cue from JoePa and his answer at the presser:
‘hes done a good job.’

The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan

by jtothep on Oct 29, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

you and I will discuss many things one day...

…but Joe is a finicky old codger. Sometimes whatever you do, it is never enough. It was a huge deal for me to report to camp one year at 290 (cuz, you know linemen should be sub 300). I came in at 288, busted my ass all summer eating right and conditioning as hard as ever. Joe comes around while we’re stretching and has the weight sheet in his hand and goes “____, 288 huh? Imagine what you’d look like at 280.”

I’ve never wanted to punch an old man in the face more in my life.

by hbeach08 on Oct 29, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I get that these coaches are there to get everything out of the players, I do.

But I think Royster may be at the point where he feels he’s done everything asked of him and he’s got nothing left to give.

by hbeach08 on Oct 29, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.....

think he is pissed that his weight was used as an excuse for poor O-Line play from Day 1.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!

by pic15 on Oct 29, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

based on your experience with Joe...

do you think he really wants to win this week, or is he just going through the motions, and assuming that this team peaked a few weeks ago at Iowa?

House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 29, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do I really think he wants to win?

I kinda take offense to that…I know he would.

I’ve written comments that I wish I could delete, I think this will be one of them for you.

Joe would give up one of his gigantic Italian meatball sized gonads if it meant a win Saturday night.

by hbeach08 on Oct 29, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Don't get me wrong...I believe he wants to win..

I just wanted to get the opinion of someone who’s had some personal experience with him. And since you said he irritated you above, I figured that you weren’t a suck up.

There’s been a lot of chat from people who claim to have “sources” indicating that Joe has lost the will to coach and do what’s necessary. I don’t really buy that.

Even if this is his last season, I think he’s doing the next guy a huge favor since he’s taking all the lumps that come with a young, inexperienced and often injured team. And that’s pretty admirable.

Sorry if I came off the wrong way.

House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 29, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He irritates everyone who's ever played for him.

But he also did a lot for me, and I respect him. I don’t think he’s lost the will to coach though. I’d be willing to bet my life he hasn’t actually. Has he lost the ability to handle the day in day out grind of being a Div1 HC? I think a little, yeah.

This goes back to the discussion that was made a little while back about this season being unfortunate timing in Joe’s career. The age gets thrown out there with every loss or stinker of a game.

And I’ve never met or talked to Evan Royster. My comment above was just relating to something #22 MIGHT possibly be feeling at this point in his career in relation to the demands of PSU football.

by hbeach08 on Oct 29, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

and that’s why the abundance of Joe-Hater’s is really irritating this year. Their memory seems to exclude the last few years…and jumps back to 1994.. apparently “the last time we were good”.

House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....

by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 29, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

/laughing my ass off

at gigantic Italian meatball sized gonads.

The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan

by jtothep on Oct 29, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In looking at Sparty

They put up 274 yards of rushing on Michigan. I know our line is not great but I really think there is a good chance of PSU have a good rushing game…..especially because 1) Michigan is not huge up front 2) the defensive set they run 3) DickRod and G.Rob suck 4) Game under the lights 5) The Record is within reach. So mark it down….Royster and Redd do have big nights.

Also in looking at Denard against Sparty and Iowa……he didn’t have guady numbers on the ground…..86 against Sparty……105 against Iowa. Tater put up the lion’s share of the yards on the Hawks. Like you said….with good LB play….we have a chance.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!

by pic15 on Oct 29, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

But keep in mind

That Denard’s total certainly would’ve been higher vs Iowa had he not been knocked out of the game so early with the injury

Let's Go State!

by Gopher Broke on Oct 29, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

Just as our Oline is fully capable of stymieing a consistent PSU rushing attack, our backs remain fully capable of putting together some yardage-gaining runs. If the playcalling remains as balanced as it was at Bama and Iowa and at times at Minny, we could definitely put our lads in position to put some points on the board.

I think we all agree things will be butt-ugly if anything like the Illinois game performances make reappearances.

The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan

by jtothep on Oct 29, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

she above where the Michigan Man called him "Apathetic"

I do not think for one second that he is apathetic. I think the OL sux.

Whatever

by letsgopsu on Oct 29, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Royster just isn't the type of back

That can run well behind an awful line. He made a living off of being patient and and following his blockers. He can’t do that this year. Redd is much more of a juke-his-way-downfield back… so he doesn’t need excellent blocking to make things happen.

Save BSD

by Kyle_Martin on Oct 29, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Royster had some nice runs against Minny

Despite Oline play. See the McVideos for visual evidence.

The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan

by jtothep on Oct 29, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parallels between Michigan and Temple

—Both teams have two losses, both to 2 of the 3 1A teams with winning records they’ve played so far.
—Both teams have a close win over a 1AA team, although Temple’s win was against a much better one and Temple won by 2 more points.
—Both teams scored 30 points in a double digit win over UConn.
—Both teams had a 42-44 point win over a team near the bottom of the MAC (I say “near” because nobody is Eastern Michigan level bad).
—Both teams have exactly 1 win over a 1A team with a winning record, and they won that game 42-35. If you look at the schedule and results, Army looks better than Indiana.

Yes, they have two common opponents, and yes, Michigan has a more impressive result against them, although only slightly in one of them. This is not lost on me. But also not lost on me are the things above, and the fact that PSU-Temple couldn’t have been more one-sided except for the scoreboard, which was still by more than a TD and a blanking for the last 3 quarters.

Turnovers assumed equal, this game will come down to red zone execution. If PSU does it well; PSU wins with relative ease. If PSU doesn’t, this could be ugly.

Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on

by ckmneon on Oct 29, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Anytime Michigan is compared equated to Temple is worth a rec.

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by bconway6 on Oct 29, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've played poorly b/c we've lacked fire

We’ve lacked fire because the young guys are looking for a vocal leader, and there’s none to be found. McGloin will be that leader Saturday, and we’ll see a vastly improved offensive unit. He won’t play great, but his team mates will elevate their play and respond to an early deficit. And the 8pm home game will ignite our defense.

By the end of the 3rd quarter Penn State will regain the lead, and the defense and crowd will win the rest of the game for us.

PSU 38 UM 27

McGloin Despite Them

Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010

by millzners on Oct 29, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Dude....put your man love for McNugget away

he has to avoid pics (which he hasn’t shown an ability to do) to lead the Lions to a “V” on Saturday.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!

by pic15 on Oct 29, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're crushing the competition for Commenter of the Week honors

luv ur work!

The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan

by jtothep on Oct 29, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many turnovers does Newsome have?

Seriously, I was under the impression he didn’t have any turnovers. Unless you’re talking about 2009.

by Manxome-Lion on Oct 29, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess if you KNew that you wouldn't be asking...

this year .. 0 says sbnation.

Year Team G Rating Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD INT Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD
2010 Penn St. Nittany Lions 6 96.6 6 13 46.2 0 0 6 0 0 14 59 9.8 4.2 1

damn formatting.

and 2009 courtesy espn ..
2009 8 11 66 72.7 6.00 14 0 0 2 123.13

so I’m going with .. 0.

"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."

Joe Paterno

by NUPSU on Oct 29, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

i’d still like to see some meaningful snaps from KNew to see what he could do. He didn’t throw a pass last week, but then again neither did Devlin when he was put in for Clark against OSU. I think it was a matter of practice and necessity rather than capability.

by Manxome-Lion on Oct 29, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will the McGloin Gospel

end if he performs miserably?

If he does alright and we lose, it’s not his fault. If he throws 2 Favre-like interceptions that change the outcome of the game then we have a problem.

I hope Bolden gets to enjoy a week off, maybe get to look at some things from the sidelines that will help him in his game.

As a side note-You guys are really killing my Pick ’em this week. I want to be a die hard Penn Stater and pick us to win, but the reality from most of you is making me rethink it.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Oct 29, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll keep it up no matter what

And it may help Bolden to actually stand on the sideline and observe a QB with a little more experience lead the offense in a big game. I don’t think it’s a knock on Bolden to suggest that he’s got a lot to learn and this could be very helpful. He’s been thrust into a situation where most true freshman QB’s would just fall apart, this could be a chance to get a new perspective.

Whether or not McGloin makes it rain, and I’m quite certain of the forcast for Saturday night, I still think Bolden should return to being the starter. He earned it in the preseason, and in my opinion he’s done nothing but exceed all our expectations.

But that doesn’t mean I’ll stop, even if McGloin throws up wounded ducks all night and we get blown out. I mean, it’s not like I’ve been hyping him up for months now…

McGloin Despite Them

Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010

by millzners on Oct 29, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

PS, if history is a guide...

vs Iowa 2 yrs prior, when Clark had his Cxn the week before vs tUSO, they played him anyway. My opinion there: BIG mistake. Both performance wise and politically.

They will probably play Bolden disregarding his long term health, and dis-ing his teammates.

by '85Fan on Oct 30, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do it.....

I had to suck it up and pick us……also had to suck it up and pick the wife’s alma mater against UF (which IMO won’t happen)

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!

by pic15 on Oct 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

With you.

Also, his name is not McNugget or McFavre or McFarve or (Clever Michigan fan here) McGroin. His name is McGloin. Frankly, that name is funny enough anyway.

A wolverine is really just an oversized groundhog. Also, the next man to call a stretch play gets sent to Botany Bay. Beat Michigan.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok that was an great post...

but I only recd it because he has excellent touch… on his balls….

JoePa – coaching PSU 140 Characters at a time

by jaytay13 on Oct 30, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

No....not an elite D

Which means we should establish the run. MSU put almost 300 rushing yards up on Big Blue. I don’t like McNugget because of the way he runs his trap…..not a PSU guy in that regard! I have watched McGloin and he is not an elite talent or even a I-A player in my opinion. He doesn’t have good arm strength and makes bad decisions continuously. He is arrogant….and has no reason to be…..again something I don’t want in my QB. He talked all preseason as if he had won the starting job and then got beat out by a true freshman. If he plays like he did against the Gophers and we don’t establish the run….we will get our asses handed to us. I hope I am wrong ……but his Blue/White performance and his snippet against Minny doesn’t lead me to believe that I will be.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!

by pic15 on Oct 30, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

McGloin, McLovin, McFavre becomes a legend in one afternoon

He torches the Michigan secondary, Newsome and Redd have big games on the ground and Rodriguez never sees the inside of Beaver Stadium again without buying a ticket.

PSU 44-27

by Frank O'Brien on Oct 29, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I see no reason to expect a win.

I’ll be pleasantly surprised to see PSU pull out a win. Our defense’s lack of tackling skills and depth combined with our offense’s inability to score against anyone with a pulse on defense will combine to give RR his first win over Joe. I hope I hope I hope I’m wrong, but I see Michigan winning in a blowout.

Michigan 45, Penn State 17.

by dmoney350z on Oct 29, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

If there's anything I've learned over the years

it’s that what is expected to happen in these types of games, doesn’t. Everything points to a high-scoring game, so I’m predicting a defensive stalemate.

Penn State wins a triple-OT thriller, 9-6.

Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.

by IcersGuy on Oct 29, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

PSU 24 UM 28

Hire Mike Pettine Jr!!!!!!!!

by SweepTheLeg on Oct 29, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

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