jesse. is an idiot open thread. (UPDATED with Pitt Homecoming Photo
by jesse. on Oct 30, 2010 11:17 PM EDT
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PrintI’d like to thank Rich Rodriguez for turning Michigan in West Virginia. I’d like to thank Rich Rodriguez for making West Virginia look appealing to Michigan. In short, I like Rich Rodriguez. I thank him, although I’ll never bet on him against Joe Paterno again. Of course, even if Paterno coaches ‘till 100, I doubt I’ll get the chance.
I’d like to thank the defense for being good enough, and making an ass hole out of me. I can live with that.
I'd like to thank Michigan's defense for being a Karate Kid Leaning Montage away from being half as good as Temple.
I still think Matt McGloin is an FCS quarterback. But he had a hell of a day today. Good for millzners. And McGloin I suppose.
I was wrong. Let me have it. I love beating Michigan however it comes. Have fun at my expense.
UPDATE: Heinz Field, Pitt Homecoming 2010. Start of the Second Quarter.
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Matt McGloin is NOT Nick Sheridan!
But I get where you were worried.
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 3-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 30, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
Even I underestimated the Nittany Lions
I predicted a 38-31 win. Michigan did score 31, but we scored what I’ll call 41 with an asterisk, because Joe, in his great wisdom, decided to not make the score look too ridiculous so that RichRod might keep his job.
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
Silas Redd almost padded his stat line though.
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 3-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 30, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to pretend like the ridiculous notion that Joe totally knew exactly what was going to happen there
is true
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
Forget Redd,
Zordich looked pissed he didn’t make it on that last handoff. And an angry Zordich is not someone I want to meet.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Wasn't Zordich
It was Shuey on the last play before the kneel down.
@collegiatestdms
Rich Rodriguez will not keep his job and Micigan football will be in a world of hurt for several more years
by Frank O'Brien on Oct 31, 2010 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions
While DickRod will probably bear the brunt of this
and be the one to lose his job, all they really need to do is get a decent DC (and someone who can recruit defenses).
Of course, it is hard to say how good that offense really is, or if it is just Denard.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 31, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Its Denard
and the kid is unbelievable. Seeing him live makes you a believer. If that team gave him any help at all, including play calling, they would be scoring 50 every game. He is phenomenal talent and athlete. He also plays his guts out. RR does not deserve to have DR on his team, he is not worthy of such an incredible kid.
eff it, I'm going derp
RR is going to kill poor DR
if they don’t find some balance. I don’t know how he can make it though a game (even with the short break he took)
Whatever
that short break wasn't just to catch his breath
he re-aggravated whatever injury (hip I think?) he sustained earlier in the year. It wasn’t like he got nailed on that hit, either, just sorta upended and landed funny. Injuries like that can pile up during the course of the season, and with the amount he runs, I’m surprised he isn’t banged up a bit more already.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 31, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully the Michigan season will end in 4 weeks and he can start his offseason rehab.
All we need is for Purdue to step it up in 2 weeks and it’s “Hello 5 and 7”
by Frank O'Brien on Nov 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not what I'm hoping for though
I am the world’s biggest Michigan fan for the rest of the season, in what is almost certainly a vain hope for a Big Ten Championship and for RichRod to be at Michigan forever.
The way I see it is this: 5 weeks in, 4 weeks to go, and there are 4 teams with one loss and 4 teams with two. We’re only one game back, and have games against two of the four teams in front of us (@OSU, vs. MSU) and one team tied with us (jNW). If PSU can win out (quit laughing!), Ohio State beats Iowa (I feel so incredibly dirty for hoping this will happen), and Michigan beats Wisconsin (Wisconsin in the Big House is like PSU against Iowa or @NW, they always play far below what they’re capable of), PSU will tie for the Big Ten Title and have the longest winning streak of anybody they’re tied with at the end of the season.
BCS Bowl? It’s not out of the cards yet.
Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on
by ckmneon on Nov 1, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fugi.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 1, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Here here!
To the team I love, proving my doubts unfounded one more week!
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
SCRANTON SLINGER
that is all
There will be no battle fatigue in my command
by psu in the w-b on Oct 30, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I was only kidding when I said I would rip you.
You don’t deserve it. Afterall, I had my doubts about this game and this team.
I will rip every single person who bashed the coaches and also Evan Royster for his “lack of fire” or whatever. A man does not break Curt Warner. As far as I’m concerned, Evan Royster and the offensive line won this game. Captain Obvious, huh? But seriously, Royster despite them. Block for him and he’ll do his job.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions
Well...
20 minutes remain before the opening kick…
Allow me to say I am WORRIED. But somehow confident.
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 2-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 30, 2010 4:46 PM PDT reply actions
Yes. Yes, I was worried. But Penn State pulled out a tough W.
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 3-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 30, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
man does not break Curt Warner's record if he's a loser
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you had it right the first time.
A man does not break Curt Warner.
by VVeRPennState on Oct 30, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, yes.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
On a side note, I heard that Millen quote today, and you were the first thing that popped into my mind.
by VVeRPennState on Oct 30, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Duh.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I said it in the 3rd quarter thread
but I don’t know why anyone thinks Joe won’t faceoff against RichRod again… we do play the University of Ohio in two years.
John has a long moustache
by AdamShell on Oct 30, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
way to own it brother... nice job by McG to make you eat the crow
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
with or without calling your mom for help?
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
by spakajewia on Nov 1, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Of course he calls his mom for help.
She’s the Sh!t (excuse me jessedotsmom, I mean that in the best way).
My mantra worked.
This is why I love Penn State football....
seriously guys…most fun I had watching a game all year.
House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....
i agree this was the nost fun all year
There will be no battle fatigue in my command
by psu in the w-b on Oct 31, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, for the next two seasons,
No one, no one, gets to bitch about playing conservative, after that fake punt.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
How about that fake field goal?
Trail Blazers atop the Northwest at 3-0!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 30, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
someone on MGoBlog
said something very insightful… what does a field goal do for you? It has you go from up 2 scores to up 2 scores… a kickoff might allow them to get a quick return TD, but even if you miss there, you still pin them on the 20 and you’re still up 2 scores
John has a long moustache
It makes it go from
1 TD and 1 FG
to
2 TD’s
@collegiatestdms
No
it would make it go from 1 TD + PAT + 1 FG + 1 TD + 1 PAT. We would have gone up 17 points had we scored, but we didn’t because Joe is a classy guy. In the end, we hold onto the ball, run out the clock, and are awesome
John has a long moustache
I was talking
about what Michigan would have needed to tie/win.
@collegiatestdms
Jesse.
Is Robinson as good as Major? You know what Major I’m talking about. I say “No, not even close” but he’s getting there.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions
READING. What's up brother?
House-hunting with Rick Neuheisel in State College since 2005.....
by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 30, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Same as usual.
I’m here.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Gradulations
You must really be a happy camper today
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
No.
Major had a cannon for an arm. That kid can’t throw for shit.
I've posted an open thread for calling me an ass-hole. Please post it there.
Same thought here.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess as a runner...
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not even.
But I thought about Major today. That is a compliment of a sort. But Robinsion is no Major.
I've posted an open thread for calling me an ass-hole. Please post it there.
In terms of scaring me, though?
I’m getting the 1987 WVU game on DVD, by the by.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, you won't be 11 when you watch it.
I’d be interested to see how it holds up. I’d never seen anything like that before. It would be like watching the forward pass for the first time.
I've posted an open thread for calling me an ass-hole. Please post it there.
HERE
http://pennstatefootballdvds.webs.com/1980spsufootballdvds.htm
Get it yourself. You just have to email the guy. I think he offers ‘em for somewhere around ten or twelve bucks. The game wasn’t televised by any big networks, but apparently GeorgePa and some other guy did televison broadcasts for Pittsburgh (I think). It’s not great quality, but it’s not terrible.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No way dude.
Once was enough.
I've posted an open thread for calling me an ass-hole. Please post it there.
Okey dokey.
But he does have the 1982 Nebraska game which I will get.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
If you really wanna kill yourself...
1986 Maryland.
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highlights late in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRJlX0yebd0
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He is better
I have now seen both live and DR is the best athlete I have ever seen play QB. Harris was a great talent too but DR is soooooo fast you can’t appreciate it on TV. He was shocking to watch tonight. I actually feel bad he has RR as his coach. The system is perfect for him but the playcalling is very disjointed.
eff it, I'm going derp
DR is really good...
and so is there offensive line, but their other skill players aren’t any better than average. The best plays for the PSU D were when DR handed it to a back. I might be exaggerating, but I don’t think a Michigan RB broke a tackle all game long. It seems that the Michigan RB YPC numbers that the Michigan guys were bragging about are a function of a.) the offensive line and b.) the D keying on DR.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Oct 31, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
but...but...Mike Shaw
I heard he’s too good for PSU
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 31, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It's still not even close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owyy2mDwKsU
No one has ever come as close to totally embarrassing us on multiple plays.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 31, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what we'd think
if Michigan’s D was able to actually make some stops, and bring their Offense back on the field more often
and/or if the score was a bit different
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 31, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesse,
I was with you on McGloin. I suck it too! But am glad to do so.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
jesse.
I give you credit. You said Royster was running like a girl weeks ago and you were right. Now he’s back to playing as good as he can play, and with effective line play, here you go. I mean, I wouldn’t take him over Ron Dayne or Curt Warner, but at least anyone who bashes his “intensity” will now look like Greg Robinson’s defenses.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
I almost wonder if nearing the record was putting more stress on him and the line
because once he broke that record he seemed like the Royster of old.
Of course, it could have just been that he was running against the Michigan defense…
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 31, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
OMG JOE IZ OLD
Nuff said.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." - Joseph V. Paterno
He's young again for six days.
And Tulsa beat Notre Dame. Oh, and Baylor beat Texas.
I've posted an open thread for calling me an ass-hole. Please post it there.
But
jesse elite programs don’t do that, clearly you’re mistaken. Oh, and way to admit you were mistaken. Really, though, WE ARE!
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." - Joseph V. Paterno
this week the discussion will be about relevant programs.
I suspect the opinions will be heated.
I've posted an open thread for calling me an ass-hole. Please post it there.
One more note
When the score was “38-31”, when I wasn’t worried sick I did take the time to think, “Aw, crap, jesse. might be right.”
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
I really shouldn't be allowed to type right now.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too..
I was totally saying; “Oh shit, I might be right”.
I've posted an open thread for calling me an ass-hole. Please post it there.
by jesse. on Oct 30, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just thinking about the blown assignments make me a little sad.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I've also got pictures from the Pitt game today.
Homecoming. You’ll think they are funny.
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Very nice.
"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
No, just the Pitt game.
I live like five minutes away, and I had free tickets and parking pass. I left at 11:30 and was in my seat for a noon kick-off.
I've posted an open thread for calling me an ass-hole. Please post it there.
I was wrong, too
I expected the worst from McGloin, but he was perfect. He hit some big throws, and (I typically hate this term) but managed the game spectacularly. The only time I cringed when he threw it was on the TD pass to Zug, because it looked like he threw it off his back foot. But that throw was perfect.
Offensively, there was so much to like about this game. The offensive line was very good, there were no turnovers, Zug (as MIke predicted) was a factor, and the playcalling was, for the most part, very good. I thought there was no chance PSU was going to go for it on fourth down in the second quarter, but I was wrong. And the fake field goal brought back fond memories of the 1995 game for me.
I'm the happiest person ever
I don’t care who was wrong and who was right.
Rich Rod looks like a cartoon villain. Or maybe an angry muppet 
Their defense would suck in a game of 2-hand touch.
Their state touches Canada.
I hate Michigan, and will never stop taking joy in the lamentations of their women, and the shattering of their children’s dreams.
There was every reason to be concerned.
I knew better, I picked Penn State to win in Pick ’em . . . .
. . . . for a big 2 points.
I’m happy with the performance, but before we get too carried away, Michigan is probably the worst defense we’ll play this year.
On the radio in the parking lot field, one of the hosts said “I have a vision of Rich Rodriguez getting fired on the tarmac at the State College airport and not being allowed to travel back to Michigan.”
Joe Paterno Apologist
I listened to the show afterwards too.
Man, they were hard on RR, thought it was hilarious. There is no way Michigan should be 1-3 in the Big Ten with DR as his QB. RR doesn’t gameplan or change in game at all. He just runs his system, its odd to see with all the game planning you see by coaches in this league.
eff it, I'm going derp
offensively, that system seems to be good enough
the problem is defensively they…well they just don’t exist
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 31, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
They have one player.
He’s good, but he’s one guy.
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And that's why Pitt beat WVU in RR's last year.
Pitt put 8 in the box and dared them to throw. RR just kept running his offense….kept trying to pound the square peg into the round hole. That and the fact that Pitt wanted that game more (hey, that’s understandable…they were at the end of a losing season and all WVU had on the line was a trip to the NC game). Bottom line is the guy was outcoached by Wanny…need anymore be said?
by J Breezy on Oct 31, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He had a bad finger on his throwing hand.
The back up came in for a while but couldn’t do anything. They put White back in but he was ineffective.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
I like the conspiracy theory on that game
that RR actually threw that game because he already had the offer to MU and knew he couldn’t leave WVU if he won or even played in the championship game. There is not a media outlet in the world would have let him do that.
eff it, I'm going derp
Is everyone in the stadium wearing Yellow?
Another PITTIFUL homecoming crowd at Irrelevant U.
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Nov 1, 2010 10:05 AM EDT reply actions
And the PITT fans are paranoid about the attendance.
They will claim 55,000 were there but you can see only about 45,000 showed up. One of the big problems is that the Big East doesn’t travel well and has no alumni bases in the other cities. If there were 100 Louisville fans there, that would be an overstatement! I feel bad for the three legit (well, almost legit) programs (PITT, Cuse and WVU) because Louisville, Rutgers, So. FL, Cinci, Memphis (oh yeah, they’re not in there yet) really drag them down. PITT, Cuse and WVU are just fighting a huge uphill battle.
As bad as Minny, IU, Purdue, etc are, they still have pretty good following around the country.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
The Big East is a basketball conference. Trying to turn it into a football power is finally fizzilling out. Syracuse is currently has the highest BCS rating at 30. Do they lose their autobid if no one is in the top 25?
eff it, I'm going derp
I think watching their champion in a BCS bowl is going to
be hilarious. Pretty excited about it actually. I hope it’s Syracuse.
'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno
by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
How would you like to be the team that has to play their rep?
It would totally stink. Win and everyone says “yeah, but it was only a Big East team and the BE stinks”. Plus it wouldn’t do much if anything to move you up in the rankings. Losing would be even worse for obvious reasons. And how excited would you fans be? It would be a total letdown once it was announced.
PaJoe hit the nail on the head. There are 3 programs in that conference with any tradition….the rest are jokes. There is NO WAY that conference should have an auto BCS bid. They are probably the 8th best conference in the country.
Thats how it was when we played FSU in 05
Even though FSU was a solid football team, they were ranked 22 going into the game. When Tech lost to FSU in the ACC championship game, there was an audible groan on campus.
Of course it was a thrilling game, plus the Bowden/Paterno storyline was hyped (more than the game itself) so its easy to forget how much PSU felt like they got jobbed having to play a 3 (or was it 4) loss ACC team in the Orange bowl.
The same could be said about the Fiesta bowl when Boise state shocked Ok. Although to be fair OK played approximately 5 minutes of football versus Boise’s 60. But that just goes to show its tough to get up for those bowl game let downs.
But to be clear
I’m not defending the big east. They suck and don’t deserve an auto BCS bid.
True, but even that FSU team was better...
…than anything in the Big East this year and most years, really.
The Big East is very, very bad.
Aren't there quite a few of those noles still playing in the NFL today?
They wickedly underachieved at 8-5, but they had some serious players, iirc.
The offensive line was inspired by McGloin.
They had some insane talent on that team
But played lousy during the season. My point wasn’t that they were bad, and I didn’t mean to draw parallels between them and the Big East. I just wanted to point out that every year someone gets shafted. Last year that someone was Florida as well as the Fiesta Bowl. I would have much rather seen Florida pound Boise State senseless than Cincy.
Right. They got the dreaded "Big East screw job" last year.
That’s exactly what I’m talking about.
It was either that or the Boise State screw job
Florida was in a no win situation
Boise is much better than any team in the Big East.
Now they would not go undefeated and roll through any of the other BCS conferences, but they are without a doubt good. I would’ve MUCH RATHER seen Boise State play Florida than Cincy. I was not at all surprised by the whipping Florida put on them.
They are this year
but they got a lot of respect from college football outsiders for their win over TCU last year in the Fiesta Bowl. I’m sure that they were better than Cincy, but they weren’t even close to the level of talent Florida had. Florida would have won by 35+.
Of course thats my opinion. But it certainly would have shut up the ‘Boise state deserves a shot at the national title’ crowd.
The BCS was willing to throw away the Fiesta bowl though to try to get some ratings elsewhere. Hedge their bets and hope people watch Florida vs undefeated AQ school, or have Florida-Boise, Cincy-TCU. The rest of the country would have rather watched a re-run of the RealHousewives of New Jersey
I don't know.
Kellen Moore might have had a field day against their pass defense. The corner opposite Haden was awful and Alabama royally owned him and Florida’s entire defense in the SECCG.
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 1, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe not 35+
but I don’t think the game would have ever been in question. Either way I would have rather seen that. Boise State either puts up or shuts up. Instead we get to have this debate for another year
I agree Florida is better. A good bit better.
And I actually hate the “Boise deserves a shot at the title game” crap talk. I guess all I’m saying is they’re better than a lot of people think they are and they’re better than any team in the Big East this year and last, thus they woule’ve given Florida a better game.
Oh definitely
Boise State is a good team. Way better than any team in the Big East. But put any of Boise State’s teams in the SEC, Big10, PAC10, Big12 (south), and even the ACC and you get a team that finishes 8-4, 9-3 each year. Respectable, but not NC worthy.
But back to the main point
Big East sucks. Being the Big East champ is kind of like being the smartest retard.
the innapropriate quote you were looking for was:
“Being the Big East champ is kind of like coming in first at the Special Olympics. Even if you win you’re still retarded”
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 1, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Boise would finish better than
8-4 and 9-3 in the ACC. They have as much talent as any team in that conference and a much better coach than any of the teams in that conference.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 1, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea, ACC was a stretch
and PAC10 as well (before this year). Still, I would be shocked to see them finish any of these past 3 seasons undefeated
I doubt they would finish undefeated..
but how many teams do?
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 1, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
You have to be something extremely special to finish undefeated in a tough conference.
Very few teams are that kind of special.
usually about 1-3 per year
and usually they go to the MNC game. That’s sorta the point of the discussion, though, since Boise goes undefeated like every friggen year in their conference, so thinks they deserve the MNC game, when most people don’t think they’d go undefeated in most AQ conferences (and therefore they likely wouldn’t go to the MNC game)
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 1, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Since when...
does deservn’ having anything to do with it?
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 2, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree completely.
Believe I said the same thing earlier.
perhaps if Florida played better during the regular season
they wouldn’t have had to worry about getting screwed in bowl selection.
Alabama had a pretty good bowl, if I recall correctly…
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 1, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't the Big East have a better BCS record...
than the ACC?
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 1, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Only ACC BCS victory is...
WFU over Cincy two years ago.
I honestly don't know.
But the current Pitt team will put some guys in the pros, too.
A big problem at Pitt is coaching, and not just Wanny. The position coaches are not getting the most out of what they have. Not that Pitt is great…they aren’t…but they are better than they’ve shown most years.
Coaching was an issue with that FSU team as well
Jimbo was the head coach for all intents and purposes, he just wasn’t allowed to pick his staff. Incidentally, thats one of the biggest reasons the boosters told Bowden to GTFO- he was going to hire a shiatty old friend DC that was really going to set the program back. If it wasn’t for that audacity, they may have let him stay another year and gone out respectably
Oklahoma is the biggest egg layer of all time in BCS bowls.
Only you’d never know it because all ESPN et al do is rip on Ohio State’s BCS performances and to a lesser degree the Big 10.
I have no idea what the rules are about that
but I do remember the ’04 Pitt team got into the top 25 at the end of the season, not because anybody in their right mind thought Pitt belonged there, but because they were going to the BCS and so the voters felt obligated to put them there.
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I was wondering that myself.
I thought there was some kind of rule in order to get a BCS berth….something like having to be ranked in the top 15 or something like that. I was wondering the same thing with the Big East this year. But whatever it is you can rest assured the “powers that be” in college football will ensure that whoever comes out of that putrid conference will meet the criteria. No way do they want that embarrassment.
The Big East Champ gets an Aautomatic bid
Their champion could be ranked 50th in the polls, they still get a bid.
I do think PITT has a good chance to run the table in the conference, finish 9-3 and be ranked in the top 20. They do have good players. They have a poor coach. The Big East sucks (remember, they have already beaten Cuse and Rutgers). I can see them winning out in spite of DW.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
That will probably happen.
The only team with a chance of beating them is WVU and they’ve just lost to Cuse and UConn, two awful teams. Their coaching is bad, too. But my WVU buddies are actually fearing that they will beat Pitt by a point and that will save Stewart’s job (who they don’t like)!
Remember the Marshall fiasco
WVU should have lost that game. However, PITT-WVU is a game you should never bet on. Odd things always seem to happen. Wanny will probably coach at his worst, but Stewart may out do him.
It’s a shame for some of those PITT players. They deserve better than DW.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
Non AQ conferences
can become AQ conferences. There is some formula out there- I’m too lazy to look it up right now.
I’m not sure if you can lose your AQ status, however.
I think the top 14 ranking
applies to an at-large type bid.
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Vince Lombardi
Judging from that picture I'd say no way were 45K there.
I’d say 40 tops, probably 35.
This is what you get when you move football off campus. Why they ever did that I’ll never know.
So many teams lie about attendance
If I’m not mistaken, you have to average 30,000 per home game to be 1A, or at least that’s what the rules were when the 1A-1AA split was made. The thing is, the NCAA just takes ADs’ word for it.
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Here is an article on it from a few years ago in the Pgh Trib.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/college/s_465583.html
Here are some interesting excerpts:
“It could be tickets sold (regardless of whether or not the fans actually came to the game).
It could be tickets distributed (the drop count, plus freebies and unused paid tickets).
It could be total attendance (everyone in the venue, regardless of whether they have a ticket)."
“West Virginia uses the turnstile count. Pitt announces tickets sold. Penn State records tickets distributed.
“We’re trying to get as accurate a number as we can for the total number of people in the stadium,” said Greg Myford, Penn State associate athletic director for marketing and communications."
“Last year, Pitt drew a standing-room crowd of 66,451 for its season-opener against Notre Dame. For the other five games at Heinz Field, the average crowd, based on tickets sold, was 35,036 — and at some games, the actual crowd appeared to be much smaller than the number announced.
Borghetti said Pitt keeps track of the turnstile count for football games, but he refused to release those figures to the Tribune-Review.
“Gee, I wonder why?” said Jackson, the Temple professor. "How many comps are they giving away? They’re trying to get fans in the seats. I bet if you were able to compare the gate receipts to the actual number of people in the stands, the numbers wouldn’t match up.
“How would you like to be the CEO of Heinz, and find out the average attendance in the stadium that has your name on it is only a few thousand people?”
John Abrams, Pitt’s director of facilities and operations, declined to be interviewed for this story."
I'm pretty sure the WPIAL championship games
draw a larger crowd than the average Pitt game does.
Actually, no.
Those games don’t draw well at all. If they’re lucky they’ll get 10K for the quad game. It looks way worse than a Pitt game. I hate that they play those games there (and I’ve been there to watch my school in the champ. game). The field is bad enough that time of year from Pitt and the Steelers…why they permit them to have 4 games in one day is beyond me.
They should either spread them out at some of the nicer HS stadiums or have them at Cal State (very nice, but not really centrally located) or Robert Morris.
Where did you go to high school?
My high school team played there in 2002 (Mars). You’re right though, it’s a bit depressing playing there because drawing 10k in a 65k stadium makes it look like no one showed up.
Though to be clear, I was attempting humor by using hyperbole.
Well, I went to a Catholic high school.
But the district I’ve lived in all my life was in the final the first year of Heinz…2001, I believe that was. One of my best friends is the coach, but he was still an assistant to his dad then. His dad (who was a great guy and good man) put in 44 years (as the school’s only coach in its history) before finally retiring a few years ago. So I’m pretty close to the program. Do the sticks for home games….got a playoff game this Friday, which means we’ll each get $20 from the WPIAL. That’s our only “money game”!
Mars in 2002…was that the team with Brad Mueller…the fast kid who went to BC?
Yeah
Like blindingly fast. I think his fastest unofficial 40 was like 4.18 or something stupid
my fastest unofficial 40 was 0.001 seconds
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 2, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
That time may have been legit.
He ended up at Slippery Rock. Check it out.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=85121&draftyear=2008&genpos=FS
Frick, that stadium's cool
River view FTW.
The Indiana Hoosiers: a poor (and less arrogant) man's Michigan
Not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic, but....
…I’m not a big fan of Heinz. I’m a Steelers season ticket holder and I liked 3 Rivers much better. I have excellent seats in Heinz, but actually liked my 3 Rivers ones better. But that’s not why I liked 3 Rivers better. I guess the word that best describes Heinz for me is underwhelming. I expected more. 3 Rivers was louder, too.
If you really want cool, PNC Park is the place. But unlike Heinz its product (Pirates) stinks. And unlike football in 3 Rivers, baseball was HORRIBLE to watch in 3 Rivers.
Now…here’s what I wish Pgh had done. Renovated 3 Rivers for football only….still built PNC Park…still built something like Consol Center, but for basketball (Pitt mainly) too….and renovated Pitt Stadium thus keeping major college football in Pgh where it belongs – on campus.
BMan hit it on the head
PITT is a Basketball school. They made the decision to have the B-ball arena in the middle of campus. Football took, and will continue to take, a back seat until they get out of the Catholic-driven Big East.
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I think people get overly nostalgic about 3 Rivers.
You’re not the first person I’ve heard say something like “I expected more” from Heinz Field, but I’ve never been quite sure what people mean by that.
Joe Paterno Apologist
It just doesn't excite me.
You walk into PNC Park and it’s like “Wow!”. Heinz is like, “Ummm…ok”.
To be more specific:
Seats are too far away on the sides.
Not enough seats undercover. I’m on the 40 in the lower level on the visitors side and even on a sunny day you get baked in the afternoon sun. Seats in 3 Rivers were higher, but better. Section 444 (45 yard line), under cover with a tv above us (and as a bonus Mike Wagner behind us and Franco in the next section over.) Most covered seats are at the top.
Not a fan of the open end. Let’s in the cold wind off the river (or lake, as Bubby Brister would say) and let’s the noise out. 3 Rivers was much louder.
Great Hall is nothing special in my opinion.
Bathrooms are ridiculous (trough).
Buddy is in section 125, right next to the visitors tunnel. There is no aisle on the tunnel side so he has to walk past about 20 people to get in and out. Would it have killed them to put a single aisle there for ingress and egress (noticed the same thing is true in the section by the Steelers tunnel. This is something you wouldn’t notice unless you were affected by it.)
It’s nothing special aesthetically.
And I hate sharing it with Pitt! My seat (which is on the aisle) has a feaking Panther emblem on it. Because of this silly sharedness (and I paid a big seat license…I think whoever sits in my seats for Pitt games should be paying me rent) there is no Steelers emblem at midfield or anything Steelers in the endzone, which I think stinks.
Again, it’s not horrible or even bad. I just expected better. Consol is great and so is PNC….Heinz is definitely a step below in my opinion. 3 Rivers was far from perfect, but that’s why I said I wished they’d kept it and renovated it to remedy its warts. Regardless, I still liked it better than Heinz.
Great picture of Heinz Field by the way.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
I love the way the seats look.
Empty.
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