BSD Staff Predictions: Ohio State Buckeyes
by jtothep on Nov 12, 2010 1:01 PM EST
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PrintAfter putting the Illinois Incident behind them, reeling off three straight wins, locking up bowl eligibility (something Texas, Georgia, Notre Dame and Pitt have so far failed to do; and dammit, Illinois, I wanted to put Michigan on that list!) and solidifying Joe Paterno's 400th win, Penn State heads to Columbus to face the last of their formidable 2010 road opponents. Has JoePa's young and inexperienced team improved enough to give the Buckeyes a legitimate fight? Have the tuneups against the 7th, 8th and 11th place Big Ten squads been enough to allow us to believe an upset win is possible? Will we see enough toughness, fight and talent to indicate 2011 battles against Alabama, Ohio State, Nebraska and Wisconsin could be winnable? See what the BSD staff believes are answers to those questions after the jump. Oh, and kudos to both fanbases for stepping up the general level of commentary this week. Or, at least, for keeping it from sinking too terribly low. Let's keep it respectful, shall we?
QBSneak12 Says:
Three weeks ago, if you told me Penn State would have a puncher's chance against Ohio State I would have laughed in your face. Penn State has been able to save their season and earn three straight victories, albeit against lesser competition. Matt McGloin gets the start on Saturday in what will be the biggest start of his life (to date). Mac will need to take what the #3 defense in the country gives him and not try to do too much. Penn State will need Evan Royster and Silas Redd to duplicate their Northwestern performances. The real key to the game will be the offensive line. If they can find a way to stop Cameron Hayward from living in the backfield, Penn State might have a chance.
Penn State's defense cannot play like they did in the first half against Northwestern against this Ohio State team. Give OSU a 21-0 lead and they will sit on the ball the rest of the night and Penn State won't have a chance to mount a comeback. Penn State needs to tackle well, plain and simple. Terrelle Pryor, like Denard Robinson and Dan Persa, is going to get his yards on the ground if he so chooses. He is too athletic of a player to not be a factor in this game. Penn State needs to force Pryor to throw the ball, and hopefully in less than ideal down and distances. Pryor's arm punts are slowly becoming more like Philip Rivers' push passes. He made Penn State pay last year with a deep ball so look for him to duplicate that this year. Chaz Powell or Stephon Morris need to be able to hold their own against the OSU WRs. And Morris can't afford another Minnesota game, not against this team.
Prediction: Penn State 10, OSU 24
BSD Mike Says:
Before the season I think we all figured this game was going to be a loss. The Buckeyes are a veteran team, and Penn State is not. So no matter what happens on Saturday I won't be jumping off the cliff. Man for man, the Buckeyes have the advantage in this game. So in the immortal words of Pedro Martinez, "What can you do but tip your hat and call them your daddy?"
But still, there's something about this Penn State team after the past few weeks that makes them hard to pick against. They went from a team that looked like they were just going through the motions trying to not get embarrassed to suddenly playing with confidence and swagger. They've overcome a ton of adversity in the three losses, all of the injuries, and the comeback against Northwestern. Guys like Matt McGloin, Silas Redd, Mike Mauti, and Malcolm Willis worked their way on the field and infused the team with the passion that was so sorely lacking in the early half of the season. Their play has motivated others like Evan Royster and the offensive line to step up their play as well.
I'm probably crazy, but I just have a feeling about this game. Everything and everyone says Penn State can't win. This shouldn't bother McGloin because he's been told from the day he stepped on campus that he can't compete. And yet here he is the starting quarterback for Penn State going into the Horseshoe. The Vegas line doesn't matter to him. The partisan crowd won't bother him. It's just more people questioning his ability. I think he will play well, and his teammates will feed off of that. On the flip side, Ohio State is looking past this game toward their big game against Iowa next week, and Terrelle Pryor has been tweeting how he wishes he could play basketball this winter and texting back and forth with Tom Bradley about who knows what. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Bradley has been getting in his head telling him how great he is and swelling that massive ego. If I'm Jim Tressel I don't think I'm happy that my star player is talking to my opponent's defensive coordinator the week of the game. I think all of the intangibles are lining up in Penn State's favor for this one.
Ultimately I think Ohio State wins, but I do think Penn State gives them a major scare. My gut wants to go with the good guys, but I just can't.
Prediction: Penn State 17, Ohio State 24
NGameday11 Says:
The hardest part about this game is getting a false sense of security of how good Penn State might be. While there isn't any doubt they're playing better ball than they were a few weeks ago, measuring Penn State's performance against a horrid Michigan defense and expecting Matt McGloin to do the same against Ohio State is ill-advised. That being said, this team has an amount of mojo that is just right to pull this win off. Ohio State always lays an egg when they really shouldn't, and assuming a loss at night in Madison seems reasonable, they've still got a bad loss to go. If Penn State wants to win this game they can't play Tresselball. This team's swagger has been built on a underdog giving you a fight mentality. If Penn State can go out and attack Ohio State they have a chance in this game.
Overall, Penn State has a chance, and I expect them to put up a fight, but I can't bring myself to pick the upset. I expect this game to be within a touchdown going into the 4th quarter and Ohio State pulling away.
Prediction: Penn State 17 Ohio State 30
Fugimaster24 Says:
I've always felt that of Penn State's three tough road games, this would be the hardest to win. Considering Penn State lost the first two to Alabama and Iowa by 21 points each, it's hard for me to have much hope heading into this one. Sure, the offense has looked better in recent weeks, but it was putting up big numbers against crappy defenses. How bad? Minnesota is No. 103 in points allowed and Michigan is No. 104. Northwestern is considerably better at No. 42, but not nearly in the same ballpark as Ohio State's No. 3 ranking. O, and did I mention the defense has given up more than 20 points in each of the last three games? If Ohio State gets to 21, it's going to be very tough for the Lions to stay in it.
Tomorrow will also be a referendum on just how good Matt McGloin is. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he finally came out and did his best "McFavre" act and threw a couple of unnecessary picks early on against a talented Buckeye secondary. His mistakes haven't been too noticeable so far thanks to big numbers and exciting events transpiring around him, however, McGloin has thrown into double coverage more than a few times. It hasn't come back to bite him yet, but if very well could in Columbus.
Prediction: Penn State 10 Ohio State 21
Spakajewia Says:
Coming into Saturday's game, Penn State is 3-3 all-time against Cameron Heyward and his late father, Ironhead. When Penn State faced Ironhead, who played at Pitt from 1985-87, the Panthers were the Nittany Lions chief rivals. I'd make the argument that Penn State's chief rival now is Cameron Heyward's Buckeye squad.
If Penn State losses by the Vegas line of 18 on Saturday, Cam Heyward will become 3-1 against the Nittany Lions, and the three Ohio State wins during the last four years will have been by an average of 18 points.
But I'm working off the assumption that PSU-OSU is a rivalry; in my mind, to qualify as such, either team has to be able to win any game, regardless of records or rankings. Therefore, I think Penn State is going to keep this one close. I think the defense shows up to play, more or less. But I think the offense is the real attraction of this Penn State team, and after a couple of rough drives against the Buckeye defense at the beginning of the game, McNeckbeard finds his sealegs and starts making some plays. We have the lead a couple times during the game, but not on the final scoreboard.
Prediction: Penn State 23 Ohio State 24
Jtothep Says:
I've been trying to think (one of my favorite phrases) what these predictions mean to me. Early season, without much tape on record, I picked largely on emotion and imaginations of our young talent. Now we're nine games into the season, so there's heaps to work with. With this schedule and this inexperience and youth, all I wanted all year was to see improvement. Well, we've certainly seen that these past three weeks. And, like Minnesota a few weeks ago, Ohio State actually comes at a good time: this is going to be a great test of our improvement.
On offense, we've now got two quarterbacks, each with their own well-documented skill sets. We've got a running back stable that includes an all-timer, a sick future-star #2 and a speedy team leader at #3. But most of all, and improbably given our recent history at the positions, we've got some very decent interior linemen. Klopacz is still gonna get beat, but he's eliminated the mental mistakes, and he's flanked by future next-levelers in Johnnie Troutman (yeah, I said it, and he's playing like it!) and Stefen Wizniewski. And before we (I) spend too much time heaping praise on OSU's Dline, let's note that this is not last year's OSU line (missing Thad Gibson this year? We won't). We should also remember that Northwestern's Vince Brown, Nate Williams and Bryce McNaul are not scrubs and our Oline pounded them each handily on five straight touchdown drives last weekend. If they play with similar passion and crisp execution this week, Penn State has a chance to put some points on the board.
Similar improvement was witnessed in another beleaguered unit last week: the linebackers. While Dan Persa kept our entire defense off-balance for much of the first half, Coach Scrap made what has become a halftime staple this season: 'adjustments,' and made him largely ineffective in the second half. Mike Mauti morphed into a one-man terrordome, Chris Colasanti continued his disciplined play and Nate Stupar tightened up his rowdiness. Next up: Gerald Hodges shakes off the last bit of injury rust and begins playing to speed, and Khairi Fortt comes back from the stinger injury enough to keep Bani Gbadyu on the bench. Of course, Terrell Pryor is freakish enough to make even the best LBs look silly (remember Bowman bouncing off harmlessly last year? I want not to; please help me, this year's linebackers), and OSU has some mean and tough blockers (I'm not even gonna say their names), so we'll need epic games from Ollie Ollie Ogbu and Devon Still (more than a peer both athletically and physically; may be our best defensive player next year), and it will be crucial for Malcolm Willis, Drew Astorino and Andrew Dailey to defend the debilitating arm punts, unlike Nick Sukay and D'anton Lynn were able to last year.
All that said, I totally expect a good hard fight. I think our lads come to play and will play well. I also think we're due for some debilitating mistakes and OSU has enough athletes to make us pay.
Prediction: Penn State 21 Ohio State 24
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My heart says Penn State
But my brain says Ohio State.
Brain says:
McGloin will play that well under the circumstances… Bu we all know how the offensive gameplan will look. And his wounded duck wobbler pass that he throws at least twice a game are going to get picked off. Our defense will really struggle to tackle their RB’s and QB… OSU 27 Penn State 10
Heart says
But there’s just something hypnotic and special about McGloins command of this team. Last week he had the whole crowd fired up in a way I haven’t seen before during a 3:30 start, even against Michigan and Notre Dame in recent years. The team has found leaders on both sides of the ball and the lines are clicking. With a TD on our opening drive we can keep the crowd out of it and force Tressel to open up the play book. When he does we’ll get the benefit of many of those shaky passes Pryor throws. We get an early lead and never let up… Penn State 17 OSU 10
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
I agree, Millz
Translation = cautiously optimistic
by stewsplace on Nov 12, 2010 1:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Futhermore
Leaders have a habit of making the players around them better, so under this logic, if McGloin can prove his leadership abilities again this weekend, we may not be quite so “overmatched”
by stewsplace on Nov 12, 2010 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I try to think about it this way
If McGloin were at least as capable as Bolden at moving the football against Alabama, but also displayed his proven red zone skills, we’d have been in that game. 14-17 at the half. Who knows what happens then. And against Iowa? Had we punched it in before the half and scored in the third? Same thing. We’d have been in that game too.
So I guess what I’m saying is this: we weren’t as bad as the last two road game’s scores indicate. Assuming McGloin continues to be effective in the redzone, I can convince myself to feel good about this game.
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
21-17 Nits.
Three points for each of Herbstreit’s kids that appear on stage with him Saturday morning.
Buckeye’s jump out to a 10-0 lead. Two Colin Wagner field goals and a McGloin-to-Moye 30 yard TD sandwich a Pryor TD run to pull within 17-14. Then Royster breaks through the line for a 40 yard TD with a minute left, and Paterno shocks everyone by going for (and making) a 2-point conversion.
4th down on the OSU 45, and Mauti delay blitzes, burying Pryor. Turnover on downs, McGloin runs the victory formation, and PSU appears in the rankings at #18.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
Depressing posts today.
I’m flipping Spak’s score: 24-23 Penn State. Good game all around. Special teams is the difference for the good guys.
I’m bullish on Troutman too. Get him out in space and let him eat some humans.
Tom Bradley haters: Reveal yourselves!
by Illegal Formation on Nov 12, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions
Keys to the game
—Keep Pryor from scrambling and turning 3rd and 6-10 into 1st down. Multiple spies please, Mr. Bradley. If Pryor is beating PSU by throwing the ball well against man coverage, I can live with it. In that case, PSU isn’t winning anyway. Personally, I don’t think he can.
—No busted coverages leading to back breaking TDs by Posey. It’s not like I still have nightmares about that from last year or anything. Worst TD pass I’ve every seen thrown against PSU.
—Convert in the red zone.
—Win the turnover battle. (The last two are always true)
If PSU can do those 4 things, I love PSU’s chances. Two of them (turnovers, busted coverages) amount to “don’t make mistakes.” One of them is a tactical change (multi spies). One is just about being the better team when it matters (red zone).
The first one simply isn’t going to happen. I have doubts about the other 3, too, but the first just won’t happen. OSU 28 Penn State 17
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I disagree
Sanzenbacher is a poor man’s Graham Zug. Posey is legit, but needs somebody to get him the ball. It’s far less that I think OSU’s WRs suck and far more than I don’t think TP can make even marginally difficult throws.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
I don't disagree with you there,
but I think stopping Pryor and the run game is the essential thing, and man coverage takes the DBs eyes off the backfield and onto the receiver. I’d rather see man coverage against a more pro-style attack I guess, and give Pryor whatever he can get through the holes in the zone.
A very very
impoverished man’s Sanzenbacher…
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
Who is a homeless man's...
Brian Hartline.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
Sanzenbacher is the best reciever Ohio State has seen since Ginn/Holmes/Gonzales…
Sanzenbacher is the best and toughest player on this year’s Ohio State team.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
Holmes was better than anyone..
else you mentioned.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I know..
he was a level above the others you mentioned.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Then Ohio State is in trouble if hes the best since Ginn.
Thats a pretty out there statement. But thats ok i love the effort:
yes.
Penn State fans are delusional but Dane Sanzenbacher is as good as Ted Ginn and Santonio Holmes…
Question is...
do the boosters pay him as much as Holmes and Ginn?
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I said
“best since Ginn/Holmes/Gonzales.”
That means he’s not as good as those guys, but better than anybody who came in between.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
well you're more of an expert of OSU then I am
but as a PSU fan I think Hartline, Robiskie and Posey were/are all better and for obvious reasons I was way more afraid of Ray Small. Sanzenbacher just doesn’t scare me.
Posey???
Oh man… I mean sure, if you go off of strictly physical tools…
And Ray Small was too busy tweeting ladies and blaming Tressel for holding him back from his potential.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
oh god yea
I agree small was a douchea, but he scared me more than sanzenbacher ever will.
BTW, “tweeting ladies” sounds dirtier than it actually is, doesnt it?
Speaking of physical tools...
where’s the shoutout to David “the walking medicine cabinet” Boston?
What a monster that guys was.
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Bunnied...
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Jtot - since you mentioned the
new SBN OSU blog I decided to take a look. good work over there.
Everyone should read this:
http://www.alongtheolentangy.com/2010/11/11/1805853/the-matchup-the-psu-defense-v-osu-offense#storyjump
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I have seen one tOSU game this year since I have been at most of our games
has anyone been able to stop TP from scrambling?
400. That is all.
No
and nobody has tried multi spies.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Miami spied with
Sean Spence when in man. It didn’t go particularly well. They use shallow zones (if that is what you want to call “multi spies” and it was iffy but more effective than spying). Are you really saying that you take two people entirely out of the play to keep contain…I really hope that happens. 4 WR set and wheel route out of the backfield…WHAT DO YOU DO! 1on1 with Posey and Sanzenbacher with a LB on Saine/Herron/Berry…Pryor will only have to find the wide open man. If you have two spys, how are you going to bring pressure? 1 LB is going to be your blitz? Come on.
by Onestatewest on Nov 12, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I'll take my chances
with making Pryor hit covered receivers. I know Pryor can convert 3rd and medium after 3rd and medium with his legs. He did it to PSU last year. He did it to Miami this year. I’m far less sure he can hit covered receivers.
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We lose
Somewhere in the range of 31-14. Defense plays decent at BBDS all game, McGloin commits a couple turnovers on our half.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
31-14 Covers the spread!!
I’m putting a second mortgage on my house and heading to Vegas.
Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western
PSU 35 - 27 OSU
sticking with my first instinct.
Going to be a good game no matter what.
OSU gets up first, letting McGloin and company light it up to keep pace.
Pryor throws the first pick of the game, and PSU runs it back for a TD, taking the lead, and then keeping up the fight through the first half.
2nd half PSU maintains control and keeps things tightened up, good blocking by the O line lets the runs get bigger, and the balance between run and pass keeps even the experienced D at OSU befuddled.
D holds OSU to a FG and their last score as the PSU O continues to carry the flame, though gets stopped for FG by OSU’s stout D, overall a great battle between to the two powerhouse teams until the final score in the subject.
"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."
Joe Paterno
30-6 OSU
PSU offense has never gotten it going in the Horeshoe. I don’t expect that to change.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 1:20 PM EST reply actions
I'm not saying it's impossible,
but OSU has played exactly 3 teams in the Sagarin top 80. One they lost by 13, one they won by 12, one they won by 11. The two wins were much closer than the final score made them look*, too. A 24 point loss could happen, but that certainly seems on the very pessimistic end of realistic.
*The Miami game was surreal. Very Penn State-Temple-esque. OSU completely dominated statistically, but Miami was still very much in the game late in the 4th.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Just a feeling I have...
not based in fact, reality, or analysis. Pick 6’s tend to hurt PSU in games there. I can see a late one pushing the score to 30-6. I hope I am wrong.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
I wish so badly I could say that you're being ridiculous
but I don’t think you are
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Yeah, you're kinda wrong there....
Miami never possessed the ball for the final 7:31 of the Ohio State game, and they were trailing by 12.
How exactly were they “in the game late in the 4th” again?
by Jeff at the BBC on Nov 12, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Because
the last drive featured 3 third downs (that mattered, the last one did not) and 1 4th down conversion. All were converted by Pryor rushes (including a 3rd and 9). If those go badly, OSU had not forced a Miami punt since the 12:23 mark of the 2nd quarter. There were two missed FGs in there, either of which would have given Miami a very real chance on their last drive (on which they turned over on downs) to cut the game to 6 with a FG. Instead, Miami needed to try for a TD, which made their job much more difficult: they had to go for a 1st down on the 4th and 10 instead of getting the easy 8 or 9 that OSU was conceding and having a good shot at a FG.
I see what you’re saying: for the entire 4th quarter, Miami was never within one score, let alone within one score with the ball. Therefore the game was not close. In a macroscopic sense, this is true, but upon closer examination, that game was far closer than the final score made it look.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
So basically....
When the game was winding down, the Canes could not stop Pryor on a third or fourth down for an entire 7 minute drive.
yeah, that MUST mean the game was close.
by Jeff at the BBC on Nov 13, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Crap!
PSU doesn’t cover. Now how am I going to cover that second mortgage I drew to bet on this game.
Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western
I prefer
Man-ho thank you very much. Those 2 seasons of Hung are going to come in very handy this winter.
Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western
I've only seen the commercials, never the show
But, cmon, man! You’d seriously prefer ‘man-ho’ over ‘Pimp?’ I call bullsh*t.
The offensive line was inspired by McGloin.
Something amusing
The last two times OSU had a bye before a Big Ten game:
2008: followed a loss to PSU
2005: followed by a loss to PSU
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by ckmneon on Nov 12, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've picked PSU to lose the last two weeks in the pick'em and we've won,
but was not given that option this week. I guess I’ll do it here. OSU wins.
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If that's what I must be, then so be it
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Two things
1.) Look how delusional the commentators on BSD are! Those Buckeye fans were right!
2.) I have (much like the rest of you) been picking against the lions the last few weeks because I can never understand how they could possibly pull it off. And yet, they keep pulling it off. This creates quite a predicament. This is yet another game I dont know how they can possibly win, so I’m inclined to pick against them, however if I pick against them they will win so I’m inclined to pick for them (my intellect is dizzying, I know.) The fact that its on the road makes me give the edge to OSU (though the fact that I gave OSU the edge kinda gives the edge to PSU).
Ohio State 30 Penn State 14… INCONTHEIVABLE!!!!
Inconceivable!
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For PSU to win...
1)McNugget can not turn the ball over. No #4 impresonations please!
2)The OL has to show it is really gelling and open up some holes for Royster, Redd and Green. We need 150 + combined on the ground….really don’t care how we get that number
3)Playcalling on BOTH sides of the ball cannot be conservative! Tom Bradley this means you
4)We need a score set up by a special teams play….so a long return by Powell or Gazoo
5)Have to have an advantage in the turnover battle
6)Can’t get ourselves into 2nd and long
7)Can’t kill drives with penalties
8)Need some timely arm punts by TP.
Ultimately……I don’t see all of the above happening. We put up a good fight and cover the Vegas line but fall 28-17
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!
Why can't the defense play a conservative gameplan?
Tom Bradley haters: Reveal yourselves!
by Illegal Formation on Nov 12, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Cause we'll get burned....just like the 1st half of NW
When PSU sits back….especially with this unit……bad things happen. For whatever reason if you look at the game tape, this year’s unit plays better when they become more aggressive and attack the ball. I am not calling for all out blitzing but we can’t sit back in our lame cover three and allow Pryor and crew to break of 5 and 6 yards at a time. D needs to play up the whole game….can’t afford to go down 21 to the Buckeyes. Well timed pass and rush bitzes are a must. We also need to mix up the coverages on Pryor because he does not read the field well. I would love to see a shadow on Pryor but I can’t remember the last time that happened (Lavar?). If we sit back…..we lose.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!
It worked against Miami in the 86 Fiesta Bowl
and ever since then, Joe has done it with a complete lack of success in big games. People PSU should’ve slaughtered (Michigan 2005, Notre Dame 2006, Michigan State 2007) have won because of this.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
The Fiesta Bowl was actually a complicated scheme....not a straight cover 3
And we were agressive and sacked Vinny at least 5 times in that game. Jerry Sandusky used more complicated schemes than Tom Bradley does. Michigan State 07 represents the epitamy of the bbds defense blowing a game.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!
They did
but that was a small part of that story. MSU just picked apart the soft zone for 3rd down conversion after 3rd down conversion.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
IT was and still is a disgusting memory!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
I’ll admit that I’m not totally certain of what I’m about to type, but I think the D came out in the nickel vs NW. When they switched to the base D, they really tightened up. I don’t think that’s an issue of conservative/not conservative – it just wasn’t the right defense. I agree that they can’t afford to rely on coaching adjustments. They need to be prepared and execute all game. But if they execute the typical Tom Bradley D, I don’t see OSU having anything more than average success.
Tom Bradley haters: Reveal yourselves!
by Illegal Formation on Nov 12, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I hope you are right....
tackling is going to be key. Pryor is a big kid and we need to put as many hats on him as possible when he is running the ball. LBs and safeties are going to need to have a strong game…..unfortunately we don’t put our best bodies on the field.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!
Yep.
Bottom line is that the kids need to execute. Somebody make a play.
Tom Bradley haters: Reveal yourselves!
by Illegal Formation on Nov 12, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
That is true
we came out in the nickle at first and Persa was killing us by running. We switched to the 4-3 and stayed there and that’s when the D started working. Also, they seemed to be sleepwalking a little bit in the 1st half as well. Once Mauti and some of the others got going, things turned around.
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Going to be tough
If we come in and play to win we might have a chance but if we play not to lose then we will end up losing. It all depends on how good the offense is at keeping ohio states offense off the field. We all know that Ohio state will get the points but if we can keep it close (within 1 touchdown) by 1/2 time I think we might have a fighting chance. If Penn State comes out to win then Ohio State 24 PSU 20…..If Penn State plays not to lose Ohio State 30+ Penn State 9.
Agreed, playing scared in
the shoe has not worked out so well for PSU.
I am going to be ultra pessimistic and go OSU 31 PSU 10. Like so many others, the last few weeks have been so enjoyable because of the surprise win factor. C’mon boys, keep it up!
Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western
by rahpsu92 on Nov 12, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BSD Mike's post
has me fired up. One of the few advantages of having a young squad is that they are more likely to be affected by trends and energy than a veteran squad. After the Iowa game, energy was low, and things were going badly… as a result, we got the Illinois game. But after two super high-energy home victories, these kids are playing out of their heads. Having College Gameday there will only get them amped up a little further. It’s going to be hard as hell to score 21 points against OSU’s defense, and it’s also going to be hard as hell to hold OSU’s offense under 21 points, but the conditions couldn’t be more ideal—PSU is peaking at the right time with tons of confidence, while OSU seems to be overlooking this game a little bit. There’s a chance that OSU comes out strong and beats the spread, but I think it’s far more likely that both teams hover around that 21-point total. We’ll need one big play to turn the game in PSU’s favor (does Mark Rubin have any eligibility left?), but we’re overdue.
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 12, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Illinois game
I don’t attribute to low energy….rather our poor schemes and unforseeable rash of injuries sealed our fate. Give credit to the Zooker too…..he had his troops up….ready to play. Likewise, Tressel will have his boys ready….believe me. TP always gets up for PSU too, so I think there is little chance we get overlooked.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball and Ann Arbor is still a whore!
better conditions...
might include having michael robinson at quarterback and poz at linebacker…
just saying….
by Why did I Graduate? on Nov 12, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Penn State will pull off a huge upset
Tied at halftime, both defenses playing well. The Scranton Slinger will lead a drive late in the 4th quarter and Colin Wagner will kick the game-winning FG. Final Score: PSU 27, OSU 24.
Ohio Stadium is ours.
by ColoradoLion on Nov 12, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
"Ohio Stadium is ours."
Uhmmm… Should I bother?
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
We've won like
1 game in a row at the shoe. Sounds like a complete owning to me. /eye roll
Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western
If we win
remember that OSU was not overrated.
Young Jimmy Tressel is a good coach; they’ve got that one kid who’s a heckuva football player, and the whole bit.
Also, if they play nine times out of ten they beat Wisconsin and that means we’ll have beaten an elite #1 ranked team.
Beat the Buckeyes!
I can't wait until the offensive line gets blown up and people blame the quarterback (McGloin in this case).
Same thing every year, right?
Or maybe we’ll change things up and blame the tailbacks.
"Are all McGloins so ill-mannered?" "Yeah, about 99 percent."
Beat Ohio State.
Actually I think this is where we blame HIT
Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.
My mistake!
"Are all McGloins so ill-mannered?" "Yeah, about 99 percent."
Beat Ohio State.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 12, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
You need to get the blame rotation down
coaches, QB, Joe cant win big games, offensively inept, FIRE JAY!, poor recruiting, then HIT.
Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.
Blame the tailbacks?
Already did that today. She’s a bumpkin, PASS.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Nov 12, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
That's not how this works.
You’re supposed to make some statement about how the offense can’t score 30 points.
Then the offense scores 30 points, and everyone wins.
Now make your weekly ridiculous statement that the team, clearly reading in whatever hotel they’re in in Columbus, will see and prove wrong.
@EpicTripod
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 12, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Sure.
You just have to provide me with evidence that I’ve ever had a weekly tradition of making ridiculous statements about the team.
While you do that, could you look back at another thread from two weeks ago wherein you and jessedot decided to think our defense was not only “bad all along” but possibly as bad as Indiana’s defense? Of course, it’s UNPOSSIBLE for people to change their minds or for Penn State to improve their level of play in a short amount of time.
"Are all McGloins so ill-mannered?" "Yeah, about 99 percent."
Beat Ohio State.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 12, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I'll say I was wrong.
Or temper my “bad all along” with “not excellent but apparently not terrible.” But you said they couldn’t score 30, then they did in three consecutive weeks. So that’s our good luck charm. Now you have to say Pryor can’t throw five interceptions in one game, or McGloin can’t have a 400/5/0 game, or Still can’t have 4 sacks and 6.5 TFL.
@EpicTripod
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 12, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha
Already hedging your bets, eh? Clever to preemptively blame the O-line in order to divert any post-game criticisms away from your ginger savior. "He threw those 3 INTs because the O-line didn’t give him time to show his moxy and fire!"
Oh I’m onto your game.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
Close.
If we lose, I’m changing my signature to “The coaches don’t what they’re doing! Start Newsome!”
"Are all McGloins so ill-mannered?" "Yeah, about 99 percent."
Beat Ohio State.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 12, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Wheres the kool-aid?
I’m thinking its an aggressive passing game with some timely tricky plays like reverses and such with our stable of RB’s that really get us going and make it a competitive game between the 20’s. I don’t know about the ability to put it in the endzone though. I do think Wagner plays a huge part in this game.
PSU Wins by less than a TD. I really cant decide if its going to be a 10-7 game or a 35-31 game.
"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD
If we run another reverse that loses yards, I'll be throwing my glass at the TV.
Honestly, those are continuously being called at the WORST times.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Nov 12, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
someone needs to hide that play from the coaches
Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.
I do like the one LSU ran against Bama...
that type of reverse develops pretty quick.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Right there with ya.....had to restrain throwing the Yuengling at the TV last week
Royster was running over NW up the gut and all of a sudden somebody thinks it’s a good time to run a reverse. High School play call!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
I'm going with a reprise of the 13-6 win
Only this time TP throws a pick that leads to the winning score instead of a fumble. And again, we dominate time of possession in the second half by pounding Royster, Redd and Zordich up the middle.
by Frank O'Brien on Nov 12, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Cautiously Optimistic
The past three games have given us a reason for hope. Yes the entire team has elevated its play (albiet against subpar competition) but I don’t think that any reasonable person can believe that we have the same level of talent as OSU.
But thats not what drives the hope. Some indescribable force has willed this team to the past few victories. Call it moxie, call it momentum, call it whatever you will. The point is that it is there.
On paper we have no business beating OSU. On paper we had no business beating Miami in 87. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain. That’s why we play the game. There is some completely rational irrational reason to believe we will pull off the upset and to define a season while laying the ground work for years to come.
I see a big special teams play. Either a punt return or a kick-off return. They are due. Couple that with a big defensive interception by Lynn and company and we find a way to pull off an upset, even if OSU does dominate the rest of the game. We will find a way to win. It won’t be pretty, but 2 or 3 young guys will make household names for themselves. And it will be glorious.
I'm just going to continue my mantra, and hope for the best.
We WILL beat the Buckeyes! We WILL beat the Buckeyes!
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 2:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I thought you had to say it three times?
You’re screwing us!
'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno
by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 12, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I thought I had only been saying it twice, but
We WILL beat the Buckeyes (third one for you Boston), as I rock back and forth talking to myself and waiting for the straight jacket.
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
but what if that third time is what breaks the charm?!?!?!
WHAT DO WE DO NOW?!?!?!?!
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
So..
Cam Newton, is it all coming apart? Feel for ya.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think so.
I think it’s all BS.
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No way....
You live down here….this type of shite happens in the SEC all the time. IF the FBI thought it was BS they wouldn’t be investigating.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
I thought the FBI was investigating Bond and
Mississippi State. I know that the Newton’s turned over their financials to the NCAA. I think the timing of these allegations is very suspicious, too.
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They opend up an investigation
after Rodgers gave an interview to ESPN radio regarding soliciting funds for Newton. This is only going to get ugly because since the NCAA and FBI are both involved we are going to find out who leaked the information about his cheating at UF (Urban staffer) and who leaked the Miss St. story (Mullen staffer). Miss. St. claims they informed the SEC about the monetary request in January while the SEC denies they received the information about the offer until July. Regardless of when they received the information from Miss. St. the So Everybody Cheats conference failed to investigate. IMHO he should be suspended for the rest of the year as there is more than just suspicion at this point.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
A lot less "evidence"
“convicted” Reggie Bush.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
What evidence?
It’s all hearsay up to this point.
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 5:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You are from down there..
nothing is suspicious about the timing. You think Miss St. is making “noise” about this if Auburn isn’t in the MNC chase and Newton isn’t the leader for the Heisman?
Hasn’t Auburn changed it’s tune from “Newton is eligible” to “No comment”. Not a great sign.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
What's suspicious to me is the SEC not investigating
Can we honestly say that the Big 10 would turn a blind eye to a report from a member school about being solicited for funds to land a recruit. At the absolute latest, the SEC knew about the information regarding Newton in July. The fact that they did nothing really calls into question the credibility of SEC oversight.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
What was the charge against USC,
about how they did not have sufficient control over athletics? Can that be applied to an entire conference?
Somebody make a play.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 12, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Most likely
I really don’t know how much you hear up north about the arrests in conference. The amount of UGA players that have landed behind bars this year is staggering. All is well though….no OTL crews have been spotted.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
i hate to say this but
i actually agreet with mark may not the other night when he said “show me some evidence, not rumors or that you heard he said this” I have to agree. There is no evidence to this point, yet everyone seemingly says hes guilty. i find it suspicious
If this were a criminal trial...
Cam Newton’s defense attorney would be talking plea deal.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
How can you say that?
Basically TWO Miss St. recruiters/coaches ( as they are technically the only ones allowed to recruit) were approached about the pay for play scenario. As noted….Miss St. turned the information over to the SEC anywhere from January 2010 to July 2010 (this is undisputed). The SEC ignored the information and chose not to investigate.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
im not saying its not possible
im saying i havent seen anything specific that this is true, just that Miss State says so. What they turned over to the SEC i dont know. Im just saying its weird that once Auburn starts kicking ass and Newton becomes a household name, thats when everything flies out.
Irregardless the SEC is a joke of a conference. Not only can i see it being a tactic by the dirty teams to try and create controversy for Auburn, but I can see it being something Miss State wanted to partake in with him, he spurned them for Auburn (and their better offer) and they ratted him out. I dont know.
Only thing I like about the SEC...
is that Ohio State can’t beat a team from there to save their lives.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
I actually root for the conference including OSU
SEC fans are obnoxious. I am glad both UF and UGA are down this year otherwise I would have to hear how bad we suck and how great they are everyday at both the home and the office! IF I were going to pick a Big10 school not to support it would be Michigan.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
I actually like...
Michigan folks. My problem with SEC fans is that they take it too seriously, much like Ohio State fans. Too much of their self worth is tied to it.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
UM fans are hard to hate....
Actually one of the nicer fan bases I have experienced on a road trip. I can’t let go of the streak though. Wisco has really nice fans too. Honestly I can tell you that PSU fans bother teams in the SEC probably more than any other Big 10 school. They absolutely can not stand the whole “We Are” cheer! Love it! :)
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
But it's not just the Miss. St. staff (who reported this before the season btw)
Kenny Rodgers has verified he requested the money on behalf of the Newton’s. The kid also doesn’t have a whole lot of credibility as prior to his JC transfer he was about to be expelled from UF for his THIRD instance of cheating……ALL goes to his character and course of conduct.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
i agree with you 100%
Im not arguing against you, Im just saying I dont see alot of evidence other than hearsay to this point. Im not saying you are wrong at all, trust me. Im just saying the timing and the lack of anything specific is a little suspicious (at least to me).
Doubt the Miss St. staff..
are lying. Especially if they are talking to the FBI.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 12, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
i hadn't heard MSU's staff is talking to the FBI
I heard the FBI is talking to the two former players that “talked to each other about the possibility of the deal.” Now I didn’t see much on it yesterday or today, but thats the last I heard. Again, if thats all they have to this point I am willing to wait and see what happens. And Im not saying hes innocent either. Id just rather wait and see.
Nope.....
talking to staff at both MSU and Florida. Subpoenas for cell phone records will most likely be forthcoming.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
fair enough
again im not arguing with you, id just rather wait and see. Why arent they talking to Auburn out of curiosity
I am sure they will speak to Auburn
but if he is being paid…..he is being paid by a booster ala Sir Charles. The NCAA does not move quickly i.e. Reggie Bush….so this is going to be dragging out for some time! Also creates a ready made BCS contraversey for this year!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
True
But I would hate for it to become an ‘end the BCS’ talking point. This would affect a play-off system as well. Heck, it already may influence the determination of the SEC west champion.
Problem is, like you said, the NCAA doesn’t move quickly
Until the NCAA starts laying down some extremely heavy punishments, (USC’s punishment was a step in the right direction) there will be no real reason for shady boosters, agents, etc to stay out of these kids pockets. Kids need an example made of them as well. And coaches should also be held accountable, especially if it is determined they knew about, or at least turned a blind eye to the situation.
by psuphysicist on Nov 12, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to give them the benifit of the doubt as well
But I would be willing to bet LSU wants this thing wrapped up real quick. Like before the Iron Bowl quick.
by psuphysicist on Nov 12, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Ken Rodgers denied seeking money for Newton.
And hasn’t talked to Bond in 20 years.
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure where you are getting your info Paige
It has been reported all week that “Rogers, in a lengthy radio interview that featured his attorney on the line, said Cecil Newton had told him that there was a price tag on signing Cam out of Blinn (Texas) Junior College – "between $100,000 and $180,000."”
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
I saw Blue!
and he looked GLORIOUS!!
I saw BLUE and WHITE!!!!
and it looked GLORIOUS!!!!!
(hands out blue and white kool aid)
"Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good."
Joe Paterno
by NUPSU on Nov 12, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Aaron Harris was Glorious against the Nutz!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g1cTfjbuRI
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
MMMM tasty
"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD
My prediction
OSU gets the ball to start the game. They pick up a couple first downs, but are unable to make anything of it and punt it away. We come out conservative with 2 runs for little gain. Then McGloin unleashes the dragon for a long pass attempt, ignoring an open WR sitting on the first down marker, but it is incomplete. We punt away.
OSU drives the short field for a fairly easy TD.
We start the next drive with a short pass, complete for a first down. A run for a few yards sets up 2nd and short, and McGloin again heaves it downfield for a big gain to Moye. This gets his confidence up and the team again comes out firing. Another 15ish yard pass attempt, incomplete leads to runs on 2nd and 3rd, which pick up the first down. Run again on first down for no gain, and McGloin heaves up a pass on 2nd down that is woefully underthrown, and picked off.
The defense comes out flat, but is able to hold the Buckeyes to a FG (10-0).
On the next drive we see that McGloin’s leash is a bit longer than Boldens as he comes out yet again, and plays a bit more conservatively, but still only gets us into long FG range, which Wagner just barely misses, but the defense holds OSU to a 3 and out, and they punt it away. The game plan is again conservative with runs, but on the first chance at a throw with a deep WR McGloin again throws up a wounded duck that is nearly intercepted, but the DB can’t make the catch. We punt it away.
OSU drives the field and scores a TD to make it 17-0. We then see Bolden on the next series. He comes in and isn’t any more successful than McGloin, but is able to lead us into FG range. Kick is good, 17-3, which lasts until halftime.
Second half we get the ball to start, and with halftime adjustments and a heavy reliance on the screen pass and short out routes we’re able to get into the red zone, where we falter yet again, settling for a FG. 17-6.
Hold OSU to a few first downs and a punt, and we get the ball back with a reasonable field, but again settle for a FG, 17-9.
OSU takes the next drive, gets into FG range, 20-9
On PSU’s next drive Bolden tries to show that he can be a gunslinger like McGloin, and heaves up a long bomb to Moye who looks wide open, but unfortunately an OSU safety is able to come in and knock the ball away. We settle for punting it away, which OSU then drives in for a TD 27-9 end of third quarter.
Playing from behind with not much to lose, Bolden makes a lot of short to intermediate passes to get us into OSU territory, where he unleashes a long TD pass to Brackett (27-16). OSU gets a FG on their next drive, 30-16, while eating up a lot of clock.
Time is running out, and Bolden goes for a long strike, but is unfortunately picked off and returned for a long gain. OSU scores a TD with the short field, 37-16.
The next drive features a moderately successful run game and gets us into 4 down territory which we convert. Bolden hits a WR inside the 10, but we are unable to punch the ball in, turnover on downs. OSU runs out the clock on the next drive.
Final score OSU 37, PSU 16.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
oh, and I really kept wanting to find a place to have TP make a fool of himself
but I just feel OSU will have a comfortable enough lead that they never need to make any risky passes, and don’t need to try to force plays to make big gains for first downs, settling instead for punts and field position.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
uugh...I dont care how realistic that may be...
I feel a little let down, not going to lie. I was expecting miracles to happen. They always do right??? Things are always unicorns and farts aren’t they. Yes, yes they are.
"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD
I think Pryor's 9 times out of 10 comment applies to us here...
We definitely have a logical path to victory, but not a very likely one.
Gameday
Herbie interviewed Mcgloin earlier in the week and it is being aired on Gameday….Is there any way to find out what time they will air the interview….I don’t want to sit around watching Corso’s Tourettes all morning
That sounds like a good trivia bowl team name.
@EpicTripod
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 12, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Supposed to be around 10:00 or 10:30 AM.
gopsf’s facebook page mentioned it, I think.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
I have seen some really good PSU team roll into Columbus and most them got rolled.
Not sure how good/bad this current Lions team is but I know O$U is better.
PSU 17
O$U 31
Hire Mike Pettine Jr!!!!!!!!
Here goes
Team comes out and the OL just can’t handle the DLine pressure. OSU gets a couple of quick scores and goes up 14-0. McGloin gets things going, but then steps into one and is hammered by Heyward. Out for the game. Bolden comes in for him and throws an int. OSU gets the ball back but sputters. Bolden back on the field and is just taking a beating.
Joe: “Get ’im outta there”
For one last drive of the half Newsome comes out and throws the ball wildly, nowhere near any receivers.
The team comes out from halftime down 14-0 but is getting the ball. What’s that?? Newsome is wearing GLASSES. At halftime Big Red and Joe approached Newsome and noticed he was squinting when he was trying to read the defense pre-snap. They asked him to read a sign across the locker and he couldn’t. Ah hah.
Newsome runs, and throws, all over this D for 7 TDs. They put him in at safety and he is a ball hawk, pulling down 4 arm punts. Glasses.
49-14 PSU. MVP- Glasses.
'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno
by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 12, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
+1
For the Major League reference. +1 more for figuring out how to work in a Kevin Newsome position change while keeping him at quarterback and arm punts in the same sentence.
by psuphysicist on Nov 12, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Best prediction yet.
Zug will also have three touchdown catches. He is the avatar of Jobu, and the rum and chickens have pleased Lord Jobu.
by Semicorrect on Nov 13, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
63-14 Penn State
every year, every time
@jschnauzer
Bloggin' at http://joepasdoghouse.com
by Cairo on Nov 12, 2010 3:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yes!
That’s always the score in my head.
Somebody make a play.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 12, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I hate going with a trend
but @ Alabama L 3-24
@ Iowa L 3-24
I’m going to officially predict we lose 3-24.
Unofficially, I’m taking the Buckeye wife to the ND game tomorrow, and look forward to rubbing in the PSU win in front of 80,793 other people that I couldn’t care less about. Nittany Lions win, 24-19.
PSU is gonna be jacked up on Mountain Dew and comin at the Buckeyes like Spider Monkeys!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
That good old Mountain Dew dew dew
"People ask me why I've stayed here so long, and you know what, look around, look around," he said as the crowd roared. "Now that the celebration's over, let's go beat Ohio State!"
-Joe Paterno, 11/06/2010
I really want to predict a win here.
I think we have a chance, I think 17 points is too high, and yet I haven’t seen anything that tells me we can stop OSU from running the ball down the field. Just can’t think of anything rational that tells me Penn State wins.
"Are all McGloins so ill-mannered?" "Yeah, about 99 percent."
Beat Ohio State.
Since when is the ReadingRambler constrained by rationality? Don’t make me link to the meme tournament posts.
Somebody make a play.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 12, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
That was a different time.
The off-season is like a never ending acid trip for me.
"Are all McGloins so ill-mannered?" "Yeah, about 99 percent."
Beat Ohio State.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 12, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
I think it will be a good game overall.
But, we will never have the lead and will give up a couple of garbage scores (maybe a pick six, kick return or something) late to make it look like a “blowout”.
I hate to do this (makes me feel queezy in the tummy), but,
OSU 31 – Goodguys 10.
All our doubters will say PSU sucks and is overrated, but the stats of the game will be fairly competitive.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
hard to be
unranked AND overrated, right?
by Onestatewest on Nov 12, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Good luck tomorrow fellas. I’m cautiously, quietly, thinking PSU will play really well, and Pryor will be crying on the bench with 1:30 left.
Also, well done that no Bucks have hijacked this thread. Here – “PATERNO’S 400 WINS ARE FRAUDULENT. THEIR SCHEDULE FOR HIS ENTIRE TENURE IS WORSE THAN BOISE’S. PRYOR IS A WONDERFUL YOUNG MAN WHO’S NEVER SAID ANYTHING AND CONTINUES TO EXPONENTIALL PROGRESS BY ANY METRIC..”
Lots of optomism in these comments...
I’m ok with it, that’s what fans are for.
Ohio State – 27, Penn State – 10
Ohio State starts off fast with either a special teams touchdown or a quick throwing score. Boom Herron then scores the second TD of the game in the 2nd quarter to put it at 14-0. McGloin throws a TD late in the 2nd to make it 14-7 going into halftime.
Ohio State gets a couple more field goals before Penn State kicks a field goal to make it 20-10 going into the fourth. Pryor throws a long TD to Sanzenbacher to ice it in the mid-fourth quarter. The score stays 27-10 from there.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
Here's hoping for a replay of 2008....We ARE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEI5wRA2KMw
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!
I saw your comment above
saying “don’t feed him” regarding to me. I assume you are implying that I’m trolling. I don’t get it. Explain to me what I can say and what I cannot say.
Am I restricted to say that either Penn State will win or silence the doubters with a close loss? I’m supposed to lie down to comments like Dane Sanzenbacher is the poor man’s Graham Zug?
Here’s some stats for you:
Zug: 9 catches, 113 yards, 1 TD, games with at least 3 grabs: 1
Sanzenbacher: 42 catches, 658 yards, 8 TD, games with at least 3 grabs: 9
And then some extra stuff pointed out to me by somebody:
Zug: Games with at least 3 grabs: 1
Sanzenbacher: Games with at least 3 grabs: 9
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
JakeBuckeye on 9 November 2010 – 8:18pm # According to the fine members of Black Shoe Diaries "we don’t have the tradition to hold their nuts." Oh God, my stay at Black Shoe Diaries may end on Sunday with a rampant rant on their awful fanbase, football team, and anything or body that’s ever been involved with Penn State.
400. That is all.
Yes.
That comment got to me. A lot of you call “trolling”, yet the same people say much more “trollish” and stupid things like the quote mentioned in your comment. Also, the “Sanzenbacher is a poor man’s Zug” comment and the “question is if the boosters paid him as much as Holmes or Ginn” comment. My comment on 11W was a “knee-jerk” to something stupid I read.
My “stay” here will end on Sunday, that’s presumed as game week will be over, but it’d probably won’t end like I said it would on 11W. Well, unless more people start saying things like the aforementioned comments stated above.
I’ve got to say though, sneaky of you ;). I can’t decide if I admire your search of a comment on another site that I posted a few days ago or if I find it a bit creepy.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
I don't get how we can be trollish on our own site,
If we’re posting comments like this on your site, it would be trolling. But this is our home. Personally, I don’t even read other team’s blogs (except BHGP occasionally), and I wouldn’t post anything on another team’s blog. But that’s just me. You’re welcome here, but I think we should be allowed to say what we want in our home without being called trolls.
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 6:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't call you trolls
I said those were “trollish” and stupid comments. If you were to post those on an Ohio State site you would be a “troll.”
Side note I really hate using the word “troll” or “trollish”, lol.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
Whether you say trollish or call someone a troll directly,
My point still stands. We can say stupid and trollish things on our site. My mantra is irrational and probably delusional this week, but it’s my running joke for the past three weeks. My positive mojo has led this team to victory twice, so I’m keeping it up!
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've actaully begun using it in my daily life.
“I WILL ace this test. I WILL ace this test! I WILL ace this test!”
After the exam I play Zombie Nation and bounce in my dorm.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
"actually"
Dammit.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Glad the mojo is working for you!
Keep it up!!
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 7:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Will do! I'm crediting you with all my A's this semester.
Here’s to hoping “I WILL NOT get hit on by the drunkest guy at the party” works for tonight.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
How about,
“I WILL get hit on by the cutest and smartest guy,” much better mantra.
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 7:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I need to start aiming higher.
“I WILL marry a cute, smart millionaire who is fluent in Spanish.”
Even higher: “I WILL be respected for my football knowlege regardless of the fact that I am noticeably female.”
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
#2 is easy, you've already earned that here.
- is a tall order. It can be hard to find a guy who is fluent in English, much less Spanish – just kidding guys!!!
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 7:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Which is exactly why I'll be reciting that mantra quite a bit.
You’re right about #2, though these guys tend to be taken/ far.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
Yeah, most of them are taken
But that’s not why we come here anyway (although BSD flirting is fun, don’t get me wrong). Your football knowledge will impress guys in real life, too.
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 8:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And JakeBuckeye likes you :o)
My mantra worked.
by Paige2PSU on Nov 12, 2010 8:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Do you know where the quote came from, because we didn't make it up
So watch this to see where the quote originated. Some of our players get quoted too, “everyone does”. It is also quite timely.
also, I didn’t find your comment, someone else did. HOWEVER, many people here regularly read other teams, blogs all the time, not just the week before the game. That’s what makes you a respected visitor, versus a troll. Your quote above demonstrated your intentions (to rile up the opposing fans) and then disappear. That is the very definition of “Troll”
400. That is all.
See my responses to dwf5095
I didn’t know that was a quote by Deon Butler. Yes, when I saw “they can’t hold our nuts comment” a few days back with people “recing” the comment, it made me want to say something that you guys may have not appreciated.
Its not like you guys have welcomed me here either. I remember my first post. I was congratulating Penn State and Joe Paterno on 400 and I got multiple people call me a “troll” right off of the bat because I heartily said “now about that Ohio State game ;)” at the end of my comment.
I’ve had a few people I’ve enjoyed discussing with. dwf5095 is one I can think of right now along with a couple others that I can’t recall the screen names of. But for the most part, its hard for me not to get a little frustrated with some of the responders to my comments on this site.
I’m not going to say anything like that on Sunday, what I said was right after I read that comment. I’m sure you’ve never read anything that upset you a little bit, but you stepped back and realized it wasn’t that big of a deal. But I will not be active much at all after the game. There’s no reason to. I’m sure I’ll come on here time to time but I feel no reason to remain active just to get called a “tO$U troll” every time I post.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
if it makes you feel any better
I never considered you to be a troll, or unwelcome (except for that post on 11W, but as the great orator once said, “everybody trolls, posts stupid things, flames you, recs me”
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
As much as Penn State fans
complain about Buckeye fans tenancies to joke about Joe Pa and poop, the “everybody” is literally the only thing most of you have.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
by JakeBuckeye on Nov 12, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
and
I don’t get how this proves that I’m “trolling.”
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
I don't think it was necessarily trolling,
though I was miffed that one person quotes Deon Butler and all of a sudden everything to do with Penn State is stupid and horrible. Knee jerk reactions should be a bit easier to control over the internet, where you have time to edit. I was also a bit worried that you had already decided what we were before you so much as began venturing into our site.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
I posted here on Sunday
That comment was on Tuesday or Wednesday, and this isn’t my first encounter with Penn State fans.
I guess that one comment was a quote by Deon Butler, even though I don’t recall any quotations or citations.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
Plus
my comment on 11W was much more of a joke than it was me angry. After the game on Saturday you’ll see me congratulate you on a good game and you probably won’t see me much until next year’s game.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
Then this is me being a bit of an idiot.
My apologies, I should have given you the benefit of the doubt. The comment was from Deon Butler’s speech to his teammates just before the OSU game in ‘08. I imagine he didn’t quote it because everyone here has it memorized. We like jokes here at BSD, we’re just too lazy to think up new ones.
Best of luck to your team, Pryor’s a hell of an athlete.
"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."
We all have our own "languages"
Good luck on Saturday as well.
"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner
apparently hers is spanish
in case you really wanted to flirt ;-)
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 12, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
And if there's anybody who knows how to flirt on BSD
it’s the JNitt
Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.
jtot,
I appreciate your spunk and enthusiasm.
Thanks for the subtle shout out.
And here’s to Troutman having a 10 year career in the NFL. Seriously, I’m rooting for all our guys to do big things, always. Maybe I just temper my enthusiasm more because I know how tough these big ten roadies can be. An offsides penalty here, a pick thrown there, screen pass gets blown up for -8 and next thing you know it’s 21-3 and the opponent has the ball to start the 2nd quarter.
(most) everyone likes PSU to cover 18, sure. 24-10 osu
28-24 Nutz
First post on a prediction thread,
I donno about this game,
it scares me. A lot. but McWIN shows up and gets us rollin’ for awhile.
and TP lights us up for the first half.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter
The visiting team has won the last three between PSU and jaO$U, and I'm hoping that trend will continue tomorrow.
PSU needs to take a couple pages from Wisconsin’s playbook: Establish the power running attack, and get out to a nice lead early. If those two things happen, we’ve got a chance.
I’ll say jaO$U 27, PSU 13. I hope I’m wrong, and that PSU wins.
Good guys win a close one or get blown out
This seems to be my thought every time we play a team better than us on paper. I guess it is the easy way out.
80% chance OSU wins 24-13 but the game isn’t that close.
10% chance OSU wins 24-13 but the game is closer than the score
9% chance PSU wins 23-21 and the game is just as close as the score looks
1% chance OSU wins 24-3 because that seems to be the norm this year against top 10 teams.
"People ask me why I've stayed here so long, and you know what, look around, look around," he said as the crowd roared. "Now that the celebration's over, let's go beat Ohio State!"
-Joe Paterno, 11/06/2010
I'm pretty leery about this game
Especially because the PSU team feels disrespected by the big spread. Ross Homan coming back will help the OSU pass rush, but the secondary still isn’t all that great. McGloin has a solid performance, something like 280 yards, 2 TDs and 2 INTs, and Royster has 120 yards and 2 TDs. I think a couple PSU drives will stall in the red zone resulting in field goals. I don’t think the Penn State defense will do much, but you’re going to get a special teams touchdown because we love giving them up. I think Pryor lights it up for 300 yards, 4 TDs and 2 INTs,. I think you guys shut down the run pretty well, with Pryor getting 50 and a TD at 7 YPC, Herron getting 70 and a TD on 4 YPC and and Saine/Hall/Berry getting 30 at 3.5 YPC.
My prediction: 49-38, OSU. Yeah, pretty insane.
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