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Penn State Falls To The Buckeyes 38-14 In Columbus


We all knew going into the game that Penn State had to play perfectly. There was no room for mistakes. No room for penalties or turnovers.

For 28 minutes Penn State played almost perfect football. After an amazing catch by DeVier Posey to open the game against almost perfect coverage by D'Anton Lynn, it was all Penn State. The Nittany Lions held the Buckeyes to a field goal, and then after the two teams traded punts it was the Matt McGloin show.

Penn State's first scoring drive went 67 yards in 10 plays and ended with a 22 yard TD pass to Justin Brown. On Penn State's next possession they went 82 yards in 11 plays and took a 14-3 lead with a TD pass to Derek Moye on a slant.

On Penn State's next drive they were moving in for the kill. They went 60 yards in 13 plays and converted a 4th-and-1 play near the 30 to keep the drive moving. But then they faced a critical 4th-and-1 call with under two minutes to go in the half. If they kick the field goal they take a two touchdown lead into the half, but a conversion that led to a touchdown would drive an 18 point dagger into the hearts of the Buckeyes.

Penn State elected to go for the first down, but instead of calling a run up the middle like they had on their two previous 4th down calls, they elected to call a sweep to Silas Redd. It was a costly mistake as the Buckeyes stuffed him for a loss. The crowd came to life, and from there the wheels came off the Nittany train.

The second half was a complete disaster for Penn State. The Buckeye defense tightened up and took away the Penn State running game. Matt McGloin threw two pick sixes. Ohio State gave up the passing game and just shoved the defensive line and linebackers all over the field. Then to top it all off, a well defended and poorly thrown pass by Pryor was deflected right into the hands of Dane Sanzenbacher for a 58 yard touchdown.

Star-divide

It's disappointing to see the game get away like that because Penn State was really playing well. The pick sixes just took the air out of their sails and there was no coming back from that. What's more disturbing is all of the injuries Penn State suffered. Evan Royster left the game for a long period of time with a leg injury, but he did return. Hopefully it was just cramps or something. Stephfon Green went down too with a scary neck injury. Thankfully he looked okay walking around on the sidelines later. Michael Mauti left the game with an arm injury and did not return.

It's a disappointing way to lose, but not a shocker that Penn State lost this game. We all saw this loss coming for weeks. Overally I'm pleased to see that Penn State was able to hang with a team as good as the Buckeyes as long as they did and give them a scare. This is a young Penn State team and there is a lot they can take from this game and feel good about.

Time to regroup before going to Fedex Field next week to play the Hoosiers of Indiana who lost 83-20 to the Wisconsin Badgers today.

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Well,

for 28 minutes we did put up a fight, which is much more impressive than the performance against both Alabama and Iowa. I hope all of our guys recover, learn from the L, and move into next week with a chip on their shoulders. We Are…

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

WOOOO! MCGLOIN!!!!!!

SCRANNON!

Hey everyone, I missed the second half, how did that turn out?

by elefantstn on Nov 13, 2010 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

What saddens me is...

I don’t think Penn State will get another win against Pryor. 2-2 would be great, but how much is going to change next year when have to go into the Shoe again?

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 13, 2010 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

I don't much care who we beat.

As long as we win. Who cares about Pryor?

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant Ohio State

in general, but with him at QB.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 13, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad, then.

I don’t know, I can’t even begin to fathom this season, let alone next. We’ll see. The offseason will be interesting, at least.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we might not get another win against him just because he’s done playing college football. What would he come back for?

by elefantstn on Nov 13, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

he said he's coming back

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He already said

he is returning. I think that kinda came out today in the news, but everyone knew it was going to happen.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 13, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

So did Wells and others....don't count on TP being back next year!

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!

by pic15 on Nov 13, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

he has enough talent around him to contend for the B10 and then some..

I don’t think he’d project very high in the draft.

Outside of well-designed runs and one pass play, was anybody really impressed?

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not becoming a better NFL prospect year-by-year

I don’t see the point in sticking around… He’s as good a QB as he’s going to be, either an NFL team will take a chance on him or someone will make him a WR. I don’t think 2011 will change that. Might as well start making money.

by elefantstn on Nov 13, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

what?

so he’s going to walk around telling himself “well I can’t get better, so I might as well declare”? I doubt it

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not? His career is as an NFL player — if he’s not progressing towards that goal, what is he sticking around for? You have a limited number of years you can play high-level football; if you can’t improve yourself by a round or so in the draft, there’s no good reason to stay in college.

by elefantstn on Nov 13, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He said he wants to get his degree.

Good for him if it’s too, too many players leaving early and taking the money now. Still hate him though.

by HighFlyers on Nov 13, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You’ve just made an argument for him to stay, I think. I mean, if his draft stock isn’t going to be better or worse by leaving early and he’s not likely to be highly regarded – or successful – in the NFL either way, why not milk college for all it is worth and fight for a Big Ten title, Rose Bowl berth, whatever? I’m certainly more college focused than NFL in my interests, but it seems to me that you leave early because you’ll be drafted high, not because there’s no point in staying. College is fine and a degree is kinda a good thing.

by Laaaaazzz on Nov 13, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a decent passer, but I wish Herbie would stop fawning over him. And note to OSU’s qb coach: this guy is a junior. How does McGloin have a throwing motion that’s as good if not better? Come on, man.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The trick is

to put the TV on mute.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, McGoin had good follow through on his two pick 6’s.

Granted, I don't know what down it is..

by KenK on Nov 13, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

And Pryor had great, well, everything on his interception.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

IT WAS THE BEST INTERCEPTION I'VE EVER SEEN THROWN.

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Denver would take a shot on him

He could be backup Tebow’s backup. That would be great, TP and Tebow!!

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

beating OSU is tops...

beating pryor is just icing on the cake.

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

What’s going to change? We have less seniors than they do.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

TWO PIC SIXES.......Momentum killers

McNugget killed us in the second half!

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!

by pic15 on Nov 13, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

To be fair to McGloin

The D didn’t play so fabulously either. They looked great in the first half and folded in the second. The pics only accounted for two of the four touchdowns.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

But don't discount the effect of momentum.

14 unearned points are huge mojo killers.

Just ask Pat Fitzgerald.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

No excuses. Pic sixes kill momentum plain and simple.

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!

by pic15 on Nov 13, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

That's true,

it hurt. The entire second half hurt. But they’ll learn from it.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You are absolutely right. PennState played a terrific 1st half; well coached and well executed. The pick 6’s were killers. That and the 98 yard TD drive; but mostly the picks.

Granted, I don't know what down it is..

by KenK on Nov 13, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

How bout the deflection that Schantzenbacher (sp) caught. We played poorly and had a huge bad break!

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody is talking abou this...

but what the hell happened to Illinois?

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

and how did we beat one and lose to the other?

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Injuries and bad game plan

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!

by pic15 on Nov 13, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

A young QB who just isn't quite ready?

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

They're coached by Ron Zook.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

BOOM, roasted

we got zooked. Today Illinois got Zook’d

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Its the wheel of Zook

you spin before each game to determine which team gets Zook’d

Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.

by skarocksoi on Nov 13, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that explanation.

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Michael Mauti

There is a stark difference in the defense when he is out there vs when he is out.

by elefantstn on Nov 13, 2010 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

Its true...Bani just doesn't have the intangibles..

great kid. hard worker, but he’s constantly playing on his heels and chasing.

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

To expand...

Did we stop them on any drive after Mauti left, other than the Willis INT?

by elefantstn on Nov 13, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

@ OSU

I missed something—why is next season away again? Part of the B10 realignment?

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

lucky us

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

Apparently when we joined, they played back to back games in happy valley. This kinda fixes that.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 13, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Lots of schedule oddities. We also get Indiana away again next season and Illinois at home again.

by Laaaaazzz on Nov 13, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I worry about next year because

we had our “Return” during a down period for the Big 10. Now that more than a few teams have stepped up their game, where does that really leave us now? We’re clearly not at the top, so where will we be?

And I don’t even want to think about how Nebraska will change things.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 13, 2010 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

meh, I felt the same way after 2007

aside from the OL, there was very little to look forward to.

Next year’s team will have great skill position players and hopefully a much improved D

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

We wont know until we get there, I guess

Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.

by skarocksoi on Nov 13, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Not even close.

We won’t win bowl games, but at least we’ll go 1-0 every season with a victory over Iowa and no other losses nor wins.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m really not worried about Nebraska yet. Seriously, after Osborne left their statistics in the Big 12 are unimpressive. Nebraska fans are going around telling Iowa fans they’re about to become Iowa State, but I have a hunch they’re not going to do as hot as they expect.

Also, our team will be good next year anyway.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you guys stop harping on Pryor now?

He played a decent game today, and he’s a good (not great) quarterback. What do you want to have happen?

by Semicorrect on Nov 13, 2010 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

Check out his statistics.

The best way to utilize Pryor is to limit him. Sort of like Russian roulette.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He had a 186 passer rating for the game.

It was far from pretty, but it was efficient. His running was strong also.

by neyvit on Nov 13, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Penn State fans will stop harping on Pryor when he stops playing for Ohio State.

Also, what are we supposed to say for you people? “Congratulations, Terrelle Pryor is a good but not great quarterback”?

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That is almost exactly what I was going to say, actually.

He is a good QB, and the Buckeyes have had a great few seasons. Best of luck to him and to the rest of the guys in scarlet and gray.

Am I the only one who is ridiculously relieved that this week is over?

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

I’m glad to see it done with. I’ll get back to being critical of personnel decisions when we start getting ready for MSU.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Nov 13, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's get ready for Indiana first.

This has to be a deflating loss. We were so high in the first half and then completely crapped the bed (pleas don’t post that pic) in the second. Our guys could come out flat for Indiana???

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't do anything for us, do it because the dislike is overdone

Maybe don’t mention him so much, bring him up for nothing. And yeah, acknowledging that he’s not bad would be nice.

by Semicorrect on Nov 13, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s great, except I’ve already seen Penn State fans admitting “he’s not bad” and going farther than since before the Rose Bowl.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It is hard to imagine going to the NW blogs asking them to rectify their appraisals of McGloin after last Saturday. I realize Ohio is a miserable place to live, but don’t you at least have bars you can celebrate in? Sheesh.

by elefantstn on Nov 13, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What we say about him doesn't matter in the least.

Stop playing the no respect card when you are at the top of the Big 10.

When the Joe Pa poop jokes stop, the Pryor criticism will stop.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 13, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd so hard.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck to you too.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

jesse. is right.

If they’re not pretending we don’t exist, they’re demanding we show more respect to their players who are “good but not great”.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Pryor throws

the most effective arm punt in football. Can’t argue with results. The last two years now Pryor’s ‘hang time’ passes have been the killer dagger in the game.

But yeah he is a very good QB. He picks up 3rd downs and moves the chains. That’s key, even if it looks ugly. Makes enough plays. He’s the Krenzel of freakishly awesome athletes.

by gcdyersb on Nov 13, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

[acknowledging that he’s not bad would be nice]

Needy much? I’ve said it before. tOSU fans have such an inferiority complex. Try being less teenage girl learning about self-confidence, and more decently attractive high school senior who is a member of the homecoming court.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

"tOSU fans have such an inferiority complex"

Coming from a Penn State fan… Boy, oh boy…

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I think I'm gonna go make something for supper.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

We just ordered Pizza

No need to work at it!!

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm really trying to get off of it

he’s not our problem for the rest of the year, but for some reason certain people are stuck on him.

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

No, they're not.

There wasn’t anyone around here last week claiming we were going to win because Pryor sucks blah blah blah, or any of that. People make fun of Pryor, however, because he plays for our biggest rival in the conference and he says stupid things from time to time.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

just don’t see the value in pointing out the flaws in his game right now.

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Artie

I will point out the flaws in his game when I’m previewing an upcoming game or when I hear a dumb announcer offering praise that he doesn’t deserve.

And another thing, I didn’t see anyone around here talking about Terrelle Pryor or his flaws until an OSU fan mentioned it. I could be wrong because I didn’t read every comment, but that was the impression I got.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

there's some discussion near the top about whether he should stay or go to the NFL

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

He's the most..

overhyped game manager ever. That’s why.

Opulence, I has it.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah

Its because some of you are SO cynical and hateful its ridiculous.

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Look

If the guy’s gonna say things like “9 out of 10 times” or whatever, people here are going to use it as a meme fodder.

That’s all there is to it.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Look

if Pryor went into Beaver Stadium and behaved the way McGloin did when he was hot he would be considered an “arrogant asshole punk.” Not when McGloin does though, because its such “moxy.”

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

So what’s your point?

Penn State fans will make fun of Terrelle Pryor because he plays for Ohio State and because he says stupid things from time to time.

These demands for more respect are just silly, especially since some of us here (spakajewia and fugimaster24) are always talking the guy up. You won, why do you have to demand respect? Is this just an Ohio State fan thing?

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't demand respect?

I just hate when Penn State fans deny the fact that its because of his college choice. I’m not saying you did or have, but most Penn State fans will absolutely deny it.

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, I don’t recall here anyone acting like they dislike Pryor because he went to OSU.

I’m not saying you guys are making up offenses, but this is getting incredibly tiresome. We’re, or at least I, not going to go out of our way to praise his “good but not greatness” to please you guys.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

sigh

like their dislike for Pryor is unrelated to his playing for OSU.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, here's what I'll do.

I’ll get PSU fans to fill Beaver Stadium.

And you can give them a stern talkin’ to.

Jesus Christ, man. Your incessant whining is unbecoming.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

are you f***ing serious???

This has jack shit to do with his college choice.

by PSUWifey on Nov 13, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

he's an arrogant, ignorant dufus

so he’s easy to make fun of. The End.

by PSUWifey on Nov 13, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahah, I'll copy and paste for you.

if Pryor went into Beaver Stadium and behaved the way McGloin did when he was hot he would be considered an "arrogant asshole punk." Not when McGloin does though, because its such "moxy."

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

It’s the reason Morelli was disliked.

It’s the reason we appreciate the simple toss of the ball to an official after a TD.

It’s the reason we loved Tamba Hali’s walk after arguably the biggest PSU play of the 21st century.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

We appreciate our players treating everyone…EVERYONE respectfully.

by PSUWifey on Nov 13, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, nevermind what I said. Tee hee hee.

"The coaches don't know what they're doing! Start Newsome!"
Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It is how he made his choice

basically did a whole Lebron James type deal, stretched out the hype, and made it a media circus.

I guess folks in Ohio aren’t pissed at Lebron though . . . .

by gcdyersb on Nov 13, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

thats it....

and then to top it off, he just said we were “too country” for him.

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

it's not even HOW he made his choice

That is looooong past my memory. It’s the fact that he plays for OSU and says and does really stupid things.

Think “Mike Vick” eye black.

by PSUWifey on Nov 13, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but . . . .

we wouldn’t even notice if he hadn’t made himself a lightning rod of idiocy in the 1st place. Many athletes say stupid stuff. He was just way up on our radar.

by gcdyersb on Nov 13, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree

He was way up on our radar because of the media love fest.

Our players don’t say things THAT stupid.

With the exception of Bware who isn’t the most hyped QB in the nation.

by PSUWifey on Nov 13, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

the whole Lebron thing has made people from Cleveland just plain annoying. Why is yourself worth tied to a professional basketball player.

Opulence, I has it.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

because you're Cleveland

and have nothing else of worth

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by skarocksoi on Nov 13, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

FALSE

Not everyone from Cleveland has no worth. But man would I have loved to see a win today. I hate living in this damn state. So basically on the contrary eff OHIO this state is a crap hole and the fans here are all front runners well except Cleveland fans, we are all miserable. I probably sound like a fool but I don’t care right now.

by ClevelandCrazy29 on Nov 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Because they live in one of the more depressed Rust Belt cities.

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by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Or Gary.

So they’re in 3rd place. Congrats, Cleveland.

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by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Watch it

my dad was born in Gary!! (really)

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by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I said it before:

Pryor is like Russian roulette. He’s best when he’s limited. He’s a good QB, not great. A Troy Smith, perhaps. No shame in that.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Main, you could be right. In Tressel’s system, I’ll take a ‘good’ QB.

Granted, I don't know what down it is..

by KenK on Nov 13, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Tressel does not need Drew Brees under center.

But then again, it comes with the territory. Recruit enough solid players, and a weaker QB isn’t a big deal. Not that he’s weak.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm cynical..

but not hateful. He’s very good when he doesn’t need to win the game. He’s more Craig Krentzel (sp?) than Cam Newton.

Opulence, I has it.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Put Matt McGloin as the Buckeye QB and they'd be undefeated.

They have too much talent to be also rans. At least they did get beat by a good team this year (and 2008). Last year was an abomination.

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by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That was the stupidest thing I ever read

But then again, McGlointSpread did throw as many TD passes to Buckeye players as Pryor did.

by Jeff at the BBC on Nov 14, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey tough guy

please feel free to return to the BBC as soon as possible. Post-victory chest thumping reeks of “Teenager being introduced to the internet.”

by jimbo2psu on Nov 15, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think so.

Pryor works within their system well enough. I don’t know if McGloin would, he isn’t the scrambler that Pryor is— very few people have legs like that kid— so Tressel and crew would have to adjust to that. The way they play offensively is designed around TP strengths.

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by dwf5095 on Nov 14, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Um, NO

You’re kidding, right?

by PSUWifey on Nov 13, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The biggest play of the game was not..

one of the pick 6’s. It was Devon Smith’s drop on 3rd down. PSU was moving the ball and MCG dropped in the type of pass a very few QBs at PSU have ever been able to throw and Smith just drops it.

Opulence, I has it.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2010 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

That was huge..

but their were other plays..

bani whiffing deep in buckeye territory stands out

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

that one was big too...

but if PSU could’ve just scored on that drive…

Opulence, I has it.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

we could do this all night..if only Bani could learn how to hit and wrap..

the game needs to be won on both sides of the ball.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not going anywhere...

kidding. I just don’t like everyone jumping on the QB.

Opulence, I has it.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It was hard to tell

But on the replay of MooMoo’s drop, it lookedto me like maybe the DB got his hand in MooMoo’s facemask and distracted him. However, I would like to see it a couple more times in slomo before I bet my first born on it.

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by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, I thought that ball was a bit underthrown, causing Devon to have to slow down to catch it and allowed the DB to catch up. I’m not saying it was a bad throw, but it wasn’t that perfect.

by Laaaaazzz on Nov 13, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Good game to you all.

Boom Herron just gave this team the lift it needed and McGloin kind of fell apart from there… I know if I say anything else I’ll get the infamous “tO$U troll” comment so I’ll just say great game and good luck to you the rest of the season.

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by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

You too.

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by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Pressing question now

What do I eat for dinner?

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by skarocksoi on Nov 13, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Egg sandwich.

Lots of protein.

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Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Chili cheese dogs

Deep fried, if possible

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by IcersGuy on Nov 13, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Humble pie

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 13, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

I have tickets to FedEx Saturday. I’m going to go, tailgate with my brother, eat some food and drink some beers, and hopefully soothe this pain with a good ol’ Hoosier thumping. It should be enjoyable regardless of who starts at QB.

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by 06Lion on Nov 13, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

So wait...if I say..

9 out of 10 times we beat the buckeyes, do I get ridiculed?

;-) (troll face)

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Yes!

By me!

(ridicule face).

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by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't wait until jesse. comes back and I can tell he's right about these people.

Good lord.

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by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

where's he been?

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would you want to say "I told you so"

to your fellow fans? Is he expecting brownie points?

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by OMEGAMAN on Nov 13, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

In the past, he said Ohio State fans can’t decide whether to ignore us or demand our love and respect. I think he’s right.

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Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I see.

I thought it was a comment about our QB situation.

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by OMEGAMAN on Nov 13, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

So when in doubt

They decide to do both. Ignore us while demanding love and respect.

"People ask me why I've stayed here so long, and you know what? Look around, look around. Now that the celebration's over, let's go beat Ohio State."

~Joe Vincent Paterno

by jman07 on Nov 15, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Good news...

Rutgers lost today to Syracuse.

So the top teams in the countries now go-

-Auburn
-Every team Rutgers has lost to
-Rutgers

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by OMEGAMAN on Nov 13, 2010 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

that sounds like a troll that used to come on...

RutgersAl or something.

and we only recruit Rutgers’ leftovers from NJ

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ohio State fans

Why expect us to give Pryor and the other players accolades and “respect” when your own fans boo their own team off the field at half?

If I’m an OSU player, I’m telling the media after the game that the fanbase can pound salt.

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by 06Lion on Nov 13, 2010 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

A) Have you seen the way your fans react to your team facing adversity?

B) We may have been booing Penn State and McGloin.

C) We may have been booing Tressel. This is probably what it was.

D) I don’t demand you to respect our players or what not. I just demand that you don’t deny that your lack of respect and your hate is because of said player’s college choice.

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Absurd.

Don’t change your story now, pal.

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Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't change my story?

Said the same thing I said above.

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by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m just wondering when we change from “Show Pryor more respect” to “What’s Penn State? Seriously, never heard of it.”

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by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

As respects...

A.) every fan base is that way.

Opulence, I has it.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 13, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude seriously

I’ll type this in caps so you understand….
95% OF PENN STATE’S FANBASE IS GLAD PRYOR DECIDED NOT TO COME TO PENN STATE.

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by 06Lion on Nov 13, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think we could use him

as a TE this year. And probably QB, too, to be honest. But his words are not so good when they exit his mouth.

by gcdyersb on Nov 13, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

JayPa would have taught him how to throw it

I don’t like him as a person but he sure can run the football!

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Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

THIS

we might have been bummed for about five minutes…that was quickly erased when he opened his mouth.

by PSUWifey on Nov 13, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Take your demand and blow it out your ass.

You’re such a whiny little bitch.

You have a great team. A talented coach. A passionate fan base.

And you’re sitting here, crying over a perceived slight to your QB who’s “good, not great”.

My God.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Stay classy,

Happy Valley.

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You too, Columbus

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by skarocksoi on Nov 13, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets not even

Talk about fan bases. O$U has the worst when it comes to hospitality and demeanor. Why do you think PSU is always one of the best, we actually respect the other team and don’t shit talk after wins.

by cmdpsu15 on Nov 13, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

...and he was AT a Penn State game

I’m from Cleveland, it doesn’t men I’m not part of the Ohio State fan base.

He’s your asshole, you have to own him.

by Jeff at the BBC on Nov 14, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

He was a Pitt student

Not just from the city.

And he wasn’t at the game, he was drunk at a frat.

Save BSD

by Kyle_Martin on Nov 14, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't think that's possible...

Wisconsin, Big Ten Champions for the first time since 1999...
Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 7, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

And I apologize for profanity.

But your wearing out your welcome very quickly by acting the way you are. And you’re not changing anyone’s perception of tOSU fans.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Wearing out my welcome?

If I ever was welcome.

From my first post congratulating Joe Pa I was a “tO$U troll.” Most of you are impossible to talk to.

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry Mrs. Technical.

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

that's not semantics

You are whining up a storm. Ask my kids, whining gets you no where.

by PSUWifey on Nov 13, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get this.

OSU won.

OSU has a great team.

OSU has a heck of a fun end to the season ahead.

And you’re here, still whining.

Please. Stop.

by MainLion on Nov 13, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No wonder you’re not welcome, you act like a 4th grader. There aren’t many fan bases in the country that set me off but, Ohio State is by far the most ignorant fan base in the country. First off any team that boos their team at halftime because they are down 14-3 doesn’t deserve to call themselves fans. Secondly, most OSU “fans” are to ignorant to realize that they talk trash. I’m sorry but even though walk around like your shit doesn’t stink your ignorant. You know just as well as I do, the only reason you were on BSD is because you wanted to be superior on the internet. Well grow up.

by ClevelandCrazy29 on Nov 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Cool.

Just a couple of bullet points.

A) I hated the booing. The funniest thing is that you all presume that I believe that Ohio State has one of the best fan bases in the country. For the most part, I dislike our fan base. Maybe 1 out of 10 Ohio State fans I’ll enjoy talking to. That’s why I like elevenwarriors.com as my blog of residence. They are very low key, don’t take the game too seriously, and the members on there are great for the most part.

B) I haven’t talked trash on this thread at all. Here are my two posts:

“Good game to you all. Boom Herron just gave this team the lift it needed and McGloin kind of fell apart from there… I know if I say anything else I’ll get the infamous "tO$U troll" comment so I’ll just say great game and good luck to you the rest of the season.”

“Well good game again. Another elongated argument later…You can’t seem to defend your quarterback around here without a mad storm coming at you. I wasn’t the one that brought up Pryor in the first place, but that’s the way some of you feel. Of course I’m going to come to Pryor’s defense if I feel someone is talking him down and I disagree with \him/her.”

The rest have been responses to people speaking negatively about Terrelle Pryor and the buckeyes. Excuse me, but I do feel a certain desire to defend Ohio State football. Its just natural at this point. I never brought up Pryor in the first place or anything like some have somehow claimed that I did.

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 14, 2010 3:41 AM EST up reply actions  

May I ask why do you have to defend them on a Penn State blog that you know nobody will agree with you on?

by ClevelandCrazy29 on Nov 14, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

You're still here?

“In the dark, he waits. When the wind sightly blows, when something is muttered about iOSU football, when Pryor’s manhood is questioned, he pounces. He defends all that Ohio has. When no one gives a damn about anything associated with Ohio, he appears, too. He is … insecure.”

by MainLion on Nov 15, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

If you spend more time around here, you will find that that is not true.

Sorry someone was rude, but it’s just not true.

Cheers.

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Beat Sam Lickliter.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Really,

please read what you just wrote. I can’t wait to apologize to Jim.

by cwarner28 on Nov 13, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Too much animosity in here..

everyone needs to drink an adult beverage of their choice.

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

For me it's not animosity, it's befuddlement.

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by ReadingRambler on Nov 13, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright

It’s time to strip down and oil up! We gonna settle this with some old fashioned wrasslin!

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by skarocksoi on Nov 13, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Good thing we're not punching each other like Auburn and Georgia

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

I've got a $100-180k.....can I get a good QB up in here?

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

wow

what a photoshop

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by skarocksoi on Nov 13, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

F Auburn!

If Newton was a Lion he wouldn’t have played today ala Austin Scott!

I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball! Let's crack some nuts!

by pic15 on Nov 13, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This thread summed up....

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

Whoa, whoa, whoa!

Who was wrong?

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by skarocksoi on Nov 13, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what I wanna know.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's totally find that punk and beat him up!

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by skarocksoi on Nov 13, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, this disintergrated rather quickly.

We lost a game that pretty much everyone expected to lose. Let’s move on.

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by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

Join us in the Primetime Open Thread!

Sure, there’s basically nobody over there. But I’m singing songs! (or something…)

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by IcersGuy on Nov 13, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Will do.

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by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

"Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast"

“It jumped up a notch”

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 13, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I must admit - this game's result may be my fault

Around 3pm, my buddy asks me if I want to go surfing. Waves are head high, peeling down the beach, sun’s shining. I say “no”, gotta watch my team play in a game they are big undergogs in. College football gods smile at my PSU support and Penn State plays an unbelievable first half.

Halftime and the family wants to go out for dinner. Great Italian place close by, awesome food, good bottle of wine. Eat and drink til I’m happy as pie, forgetting all about the game. Come home at 7:15, college football gods were upset w/ me, Penn Sate blows the 2nd half.

I sincerely apologize to all my Penn State family for my lack of support in the 2nd half. (But the chicken saltimbocca ws amazing!!)

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 13, 2010 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

So YOU'RE to blame!

But seriously, if I wasn’t married to Mike and someone tempted me with good Italian food…I’d be right there with ya

by PSUWifey on Nov 13, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as "great Italian place" isn't Olive Garden

You’re fine. Otherwise, yes, you deserve all the blame.

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by IcersGuy on Nov 13, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I ate at OG once and will never ever ever eat there again.
Ever.
Ever.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 13, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you, sir

are a winner at life!

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by IcersGuy on Nov 13, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I ate at a great Italian place in Trexlertown, PA

Joe’s Pizza

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Well good game again

Another elongated argument later…

You can’t seem to defend your quarterback around here without a mad storm coming at you. I wasn’t the one that brought up Pryor in the first place, but that’s the way some of you feel. Of course I’m going to come to Pryor’s defense if I feel someone is talking him down and I disagree with \him/her.

"Needless to say... you're dead to me." -Arthur Spooner

by JakeBuckeye on Nov 13, 2010 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

waste of time

these fans are gonna hate on him if he was perfect in every way.

waste of time complaining about them. Just laugh at them haha

by edro on Nov 13, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me

I don’t understand your need to come on another tam’s website to try to defend your QB b/c some people on the internet that you don’t even know and are upset that their team didn’t win & said something not nice about a player on your team. Good grief!

You won – gradulations! Poking your nose in here is only gonna get you grief and you know it. Makes you look like a sore winner.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 13, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You did a fine job of defending him

We just don’t like him and his comments and are really glad you have TP the person (not the FB player)

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 13, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I apologize if this joke has been made before, but...

That’s two weeks in a row McGloin has thrown for 4 touchdowns.

/PSU fan, trying to find some levity in the whole thing.

by Salt on Nov 13, 2010 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

The way to defeat tOSU is to make Pryor beat you with his his arm. The way to force that is to score enough points that tOSU can’t rely on their running game. That’s a major reason why I disagree with the call to go for it on 4th and 1 in the second quarter. Kicking the FG and making it a full 2 TD spread would have kept pressure on tOSU and maintained momentum going into the half. Going for it on fourth down created a chance for tOSU to regain some momentum and have something to build on.

If it’s 17-3 at the half and then you do anything in the 1st drive of the 3rd quarter (and get a FG then) then you’ve effectively taken Pryor and the Buckeye offense out of their comfort zone and forced them to throw more and no rely on read option play. I think that would have turned out better for us.

by Laaaaazzz on Nov 13, 2010 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing about the field goal.

Though I sort of liked how agressive we were being on 4th down. It did display a certain level of confidence in the players, though it obviously didn’t work out for us.

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by dwf5095 on Nov 13, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with both of you

I really like the fact that they were aggressive and went for it on 4th down. Showed they were trying to do things differently and not play as conservatively as they have in the past against OSU.

But I do think you gotta take the points. It’s not like it was a 50 yarder. Wagner has been good all season and with that distance, you take the 3 and have a full 2 TD lead. I know OSU was forced to punt after that, but the defense got a lot of momentum going after that. They hadnt’ been able to stop PSU all day and then all of a sudden they stuff them on 4th and 1 and then hold them on the 1st drive of the 2nd half and it was a completely different ball game. I know OSU’s offense woke up in the 2nd half, but it was the defense that really turned it up and changed the game.

by GMac14 on Nov 13, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

And, it’s important to note that it was a long 4th and 1 (closer to 2 than 1 IMHO). I’m for that call if it’s 4th and inches or somesuch and a QB sneak is a viable threat.

Going for it on 4th down when you are already clearly in FG range is always a risky call. It’s actually a lot easier to make the call when you are at the opponent’s 35 or 40 because the downside is less. Also, even if we got the 1st down, there’s no guarantee that we’d have gotten a TD anyway – it could have easily ended up a FG try anyway and we took a risk for nothing (though running time off the clock would have been good, but I didn’t think tOSU would be able to drive down the field effectively at that point anyway).

by Laaaaazzz on Nov 13, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

And sorry, reply fail below….

by GMac14 on Nov 13, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. I think the 4th and 1 they went for right before that was in the “no man’s land” that you mentioned above. Too long of a field goal and not enough for a punt. And I think what made it worse was the fact they called a timeout right before they went for it. That allowed OSU to set up their defense and get themselves set for the 4th and 1. I know our O-line had been solid, but like you said, on a long 4th and 1, I still have to figure that OSU’s d-line was going to make a stop at some point. That call certainly didn’t cost PSU the game, but I think it shifted momentum a bit.

by GMac14 on Nov 13, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

Two Bad Decisions

PSU lost because of 2 bad decisions…going for the third 4th down when points were available is not JoePa football. You take the points available and then keep the other team from scoring. When they missed the 4th down, they gave a huge lift to the OSU defense. The 2nd decision was not changing the game time at half-time. You think OSU was going to just sit in their locker room and feel bad??? No, they were coming up with e defense agaist the short slant over the middle pass that PSU used so effectively in the 1st half. Thus, the two interceptions for TDs. We were NOT playing against Michigan or Northwestern, we were playing against a BCS top 10 team and they were going to find a way to defend against the 1st half offensive game plan. Kick the FG and take away the 2 INTs and the lucky catch in the end zone, and you have a real game. Don’t know if PSU would have won, but it sure would have been MUCH closer.

by JoPaRules on Nov 14, 2010 5:57 AM EST reply actions  

2nd half

It also appeared that they started to get more conservative coming out of the half. They stopped throwing on 1st down, even when Redd was the only RB available. What happened to the screens?

by SpacePirate on Nov 14, 2010 7:07 AM EST up reply actions  

F - that sucked

You know how we were talking about the season being less stressful and maybe more fun because of the lessened expectations? My parents were at our house yesterday for the game and my wife asked me about watching the game with them because I generally don’t like to watch big games with other people. I told her it wouldn’t be a big deal because I wasn’t expecting a great game.
Then the first half happened and my expectations went through the roof. I saw Iowa lose and started thinking that if we win out we could have a shot at the Big10 title depending on what happens with Wisc. Everything was awesome – I was even starting to write my apology letter to Millsners and McGloin in my head.
Then the second half happened. WTF? That sucked. The D-line stopped playing, the LBs stopped tackling, and the DBs were like speed bumps hoping to trip Saine and Herron. The O-line and RBs played ok, not as good as the first half, but still ok. But all of a sudden McGloin couldn’t read the coverage that changed and the WRs started dropping passes.
Who was it that mentioned in a post that PSU QBs since 1993 have thrown more TDs to OSU DBs than to our own WRs? Well, you hit the nail on the head. Tack 2 more up for the bad guys.

"People ask me why I've stayed here so long, and you know what, look around, look around," he said as the crowd roared. "Now that the celebration's over, let's go beat Ohio State!"
-Joe Paterno, 11/06/2010

by emccomb1 on Nov 14, 2010 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

That was me.

And it’s simply unreal how it continues to happen.

Since the 98 game (7 games) PSU qbs have thrown 6 interceptions for TDs and have had 2 qb fumbles returned for TDs in Columbus. That’s so against the odds it’s ridiculuous.

And to think the game is there again next year!

by J Breezy on Nov 14, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it against the odds though?

How many were McGloin and Morelli? Mills? I don’t think it’s a matter of luck, odds, or anything other than poor QB play against top flight DBs.

'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno

by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 15, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Morelli and McGloin had 4 of those picks.

It’s still against the odds. How many pick sixes does a team get a year? Is OSU also getting pick sixes against all the other poor qbs they play against every time they play that team at home? I highly doubt it.

by J Breezy on Nov 15, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

IMO

The swing of momentum in the 2nd half was a whole team failure. It was every facet of our team not making plays. It was Smith dropping the perfect pass on 3rd down. It was Bani whiffing on every single play run in his direction for a 96 straight yards. It was McGloin making bad reads. It was special teams not getting us out passed the 20.

Our team is haning by a thread in most games. We don’t have the depth on defense to rotate on long drives. We don’t have enough experience at QB to run a diverse offense. We don’t have enough leadership to overcome an injury to a key guy like Mauti or Green (our two biggest leaders IMO).

The play calling got conservative b/c we had terrible field position. And when we did dial in a pass play, it was dropped or intercepted for a TD. On the other side of the ball, w/out Mauti they Buckeyes just preyed on Bani. He can’t get off blocks, can’t change direction quickly, and can’t wrap up and tackle. He’s a great guy but it’s hard to justify him getting so much playing time if we weren’t depleted by injury.

Next the Buckeyes got all the breaks in the 2nd half, on top of being a better football team than us. The miracle TD on 2nd and 28 that should have fell to the ground. The incredible athleticism of the OSU CB who tipped the pass to himself and ran it in. They got all the big breaks that keep the momentum going, and they played very well.

Finally, I’m still on team McGloin. He looked amazing in the 1st half and he fell apart with the rest of the team in the 2nd. Just remember, he threw 2 more TD’s in the Shoe then any other PSU QB in Paterno’s history. For 1 half he was incredible, and if Smith catches that pass and we get a scoring drive in the 3rd, maybe we don’t fall apart.

McGloin Despite Them

Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010

by millzners on Nov 14, 2010 8:36 AM EST reply actions  

For the reasons you listed above,

I’m starting to lean towards Team McGloin too. But we’ll see.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 14, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I still blame McGloin

But of course give him huge props for a ‘balls of anthracite’ 1st half performance. He put us in a favorable position.

Bottom line is the D got rolled for a convincing TD drive. What does the team need? A halfway decent drive. Interception for TD is the worst possible answer in this scenario. That was the key play in the game. OSU went from 18 wheeler of momentum to runaway freight train of momentum on the pick 6 (which was not just a bad decision, but also badly thrown).

That’s the breaks of being a QB. You get credit for everything, you take the blame for everything. Yes, Bani was terrible and Smith dropped the pass. But McGloin also made the OL block better, the defense play better, and Royster play better. Or so it’s said . . . .

by gcdyersb on Nov 15, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I love you Sad Panda

www.charliebaumandeservedit.com

by devidee33 on Nov 14, 2010 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

I prefer to think of that as his Concentrating Face.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 14, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

He's running every minute detail of his

coming trip to the pawn shop through his head. How many guns? How much ammo? They haven’t heard the last of me.

"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway

by SubLime on Nov 14, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's how I look at it.....

WE played a terrible 2nd half….TP’s coming back for his Sr. year and we play at the Horseshoe and they have pounded us the last 2 years….it will be another year till I have to put up with the horsecrap of Tom Bradley texting TP year round(get over it TB, he’s not coming to PSU) and to be perfectly honest, texting to an opponent prior to a game IS horsecrap…..and I’m a pretty resilient man, but I hope this team is more than I am or it’s 6-6 ugly.

"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.

by DerryPharmer on Nov 14, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

LOOK AT HIM CRYING ON THE SIDELINE! I think I’m gonna go call him McCryer from now on, and make t-shirts about it.

/using PSU fan logic

by neyvit on Nov 14, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Go ahead, if you really want to.

Honestly, not everyone really cares about Pryor. I certainly don’t. I’m sorry you’ve gotten the impression that every Penn State fan thinks a certain way, but it just isn’t true.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Nov 14, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

by all means go ahead

or you could do something original. We’re all big boys (and girls) and can handle the mocking, especially ironically deserved mocking.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 14, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

you should probably

find a picture of him crying on the sideline first

by swiggy04 on Nov 14, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats about as possible..

..as finding a picture of Pryor crying on the sideline.

by neyvit on Nov 14, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Arrogant in wins. Smug in losses. Always insecure. The Ohio State University.

by MainLion on Nov 15, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

The one of pryor is on here a lot.

I’ve seen it often. Someone even photoshopped it onto the heisman. Pretty funny stuff. Havent seen one of McG yet though. Love to see it when you find it.

by swiggy04 on Nov 15, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I've seen it often also

That’s the PSU fan’s go-to defense for their insecurity issues. Using brilliant deduction, they assume someone sitting on the bench with his hands on his helmet == balls-out sobbing.

@MainLion, what does this have to do with being “insecure” for OSU fans? It was a joke. Relax. We aren’t the ones who rest our entire self-worth on their perfomance of an opposing QB (Pryor). I think that would more appropriately be labeled as insecurity.

by neyvit on Nov 15, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

head up

helmet off so you can see his face

no tears

400. That is all.

by letsgopsu on Nov 16, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

2nd Half

I am interested to see howmany times we threw on first down in the 2nd Half. I feel like we got in every 3rd and long situation possible when we weren’t in the first half. I think we changed our gameplan more than OSU. It is the way we usually play big games…tight to the vest…we just reversed the halves. Its too bad…we fought hard and can’t really lay much blame on the team. We knew we needed perfection and luck, and we only got it for a half. Finish strong

Believe deep down in your heart that you are destined to do great things

by farrellpsu on Nov 14, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

They ride their defense to victory time and time again no matter who plays QB for them

We lost this game for the same big reason we almost always have…OSU puts a top defense on the field every single year. The signs were there late in the first half when we were in the last 4th and 1 situation. You could tell that their defense was beginning to put the locks on. They stuffed the 4th and one and in the second half they totally stuffed the run, sat on top of our receivers, and forced us to make mistakes…which is how they play all the time. Just look at the Wisconsin game. What happeded there? For the once in a blue moon moment, OSU could not stop Wisc from running, running, running at the end of the game…and thus they lost. It really does not matter who is playing QB for OSU…in 90+% of their games, their defense takes control of the game, creating poor field position for the opposition and usually creating turnovers. A very interesting stat was that OSU has never came back from more than 11 points down under Tressel…what does that tell you about their offense. If we (PSU) are ever going to compete with them in the future, we have to figure out a way to establish the run which always opens up the passing game….oh, wait , we did that for one half yesterday…and it worked. Now, how do we do that for 4 quarters?

by PSUfanJlager3 on Nov 14, 2010 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

That was so disappointing

I was watching the game at a family party in connecticut, and as soon as the game was over, my immediate reaction was that that game was probably one of the most disappointing losses I can remember in 28 years of Penn State fandom. Up there with Michigan ‘05, in that it was a game we had no business losing (or at least keeping it close enough to win at the end). It was a game where OSU had 21 points on nonsense that never should have happened. Take that away its 17-14. Just 2 TDs that are completely avoidable and one that was just the football gods laughing at us. That was such a winnable game, the upset game that we’ve been looking for for years, and then the second half happens.

Also, I know OSU has better talent then us right now, but I honestly didnt see a team that was far superior to us. We played just as well, if not better than them for half the game and maybe thats why this one stings as well. The outcome is probably different if the game is in happy valley, as the crowd helped effectuate that momentum shift and the first pick 6 sealed the deal. But its a game we expected to lose and kudos to OSU for finding a way to win it.

BTW, i remember some OSU fan telling me Dane Sanzenbacher is the best WR at OSU since Ted Ginn. I wonder if he still feels that way, cause Sanzenbacher is really only good at one thing, standing in the right place at the right time.

by swiggy04 on Nov 14, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

Sazenbacher

is a reliable receiver. I don’t think he even gotten the ball thrown to him last night.

If he’s in the right place at the right time all game long, I’ll be ok with that.

by edro on Nov 14, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

reliable maybe, but best since ted ginn, never. If not for that absurdly lucky TD catch, he was pretty much shut down all night. Maybe I just dont see what the hype is about cause im not an OSU fan, but he seemed pretty pedestrian to me.

by swiggy04 on Nov 15, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Play calling

As has become the routine at PSU in the Galen Hall era, the play calling becomes repetitive and predictable! Being outcoached in the 2nd half is more and more routine by good teams against PSU.
When do we win 2nd halves against good teams…could this be a difference maker?

by adf3415 on Nov 15, 2010 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

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