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Michigan Bloggers Hail the Victors and Heap Praise Upon Matt McGloin

More than 48 hours after coming up just short in a hard-fought contest in Happy Valley Saturday night, Michigan bloggers can't stop singing the praises of first-time starting quarterback, Matthew McGloin.  In an impressive display of solidarity and class, the kudos continue to rain down.  In addition to McGloin, the Wolverine blogosphere seemed to note nearly every contributing aspect of the Penn State victory: JoePa, JayPa, the defensive tackle play, and even the overall team discipline their opponents displayed in holding down the victory in this last scheduled meeting between the two historic programs.

Star-divide

After going on and on about the composure and poise McGloin displayed in his first career start, mgoblog was effusive about his first-half performance:

That progress looked like enough to get Rodriguez through 2010 into a prove-it 2011 until some walk-on shredded Michigan for 28 first-half points.

After crediting the would-be green QB for his heads up scramble to extend the important first PSU scoring drive, they went on to describe the accuracy that produced zero turnovers, converted 10 of 16 3rd down conversions and contributed to a very Michigan-like 27 first downs:

When a true freshman whiffed on a PBU/possible pick-six on 3rd and 14, and the drive continued another 10 plays so that half the starters must rotate out, well, we're dipping into a lot of blue.

Maize n Brew, perhaps the most gracious of the Wolverine blogs, focused more on the coaching aspect of the contest.  They gave plenty of due credit to Jay Paterno for preparing McGloin to perform so admirably in a prime time Big Ten contest and noted the alarming lack of penalties or turnovers by his focused and prepared squad.  And they spent more than a few paragraphs congratulating Joe Paterno on his 399th win and for rallying his own young team back from a flat homecoming performance just weeks before. When lamenting that this may have been Michigan's last opportunity to compete against the college football icon, the room got a little dusty:

I've done that because I believe in my heart that he is a good man. He is a decent human being given a difficult task. When I look at the manner in which he has handled the kids in his program, meted discipline, and represented himself and the school despite challenging times, that belief has been confirmed. I've also done all these things because I believed that he was a decent football coach. Strike that, a great football coach and that we were lucky to have him.

That he was actually talking about Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez is unimportant; we know he meant JoePa.  Some of the players also dipped into the praisefest.  David Molk, Michigan's outstanding center, known more for being tough and gruff, had these kind words to say about Devon Still, his opponent across the line from him Saturday night.

Losing isn't good. Losing looks bad, and we don't deserve it. We've worked too hard, gone too far, and done too much, and this shouldn't be the outcome.

Lastly, the graciousness and sportsmanship of the Michigan fanbase came home to roost for me in the personal arena.  My good DC friend Mike F, one of three very close Michigan friends (no word yet from Rachel or Steve) dipped deep into his memory bag and recalled the congratulatory texts I sent him in 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, years of Darkness and Heartbreak for this Penn State fan, and felt obliged to return favor with this text from late Saturday night:

Sadly, it's not that you're that good, it's just that we're that bad.

Thanks, bud!  We Penn State fans are pretty sure we know what we have: a young and improving team, a great coach, and a lot of pride in our tradition, win or lose.  We are sad to see the end of this scheduled series.  Good luck to you, Michigan.  You've got a fine offense, an amazing young Quarterback and a proud tradition of your own.  We'll hope to meet again in a championship game sometime soon.

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That third quote just astounds me

He really handled himself with respect and honor? The guy who breaks NCAA regulations about practice time, chases off several upperclassmen, sells snake oil by the tanker load then dumps players when they lose their usefulness to him, throws his assistant coaches and players under the bus when he gets the chance, tries to recruit several players with questionable character, and basically trashes every bit of Michigan tradition he can just to put his mark on the program is really the guy you still want to back?

You know what? Michigan fans do deserve him. I hope he stays there forever.

Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.

by skarocksoi on Nov 2, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Totally agree

Michigan and Richrod deserve each other

by psuphysicist on Nov 2, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This,

is a masterpiece.

Dear team, thanks for accomplishing nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Nov 2, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

excellent work

"Imma gonna make a couple 'a meatballs"

by letsgopsu on Nov 2, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to try one.

In an attempt to instill humility into his own fanbase, This Week in Schadenfreude author Brian, from mgoblog, lampooned Michigan fans for melting down after a loss to a well-coached Penn State team:

Last Halloween Michigan imploded against a terrible Illinois team, sending Michigan fans into conniption fits and the team into the tailspin that saw them miss a bowl for the second consecutive year. This year the same thing happened against a terrible Penn State team, and though it was closer Michigan was also playing a walk-on making his first start.

Dear team, thanks for accomplishing nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Nov 2, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree that it was closer than their game with Illinois last year

in the sense that 1000 miles is closer than 2000, but in no way was this game close. Penn State had better stats across the board. At no point in the 2nd half was Michigan within one score with the ball. PSU was up 18 at the half and up by as many as 21. PSU won by 10 and almost accidentally won by 17. PSU punted twice the entire game and had no turnovers.

Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on

by ckmneon on Nov 2, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yet, with

10 minutes to go I was still nervous something bad was going to happen.

Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western

by rahpsu92 on Nov 2, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's experience talking.

I remember Minnesota 1999 and Michigan 2005. The game is never over until the clock reads all zeros.

"I’ll drink through the weirdness." - Illegal Formation

by leeharvey418 on Nov 2, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be fair now

That was done with like 30 seconds remaining.

"I’ll drink through the weirdness." - Illegal Formation

by leeharvey418 on Nov 2, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

2007 Michigan State

I’m still recovering from that one.

@jschnauzer
Bloggin' at http://joepasdoghouse.com

by Cairo on Nov 2, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's nice to see that

my observations were just the tip of the iceberg a few bad apples.

Bacon is almost as great as being a Penn Stater

by NittanyTide on Nov 2, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Another Molk quote:

“It’s just the mental aspect, we need to improve our technique, we need to improve our reading skills.

Dear team, thanks for accomplishing nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Nov 2, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that was pretty funny.........

2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 2, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I failed to read which of our fine BSD authors posted this..

…and at first I’m asking myself which blogs is this guy reading. Sometimes I’m a little slow on the uptake, afterall, I don’t have that SEC speed.

Nice work jtothep, WE ARE……..TERRIBLE, if you don’t believe me just ask the experts from Ann Arbor. May they rot in years of misery and many consecutive years of 1-7 Big Ten seasons.

by Frank O'Brien on Nov 2, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

at least they can still chant

WE OWN…..INDIANA

The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.

by jman07 on Nov 2, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder why these blogs quoted would be so slanted towards the Michigan outlook of that game. Oh, that’s right, because they’re Michigan blogs, writing about Michigan football. Weird, huh.

You need an explicit congrats from a Michigan fan? Here you go: congratulations. You won and you deserved to win. You’re bad team is better than our bad team. Happy?

by echoWhiskey on Nov 2, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m just happy that you’ve grasped the concept of the post.

Dear team, thanks for accomplishing nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Nov 2, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fist time here. Please, enlighten me.

by echoWhiskey on Nov 2, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

This isn't an enlightening response, so you can choose to ignore it

but I can’t pass up this opportunity due an to inadvertant typo:

TWSS

Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.

by skarocksoi on Nov 2, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Missed that,

nice.

Dear team, thanks for accomplishing nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Nov 2, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s mocking the self-centeredness of Michigan fans. You put up a comment criticizing the post. Your comment is Michigan centric.

Dear team, thanks for accomplishing nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Nov 2, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t it being a fan of a team self-centered by definition? I’m a Michigan fan, you’re a Penn State fan. You care about your team and your players and I, mine. PSU blogs break down their teams and Michigan blogs break down theirs.

Getting past your generalizations of all fans, I think the crux of the dispute is that Michigan blogs argued that poor Michigan defense rather than exceptional offense by PSU led to a loss. Given the season output of both units, I’d have to agree. That’s not self-centered; it’s just an opinion.

BTW, I wasn’t cruising the Penn State blogs to post about Michigan. You’re post and it’s tongue-in-cheek title are listed high on the Michigan team page at SB Nation: http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/teams/michigan-wolverines

by echoWhiskey on Nov 2, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct in many of your assertions

But there are tactful ways to say ‘our defense sucks’ without having to crucify your opponent. For example, you could say ‘Our Defense sucks. I would like to shoot Gerg out of a cannon.’ You don’t have to add in, oh and by the way the offense was led by some no-name third string (that played an exceptional game) and PSU is really, really bad at offense. So we suck, but Penn State sucks too. You may have won, PSU, but you still suck.

It’s backhanded and arrogant.

And unfortunately, obnoxious arrogant assh*le is the stereotype of the Michigan fanbase.

by psuphysicist on Nov 2, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

fixed it for you

And unfortunately, obnoxious arrogant assh*le is the stereotype of the Michigan fanbase.

The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.

by jman07 on Nov 2, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry...couldnt contain myself

The Theory of Evolution states that only the strong survive. Maybe so, maybe so. But the Theory of Competition states that, just because they're the strong, doesn't mean they can't get their asses kicked.

by jman07 on Nov 2, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem

If we’re going to preach class, we should act class.

by BSD on Nov 2, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: walkons

if your backup walk-on QB who just made his first start ever continues making performances against actual defense like the one he made against Michigan, I’m sure every Michigan fan and his mother will come back and say that he isn’t who we thought he was. But before the game, could you blame any subjective OR objective observer from coming to the same conclusion? Walk-on? Probably not that good. Third string? Really probably not that good. Behind a true freshman? Really really probably not that good. Seems logical to me. I get the feeling PSU fans would have been saying something similar had walk-on Nick Sheridan somehow led Michigan to a victory in 2008.

by georgiablue on Nov 5, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I personally will admit to being totally Penn State centric. But most others here aren’t, especially the contributors. They’re able to put a loss or a particular performance in a larger context.

Michigan fans don’t seem to be able to do that. It’s always something like, “Michigan has x problem. If Michigan fixed the problem, they’d win the game/league/MNC/conquer Canada, because, fundamentally, Michigan is superior.” Is that a generalization? Yes. I’ll retract it when a Michigan fan I encounter exhibits behavior to the contrary.

We’re happy to have you stop by. I like a good debate.

Dear team, thanks for accomplishing nothing.

by Illegal Formation on Nov 2, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have only known one Michigan fan who was NOT a D-bag.

He was a Marine I was stationed with and in 2005, he told me that we should have won that game and that we were the better team on the field. He later couldn’t believe that we lost to them after Michigan lost to App. State. He was very gracious and showed good sportsmanship when his team won. Sadly, in 2007, his good-sportsmanship didn’t rub off on two jack-hole Michigan fans who rubbed it in my face for the next 2 months. I transferred before the ‘08 game so I couldn’t see their faces that year, but I still wouldn’t have trashed talked to them. That’s not the Penn State way. That’s the Michigan way. That’s why I hate them.

"If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" Vince Lombardi

by usn_kologi on Nov 2, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have proven yourself a

true Michigan Fan. Thanks for dropping by.

Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western

by rahpsu92 on Nov 2, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Adam
Black Shoe Diaries, SB Nation Pittsburgh
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Nov 2, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ironically you proved our point in a comment you wrote to prove our point wrong.

Just say “you were better than us on Saturday” and move along. Dont qualify it with adjectives, just say it. “Penn State was better than Michigan Saturday, and has been for at least the last 3 years.”

by swiggy04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAAAATE!!

Finally!!!

"That's why you don't play! 'Cuz you're no good!" -Joe Paterno

by pmm156 on Nov 2, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Really

The tenacity with which they cling to their illusion of superiority is remarkable.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Nov 2, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It will be fun

to see how things simmer during the two year hiatus.

The next time PSU faces Michigan…

Will JoePa still be coaching?

Will Michigan still be on the schnide?

Will Michigan fans still think RichRod is their man?

Lots to stew over, but I’m still counting on a few years of Michigan pain to rightsize their egos.

Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western

by rahpsu92 on Nov 2, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess

They finally see us as ‘rivals’ but we will see more competitive games against IU. Thats my hope anyways

by psuphysicist on Nov 2, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

that will probably never happen

They won’t ever say we’re rivals. It just wont happen.

Everything looks more important when written in gray italics.

by skarocksoi on Nov 2, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

They could lose to us for 20 straight years and still look down their smug noses at PSU.

by psuphysicist on Nov 2, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michigan fan here

I would argue that the reason most Michigan fans don’t really consider Penn State a “rival” has more to do with the lack of history in the series than arrogance. Historically, Michigan and Penn State have played a total of 16 games dating back to 1993. That isn’t much when compared to our series with OSU (106 games since 1897), MSU (102 games since 1898), and ND (38 games since 1887).

I think most of us who cheer for Michigan have a lot of respect for Penn State. You guys have an excellent football program, and you’re one of the teams that we really look forward to playing when you’re on our schedule. The reason we don’t put the Penn State game in the same category as the OSU, MSU, and ND games is because we grew up learning about the history of those rivalries and we learned to hate those teams. Most of us are actually older than our series with Penn State and we didn’t really grow up hating Penn State.

That’s my two cents on our series. Congratulations on your victory last week. You guys completely outplayed us, and you deserved to win. Good luck with the rest of your season. I’m hoping that the next time we play each other it’ll be a battle between two top tier football teams.

by big shot on Nov 5, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m interested in this as well, I liked playing Michigan annually (especially these past three years)

"Personal Attack"- R. Aceto

by Bob Sacamano on Nov 2, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

they'll never realize

even with all these humbling losses how conceded they are as a fanbase. Great post, I’ll give it a Rec.

by tlrpsu on Nov 2, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Humbling?

I’m pretty sure Michigan fans don’t have a grasp of that emotion

by psuphysicist on Nov 2, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why should they?

They are the leaders and the best. Except for football. They suck at football. Well not Denard Robinson, he’s good.

I've posted an open thread for calling me an ass-hole. Please post it there.

by jesse. on Nov 2, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recall recently reading somewhere

in blogistan, most likely a Michigan blog, that PSU fans would be sympathetic to Michigan’s recent downward spiral – what with our early millenium pains, rather than reveling in their misery. This is the exact type of behavior I had in mind thinking the writer was oblivious.

Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western

by rahpsu92 on Nov 2, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why did they even think they were better?

If they played our schedule, do they honestly think they would have had a better record and beaten one of Alabama, Iowa or Illinois? Do they really think a win over ND is more impressive than a win over Temple? What a Michigan fan will never be able to grasp is that….looking back the best team PSU has beaten this year is not Michigan……it’s Temple.

by JRM397 on Nov 2, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Regarding Illinois

There are quite a few Michigan fans that still dismiss Illinois — something along the lines of “I can’t believe we just lost to a team that lost by 20 points to ILLINOIS!”. Can’t wait to see the reaction after they lose that game, too.

by lmrlion on Nov 2, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Illinois will win out

And no game will be within 20, with the possible exception of jNW, who always plays Illinois tough.

Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on

by ckmneon on Nov 2, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pure arrogance of some Michigan fans is astounding, WTF are they thinking when writing this crap?

We all know PSU is young and a year/two away from being top 10. At this rate, UM is now Purdue with a worse D.

Hire Mike Pettine Jr!!!!!!!!

by SweepTheLeg on Nov 2, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on, STL.

How could you put UM at the same level as Purdue? They’re down to their 3rd string quarterback, and we all know that a 3rd-stringer under center could never beat a team like Michigan.

by psuwxman on Nov 2, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

alabama's third stringer would start for michigan over denard

and not only doesnt their third stringer have shoelace, he doesnt have soles on his shoes… or feet.

by swiggy04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of Denard at DB

cant Michigan make him a two way player. They could certainly use the help.

(*Note: before people tell me of a specific and logical reason why this would never work, note that i am being sarcastic in a sense that i am not suggesting this realistically, yet at the same time am intrigued because they guy could probably be 95% of their defense as well)

by swiggy04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think with

a full chem lab on the sideline, Michigan could gas the kid up with enough stimulants to get the job done.

All right Denard, I know you just ran the ball 10 plays in a row – but we really need you on D. Don’t let the team down.

Oh, we got both kinds. We got country AND western

by rahpsu92 on Nov 2, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Robinson can't

finish a full game at QB against a quality team. Put him on defense and he wouldn’t make it out of the first series…that is if he bothers to tackle.

Joe
@QBsneak12

by QBsneak12 on Nov 2, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is Denard coached by GERG?

This is important in figuring out if he’d try to tackle or not.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 3, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So glad that

at least you got the humor I was going for lol.

by psuwxman on Nov 2, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never realized just how "better then anyone else" Michigan fans were until last Sat.

Waiting for the train after the Iowa-Mich. St. game I chatted with an older couple who were Michigan State fans. They were gracious in defeat and we were gracious in victory, having just beat Sparty like a rented mule. Somehow the discussion drifted to Dick-Rod and the Wolverines. The Spartan couple indicated that the inhabitants of Ann Arbor believe they are superior to everything and everyone in every way, apparently the air is quite rarefied in Ann Arbor. We mutually agreed that few things are as pleasing as seeing the Michigan Wolverines lose.

So from the Sparty couple and a Hawk fan, good job McPenn State.

P.S. Do Iowa a favor and take down Sparty in a few weeks.

by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Nov 2, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Michigan is a strange state

It’s really 3 different states that happen to be bound by the same political boundary. There’s south of Lansing, which is basically Manhattan-level arrogance in a flat version of central PA. Then there’s north of Lansing, which is like a colder version of West Virginia. Then there’s the UP, which is Canada in every way except legally. Lansing itself is a mashup of them all.

Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on

by ckmneon on Nov 2, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you a UPer?

Can you feel a little love? Dream on; dream on

by ckmneon on Nov 2, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yessir.

It’s mostly UM fans up here, but there’s a good deal of MSU and Wiscy, too. But I’m coming back for jNW this weekend.

Oh, and to visit the ladyfriend. But mostly for jNW, let’s be real. ;)

by psuwxman on Nov 2, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still up there, I see

How long has it been? And how cold does it really get in winter??

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 2, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

About 51 weeks.

My one-year mark is the 12th.

It gets cold. Like, average high of 19 in the beginning of January and 13.5 feet of snow last winter (where I live)… and it was a dry winter, by our standards.

by psuwxman on Nov 3, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I've found to be really funny -

Having lived here for a few months now, I see at least as many people advertising affiliation with MSU as with UM. …and I live 20 minutes from The Whore, and almost an hour from East Lansing. There are a few pretentious D-bags, but by and large, it’s actually one of the nicer (nice in the sense of peoples’ attitudes) places I’ve ever lived.

"I’ll drink through the weirdness." - Illegal Formation

by leeharvey418 on Nov 2, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's because I'm a BSDiva

But I really hate that crude reference to Ann Arbor. So unnecessary.

by lmrlion on Nov 2, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cheerfully withdrawn.

Now if we just had a comment editing feature…

"I’ll drink through the weirdness." - Illegal Formation

by leeharvey418 on Nov 2, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stay away from BHGP's then...

nothing but gratuitous potty mouth over there.

TMFS baby!

by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Nov 2, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's part of BHGP's charm

in a strange way. I’m a bit concerned about that website. I haven’t seen any MS Paint GO IOWA AWESOME type things in a long time. It’s like the Pants is maturing, and in no way do I want that to happen.

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Nov 3, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um...about that

Not Safe For Mature People

"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 4, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

When we first met Alabama fans this year

I thought to myself that their fanbase reminded me an awful lot of Michigan’s. Both fanbases firmly believe their players are better than yours no matter what. If they dont win, its never because you beat them, but because they just made too many mistakes. Their players cant be stopped, if they do its because they were hurt, not because you stopped them.

After this past weekend i realized something. They may have the same arrogant ideas about their program, but at least Alabama’s program is good right now. It makes their fans look a lot less crazy than Michigan fans. Michigan fan is slowly turning into Notre Dame fan, and that’s scary.

by swiggy04 on Nov 2, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Alabama

My experience with Alabama fans has been a lot better. While they were confident that they would beat PSU game (and let’s be honest if the situation was reversed we would be extremely confident about that game as well), the ones I was around didn’t rub our noses in it and wished PSU good luck for the rest of the season.

Great comparison, I didn’t realize it until now but Michigan fans are definitely become ND fans. They think that they just need the right coach and they’ll just start reeling off NCs.

by JRM397 on Nov 2, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct

I should have mentioned the fact that they are FAR less abrasive in defeat (though I dont know how much of that is the fact that they dont care what we do once they beat us because we (a) arent in same conference and (b) dont play them every year.)

by swiggy04 on Nov 2, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alabama fans are just as bad, if not worse, than Michigan fans.

They just like us because we’re not in the SEC and we don’t play each other all the time (and they beat us). Trust me, I’m speaking from experience.

My mantra worked.

by Paige2PSU on Nov 2, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

My closest UM friend is a librarian, and she couldn’t be any nicer (even when we discuss football, which she loves), so it’s hard for me to label UM folk as arrogant, etc.

ND fans on the other hand….

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 2, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I posted this on a fanshot a few minutes ago, but

Bolden and McGloin are going to compete for the starting QB gig.
I don’t like it. Give it back to Bolden.

by emccomb1 on Nov 2, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

It's been a long time coming, friendo.

Hail! To the Jtot valiant!
Hail! To his naughty pictures!
Hail! Hail! to something something Jtot of DC!

"Iowa is like a flat Pennsylvania."
Beat Northwestern.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 2, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Michigan fans are just universally hated

From a PSU alum who is current at University of Illinois, I’m friends with lots and lots of Illinois students/fans, as well as fans of Iowa, Wisconsin, and Michigan State. Some of them hate each others’ teams (Wisconsin guy and Iowa guy hate each others’ teams), but EVERYONE hates Michigan. EVERYONE. And these are not jealous losers who hate Michigan being dominant every year. Michigan’s 2006 season was very good, but 2005 and 2007 were shaky (2007 was overall pretty good, but note the App State disaster).

Everyone else has a proper, self-deprecating view of their teams. The Wisconsin guy ridicules Wisconsin non-stop. The Iowa guy, while very confident entering this season, doesn’t rub his team’s success in anyone’s face. The Michigan State person is a little overconfident this year but in general understands the realities of MSU football. I also know a Michigan person and…well…I can’t even talk to her about football because she is just the perfect storm of ignorance and arrogance.

by Charlie Yordy on Nov 2, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Sarcastic Condescension

is the only response Michigan fans are capable of when discussing an opponent (except for their beloved Ohio State, of course). This is true whether they win or lose.

by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 2, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Muck Fichigan

"Life is no way to treat an animal"

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by Ko Ni on Nov 3, 2010 7:30 AM EDT reply actions  

wooohoooo...havent had one of these in a couple days

Ed Hardy bikini….i tried it and it sucked

/wonders if Oakey sunglasses are knockoffs of Oakley

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by jman07 on Nov 3, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just can't pass up the Armaini sunglasses

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by leeharvey418 on Nov 3, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys beat Michigan

Enjoy it. You had the better team, and your third string quarterback stepped up and did what he was coached to do. Trust me, we enjoy it when we beat PSU, because you’re a quality program, with a legendary coach, and you’re not overcompensating for feelings of insecurity (Cough, cough, MSU, cough).

However, anyone who suggests that Michigan fans are as bad as Notre Dame fans has never tended bar in Indiana. Give me OSU fans, Iowa fans, Miami fans, anyone.

by PatrickfromAnnArbor on Nov 5, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Your own team history

Why would you send a congratulatory text to a Michigan fan in 2003 and 2004? Do you not even know your own teams history?

by ThisNThat on Nov 5, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

What were you expecting?

Author of the the 2nd quote down (which you pulled from the 8th paragraph of a chart-a-ganza concerning our defensive back depth, not a post-game analysis) here.

I got a thing wrong: it was 3rd and 9.

But I think I got my analysis right, which is that Michigan’s bad cornerback play had more to do with the result of that play than Penn State’s quarterback play.

So it’s the first drive of the 2nd half, PSU’s on its own 25-yard-line and it’s 3rd and 9, and Penn State is up 28-10. If Michigan gets a 3-and-out the Wolverines will have pretty good field position, perhaps a chance to make it 28-17 early in the 3rd period, right? The pass is a hitch, and because it’s McGloin (not a rocket arm) and not Brett Favre (rocket arm) in there, the pass doesn’t have much zip on it. Michigan’s CB Talbott is in good position to break it up at the very least, and it looks for all the world like he’s going to pick it off. The ball goes through the freshman’s arms to reach the PSU receiver, who then runs for many yards because the cornerback was running toward the other end zone without the football. It’s a 40-yard play that results in the Lions at Michigan’s 35 yard line.

Let’s move on to the next play. This time I’ve got video. Penn State is running a slant and go, and the guy in coverage is a 3-star sophomore who Michigan spent most of 2009 strategically trying not to play. The coverage is 3-deep, and because of that call, the cornerback has excellent depth on the receiver. McGloin tosses the ball high in the air—I mean it’s got the hang time of a high punt or a Hail Mary, right? Now tell me at that moment, who’s the more likely to come down with the ball if both the receiver and the cornerback are doing adequate (by Big Ten standard) jobs? That’s a purely awful throw, but Penn State’s receiver almost makes a catch on it because or cornerback is face-palmingly far from the ball.

Would you want McGloin to throw either of those two balls against those coverages ever again? Those balls are both gift-wrapped interceptions. We know: we got a whole year of Nick Sheridan, and most of us have been watching the Detroit Lions for an epoch, and we know exactly what that stomach-churn is like when our quarterback throws either of those two passes.

But hey, the stat sheet for those two passes reads 1-2 for 20 YPA, so way to go Penn State walk-on quarterback guy. Forgive me if I forgot to praise him for those plays while talking about how my own team ended up with a defensive backfield that also make Kirk Cousins, Rick Stanzi, Ben Chappell, and some guy from UMass look like Heisman candidates.

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by Misopogon on Nov 5, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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