Penn State Defense Grades Against Indiana Hoosiers
If they haven't already, Penn State's starting defense needs to take Andrew Dailey and James Van Fleet to the Corner Room or Spats Cafe to thank them for saving what could have been an embarrassing loss (and first ever) to the Indiana Hoosiers in what was essentially a home game for Penn State (even though there were about 40,000 empty seats).
Tandon Doss was an absolute thorn in Tom Bradley's side on Saturday. The kid made plays on special teams, in the receiving game, and even in the run game. Without Doss, Indiana wouldn't have been in the game.
Defensive Line
The d-line was forced to play a few men down to start the game, and it showed. Ollie Ogbu and Devon Still missed the entire first half (violation of team rules) and Sean Stanley was also held out (Peeing). James Terry and Jordan Hill held down the fort until they were available. Pete Massaro continued his impressive play from his defensive end spot and Jack Crawford was on the field doing what Jack Crawford does.
With the exception of the 39 yard run by Doss, the d-line did an outstanding job stopping the run, partially because the Hoosiers are a throwing team and also because the d-line was able to get some pressure. Brandon Ware even took some time out from JoePa's dog house to get a few reps in (1 assisted tackle).
Overall, this unit played fairly decent. They were able to sack Chappell two times, and put consistent pressure on him for most of the afternoon.
Final Grade: B
Linebackers
Michael Mauti was missed on Saturday. Penn State had to play a lot of nickle to counter the Pistol Offense Indiana was running. Mauti is Penn State's most instinctive and aggressive LB, he also has the wheels to cover in space.
Gerald Hodges and Nathan Stupar got the starts, but Bani Gbadyu and Chris Colosanti had to play as well. Stupar led the team with 10 tackles, including one for a loss. Due to Indiana's offense, the linebackers weren't the focal point of the defense, that distinction went to the d-line and secondary.
Final Grade: C+
Secondary
Coming into the game, Brian Chappell was the Big Ten's leading passer. Chappell was averaging almost 270 yards a game. Penn State held up to 235, which is impressive considering Indiana did next to nothing on the ground, with the exception of Doss' 61 yards, the Hoosiers were held to just 29 yards on the ground.
Drew Astorino was able to come up with a huge INT in the 3rd quarter, and D'Anton Lynn was second on the team with 8 tackles. Chaz Powell is still a work in progress, and Stephon Morris played the role of invisible man.
Final Grade: B-
Special Teams
Watching Colin Wagner handle kickoffs on Saturday made me realize just how important Anthony Fera is to the Nittany Lions. Without Fera, Wagner's kickoffs were landing around the 5-10 yard line, giving Hoosier returners (Doss) the opportunity to rack up some yards and give Indiana some decent field position. If Fera were healthy and available, some of those kickoffs would have ended up in those empty endzone seating sections (hopefully), or at the very least, a touchback or two.
Wagner was 2-3 on the day, missing a 43 yarder, but nailed a 42 and 35. For the season he is hitting about 78% of his kicks (18-23). Wagner is much improved and reliable in the kicking game, especially from 40+.
Alex Butterworth made his emergency debut due to the Fera illiness. Butterworth averaged 41 yards a kick on two attempts, including one inside the 20. His 41 average is just shy of Fera's season average of 41.6, so we didn't miss a beat in the punting game.
The return game had it's moments, but it also had some head shakers. Devon Smith almost broke a punt (25 yards) to the house, but was tripped up. Chaz Powell is the most patient kick returner we have, and I don't mean that in a good way. It always seems like Powell is waiting for the Red Sea to part so he can have a huge lane to run into. That's not how it works. You need to run full speed ahead to make something happen, which brings us to Silas Redd...
Redd was in "I gotta make plays to make up for peeing outside of a building at 4am" mode. His first carry of the game got it starter, but it was his kick return that let everyone see he meant business. With Green and Powell struggling, Paterno inserted the future potential All-American to get something started, and Redd didn't disappointed. Redd took his only return for 34 yards. It would be nice to see Redd get more chances this year to return kicks, but I doubt we will see him back there next year.
Special Teams and game changing play of the day goes to Dailey and Van Fleet for the blocked punt (Dailey) and TD return (Van Fleet). The play couldn't have happened at a better moment. The game was tied 24-24 and the Hoosiers had the momentum. One bad snap later, and Penn State is up 7. Don't let the final score fool you, this game was closer than any Penn State fans would have ever wanted.
Final Grade: A-
Defensive Coaching
At this point, it is not so much as the defensive coaching as it is the personnel. The fundamentals haven't been with this team all season. It also doesn't help that your senior co-captain Ollie Ogbu and co-starer Devon Still were held out of action for the entire first half due for missing the bus. Tandon Doss proved troublesome all day for the Nittany Lions. When Penn State blitzed, they had some success, I just wish they would do it more often.
Next season, when some of the personnel changes (linebackers/d-line) I think this Penn State will look more like the Penn State defenses we have come to expect.
Final Grade: B
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Powell may be a work in progress,
but Doss is the best receiver he’s been matched up against this year, and the reality is, Doss is just plain good. (I think Powell/Doss was the matchup for most of the game, correct me if I’m wrong.) Chappell was picking on Powell. That’s somewhat of a indictment of Powell, but also a testament to the rest of the secondary, especially Lynn (I’ve got a full blown man crush on Danton). But Powell didn’t have to shut down Doss, he just had to contain him and make Indiana one dimensional. (Where was Belcher? 2 catches for 13 yards.) That’s BBDS. There was never any doubt in my mind.
I can't believe I only have 4 hours to tailgate. Somehow this is Lee Corso's fault.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 22, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions
I wish this team had 4 Redd's
a RB, a CB, a punt/kick returner, and someone to stand around in case something catches on fire.
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
I'm intrigued at the prospect of a bowl game against South Carolina
Marcus Lattimore v. Silas Redd in the freshman running back bowl.
@jschnauzer
Bloggin' at http://joepasdoghouse.com
That would mean
taking more of the 4/5 star recruit type of players instead of the hard working, diamond in the rough types. Not sure how everyone would feel about that. Butler > Stabby McShankerson, everyone > Logan El have become absolute truths here.
Just sayin’ . . . . sometimes these absurd athletes like Redd don’t exactly fly under the radar so we can mold them into stars from nothing.
Hey remember that one time...
…you used a complete non-sequitor to take a cheap shot at the coaching staff and the state of recruiting? Yeah, that was fun.
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
????
More of an argument against the “we will dominate with under the radar players” proponents. The original post was “we could use 4 Redds.” I agree, and that means pulling in more of the super athlete type guys.
Recruiting is what it is. I’m not going to complain about being a top 25 program most seasons. Just tired of folks acting like bringing in highly recruited players doesn’t matter. It does.
Redd was under the radar and considered a defensive prospect till he blew up during the season last year
PSU got in early on him and he stuck. He was a 3 star until the end of his senior year and “other” schools discovered him. Then his rating went to 4. When PSU was the only major chasing him he was a 3 star. That is how the star rating works.
eff it, I'm going derp
Devon would be an awesome PR
if he can just learn to keep his feet. It appears to me, that he runs with too much “lean”. Anytime somebody swipes at his feet he falls over. If he could just keep his feet, he would have 2 or 3 return TDs this year.
I was talking to a friend of mine a couple of weeks ago and we were talking about this. I made the comment that he looks like the Road Runner. Even when he’s falling to the ground, he keeps his feet churning. Pretty funny to watch on replay.
2010 PSU Football: You do not and will not understand it
Please allow me to set up the rest of this thread..
in order to continue the offensive grades thread….
JoePa is old
JayPa sucks
McGloin > Bolden
Bolden’s potential > McGloin’s potential
Paul Jones > McGloin > Bolden
Powell stinks
The Defense Stinks
Joe is conservative
Jay is liberal
NO POLITICS
what did I forget?
2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."
Zordich
would be some kind of hybrid Connor/Puz/Lee/Ham Linebacker.
2010 PSU Football: You do not and will not understand it
Oh right..thanks...
and Morris stinks
and the coolness of MRob’s swagger > the coolness of Mac’s swagger
2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."
by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 22, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
M-Rob's swagger should be enshrined
It inspired all who came into contact with it to fully realize their potential and caused haters to resort to mere apathy. I’m convinced that one day he looked Ethan Kilmer in the eyes and said “you can be amazing” and he immediately became amazing. He never once spoke to Austin Scott. He was almost moved to defense earlier in his career for some reason, and despite everything just moved forward with his iron will and destroyed all foes and doubters while quoting Frederick Douglas. Effortless excellence.
McGloin’s swagger reminds me of that one friend you have that always had a little trouble with the ladies. Then for one two month period, everything falls into place and he’s routinely landing 8’s and 9’s and no one’s really sure why. You’re kind of annoyed/jealous, kind of confused, but still you have to respect what he’s been able to do. You secretly want his run to stop and for order to be restored, where he starts hooking up with ugly girls and people laugh at him and he starts feeling sorry for himself.
by OctaShields on Nov 22, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
He probably started sexting people :o)
Also, Daryll Clark’s fist pump was contrived (said on other thread).
My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!
haha!
that is a great analogy. On paper, McGloin should not be playing this well…but don’t tell anyone else that.
2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."
by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 22, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
This is full of...
…PERSONAL ATTACK!!
"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."
-Tony Hunt
Why not Redd returning kicks?
It would be nice to see Redd get more chances this year to return kicks, but I doubt we will see him back there next year.
I’m curious as to why you think this. I don’t see any reason to keep him off the field, kick returns will be a great way to get him more touches and there is plenty of depth at tailback with guys like Dukes and Beachum coming back.
Because starting RBs
Get enough punishment with the 20 carries he should be recieving.
I think Alex Kenney and Stephfon will be handling the duties next year.
Joe
@QBsneak12
I don't think that will hold him back
Paterno’s been more than willing to use the starters returning kicks. Royster tried punt returns with no success. LJ and Curt Warner returned kicks when they were starting and they had many more carries in those offenses than Redd will ever get.
If he shows the ability, I believe he’ll get the opportunity.
by Frank O'Brien on Nov 22, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Was just about to bring up LJ
We always say that ST is a critical part of the game. Prove it. Play your best athlete.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Bah
Blair Thomas, Bobby Engram, and O.J. McDuffie all returned kicks. There was once a time when you put your best player back there. Now we just put the guy that’s best at catching the ball.
Awesome Terrelle Pryor description
on SBNation
Terrelle Pryor, who has emerged as a sort of Todd Boeckman on a souped-up Segway, and not as the second coming of Vince Young
I know, I know, FanPosts or FanShots. It’s a slow day. Why not?
Hey, we're always going off on tangents here.
Thanks for that pick-me-up. I was just thinking that I have that 2:30 feeling at 3:30, so this is like at least a 30 minute energy drink.
My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!
I enjoy any comparison that makes use of a Segway
I actually witnessed a lady try to break very quickly on a Segway last week and fly backwards onto the sidewalk. I know it probably makes me a terrible person, but I started laughing BEFORE I found out whether or not she was OK. I can’t help it, seeing someone fly off of a Segway is just amazing raw physical humor in its purest form.
Perfect description.
Uncanny.
"NOOOO!" - Lycurgus the Lawgiver
Beat Michigan State
by ReadingRambler on Nov 22, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
The Mad Englishman
It is frustrating watching Jack Crawford play DE, he just does not dominate like everybody thought he would. He can not disengage with the OTs. He is not a bad d-line player but just not what is needed with this defensive scheme. Any chance Bradley would move him to DT once Ogbu graduates. It is not like Terry, Hill or Ware are showing Steve Smear tendancies.
Just cut block him..
IU did it over and over and he never adjusted. Mind as well have 10 guys on the field because he gets taken out of the play immediately after the snap.
2010 PSU Football......"It can maybe snowball into something that can catch fire..."
by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 22, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Are you grading on a curve?
Not sure of what the rest of you thought, but I was at the game and thought that anything higher than a C- for the defense would have been way too generous. Too many huge plays they gave up. My friends couldn’t stop talking about how bad the defense sucked. One of them thought it was the worst defense he’s seen in recent years. Remember, this was INDIANA!
But on a brighter note...
Silas Redd is going to be REALLY good.
Silas Redd will break Evan Roysters all time rushing record and JoePa's last season will be 2011.
Prediction date 11/22/10
It is one of the worst defenses PSU has had in recent years
Its just not that bad and Indiana has a hell of an offense.
eff it, I'm going derp
elaborate please.
notable teams with a worse defense (based on points per game) than Penn State this year
Arkansas (I didn’t feel like typing out all 80 teams with worse defenses, so I just cherry picked some programs)
Texas
Auburn
USC
Oklahoma State
Michigan
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 23, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Not based on any stat...
just an overall subjective opinion from watching them play. Tons of missed tackles and many teams running all over us including Illinois and Indiana.
Silas Redd will break Evan Roysters all time rushing record and JoePa's last season will be 2011.
Prediction date 11/22/10
I mean this IS one of the worst PSU defenses that I can remember
but I’m also used to them finishing in the top 10 in scoring defense (to me, the best readily available metric). Coming in at 40th, and giving up just over 20 points per game is bad.
Still, Illinois has the 13th best rushing offense this year, and Indiana has the 13th best passing offense. Both of those teams excelled at doing those things to us, but we shouldn’t really be that ashamed, since they’ve been doing that to EVERYONE.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 23, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
I was comparing....
this defense to other Penn State defenses of the past. It’s not ONE of the worst in recent years. It’s THE WORST by a mile. Not even close. I hope it’s the injuries and youth. If so, then there is hope that next year will be a MUCH better unit. I think they also really need for someone to step up as a leader. Poz was the man in that capacity. The entire defense fed off him and raised their level of play because of him. His example was contagious.

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