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Fourth Quarter Open Thread

I'll try to get a recap up shortly after the game. The next open thread will go up at 3:30 PM.

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Stop needed.

'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno

by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 27, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

I hope Joe is saving those timeouts.

'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno

by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 27, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

now stop really needed

I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.

by psupride on Nov 27, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

Colasanti was in on two tackles there.

'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno

by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 27, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

I'M TRYING

'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno

by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 27, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

fg is okay

just no td

We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.

by mikeissurreal on Nov 27, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

This team just can't finish tackles.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 27, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

they cant get off blocks

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I need a screen cap of Tom Bradley

from a few seconds ago… that look describes the season.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

this sucks

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter

by xozte on Nov 27, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

Can we turn down a bid to the Gator Bowl?

How exactly is our tackling going to improve before then?

Or push from the d-line?

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

that'd be a no

this is a money thing…you know that.

by PSUWifey on Nov 27, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Need the practice.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 27, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh...

just not our year.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

With 6 men tackling, someone should be trying to strip the ball.

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 2:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I would settle for someone wrapping

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

With 6 men tackling, someone should be trying to strip the ball.able to take the running back down.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 27, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you ever been in a scrum like that? Everyone is battling in different directions to tackle. A good running back can just keep pumping.

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 2:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

maybe we can have a stop.

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter

by xozte on Nov 27, 2010 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

started 2 hours ago

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to go to a two year old's birthday party.

I don’t think I’m going to be drinking.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.

by mikeissurreal on Nov 27, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Mauti was in.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

It’s still not over.

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 2:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Bad defense.

We double cover one guy, let another guy run completely free. This defense is a joke this year. We are going to be in big trouble in the bowl game if they don’t figure things out. I saw projections of us playing Florida or South Carolina. It might not be pretty.

by HighFlyers on Nov 27, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

when will we ever play up to better teams...

we win the ones we are supposed to and lose the ones we are supposed to…

by psuz2004 on Nov 27, 2010 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

the next 2 years

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm rooting for Wisconsin next!

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 27, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Me, too.

Even though I hate Bulemia.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Another penalty

This is getting absurd

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Nov 27, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

not a chance

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Penalties.

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 2:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Fire Bradley !!!!!

Our secondary is horrible- cannot stop anyone. Enough is Enough

by psul on Nov 27, 2010 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

yes they were

they weren’t the only problem, but on MSU’s 4 TD drives they looked terrible

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

There you go.

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 2:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

What was that pass?

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 2:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah.

I guess we’re waiting for the bowl game to play 60 minutes of good football.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

don't count on it

I think we’re waiting for the bowl game to get an extra few weeks of practice, and a paycheck

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Undefensable?

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

YAY!!

A call went our way!

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you, Royster.

Way to go out in your last home game.

by smashtheguitar on Nov 27, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

TD!

Time for the onside

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Nov 27, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

god too bad we couldn't do this

the first 3q’s

We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.

by mikeissurreal on Nov 27, 2010 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

you can't blame paterno for wanting to come back

this team is going to be amazing in a few years.

We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.

by mikeissurreal on Nov 27, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

If they can get a killer OL

This offense has a great upside in the next few years.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

My senior day haiku

In like a lion,
Out like a buncha pansies.
Sad trombones abound.

by esteele on Nov 27, 2010 2:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

That's a TD.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

That was ugly.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

that is why you leave teh 2 point attempt until the last TD

I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.

by psupride on Nov 27, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Nope... now we know 2 TDs is the way to go

just wait for McGloin to flip the switch

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

if we get stopped next possession

we could have kicked the FG and still be in a one score game

I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.

by psupride on Nov 27, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

right, but then we still need the 2 pt conversion

which, if that play was any indication, we wouldn’t have made, and so then we’d still need 2 TDs, but we would have wasted time with that FG.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm sure you are probably right

seeing that the psu coach’s kicked the extra point and they know a lot mroe than i do. But I still think you just leave yourself the chance for one score to tie game at end

I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.

by psupride on Nov 27, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

the way I figure, if you KNOW you'll need a 2 point conversion

(assuming that if MSU scores again, the game is over, since it is so late), then might as well do it first chance possible, so that way you gain information on what to do next, especially when it determines whether a FG is worthwhile or worthless. We now have resolved a FG is worthless, whereas if we saved the 2 pt conversion until after a FG, and on the last possible TD of the game, then we only too late find out that we kicked a worthless FG.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

but why throw when they've been running all over us?

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Tackle

that is all

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

nope

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Is anybody inspired by the potential of next years fron 7?

because I’m not.

i hope our offense calls all 1994 on everybody.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

front*

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

engrish fail

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

If a couple of the OL kids develop, offense may be spectacular

But we need to fill some holes on the front four. I think the LB’s will be fine, but the down guys have to step up.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

This defense has not made many plays this year...

Cousins looked awful against Iowa….we needed to pick this guy today.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

switching to the uconn game

I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.

by psupride on Nov 27, 2010 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

We just can't stop em.

Congratulations, Sparty. You’re better than I thought.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

my thoughts exactly

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

At least we can give away the land grant trophy...

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

I'm still pulling for em.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

When I said this team is terrible,

I meant in terms of improvement. I didn’t expect them to be B10 champs. But I did expect some sign that these kids turned the corner. As of now, I feel like Denzel Washington is still driving the fail train in notch 8.

by MainLion on Nov 27, 2010 3:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

NO MOMENTUM

Defense on their heals all game _ FIRE BRADLEY

by psul on Nov 27, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

FUMBLE!!

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Decline that sucker

Let’s go Offense!

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

A score here may not be enough

but I love the fight I’m seeing.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, Adam

Not over yet!

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

HOLY MOYE

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

“McGloin’s going to stay in, get the win, be the miracle boy… it’s going to happen… you know it as well as me. They had NO reason to keep him in, which is exactly why he’s going to win it. McGloin despite them”

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

REVIEW

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

left toe is down

I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.

by psupride on Nov 27, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

OH PRETTY PLEASE

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Might be a TD!

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

We're not going to win,

but my goodness I love this team.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

If they rule it a TD,

we’re still in this.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

You all thought I wasn't serious

I actually was

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Left toe was in

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

I hate Mike Patrick

Whatever I am drunk ban me I know its a personal attack

by UPSUPhilly on Nov 27, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

That's not a personal attack,

just a true statement.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Easy TD

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 27, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

It was a TD.

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

TD

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 27, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

This

That was my only fear, and when they let it play all the way through, he does lose it at the end.

Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.

by IcersGuy on Nov 27, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheat.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 27, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

I may throw my phone into my TV. Where is my foam brick?

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Throw your remote control into the carpet.

Even if it breaks, it’s easily replaceable.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The remote cost 400 and the floor is hardwood. Doh!

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I do have a foam brick.

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

good keep that hatred up..

just another 10 months before the next football season.

by spartynation on Nov 27, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Score now. Score now. Score now.

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

We got the ball back!

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Holy shit!

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, Mike.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF!!!!!!!!

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

OH MY GOD

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

MOYE = POG

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Holy Shiite!

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

God Bless you, Moye

I don’t care – that play just made this entire game a win for me. Oh Sparty

Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.

by IcersGuy on Nov 27, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

inbelievable undefensable,

These announcers don’t know the English language.

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

Mark D is still a Douche

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Nov 27, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

that was before the TD...

we wouldve kicked on 4th down instead of throwing an int…(that turned into a FB haha)

by psuz2004 on Nov 27, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Derek "Give Me the Ball Back!" Moye

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 27, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

Craig James with a nice quote!

“Michigan State is going to challenge this”
James:“What, on decision making?”

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

That was funny.

Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z

by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

James was pretty pro-PSU today

Very balanced actually

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Giftopolus (sp?) would have just dropped in the end zone.

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Moye is repeating his Bama performance

taking it back after a pick

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

TD!!!!

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 27, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

TD MOYE!!!!

MARRY ME A MILLION TIMES OVER!!!

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

MOYE IS THE MAN

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

TD Moye!

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

nice try brackett

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 27, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Moye

building up draft stock a year early

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Nov 27, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Holy Shiite again!

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

yeah he was...

…on the end

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 27, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The McGloin hate has stopped?

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Hopefully?

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't hate him

but I’m still mad at his 4 almost interceptions, and 1 actual interception

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

But you love Boldens 7 picks?

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Just stop

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

obviously not

McGloin has thrown a much more dangerous ball than Bolden, but for some reason the DBs have not been able to hold onto them. Good for him, but still bad passes.

Bolden also threw some dumb passes, especially that one against Illinois where he went for the guy int he flat instead of the slot, but I don’t recall his passes on his INTs being quite as indefensible as McGloin’s (and McGloin’s almost INTs).

I am curious about who leads in interceptable balls (ie even if the defense doesn’t actually pick it, where they should have picked it).

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

that's basically my only argument against McGloin

I don’t see how he doesn’t have at least 10 more INTs that I can think of. Glad he doesn’t, but still surprised.

I’m sure there were balls Bolden threw that DBs dropped, but I don’t recall them offhand.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

One against Bama

that’s the only one I can remember… Bolden actually throws a good ball so people tend to catch his

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Except our reciever's don't tend to catch them.

He throw’s harder than they seem comfortable with. Hopefully a year more in the system and his touch will improved, but there were many dropped balls that were rifled in when they didn’t need to be.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Nov 27, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

no one here hates McGloin

people hate Bolden or those who support him, but no one hates McGloin

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

some do

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah you can't count that..

…that isn’t rational judgement

"They say in Happy Valley that if God wasn’t a Penn State fan, why is the sky blue and white?" Fortt said. "Who am I to argue with God?"

by amandakt on Nov 27, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He didn't play well

and you know it. It’s just a dishonest argument at this point. He had one good quarter against a prevent defense.

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Half of his incompletions were drops

and it was done against good competition

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he proved one thing

he doesn’t need a running game against a prevent defense

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

don't forget the drops by the DBs

which probably accounted for half of the drops

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He had one pick

which didnt hurt us and no fumbles

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

or sacks

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, there was absolutely no reason not to see Bolden today

McGloin had an awful 3 quarters. I don’t think we’ll see Bolden anymore

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

and 4 dropped balls by DBs

if you’re gonna use the “dropped balls” as a reason his completion % was low, you also have to use it for why his INTs were low. There were 4 very interceptable balls that were dropped, and 1 that was caught

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

his completion percentage is probably

better than you are giving him credit for

Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.

by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

worse than 50% in the first half 9/19

take out the 4th quarter and I bet it stayed that way

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably but he played

4 quarters and led an improbable comeback

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by JIMPSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

it wasn't improbable... in fact I called it.

BBDS defenses always lead to “comebacks”

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by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

23/43

so 53%

20 incomplete passes, 1/5 of which were near-interceptions. Not sure how many dropped balls by the receivers, though, but that leaves 16 more incompletions unaccounted for

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

We totally don't deserve this win

we sucked, McGloin sucked… but that was fun while it lasted

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

McGloin sucked?

give it up dude. The whole team put in a half hearted effort in the 1st

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably the best I've felt after a loss

in a long, long time.

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by DrewRusse on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

I’m glad we saw some fight in those guys.

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by OMEGAMAN on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

See y'all later!

My mojo is back! Beat Sparty!

by Paige2PSU on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

eh well

I am super super super excited for next year

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by amandakt on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for making it exciting, boys!

by Pentimental on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Joe Pa should have kicked the on sides kick!

Good game Lions

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by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Man... if the refs didn't screw up their first TD or the spot leading to their second one

that could’ve been a LOT different… or if we had played football for the first three quarters, that would’ve helped too

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by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

Dude he was in

His hand came down on the goalline before his knee hit.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 27, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that was a TD

ball just has to cross the plane, and it did.

Still should have overturned that first down before their 2nd TD, though

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that was a TD

ball just has to cross the plane, and it did.

Still should have overturned that first down before their 2nd TD, though

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if we got the spot on the first TD

They were 1 inch short. Now you don’t know if they would have gotten it or not, but I would guess it was better than 80% they knock it in.

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by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Bigger calls than those spots were

three personal fouls, roughing the passer (questionable, but he did hit him in the helmet), roughing the kicker (both on Still) and the out of bound hit by Morris (?)

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by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

roughing the passer was technically the correct call (though tickytack)

and he did also run into the kicker, so that was the right call. Morris also hit the guy like 2 feet out of bounds (though he did look like he was still fighting for yards, he was WAY out of bounds)

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I still maintain he roughed the kicker... that was really irresponsible

and the late hit was bad… he was still going forward… it’s like running after a fair catch

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by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he was arguing the calls.

I think he was just pointing out that they all came at horrible times.

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by mvrck on Nov 27, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

They were the correct calls

just bad execution by our guys. I am not saying they were bad calls

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by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, then agreed

the late hit out of bounds probably didn’t change too much, though. They were driving, and had a first down anyway (I htink)

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

15 yards there

iare 15 big yards that they didn’t have to work for.

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by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely

I just mean they weren’t as back breaking as continuing drives, like the other 2 penalties were

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Congratulations MSU...

You’ve won part of the Big 10 and now get to play in the Capitol One Bowl. Just another reason it sucks to be MSU.

by psu1313 on Nov 27, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

I'm gonna go ahead and rain on some parades

But that didn’t make me feel that good for next year.

by speedomike on Nov 27, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

No rain here, sir

That ending was fun for me. But I’m strange and my enjoyment of Penn State football isn’t contingent on if the team wins or loses. Sure, this team may not be uber-elite next season, but they’ll be good enough to entertain me for 13 weekends of the year. And that’s all I really ask for these days.

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by IcersGuy on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones comes back into the QB competition now too

so who knows who our QB is going to be… it’s probably McGloin

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by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

This is just silly

You’re better than this.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 27, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

What?

Either McGloin has it outright or it’s a 4-man competition

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by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

and if McGloin earns it in practice, he'll start

so really we’re in no different a situation, except that it is McGloin’s position to lose (ie if all 3 QBs perform about equally, then McGloin gets it by default)

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

And is that a problem?

Shouldn’t we be playing the QB that gives us the best chance to win? I want to see Bolden start, but I won’t complain if it’s Mac.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 27, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

no, it isn't a problem

but my comment was in response to your “I’m more than willing ot bet that McGloin isn’t the opening day starter”

If I were a betting man, I’d bet that he would be, being the incumbent QB

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw a lot of things from JoePa this year I didn't expect

Sooo I’m not going to assume that McGloin is automatically the starter next year.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 27, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying it is 100%

but whatever it is, I’d say his chances are higher than any of the other QBs.

The only real “firsts” from JoePa this year that I can think of are the true frosh starting QB and the walk-on starting at QB, so it is all basically the same argument. right now the walk-on has the call, and he will have to lose it first

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah man

You’ll see McGloin next year, trust me

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by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree...

it’s a long (tears a little) till September but I don’t think McGloin can win the job. But if he does, I am behind him.

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by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

When was the last tim we started a true Freshman in the opening game

I would bet never, oh wait a minute. Bolden started this season!

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by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough

but had Clark come back, I bet Clark woul’ve started

or Devlin if he was still here

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by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Uhh duh?

Clark was a very good QB

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 27, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

bingo...

and devlin was pretty even with him. It would have been great if Devlin had this year with these receivers. But that ship sailed a long time ago.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

So was Devlin,

but not better than Clark (in our coaches minds)

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
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by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

OK

Take a deep breath and let’s move on to Wiscy beating the Mildcats.

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi

by PaJoe on Nov 27, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm watching Minn/Iowa

I should be at the game, but I need to do some HW

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 27, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Who here thought that Bolden would win the job?

Technically Newsome and McGloin had more experience. Newsome way more than Mac.

That was about un-Paterno of a decision you’d ever see.

I wish you guys wouldn’t pretend like you can predict what the coaches will do.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

yes and no

it isn’t like Newsome or Mcgloin were upper classmen

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel good just for the fact that our major failings this game:

1) Linebacker play, which should be improved next year.
2) Kicking game. Which was a freak illness.

I feel very, very sorry for whichever SEC team is unfortunate enough to draw us for their bowl game this year.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Nov 27, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a bit tired of the Adam Shell Agenda...

Its really pretty bad that certain posters are bent on railing a kid who helped this team get bowl eligibility after it hit absolute rock bottom.

Enjoy the day of football people.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

maybe that was worded wrong..

but you’re going out of your way to find stats or plays that diminish his performance, when ultimately he wasn’t the sole reason for this loss.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said he was the sole reason

but MANY MANY people didn’t understand why he was in 2 drives into the 3rd quarter (when I started claiming that he should STAY in)

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

and if you think I'm an anti-Bolden fan you're dead wrong..

I want him to be the starting QB because I believe he has better upside. I believe that this year wasn’t meant to be for him and it was too much on an 18 yo kid with no spring.

Don’t discount what bolden will learn in bowl preparations and in spring practice. And yeah, Mac is a big part of the reason he gets those extra practices.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh... McGloin's going to get the first team snaps, so I don't know how much it's going to help Bolden

I think he’ll probably slip down to 3rd on the depth chart next year… the coaches just don’t seem to think he can do it

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If Bolden can't read a blitz..

then the coaches would be right.

Other than that, I don’t know what evidence you have that the coaches don’t believe in him. They’ve been riding a hot hand.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hot in what sense of the word?

after OSU? After a very anemic performance against a crap team in Indiana? After the worst first half we’ve had since Iowa?

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, I'm not saying Bolden should start, but I don't know why he didn't get a chance

it’s just that he DIDN’T… that speaks volumes

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

sometimes when you win it ain't pretty

why couldn’t the defense stop one guy on IU? It was clearly obvious they were going to Doss all day, but he had his way.

Could have been a 14-0 PSU win if you stop him.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like I could've thrown to Moye

and he would’ve run under and caught it

which would’ve been impressive as I would had a lame duck pass 6 yards down the field no doubt

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

and we saw McGloin play terrible on 3 straight posessions against jNW

but then had that one drive before halftime.

McGloin has had a longer leash than Bolden did, and maybe he deserves it, but it is definitely a longer leash. I just wonder why. Is Bolden that bad, or are they trying to protect him, or what?

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 27, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

And we saw McGloin get decked today... and he didn't get yanked

which is fine… but let’s not play these games… clearly the coaches don’t trust Bolden… so stop bringing it up… McGloin’s the guy for the next two years

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

FIne lets agree to disagree then

I just want my team to win without playing favorites.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds good :-)

as I proved today, I can cheer for McGloin when I know he’s the guy… and today proved that he’s the guy no matter what

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

McGloin looked about as good against a top 10 team as Bolden did..

except Mac put the ball in the end zone more times.

2010 PSU Football......YOU'RE ALL FIRED

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Michigan State isn't Alabama

and our offensive line actually played today (which they didn’t against Alabama)

but really, there’s no point… we might see Bolden in three years.

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Nov 27, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Bolden moved the ball between the 20's at Bama

i didn’t forget that. He looked very good that game but he looked very young as well.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 27, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

New Thread is Up

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2010/11/27/1838049/afternoon-games-open-thread

Do me a favor and keep the Bolden/McGloin bickering and arguing contained to this thread, ok?

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by IcersGuy on Nov 27, 2010 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

Triple coverage
But can’t stop staring at you.
Seems like a good throw.

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