Penn State Quarterbacks: Who You Got? Team McGloin Vs. Team Bolden

100% McGoing-to-win.

…how many screen names does Millzners have?

Boom, roasted.

it should be Bolden, and voted accordingly.

He’s an investment in our future, and we really shouldn’t make it all for naught and give up on RoBo AFTER he’s faced the 2 best defenses he’ll face all year. I really felt like he was turning a page at Minnesota. And say what you will about Minnesota, but Michigan’s defense is just as bad, and we have no reason to believe that Bolden would have put up similar numbers to McGloin.

I believe it’s said Onorato. Dan Onorato.

but i have no reason to believe that i couldnt have thrown for 200 yards against michigan. ive honestly seen high school teams play more cohesively on defense than they did. if what they were playing can actually be called defense. it was more like hinderance, just kind of get in the way of the offense and hope they trip over themselves

But Spak (&millz) had me going there for a second.

Then Fooge brought me back. Thanks, dude.

Throw leadership out. We can’t objectively discuss it. What’s left are the throws, and the ability to improvise.

1.
McGloin throws catchable balls, which allow his receivers to make a higher percentage of catches, which made a huge impact on Saturday. Those 3-step drop slants? Those quick passes over the middle? Bolden has a tendancy to cannon-arm those so hard you need to have NFL caliber receivers to catch them. Think back to Alabama and Iowa. think of all the dropped passes we saw, all the 3rd down completions we desperately needed bouncing off the hands of guys like Zug and Brown. Now think back to the Michigan game, and all the soft, catchable passes McGloin completed on 3rd and long. Suddenly Zug is a factor on 3rd down again, is he different now? No, he’s the same, the velocity on the balls is different.

Bolden has an NFL arm. He can already make rudamentary NFL throws, and in a few years he will make legitimate NFL throws. But he doesn’t have control of that arm yet, he doesn’t have the timing or the touch to complete the passes we most desperately need to complete.

2.
Improv. We all know for a fact that Bolden is given a play, and he runs the play. He doesn’t audible, and he hesitates on when and where to run. But when it comes to 3rd and 3 and the other team is reading run up the gut all the way, Bolden doesn’t have the authority yet to change the play and throw the slant to the receiver in man coverage. McGloin probably doesn’t have the authority either, but I trust him to do it anyway. On 3rd and long against nickle coverage, Bolden doesn’t know when to run, or how to read his blocks, and he runs hesitant right into the opposing team, where McGloin runs decisively to the exact right spot. That 1st down on the very 1st 3rd down of the drive? Bolden would not have made that play. That’s a 3 and out, Michign takes the ball down the field for a TD, and the game ends totally differently.

So take away the leadership, the fire, the intangibles, and you still have a QB I think is better suited to win games now. Next year, Bolden is the guy. But after this week? The offense believes in McGloin. The whole team believes in him. If it’s 3rd and long next week or the week following, I’d rather have McGloin out there.

but It sure seems to me that Joe has NW definitely guessing who to prepare for.

Bolden won the job preseason for, among other things:
- Composure
- Ability to learn, grasp and execute the offense

Hey, guess what? There are two good tapes for Bolden to have reviewed:
- his own poor running scramble that got him knocked out vs. Minny and;
- McGloin’s enthusiasm in relief vs. Minny & Mich

Obviously, Bolden’s not gonna change personalities, but he has demonstrated a very important skillset: the ability to learn.

However I’ll be perfectly content with whomever the coaches decide the best player for the job is.

I seriously thought I saw McGloin driving around the 717 yesterday in an Impala

McGloin:
I think you’d be guessing if you said that McGloin is a better leader or has better intangibles than Bolden, as each plays their own style of game and we don’t know what goes on in the huddle. That being said, McGloin definitely has more attitude, and while I dont think that “attitude” is a major factor for him to start, I will point out one thing. A lot of these upperclassmen have spent the past few years with another fiery QB in DC. Maybe they do play a little more relaxed since McGloin has a style similar to what they are used to.

I do think there is truth to McGloin having a greater knowledge of the playbook, which allows the coaches more options when he is out on the field as opposed to Bolden. However…

Bolden:

We know that Bolden’s somewhat limited in what he is able to do, simply because he is a freshman. He was thrown into the fire just a few months after arriving on campus and probably hasn’t had the time to fully digest the playbook. At least, until now, when we have Bolden on a bye week, and then games against Minnesota and Michigan, two teams with relatively simple defenses. With the extra week (now two because of McGloin starting) we saw a marked improvement in Bolden’s play while he was still in at Minnesota. Everything I’ve read about him says he is like a sponge when it comes to learning from his mistakes, so I have to think that the bye week was his big chance to play catch up on the playbook. I think the options available to him have probably expanded since he first took over the QB position.

it’s a sorta close call. McGloin outperformed Bolden’s averages against the worst secondary PSU has seen since last year’s Michigan game or will see until at least the Indiana game, for whatever that’s worth. As far as winning in the future, it’s not close. Bolden brings much more to the table.

But I’m with RR — I’m not doing this.

Look at Bolden’s technique and strength behind his throws, think about his potential, then look at McGloin’s technique and his potential. To me, there’s no question that Bolden is the man.

and start him. If we are going to have a controversy, then let’s make it a free-for-all.

Or whoever the coaches decide. I’m sure they know better than I do, but I have a soft spot in my heart for Bolden.

After reading the CDT this morning my wife asked me if they were serious about a QB competition. She couldn’t believe there was any question who should start – McGloin. He made watching the game fun again. My 9-year-old son said the same thing, “Dad, it’s fun to watch when he plays and I like staying the whole game.” Gotta agree…

These guys each bring something different to the team. Hopefully Bolden learned a little watching McGloin play the last couple of weeks. Screw the poise and go out and have fun, trust your instincts and don’t be so damn indecisive when you have to tuck it and run.

I want to have his red headed babies.

But Bolden should start. He would have done equally well against Michigan IMO

hate the term swagger when it’s being referred to football?

Let Brian Bosworth, Rey Mauluaga, and the ’86 Miami team have their swagger.

No one has mentioned the fact that Royster (and the offensive line), finally, had a good game. Although Michigan seemed to do better against the run in the second half, Royster’s aggressive play in the first half, and particularly in the first quarter took a tremendous amount of pressure off McGloin.

How would McGloin have done if he was being knocked around and more importantly put into constant 2nd and long and 3rd and long situations like Bolden regularly was in the earlier games? I imagine we wouldn’t be having this discussion if that were the case.

/There wolf.
//There castle.

The dragon’s been released…why trap it again?