I'm Officially Switching Positions: Recruiting Edition

In fact, I specifically put in the disclaimer (different debate).

I, too, am tired of discussing the unconfirmable as it relates to the coaching changes. But recruiting is mostly a known commodity (there will always be the Mike Shaw aspect). And our known commodity is getting worse and worse, relatively speaking.

If you don’t want to discuss Joe and what will happen and who will be next, that’s fine. I can understand that. But I wanted to discuss recruiting and the staffs efforts in general, not Joe specifically (and certainly with no particular emphasis on Joe’s health).

I’m afraid to google search what she looks like w/o make-up on.

Dammit curiosity, I did it anyway, behold the power of make-up:

It’s a matter of giving a rat’s butt in the first place, which I don’t. Could something be “wrong” with recruiting? Sure. I just doubt the degree to which that “wrong” matters. Look down the road. Dave Wannstedt recruited like a mother and he got fired. You know why? Because he can’t coach. Conversely, there are coaches who implement a system with crappy parts, see Mike Leach at Texas Tech, and have great success.

Penn State has always been much closer to the latter than the former, so I’m just going to have faith in the coaching staff’s ability to fit guys into the team system until it gives me a reason not to. You should try the life style. It offers a much less cluttered view of the Penn State galaxy.

It produced stars like Tony Hunt and Pos and solid contributers like kinlaw and terrell golden. It seemed to not stunt PSU from winning the Big 10 title in 05, or the orange bowl.

Or that garbage class of 08 which has produced Mauti, yancich, massaro, lynn, crawford..

Seems to me Penn State has a down recruiting class every three years or so. you can only worry about it when the time comes to worry. There is no way to know how the 2011 recruiting class will end up when you are still in 2010. You can speculate, you can work yourself up until you are light-headed with rage, but in 2 or 3 years it may seem like a waste of time. People may have reacted this way in ’03 and/or ’05 when we didnt have a top 25 class, then felt silly when those classes produced major contributors to the best PSU team in ten years. Guys like Hunt, Posluzsny, Kinlaw, Williams, Norwood, King, Sean Lee, Kevin Kelly.

I, personally, am waiting for more proof that 2011 produced nothing before i hang my hat on that assumption. or at least until 2011 is actually here.

Can’t afford another one of these next year. It’s a real concern.

maybe it’s posturing for another year of coaching, but I think these statements is more about trying to take the focus of Joe.

Sue’s no dummy. But I don’t discount the possibility that you’re right.

Sue and Joe have discussed it, without a doubt. What that conversation entailed, no one will ever know. But like RUTS said, she’s no dummy. This whole thing, staying OR leaving, is going to be a well calculated machine from the Paterno standpoint. Whether PSU can say the same is another story.

Do you think PSU can just hand out uniforms to random Sun Belt level recruits and coach them up to win the Big Ten? Because that’s what they’re going to get if Paterno hangs on through 2011.

And if multiple sources say John Doe is an average offensive lineman, and only Elon and Tuskegee are recruiting him, then maybe we shouldn’t be recruiting him. Granted, sometimes we find a diamond in the rough (DC17), but by and large our lists should look more like the Ohio State numbers above.

Instead of talking about the staff’s ability to recruit next year, there’s arguing about this year‘s class. And I still don’t see what there is to argue about there.

Now I can’t wait to go to Michigan this weekend and talk to the wife’s michigan fan friends. Some of them are even Indiana basketball fans!

I would really like another 3 consecutive victories over those fools with their home-state guys (Bolden, etc).

Three years ago we had the highest star average for a class of 15 and were ranked 50 something because they actually use the number of recruits to adjust for the ranking. So oversigning every year is going to get you a higher ranking than a team that takes what they need. Its bizzare and totally plays into the hands of the schools that actually pay for the ranking services and cheat on their signings. A class of 30 averaging 3.1 stars blows away a class of 15 averaging 3.7 stars even though you cannot sign 30 kids. Fine to rank the kids (though this is weird too, I could have had a national rank in baseball in ’78 had I joined a recruiting service) but ranking the actual classes per school is very shady.

I’d say he committed more to Randy Shannon than Miami. Obviously this class is pretty awful, and is going to be average at very best, but I personally don’t think we’re doomed next season if Joe is the head coach. I think the staff realized they blew it this year and have already gotten a head start on next years class.

…that we weren’t interested, mostly because PSU was more interested in ALJ. Oops.

As a Syracuse grad i could tell you the only reason Cuse is still on his list is because both his parents are Syracuse alums and he lived there when he was growing up. I also would not say we lost him until he actually signs elsewhere. Thats a little trick I learned from Kevin Jones.

however, the delete and backspace keys are used extensively.

must not be an elite engineer. i looked him up on scout and buk and SCtowney said he had weak offers and is lucky to posting on any blog.

RUTS is a giant tool but he’s also smarter and shrewder than I. Need you, big guy.