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At 0-10 in Big Ten, there aren't a whole lot of flowery ledes left to write.

The more games we lose, the more I think about beating Virginia in late November.  That win had all the Hallmarks of so many from last season's NIT Championship run that you wondered if this team had lost anything but the on-court contributions of Jamelle Cornley, Stanley Pringle, and Danny Morrissey.  Sure, Lions were destined to take a step back Win-Loss wise because those were talented players, not at all easy to replace.  But the tight win over Virginia, when it seemed like everyone played tough and smart down the stretch, made it appear as if this team had the mental toughness and fortitude to lead to a pretty decent season by Penn State standards.

What a mirage that night has turned out to be?  With every loss like this loss, it becomes more and more apparent that this team's biggest problem isn't the lack of an inside presence, or the inability to score from or defend the perimeter, it's a lack of guts.

The seniors that graduated last spring weren't particularly great basketball players.  But all three will be remembered fondly for stuff like this.



Particles of Danny's blood are still on that Madison Square Garden floor.  'Melle's shoulder will probably never be the same after last season.  And Stan the Man literally let it all hang out.

This team doesn't have that right now, and that's why you're seeing late leads blown, and big rallies squashed.  This team doesn't have the guts to finish a game off.

I'm not going to call out a player on rthis team specifically, because it's not fair.  Everyone is to blame when you're 0-10, and if for nothing else, perhaps, than simply not trying hard enough.  This team might be is the worst team in the Big Ten right now, but if this team has any character, and wants to give people any kind of reason to believe heading into 2011, they'll find a way to be the best team in the Big Ten for one night.

Star-divide

 Not a whole lot to say in the way of a recap.  The Lions fell behind the Buckeyes early, and pretty much hung at a 6-10 point deficit until the last two minutes of the game, when they pulled to within 65-62 with 1:53 to play.  But within a minute, Jon Diebler hit an uncontested three for Ohio State, and Chris Babb intentionally fouled David Lighty on the breakout of a Talor Battle turnover, and next thing you knew, Penn Stat was down 71-62.  When the clock ran out, Penn State still hadn't scored after drawing to within a possession in the final two minutes, and lost another game by double digits 75-62.

The Good

Ohio State made the plays they needed to when they needed to.  The Bucks cruised most of the game, holding a healthy lead over Penn State until a late push brought the Lions close late.  But the Bucks didn't let the pressure get to them, and  made plays while the Lions unraveled.  The Ohio State transition game was nearly flawless the entire evening, and they Buckeyes did a great job of making the extra pass and exposing the Penn State zone for a 35% shooting effort from the perimeter.  Sure, they were playing Penn State, but the Buckeyes looked well prepared, and well coached in this game, and they appear to be a solid pick for the Sweet 16 with Evan Turner, who torched Penn State for 27 points, active and healthy again.

Sasa Borovnjak saw some rare minutes this evening, and showed encouraging aggressiveness.  He's been riding a lot of pine lately, and while racking up more fouls than points is typically a bad thing, in Sasa's case it shows that he was playing loose, which is very, very good to see from a guy who's been playing his minutes.

Talor Battle found a way to put up points as usual.  Even with the team deteriorating around him, the guy still comes to play every night, and most of the time finds was to play well.  DJ Jackson is also achieving a level of consistency after scoring 12 tonight, and is undoubtedly PSU's second best player at this point.

The Bad

The Lions certainly weren't helped by injuries tonight.  Andrew Ott missed the whole game with a shoulder injury, and Bill Edwards went down tonight as well after a strong 10 point, 13 rebound performance at Purdue.  It's a shame too, because both players had been emerging as good storylines in a season full of bad ones.

No matter what zone look Penn State threw at Ohio State defensively, the Buckeyes picked it apart.  There were several points, most notably the Diebler three at the end, that it looked like the Lions didn't even know how to guard the perimeter out of a zone.  As bad as this team looks in rotating in the man-to-man at times, it looked worse tonight in the zone.

I've begun to notice that Penn State seems to struggle most offensively in the first ten minutes of a game.  It seems like they get way too cute with the ball when they feel like they're still in the game early.  They throw the ball around for 30 seconds like they're a good basketball team and eventually something will open up, but what they don't realize is that in looking for the perfect, or even just a good shot the entire shot clock, they're shooting themselves in the foot by the time the shot clock gets down to five.  I'm all for a responsible, paced offense that takes it's time, but there is absolutely no reason to throw the ball around the top for the key for 30 seconds for the heck of it, and that's what it feels like Penn State is doing far too often early in games.

The Ugly

The last two minutes could not have gone worse.  Down three to down 13 in the span of two minutes is nuts, and the sign of a team without a whole lot of mental toughness.  Perhaps you could say that you can't blame the players for being mentally fragile after the way this season has gone, but I don't think it's too much to ask to not completely fall apart late like the team did tonight, or against Wisconsin.

And now tonight's EDrawing of the game.  This inbound was drawn up in a timeout for Tim Frazier late in the first half...

The inbounds plays after time outs just seem to be getting worse and worse.  It seems like the goal now is simply to get the ball in and get some kind of shot off, and the Lions can't even seem to do that anymore. 

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I like calling him ED

For obvious reasons

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by PSUdevon on Feb 3, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think it has to do with guts

There may be other games this season where you can make that case, but I don’t see it from tonight’s game, especially when two starters were out (one for the game, one for the 2nd half.) Even with the full compliment of players, I don’t think most people would say that OSU and PSU are on the same level talent-wise, so playing without 40% of your lineup is a major loss, and they played well enough to get it to one possession in the last 2 minutes on the road.

I loved the play of the seniors last year, but they were blown out in Columbus last year, and none of those guys ever won at Ohio State, it’s not an easy place to play…so I don’t think this loss really has to do with guts. Good teams do what they are supposed to do win games, especially at home, and Ohio State is a good team. It’s easy to focus on the mistakes that PSU make because we are rooting for them, but there are two teams out there trying to win, and Ohio State made enough plays to do so. Sometimes it isn’t just what Penn State does wrong.

by mundyscorner99 on Feb 3, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

If anything, wouldn’t this game show that this team did have guts? 0-9 in the conference, down double digits in the 2nd half on the road, nothing to play for, and they fight back to cut the lead to 3. All this being down a two players against a team with more talent.

I don’t know whether this team has guts or not, but I do know that they have no inside presence and lack the ability to score from or defend the perimeter.

by speedomike on Feb 4, 2010 6:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously?

Dude, they completely choked. Forgot to cover Diebler from outside. Battle turns the ball over, and Chris Babb committs the dumbest foul of the year so far. I don’t care if they were losing. They choked under the pressure. The came completely unglued in those last 2 minutes and played them about as bad as you can.

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by Adam Bittner on Feb 4, 2010 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Well...

A. I didn’t even watch the end of the game so I really have nothing to stand on. But,

B. Saying things like “guts” or “character” are bigger problems than the lack of an inside game or the perimeter defense is ridiculous.

by speedomike on Feb 4, 2010 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

That's Debateable

What made ‘melle what he was? It certainly wasn’t his frame, and he’s not particularly skilled either. But the dude had a heart, and that’s something that I’d say most guys are missing out on that court right now.

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by Adam Bittner on Feb 4, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Not his frame?

That dude was strong as hell.

I just think going down the guts/character/grit road when looking at a team that isn’t performing well is never a good idea. You have absolutely no idea how much effort this team is giving. It reminds me of the people who thought we lost to Ohio State and Iowa in football because we had no heart. No, we had 4 new offensive lineman and they had outstanding d-lines.

We just aren’t very good this year.

by speedomike on Feb 4, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

3-7 is not very good

This team is 0-10.

This team has lost games to UNCW, Tulane, Temple, Virginia Tech, Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin and Ohio State late. A bad team with a little swagger makes a play, and finds a way to win ONE of those games. We fold like a cheap suit every blessed time because we’re like a deer in the headlights.

What Chris Babb did to lose that game last night had NOTHING to do with his skill level. It was an unbelieveably stupid foul. Unbelieveable.

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by Adam Bittner on Feb 4, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

It’s a smart idea to foul (make them shoot two instead of giving them an easy layup) and you almost never see them call the intentional foul. I don’t mind it, but make it look cleaner next time.

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by PSUdevon on Feb 4, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

No I don't mind the foul either

But it was clearly, CLEARLY an intentional foul. He made NO attempt at the ball. I can’t imagine what he was thinking when he literally tackled the guy. That put us from down 5-7 to down 9 within seconds.

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by Adam Bittner on Feb 4, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely

but remember, Turner made only one of the two free throws. If he fouls relatively cleanly, we’re down 4, not 7. I don’t consider that to be playing “stupid” just poor execution.

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by PSUdevon on Feb 4, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Chris Babb, the anti-Asante Samuel

Dude wrapped his arms around Turner. Unbelievably dumb in that regard, it’s an intentional foul every time.

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by Run Up The Score on Feb 4, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok then

This team sucks. Is that better? And 3-7 sucks too. They were getting worked over the whole game because Ohio State has more talent. You’re choosing one bad play by Babb to make your point? Maybe the team folds because they’re not talented enough to hang with the other team for 40 minutes. Or maybe the coaching sucks.

I don’t have a problem with you saying that guts or heart can be a factor. My issue is with you saying it’s the biggest factor.

by speedomike on Feb 4, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It wasn't just Babb

It was the lapse that led to the Diebler three. It was Battle’s turnover. All of that stuff.

This team is talented enough to beat all of the teams they lost to late in the second half, or they wouldn’t be in the position to beat them in the first place, and they haven’t beaten a single one except for Virginia.

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by Adam Bittner on Feb 4, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Two different things

Good enough to hang around and good enough to win are not the same. If this team was good enough to win, they would’ve won a few more.

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by Run Up The Score on Feb 4, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

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by Adam Bittner on Feb 4, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, God forbid we had a role player who excelled when called upon in a pressure situation.

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by Run Up The Score on Feb 4, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we're mistaking potential for talent.

Or something.

David Jackson, Jeff Brooks, Andrew Jones, Chris Babb, none of these guys are really that talented.

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by ReadingRambler on Feb 4, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

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by Adam Bittner on Feb 4, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

And he was skilled

He had a lot of post moves, more than most.

by STU Boy on Feb 4, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

He was our little Kevin McHale

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by Run Up The Score on Feb 4, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

How pathetic is it that we're ruing the loss to Andrew Ott

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by PSUdevon on Feb 4, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, Danny Morrissey's face vs. that court

That might be one of the top moments in PSU basketball history, and I mean that in a good way. He gave it his all, and sacrificed his face for it. The “OH SHIT” that left my mouth, was a response to totally expecting him to get up missing all of his front teeth. Blood is definitely not something I expect to see playing basketball, so it was definitely kind of a shock moment for me when that happened.

Ah, it’s fun reminiscing about last year…

by dawsonPSU10 on Feb 4, 2010 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

That play was the epitome of that team and the season

He made a bad play, lost the ball, and he sacrificed everything he had to make up for that mistake. That’s the essence of the 2008 team: they weren’t very talented, they made plenty of mistakes, but they put it all out on the line to make up for it.

It’s pretty simple really, you don’t need to have bundles of talent or flawless execution. Just try, really really hard. Give the game everything you have — and that’s enough for most fans. In other words, I care because you do.

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by millzners on Feb 4, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Taken out of context

that picture looks like Morrissey had just been hunted down by the Baylor player and is about to be eaten.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Feb 5, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

A look at the KenPom stats...

http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Penn%20St.

Two bit things jump out at me.

First, the three point shooting. NCAA average is 34.1%. We shoot 32.6% (225th nationally), but what’s worse is that we give up 37.1% (297th). For a smaller team like PSU, this is death. This is on the players, IMO. It’s not like they aren’t getting open looks — they are. And if ED has to teach players how to play basic positional defense, we’re more screwed than even our 0-10 record indicates.

Second, our defense doesn’t generate any turnovers or blocks. We’re 336th in defensive turnovers, 337th in blocks, 317th in steal%. To me, this is actually a recruiting issue. We don’t have any shotblockers, or any guards who can really lock down opposing shooters or jump into passing lanes.

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by Run Up The Score on Feb 4, 2010 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

Disagree RE: shotblocking.

Coach Parkhill is clearly taking the Tom Izzo approach which stresses rebounding and good postitional defense instead of shotblocking.

Pffft. I almost wrote that without laughing.

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by ReadingRambler on Feb 4, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

well

We have been rebounding well (except when we need a clutch rebound, that is)

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by PSUdevon on Feb 4, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Not in our own end we haven't

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by Adam Bittner on Feb 4, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Frazier could develop into that

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by Adam Bittner on Feb 4, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Stick him in a gym all summer

And tie his right hand behind his back, then this kid will be a player.

by STU Boy on Feb 4, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Guts

Rudy had a lot of guts, but if you put him on a basketball court, he would have gotten killed.

Basketball players get better off the court; hoops players are made in the summer. Every year, Jordan would come back with a new move, so by the time he was 35, you knew when he gave the headfake into the fadeway, it was going in.

I don’t know anything about this team’s practice habits or how hard they work at all of the things that go in to being good at basketball player, and that’s where guts matter. You can’t “try harder” at the end of the game. I’m sure these guys are trying as hard as they can. “The will to prepare is vital.”

I think its clear that they lack leadership, even though Battle’s great, he doesn’t seem to make his teammates great or even much better. It would be nice to see more effort on defense.

Losing at the end of the games is just as likely a result of other teams putting their foot on the gas as the seconds tick away. There’s always next year.

The problem is, they suck and they have little to no confidence.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Feb 4, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

GAWD !

“There’s always next year.” I tried it once and it sucked !

by DerryPharmer on Feb 4, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

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