I think we actually did a really nice job of developing him and bringing him along. And now, another school is going to reap the benefit of our work… ugh, so frustrating.

Kid was on a shitty basketball team with too many guards, and a long, long way from home.

although I know I defend him to a fault sometimes. But Babb either had unrealistic expectations of what this team would be this year or he was contacted and got a better offer.

I highly doubt Kansas or K State will take him. But if he goes to another Big Ten team I’m going to lose it

experience alone should make us better. Battle, Jones, Brooks, Jackson, Buie, next year, while not as good as it would have been with Babb, sounds a lot better than Battle, Jones, Brooks, Jackson, Babb c. 2009

We’re much better than most programs, but our football team isn’t exactly filled with organic chemistry majors.

Go root for Villanova

Most PSU sports are covered here.

And how many times do I have to say this?

IT’S MARCH. THERE IS NO FOOTBALL NEWS. PERIOD.

O NOEZ, my 3-16 basketball team might actually suck next year. The horror. If I had authority and a stack of cash, I’d fire Ed tomorrow and call the dude from Cornell. Or, you know, pay Dan Earl $250k/year to be the next head coach because…you know, winning PSU basketball family FTW.

Not sure why you’re upset about recruiting kids from Texas or other distant locales, though. Come here the other 9 non-basketball months of the year and you’ll read 2,500 comments complaining about our football program not recruiting states like Texas and Florida. And it’s not like we get the picks of the litter here in the northeast.

Hope this is an isolated transfer, though. I’d like the next coach to have some base talent in 2011-12.

Ideally, the development of Frazier and the arrival of Buie would have relegated Babb to the bench by mid-season 2011 anyway. Yeah, they lack experience, but Chris Babb was a one trick pony (yeah, I said it again, what?) and both of those guys together are more than capable of making up for Babb’s departure with their deeper skill sets.

You can use this as another reason to attack ED, but the truth of the matter is that even had Penn State finished .500, there’s a good chance this could have happened any way. Babb realized, perhaps faster than any of us, that he didn’t have the long term role on this team he’d hoped for. With all the depth at guard, and with Babb’s lack of an inside game, he was due to be pushed down the bench regardless.

It’s a tough loss, but if we suck next year, the loss of Babb will be way down the list of factors.

Posters who use “realists” and “apologists” and use logic like “Ed shouldn’t recruit good players from a different state because they might transfer” never seem to do well.

When a school like Penn State has to go to Texas to find basketball players when Baltimore, DC, Philly, NYC, and Jersey are a few hours away, there’s a problem.

How many times do we have to go over this? People think Ed needs to recruit out of the cities here because they choose to ignore the fact that every major school recruits out of the cities. Until Penn State hires a coach who has ties with high schools there, we aren’t going to get top recruits out of those areas.

Besides, Ed’s recruiting isn’t that bad. The problem with Ed isn’t the recruiting. The fact that he could recruit guys like Battle after 4 or 5 straight losing seasons is pretty telling.

What ties does Ed have in Texas?

I don’t know. And neither do you. But I do know that Frazier also came from Houston, but he sucks and can’t shoot, so he doesn’t count, I guess.

The fact that Ed can’t recruit from those areas is why he shouldn’t be here. Jay Wright wouldn’t be recruiting in Texas if he were the Penn State coach. I’m not talking about present day Jay, I’m talking about Hofstra Jay.

Jay Wright coaches at Villanova! That’s an elite program that spends money like it. In fact, they are historically a basketball school. They pride themselves on basketball. Penn State has NO history in basketball and NO ties to Philadelphia. You keep acting like it’s Ed DeChellis’s fault that Penn State can’t recruit the same high schools as Nova, North Carolina, Duke, and Syracuse, which is frankly ludicrous and ignorant of reality.

If Ed has to go to Texas to get players, he’s not good enough for Penn State.

You have to be freaking kidding me. Please tell me you’re joking. Penn State’s last three coaches: Jerry Dunn, Bruce Parkhill, Dick Harter. Penn State has never spent resources on basketball until very recently. We should have been thankful for any quality players Ed could pull in from anywhere, but now instead it’s his fault that the administration doesn’t care about basketball AND that Philadelphia is already locked down by superior programs.

It’s obvious that you’re too intelligent to be a troll, but too ignorant to fit in anywhere else. It must be hard being alone at the top.

I can sense your frustration… you want things done another way, I can understand that. Sure, things need fixing. But if I might make a suggestion? Just pretend Penn State basketball doesn’t exist. Go cheer for Villanova, a legitimate team which doesn’t flush their season down the toilet by losing to teams they shouldn’t lose to. Or Georgetown.

Or maybe, understand that there is parity in basketball and we’re at the bottom of that chain and it’s going to be tough to build it up. But understand that we have a coach, and players, who are still trying as hard as they can. A coach that recruits well, as well as he can, and thinks outside the box to get players that he thinks will make his team better. A coach that has the respect of his current players families, so much so that they decide to shake off all other offers and come into a troubled program hoping to turn it around.

There is no one else coming down the pike. Why not stick with it for one more year?

you can’t even reply correctly.

3-15 in the Big Ten, not counting the tournament.

And at least I’ve come to terms that Ed DeChellis isn’t Jay Wright. No need to feel bad for me.

Oh, and stop whining.