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Nitt Picks Agrees That Losing Is A Shame

Earning it.  Penn State Baseball 2010 is on its way after this past weekend's Big Ten/BIG EAST Challenge.  Game winners early and often:

 

In the three games of the Challenge, Penn State won in 12, won in 13 and lost in 10. They haven't yet played a regulation baseball game.

As for the rest of the league, Ohio State leads the early standings at 5-1; they also sit atop the RPI ranking list.  

One of the things that came up when we were all talking about Texas and Big Ten expansion was the minor issue of them having a real baseball team and the midwest conference having none.  Although quite early, you get a glimpse of this when you look at the Big Ten's current RPI rankings, topping out at 90 and dipping way, way down below that.  A look at the 2009 final RPI says this is about right although a bit weighed down: the league finished last season with two teams in the top 50 and seven lower than the 100 spot.

(Industrial-sized T/F/J to UncleLar at Happy Valley Hardball, who is your go-to-guy for all things Nittany and baseball.)

Star-divide

The most meaningless thing in sports.  Or almost:

 

Bruce is one of the good guys, I don't mean to rag on him specifically because this is a whole culture I'm starring at, but: really, man?  If Bowman had run, say, a 4.70, 2 one-hundredths of a second faster, he'd have finished in the top ten amongst linebackers...and we would know nothing more about him than if he had run a 4.80.  

I know this is a tired rant, but even while I hear over and over again that 40 times are overblown, I seem to actually be hearing more and more about 40 times.  There are hundreds of hours of game tape on this guy, dozens of coaches that can talk about his strengths and weaknesses, and we're talking about a padless run of an arbitrary length that doesn't actually correlate very well with the linebacker position anyway.  Why?

All your Playstations are belong to Moye. The Wide Receiver is your champion:

The wide receiver won the eight-man NCAA 10 tournament against teammates at Damon's Grill as part of the second annual video game challenge to raise awareness for Global Rare Disease Day. Moye beat Nerraw McCormack in the final, 17-7.

But poor form, sir:

Moye played with Texas during the head-to-head games against teammates portion of the competition before going with Penn State when he had to play against the Georgia winner. Moye lost that game and said having to switch teams threw him off a bit.

Texas?  For shame.

Message board hot-button Lynn makes an appearance, in which he assures everyone: "As long as I'm on the field I'm happy."

Who needs a quarterback, anyway. Orson is funny and sarcastic and just totally nails it:

Pryor is already working on strengthening the knee with weight training and drills, but shouldn't be full speed for spring drills. In his place, Tressel plans to go without a quarterback, which Ohio State does every third year or so, and is really no problem since they manage to somehow win ten games whether they actually use a quarterback or not.

I've mentioned this before, but just so we remember going into Hype Season: Only two times all year, in the Purdue loss and the bowl game, did Pryor ever throw over Daryll Clark's 2009 average of 29 attempts.  His "arrival" is hardly something the stats suggest actually happened.

In scores of other games.  Brian Billick is "quite forceful in arguing that finding a quarterback is very difficult, saying that nobody knows anything."   Orson (yes, this is his second link) says the same thing in the EDSBS style you've come to expect.

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And can someone please

find me that photoshopped pic with JayPa holding a PS3 controller?

I know about your diabolical plan.

by Kevin HD on Mar 2, 2010 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

This is the silly season.

Nothing to talk about but combine stats, recruiting rankings, and curling. No worries, spring football isn’t that far away.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Mar 2, 2010 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

Nothing to talk about but combine stats, recruiting rankings, and curling

I’m cool with this as long as we don’t have to talk about them in that order.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by Kevin HD on Mar 2, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Does that mean we're starting up the BSD Curling Team?

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Mar 2, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm in.

I can curl a stone from 400 feet using nothing but a mother****** brain bullet.

"Have I ever told the story of when I met Miley Cyrus?"

by PSUJunny05 on Mar 2, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

BSDivas+ curling= hawt.

Sometimes I write here- www.thegallyblog.com

by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Mar 2, 2010 5:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

and is really no problem since they manage to somehow win ten games whether they actually use a quarterback or not.

And really, Ohio State didn’t even run what I would call “an offense” this past season. It was more like Penn State’s basketball offense.

"It’s just that, reading through this thread, it appears you’re getting your ass kicked." -jtothep

by ReadingRambler on Mar 2, 2010 9:32 AM EST reply actions  

I was hoping to see you guys beat ND

Pitching ran out and OMG DROPPED FLY BALL TO GIVE UP THE WINNING RUN…

First big mistake you guys had all weekend at the worst time. Either way, it was good to pick up a couple of wins from the bottom of the BigEast. I would have expected for you guys to beat Seton Hall, but that Cincy game was a straight up steal for the Nittany Lions.

As for the RPI, that’s part of the reason we went to 3-game weekends instead of 4. It killed our top teams’ RPI playing teams like Iowa, Northwestern, or yes, Penn State lately (no knock, just is what it is) and extra game per week. The BigTen has some tough non-conference schedule at the top this year, so hopefully a couple of those teams turn it around and get a bit of a boost for everyone.

by formerlyanonymous on Mar 2, 2010 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

With all do respect, and I really mean that

isn’t the other major problem with our RPI that we simply don’t have very good baseball teams? I understand the weighted issues, but how often to BT teams make runs in the touny? I flip around ESPN during the CBB WS and I can’t ever recall seeing a BT team playing in a later, meaningful game.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by Kevin HD on Mar 2, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

We have a couple good ones

Minnesota and Michigan are both consistently in NCAA tournament talks over the last 5-7 years. We’ve had 2-3 teams make the tourney consistently in that time. Michigan knocked off #1 overall seed Vanderbilt twice at Vandy two years ago (widely considered the greatest and third greatest upsets in the last 10 years) to play Oregon State (who won the CWS) and gave OS two of their hardest games of the season, including several of their CWS games.

Last year was pretty embarassing in the tournament though. While we did win a couple games, the teams at the top last year didn’t have the depth at pitching to make it through the regional. They were hammered for 20-30 runs in a single game cough buckeyes twice*cough*.

Really, we’ve got 2 good programs in the two UMs, three meh programs in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State that make runs occasionally, and some really bad teams. MSU and Purdue have both had moderate success lately, but not nationally or sustained.

So yeah, the BigTen has some success, but they haven’t taken that last step into the CWS in some time. Minnesota was a preseason dark horse on many lists to make it to the CWS, not so much after the last two weekends.

by formerlyanonymous on Mar 2, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

you know a lot about cbb

thanks for the response.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by Kevin HD on Mar 2, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Bowman

Named one of the combine “Risers” after his workout, according to si.com:

Navorro Bowman/OLB/Penn State: The junior was incredibly fluid and quick on Monday. He ran solid 40 times of 4.7 but seemed much faster in drills. When asked to display his ball skills in coverage, Bowman looked more like a defensive back than linebacker.

by psuquinn on Mar 2, 2010 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

Lynn

What about Lynn’s comment? Wild internet rumors are one thing, but this seems like a strange thing to say. Implying that you’ll only be happy if you get playing time seems like the kind of thing that would get under Joe’s skin.

P.S. Long-time lurker, first-time poster. I recently resolved some computer problems, and I’m hoping to comment regularly.

by Illegal Formation on Mar 2, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome, and Lynn's going to be fine.

There was an apparent disagreement between Lynn and also between individual coaches on the staff as to where he should be playing — CB vs. safety. We’ll see how it all shakes out, but there’s your context for Lynn’s quote. Just happy to be playing.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Mar 2, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

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