That's It, That's All
Penn State has now lost two games in three days by a combined six points to the No. 11 and No. 6 teams in the country.
fuhgeddaboudit
The games don't count until Thursday.
It'd be easy to dwell on the heartbreak of the Nittany Lions' last two games after Saturday's 64-60 loss to Purdue at the Bryce Jordan Center, but don't do it. Just don't.
The Lions have played about as well as anyone could have reasonably hoped in the last six games. They've beaten two teams they're better than (Northwestern and Michigan) and gone toe to toe with the three best teams in the Big 10; Michigan State, Purdue, and Ohio State.
Would a win over one of the top teams have been nice? Sure. But the narrow losses to all three should indicate that Penn State is going bring more than any 11 seed has in the history of the Big Ten Tournament next weekend in Indianapolis.
Let's get to it.
Saturday's game looked a lot like Thursday's loss to Michigan State. The Lions fell behind by a few early, and trailed by a few for most of the game. Purdue held a lead of between six and twelve points pretty much the whole way.
The Lions closed the deficit to five, 51-46 with about seven minutes to play, when Talor Battle left the game due to nausea and dizziness. Disaster right?
Wrong.
Penn State continued its charge, and pulled to within three at 58-55 as Andrew Jones rattled home a layup with 2:50 to play.
That score held until E'Twaun Moore stuck a cold blooded Jake Kellyesque banker three with a minute left to put Purdue up 61-55
It was another dagger in a season that's already witnessed too many off the hands of Demitri McCamey and Lawerence Westbrook.
And yet even that didn't stop the Lions. The Nits scored the next five points to leave themselves down just one with 20 seconds to play. Jones fouled Moore to stop the clock with 17 seconds. Moore hit both free throws, and the Lions had the ball with a chance to tie, but a Chris Babb three with five seconds left fell short and the Lions were handed another late defeat at the hands of a Big 10 rival.
The Good
The last seven minutes of Saturday's game were the best Penn State has played all season. Without their best player, the Lions not only stayed with, but closed on their top ten opponent (albeit a top ten opponent without it's best player) right down to the buzzer. The best part was that everyone contributed. Babb, Jones, Jeff Brooks and David Jackson all hit key shots at key times down the stretch, and Tim Frazier did an excellent job facilitating the offense despite a pretty rough start.
Jeff Brooks has now posted double figures in four of the last six games and Andrew Jones has grabbed seven or more rebounds in that same time frame. It's no coincidence that those games have been among Penn State's best all season. One of the first things people complain about when the team is losing is that it lacks a "Big Man" at the four or five spots, but when Jones and Brooks play well consistently, this team wins a lot of basketball games. Penn State doesn't need a 20 and 10 guy down low, it just needs solid supplementary scoring and sound rebounding from the duo of Brooks and Jones to be successful.
Just a little more praise for Tim Frazier. After a horrendous first half, the freshman stepped up and showed a ton more focus in the second, especially when Battle left the game. He played within himself, distributed the ball to the scorers, and didn't screw up. Granted, he let the ball go off him out-of-bounds after Babb's miss in the waning seconds, but aside from that, he played some of his best basketball of the Big 10 season Saturday.
The Bad
I don't criticize Ed Dechellis much, but his substitution patterns in the first half made it look like he was cool with waving the white flag before either team had broken a sweat. Early in the first half, Frazier, Bill Edwards, and Sasa Borovnjak, all freshmen, were on the court together against a very good and very experienced Purdue team. Predictably, chaos ensured. Frazier had five turnovers, Edwards did nothing buy commit one foul in his seven minutes, and Borovnjak seemed content to stand under the hoop and hope a rebound would fall into his lap. Look, I'm all for giving these guys minutes, just not at that point in the game, and definitely not all together.
You can't give a team as good as Purdue 15 turnovers. The only Nittany Lion starter with less than two was Talor Battle. The most frustrating part is that most of them weren't bone-headed passes or mental lapses, just lack of ability to catch a pass. I swear more basketballs bounce off the forwards' hands than the floor on some possessions. One of the things this team needs to work on most in the off season is catching the ball and handling the ball down low, because it's not very good at either right now.
The Lions just completely lost track of Keaton Grant, which is odd, considering they didn't have to guard Robbie Hummel. The senior and 6.5 point per game scorer went for 17 points Saturday on 5-10 shooting from beyond the arc. On the season he's a 27% shooter from deep, but he looked like Jason Kapono at times. With Hummel out, you expect JuJuan Johnson to get his points (he scored 21 and pulled down 10 boards) but when you limit Moore to nine points, you should be able to handle Keaton Grant.
The Ugly
Boilermaker fans TOOK OVER Saturday at the Jordan Center. With students on spring break, the crowd was between 30 and 40% Purdue fans. The Paint Crew was loud from the upper deck, and there was black and gold in big clusters throughout the stands. I suppose they added to the atmosphere a little bit, but you never like to see your building get invaded like it was Saturday.
Seeing Robbie Hummel in street clothes was depressing. Even without him, Purdue is so decisive and confident in the way it goes about executing its offense that it's scary to think about how dangerous the Boilers would be in the post-season with him still around.
Next Up
The Lions will face either Michigan or Minnesota on Thursday in the 6-11 game at the Big 10 Tournament in Indianapolis.
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Is this the first time...
that Penn State will be the 11 seed in the Big Ten tourny?
by dontcallmescooter on Mar 7, 2010 10:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
No.
’05 for sure, possibly ’04 and ’07 as well (both years PSU tied for 10th in the B10 in the regular season).
The 11 seed has made the championship game before (1999 Illinois, who lost to MSU in the championship game). Teams seeded 8 or lower have made it 4 times (Illinois: ’99 and ’08, Iowa: ’02, Ohio State: ’03), but only one team seeded lower than 4th has ever won it: 2001 Iowa, who was seeded 6th.
Reach out; touch faith.
At least Eddie is consistent ;)
Eh, things should be better next year. I heard Battle missed most of the 2nd half with cramps or something? Is this true?
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Where every day is take your son or daughter to work
Yeah he was out
The team rallied and played decently. I’m optimistic that Frazier and Edwards will give PSU a lot more next year.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
2 of those were Dunn's
and 2 others (‘04, ’05) were done mostly with Dunn’s players.
Reach out; touch faith.
Fire FireJayPa
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Mar 7, 2010 11:56 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
This
"It’s just that, reading through this thread, it appears you’re getting your ass kicked." -jtothep
by ReadingRambler on Mar 7, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully this finish can carry over to next year.
Penn State doesn’t need a 20 and 10 guy down low
But they need at least a 15 and 8 guy. When Talor Battle leads the team in rebounding that’s a real problem. Ed’s biggest shortcoming has been not getting enough big talent here, some more presence down low could potentially turn a 64-60 loss like this into a 70-64 win.
No
There’s plenty of talent. If Jones and Brooks can play even like they did yesterday next year Penn State will be fine. I’d love a solid big guy as much as the next person but you don’t need one to be successful.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Mar 7, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don't buy it.
I’ll admit I haven’t watched this team a great deal because I don’t have the BTN, but I am baffled by your contention that there’s “plenty of talent” on a 3-15 team. The stats don’t show it. Last year, Cornley had 14.4ppg and 6.4rpg. That wasn’t replaced this year. Going back further to our last NCAA appearance in 2001, Gyasi Cline-Heard had 16.0ppg and 8.2rpg. You need a low post game for when the outside shots aren’t falling. Either Jones or Brooks have to elevate their game to that level, or some better has to replace them.
A month or so ago, I probably would have agreed with you
And to a certain extent, you are correct, Cornley’s presence was never replaced this year. However, having actually watched the team the past few weeks, it’s clear this isn’t the same team from the beginning of the season. People we had complained about relentlessly at the beginning of the season started stepping up. For some reason Battle didn’t need to score 30 pts/game to even keep it close. We started getting multiple double digit performances from other starters. There’s a ton of room to improve, but there’s no doubting there’s talent on this team, it just needed to be woken up, and show up consistently, which they have shown the past few weeks.
Is this
a possibly good team with bad luck or just a lousy team that looks good once in a while? Can anyone know for sure? I hate for “next year”. Even if they play well in the tourney, they’re just teasing us.
They're a good team with bad luck
But not “good” how MSU, OSU, Purdue, etc. are good. Good like Virginia Tech is good.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by fugimaster24 on Mar 7, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
They're getting all the reciprocal bad luck
from all of the good luck the team had last year.
"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."
I love the word reciprocal
Back in the day, I had a math teacher who told me to think “refliprocal” every time I hear it. How cool is that?
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
OK Team with horrific luck
PSU is #82 KenPom (based almost entirely on tempo-adjusted statistics) and #90 Sagarin Predictor (based entirely on margin of victory). These are the rankings of teams that typically get considered (but quickly discarded) on selection Sunday and end up being 4 to 5 seeds in the NIT: not a good team, but a far, far cry from a bad team.
PSU is #172 Sagarin ELO (based entirely on wins and losses, margin of victory doesn’t matter) and has lost 15 games by 10 points or less, 8 by 3 points or less. That is horrific luck.
Reach out; touch faith.
Luck
I think they started out as a bad team that played themselves into a good team. Two months ago they were absolutely terrible, but they started cutting down on the mistakes and executing the offense with more consistency. The results have been pretty obvious.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Mar 7, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, that's about it.
"It’s just that, reading through this thread, it appears you’re getting your ass kicked." -jtothep
by ReadingRambler on Mar 7, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
this is the nail on the head
Never insult seven men when all you have is a six shooter --COL Sherman T Potter
by psu in the w-b on Mar 7, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
but you never like to see your building get invaded like it was Saturday.
For only a day, you were jPSU…
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
one day is one too many
Never insult seven men when all you have is a six shooter --COL Sherman T Potter
by psu in the w-b on Mar 7, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't say that.
To be jNW, we’d have to injure Robbie Hummel and lose anyway. No, that’s jMinnesota. Sorry.
"It’s just that, reading through this thread, it appears you’re getting your ass kicked." -jtothep
by ReadingRambler on Mar 7, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not jMinnesota
Mini-scrotum.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Mar 8, 2010 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
PantherHawk? That you?
"It’s just that, reading through this thread, it appears you’re getting your ass kicked." -jtothep
by ReadingRambler on Mar 8, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
An Embarrassment
The basketball program is an embarrassment both men’s and women’s but especially men’s. One “good” ? year when they didn’t even make the NCAAs gives a no-name coach 4 more years Please. Can’t a school with all the reputation, facilities, academic opportunities, etc., etc., hire a “brand name” coach instead of pulling some 3rd rate ex PSU connected alum from Directional Tennessee U. Gag me. And we can’t recruit better than the likes of Baylor, Siena or Marquette to name a few….
The so called “lady lions” have been an embarrassment since they humiliated and canned Rene for political correctness. Now they have covered all the EEO bases but can play a lick. I don’t even watch them anymore. I can’t stand to do it.
Why do people assume Penn State can just up and hire a "brand name" coach? That's stupid. We've already established this.
How do you know we aren’t recruiting better than Siena? That’s just hyperbole. Marquette is a traditional basketball power. Big Deal.
Rene Portland may have been forced out, but I think it can be justified. The team was going downhill anyway. While from what I’ve heard, she got a bad rap thanks to one player, her politics weren’t going to work on a liberal university campus.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 9, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I just looked up Portland, because I've never heard the story of why she "resigned"
but it doesn’t seem like this was just a bad rap from one player. I know PSU leans left, but like you said her firing can be justified. Not only was she discriminating, she was public with it and unapologetic. And to disagree with Geezer on this, this wasn’t an issue of political correctness, it was of discrimination. Even taking away the lawsuit from the one girl, Portland was openly saying she wouldn’t recruit lesbians. Regardless of anyone’s political leanings (and I’m not pointing fingers at either of you), that sort of thing doesn’t belong at Penn State period, and probably shouldn’t have been tolerated as long as it was.
"from what I've heard" = second hand comments on this site.
"Based on my estimates, it appears that Stanzi shall transcend the ages." - Cairo
by ReadingRambler on Mar 9, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions























