Penn State baskeball wimps out of preseason tournament
by Richard Aceto on Apr 12, 2010 10:20 PM EDT
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Penn State was scheduled to appear in the 76 classic in California next season but has recently pulled out of the event. Given that Ed never has his team's ready to start the season and that they've done nothing but EMBARRASS themselves in these events, it obviously shouldn't come as much of a surprise.
Can't wait to hear the next Ed presser where he tells us how hard it is for Penn State to play people. I'm sure that tournament will be replaced with games vs St Francis and Lafayette.
We have the most clueless basketball program in the country. Our NCAA Tournament bid preventing schedule from two years ago was followed up by an even weaker non conference schedule this past year.
Ed talks about schools that want Penn State to come to their gym to play a ESPN game, but Ed won't play these teams because they won't come back to Penn State.
Dear Ed,
You aren't coaching the Penn State Football program where you can demand 1 for 1 or even 2 for 1. Penn State basketball blows, has actually managed to be worse under your tenure and teams have nothing to gain by beating you. They aren't going to travel to Penn State. Kentucky didn't make a return trip to Penn State, but Dunn still went and played them. Coaches who are trying to BUILD a nationally respected program go out on the road and don't hide in their 3/4 empty arena to play teams in the 300's in the RPI.
I guess Tim and Ed didn't want to hear about losing to Tulane and UNC Wilmington again next year. This program is a joke.
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sorry, I had to jump on this train, it seems your not a true member until you do something like this.
For the glory
by lionalum05 on Apr 12, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
I dislike the tone I see every so often in basketball threads. Maybe we should go back to ignoring basketball.
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i apologize for the inappropriateness of my statement
but i do not rescind my sentiment.
For the glory
"Japanese Bomb Pearl Harbor" jokes aside
If there’s not a viable scheduling plan on the backside of this news, it’s pretty goddamned chickenous.
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Apr 12, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
This is Richard Aceto
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
And now, some assorted fruits
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
As much as he comes to complain
to people who don’t want to hear it, he’s right.
We’ve done awful in these things because every year some coach at a small school with less talented players manages to do all the things we can’t do early. Look competent for more than 4 minute stretches, actually count on their team mates, etc.
They really are trying to save Ed’s job. These tournaments used to promise a good opponent-that we would never actually get to play. What are they going to replace it with this time?
And he’s wrong about last year. They did make an effort to toughen the schedule. We had Temple, Virginia Tech, American (who just got back from the tourney the previous year but lost some pieces that got them there), and UMBC (who went to the tourney 2 years ago and played Georgetown) off the top of my head.
Is anyone out there still really, TRULY, believing that next season will put all of the pieces together, after all that’s happened and all we lost?
Computers rank me number 1, blame the BCS...it's their fault.-Joe Budden
The more separation we get, yes
It sucked to lose Babb and Edwards, but being a Pirate fan, I’ve learned that we tend to think our own guys are better than they really are. Aside from Jason Bay, how many of the Pirates that have been traded in the last year are really tearing it up elsewhere? Not any really.
I doubt you’re going to see Babb and Edwards surface elsewhere because they’re frankly not good enough to be stars no matter where they’re att. Babb was a good wing guy to have with Battle on the floor, but how much of his own offense would he have been able to create? Edwards probably wasn’t going to see any more minutes than he did this year, and probably would have seen less if things go well with Brooks, Jones, and Jackson.
We’ve got a nice combo of guards to fill in for Babb, who together can do a lot more things than Babb ever could, and we should be able to bring in a decent swing man to replace Edwards in the next few weeks.
Regardless of everything that’s happened, it still comes down to Brooks and Jones, period.
As far as the scheduling goes, I’ve been saying for awhile to ditch these tounaments. This team under Ed is historically slow starting. I’ll agree with the asshat there. But I don’t think that’s an indictment of his coaching abilities. Three years in a row, we’ve seen this team play t’s best basketball at the end of the year, and in two of those years they had nothing to play for. I’m not going to fret over those embarassing early season losses to Rider or UNCW as long as the team looks good at the end.
Granted, those losses can cost you later on, but I guess the athletic department sees it as better to beat Bloomsburg than lose to the Tulanes of the world.
Not sure I agree with the strategy, but I can see the logic, and I’m not going to do things like, writing posts I just know I’m going to get made fun of for writing.
And now, Bangs McGee
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by Adam Bittner on Apr 13, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
It sucked to lose Babb and Edwards, but being a Pirate fan, I’ve learned that we tend to think our own guys are better than they really are. Aside from Jason Bay, how many of the Pirates that have been traded in the last year are really tearing it up elsewhere? Not any really.
HAHA! Comparing Penn State’s roster losses with the losses suffered by the worse franchise in baseball over the past 20 years. Let me guess, you think the Pirates are heading in the right direction too?
I doubt you’re going to see Babb and Edwards surface elsewhere because they’re frankly not good enough to be stars no matter where they’re att. Babb was a good wing guy to have with Battle on the floor, but how much of his own offense would he have been able to create? Edwards probably wasn’t going to see any more minutes than he did this year, and probably would have seen less if things go well with Brooks, Jones, and Jackson.
Cause it’s not like having a tall guard that can make outside shots and defend a little bit isn’t important. It’s not like having depth isn’t important. What does it say about what is coming back if Babb, who won’t land anywhere, was the teams second best scoring option? The coach you defend to a ridiculous degree thought a lot more of Edward’s ability than you do. He was another guy who could help space the floor. Bottom line, if these guys were still around you wouldn’t be saying this stuff.
We’ve got a nice combo of guards to fill in for Babb, who together can do a lot more things than Babb ever could, and we should be able to bring in a decent swing man to replace Edwards in the next few weeks.
Oh really? That remains to be seen. I’ve seen players a lot more highly regarded than Buie struggle as freshman. You people have managed to overrate this kid more than Derrick Williams and I never thought that would be possible.
Regardless of everything that’s happened, it still comes down to Brooks and Jones, period.
Yeah, because Ed can’t recruit front court players. Shouldn’t addressing the front court recruiting wise be something that is done almost every year, not every 4?
As far as the scheduling goes, I’ve been saying for awhile to ditch these tounaments. This team under Ed is historically slow starting. I’ll agree with the asshat there. But I don’t think that’s an indictment of his coaching abilities. Three years in a row, we’ve seen this team play t’s best basketball at the end of the year, and in two of those years they had nothing to play for. I’m not going to fret over those embarassing early season losses to Rider or UNCW as long as the team looks good at the end.
I’m an asshat? This coming from someone who was crying about name calling? Slow starts aren’t an indictment of coaching when you’re losing to teams that are inferior? Are you serious? Are slow starts are a mark of a good coach? You aren’t going to fret over losses that are incredibly damaging to a NCAA Tournament resume as long as Penn State gets some late season wins against Northwestern? WHAT? Hahahah! Considering Ed’s record in the Big Ten Tournament is laughable and the last two years against Purdue and Minnesota they had their doors blown off, I’d back off the looking good comments at the end. What has Ed ever done in the Big Ten Tournament besides beating Northwestern once and the worse Indiana team ever?
Granted, those losses can cost you later on, but I guess the athletic department sees it as better to beat Bloomsburg than lose to the Tulanes of the world.
Wrong. They will cost you later on. Good point with Bloomsburg. Any athletic department that believed they had the right coach in place would do everything in their power to schedule so poorly that not even their coach could find a way to lose the game. Maybe Curley could petition to have State College High School on the schedule?
Not sure I agree with the strategy, but I can see the logic, and I’m not going to do things like, writing posts I just know I’m going to get made fun of for writing.
I have to admit getting made fun of on this board has been hard to deal with. I really take your comments personally. It can be overwhelming battling wits with someone who thinks the program is heading in the right direction yet compares Penn State to the Pirates and believes that losing to single digit winning mid major teams is nothing to fret about. I’m definitely way out of my league around here.
by Richard Aceto on Apr 13, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, that Derrick Williams guy was an asshole.
Who rooted for him? I want names. I’m starting a blacklist.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 13, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Those are your
words not mine. You read that whole thing and the only thing you took from it was one comment about Derrick Williams
Because of how down the program was people talked about him like he was going to reinvent the game. People put a ridiculous amount of pressure on him.
He had a nice career and a great senior year.
by Richard Aceto on Apr 13, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
To be honest, I really didn't take anything away from that post.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 13, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sigh...
-More like the last two years. When you hear from Freddy Sanchez, Xavier Nady, Jack Wilson, etc. again, you give me call and/or ranting fanpost about the sky falling.
-As I recall, I defended both guys when you were calling them crap when it was convenient to your arguement. They were contributors. Not denying that. But to suggest there aren’t plenty of Chris Babbs and Bill Edwards’ out there to be had is self-serving on your part.
-As I’ve said about 1267457 times, Buie and Frazier just need to be in the 5-7 ppg range each. I don’t think that’s asking for much. In fact it’s asking for half Battle’s production as a freshman. Never once suggested he’s going to save 2011 on his own. You’re just polarizing the arguement.
-Asshat is an endearing nickname. Also, like on Christopher Duncan Turk, I hate question talkers.
-The difference between you and me is that “the right direction” for you is making the tournament every year and becoming Villanova, and the “right direction” for me is playing competitive basketball and having a few good years every now and then. This is Penn State, and this is the way things are. Would we like to have a powerhouse basketball program? Sure. But Ed or no Ed, that’s just not something that’s realistic.
When this team is getting run out of the gym night after night, i’ll tip my cap and call you my daddy, but right now, I’m ok with the way things are and hopeful we can get lucky sometime in the near future and maybe make an NCAA run or another NIT run, and all t he fanposts in the world aren’t going to change my mind.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by Adam Bittner on Apr 13, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
PENN STATE BASKETBALL IS THE PIRATES!
Finally some common sense from the fungi.
The Pirates are a horribe franchise and the joke of their league when not otherwise irrelevant. Penn State basketball is a horrible program and the joke of their league when not otherwise irrelevant.
Terrific venues, fans desperate to show passion…and every year….CRAP.
Maybe the Pirates should go the Penn State route and see if they can front load their schedule with Harrisburg, Altoona, and Reading.
by NittanyBadger on Apr 13, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
"Fungi"?
Are you serious?
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Horrible franchise or horrible team?
Because I’m pretty sure we’ve won the World Series 5 times.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by Adam Bittner on Apr 13, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Can I call you Fungi too?
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by Adam Bittner on Apr 13, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad.
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 14, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
loud noises!
I dont know why were yelling!
but seriously…ed is doing the best ed can do. the main reason we arent competitive in both football and basketball like msu/osu/fla/etc is that PSU puts no money to the program. and dont mention cornell or other small schools like that and their success..thats apples and oranges my friends.
Other than
scheduling Virginia Tech, who wasn’t predicted to be much this year, the schedule didn’t change. Are you telling me that Ed and Curley weren’t aware that American basically lost every player that mattered from their previous team? If you know the team is losing everyone, are you really scheduling a good team?
Ed has stated that other schools and ESPN have invited them to play games. When in Ed’s entire tenure has he ever accepted one of these invitations? When? When has Ed ever once taken the stance that we’re going to get some national TV exposure and try to make a name for ourselves by beating one of the top programs in their gym?
Ed talks about wanting to be the best, but what does he ever do to try to beat the best? Ed’s idea of tough scheduling is putting a mediocre to weak major conference team on the schedule. Teams like Seton Hall, Rutgers, and VTECH. Virginia Tech wasn’t supposed to be that strong this year. That was hardly a ballsy scheduling move by Ed.
Besides playing Pitt which he quickly abandoned, when has Ed ever gone out and scheduled a BCS school that was expected to finish well?
Ed talks a big game, but he fails miserably to back it up. The bottom line is Ed has zero confidence in his own ability. A coach from a struggling program that had aspirations of being great would have gone out on the road a few times by now. Other coaches do.
by Richard Aceto on Apr 13, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Who were we supposed to play in this 76 Classic?
Anyone good?
If the rumors of a BYU game, an SEC game, the VT game, etc. are true, I likely won’t get my panties in a bunch over pulling out of this tournament. However, as earlier noted, if we replace these games with Bloomsburg and Sucktacular State U., then we reserve the right to be pissed.
by Tailgate Shogun on Apr 13, 2010 7:22 AM EDT reply actions
Don’t sleep on Sucktacular State- they’re a well-coached team that’s got a few guys that can really hurt us. Those boys need to focus on Sucktacular State before they’ll even think about the next game against Heywood University at Blowme.
Sometimes I write here- www.thegallyblog.com
by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Apr 13, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard they have a center that's got an elbow.
So we might be OK.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 13, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Rumors and innuendo, but yes
BYU was discussed as a neutral site game, and SEC is just plain old rumor.
by Tailgate Shogun on Apr 13, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
We backed out.
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Apr 13, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I would point out than an anagram of Richard Aceto
(And yes, he has a point.)
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Apr 13, 2010 9:01 AM EDT reply actions
Best anagram for RUTS
http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Run+Up+The+Score&t=1000&a=n
Probably not safe for family friendly BSD, so control f “Superhero”
by PSUisMyHeart on Apr 13, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Well played.
Can’t figure out if the best Tailgate Shogun anagram is:
A Genitals Tough
Analog Site Thug
Iguana Get Sloth
Language Hos Tit
A Loathing Guest
All pretty much sum things up nicely, really.
by Tailgate Shogun on Apr 13, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I am truly a Blaring Dreamer and a Rearranged Limb.
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
A Barred Gremlin!
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Anal Bird Merger!
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome
(Clearing schedule for the morning)
The first one for me is
Innately Warty
by Nittany Lawyer on Apr 14, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Rich.....
how hard it is to play people? Ah hah, maybe that’s the rub….we could get a few games against a donkey BB team, huh??
I have to agree with Richard on this one
Pulling out of the Classic looks bad. But I think we’re jumping to conclusions here in just assuming they pulled out because they were afraid of the competition. I’ve been searching for 10 minutes and I can’t find any official announcement from Penn State they they planned to take part. All I can find are announcements from the 76 Classic that PSU was going to be a part of the tournament. I’m wondering if they had some kind of agreement in principle that fell through and ESPN jumped the gun in announcing it.
Basically, I’m saying there is a huge part of this story missing. All we know is that at one time the ESPN 76 Classic said PSU was going to play. PSU never said they were going to play, and now ESPN is no longer listing us as participants. I think to jump to the conclusion that PSU pulled out because they are afraid of the competition isn’t fair.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
When was the last time Penn State actually posted anything official about hoops? If it ain't football, it don't matter to the SID!
by PennStateBasketball on Apr 13, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Here's the announcement from ESPN last November
ANAHEIM, Calif. – ESPN Regional Television, Inc., a subsidiary of ESPN, announced here Friday the field for the fourth annual 76 Classic, to be held on Thanksgiving weekend in 2010 at the Anaheim Convention Center adjacent to Disneyland. The 2010 76 Classic field will feature eight schools, including 2009 NCAA Tournament participants Cal State Northridge and Oklahoma State and 2009 NIT Champion Penn State.
In addition to Cal State Northridge (Big West Conference), Oklahoma State (Big 12) and Penn State (Big Ten), the 2010 participants are DePaul (Big East), Stanford (Pac-10), Tulsa (Conference USA), UNLV (Mountain West) and Virginia Tech (ACC).
…
The 2010 76 Classic field combined for a 161-112 record during the 2008-09 season. Joining Penn State in the 2009 NIT field were Tulsa, UNLV and Virginia Tech, with Stanford competing in the Collegiate Basketball Invitational. Five of the eight schools also won more than 20 games each, with Penn State’s 27 wins topping the list.
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Apr 13, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I'm going to have to find something else to watch Thanksgiving weekend...
but seriously, that’s a great field. We should be playing DePaul, Stanford, Tulsa, VaTech, etc. as much as possible.
What the hell happened to the basketball program? Struggled all year, and then the wheels just fell off immediately after the big11 tourney loss. All those transfer, now this? Something’s rotten in the state of DeChellis.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Now, the 2010 field isn't nearly as good as the 2009 field
http://the22000.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/penn-state-pulls-out-of-the-76-classic/
The teams (with KenPom ratings) Cal State-Northridge (231), UNLV (39), Okie State (40), DePaul (172), Stanford (103), Tulsa (78), and VT (36). That’s actually not nearly as awful as I thought it might be — three fringe top-40 teams, a team slightly better than PSU (which was #97 in these ratings), a team that’s roughly PSU’s equivalent, and two dregs in CSN and DePaul.
I don’t know what these teams bring back next season, but on the surface, that’s exactly the type of tournament PSU should be in.
Last year’s 76 Classic was a murderer’s row by comparison. Butler (12), Minny (32), UCLA (109), Clemson (20), Long Beach (151), Portland (196), Texas A&M (17), and WVU (8).
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Apr 13, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I’d like to see Penn State in that tournament. You will never find out where you stand by playing Saint Francis and NJIT.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Check out PSUSTRETCH's twitter feed
He just explained some of this.
Let's Go State
by rmcmillen50 on Apr 13, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
No twitter? Yet your wife is in love with it?
Ah, the blogosphere. Contrary to recent posts, PSU decision not to play in the 76 Classic had nothing to do with last season’s record…
…nor was it decided by tournament organizers. PSU elected not to play in Tourney back in December and notified 76 organizers then…
…just took this long to update their website…taking a lesson from Minnesota which played in last year’s 76 and went 1-3 while playing…
…four games in six days and crossing 5,000 miles, including going straight from Classic to ACC Challenge at Miami…
…Lions decided against 3 games in Anaheim, the last Sunday evening, & return for a possible ACC game on Monday or Tuesday in State College
Let's Go State
by rmcmillen50 on Apr 13, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
you're telling me you don't enjoy
having to read 5 separate entries just to get one “post” due to the 140 character limit?
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 14, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a few of the
posters need to grow up.
Sure Richard Aceto bangs the same drum, so what. I actually think he brings a nice change of pace here – a dissenting view, formed around arguements grounded in reality. Let’s not turn into the pennlive forum with personal attacks on anyone with a different opinion.
We’re all in the same boat here. A boat full of PSU fans aching for an “actual” Men’s BB team to root for. Some of you can decide to cannibalize the rest of us to satiate your hunger, or we can all deal with the pain of reality, deal with it in our own cival way and hope that we’re rescued soon by a giant coast guard cutter (The cutter would be a AD that cares).
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
I'm just going to say this:
Richard Aceto started “personal attacks on anyone with a different opinion”. I haven’t seen anyone calling him a moron or an idiot and so on.
Perhaps this is why people respond to his posts in such a way? $0.2.
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
woah, slow down there, big spender
are your thoughts really worth 20 cents?
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 14, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Bulgarian money.
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 14, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you read Richard's posts?
No one here has a problem with a dissenting view on the basketball program. I bet if you polled the BSD congregation it be 50-50 on whether to keep Ed or not, and I think people on both sides are willing to accept each others opinions because this is BSD.
But Richard here has #1 Gone on a slew of personal attacks before this (I, for example, have been called an idiot, apologist, etc.) and and #2 poisoned the debate to the point that no one really wants to talk about it anymore, because of the attacks.
It’s not the point of view, its the guy behind the keyboard man.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by Adam Bittner on Apr 13, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I read most of the posts on BSD...
some, by shear volume of comments, are impossible to hit every comment (open threads, bama throwdown, etc.). I also skip most comments that look like a flame war is underway (unless it is just too horrific to look away – skinsrus). I’ve got lives to improve afterall (I can’t spend every hour of work on BSD).
This post for example is Richard Aceto on his well worn anti-Ed soapbox. No where in his post did he tell Fugi or anyone else to suck it. Yet the first post is an F-U, followed by assorted red x’s I can only assume are lousy enough that my work firewall blocks them.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
While he didn't attack anyone in this thread
He has done it often in the past, which is why people respond as such right off the bat.
by Kyle_Martin on Apr 14, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you read...
the “What an Unproductive Monday Looks Like” post of his that Mike shut down?
With crap like that, it’s hard to appreciate any contribution he makes, even when he’s right (like in this post).
by Nittany Lawyer on Apr 14, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
A broken clock is right twice a day, but it's still a broken clock and you should throw it in the trash and get a new one.
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
well, technically a "working clock" is most likely NEVER right
since it is always going to be at least a fraction of a second off of the “real” time.
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 14, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Richard's problem
As I see it, he makes no attempt to be a member of the BSD community. We have people like jtothep and RUTS sharing deeply personal life experiences, and the community responded in their joy and grief. Richard made no attempt to be any part of that. That’s just an example. He doesn’t participate in any of the football talk. He doesn’t participate in anything that deals with positive news. He just uses the Fanpost soap box to lecture us all in how dumb we are for supporting Ed and the program. It’s a broken record.
If Richard made an effort to meet some people at least part of the way, or take a more active role in the community to find some common ground with someone on SOMETHING, I think it would do wonders to improve his image and have his message better received.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
People here don't respond well to people who call BSDers morons, idiots, apologists, the like.
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 13, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
On top of that...
My main point of contention with his posts is that he automatically assumes that everybody is on the Ed Forever! bandwagon, which is so clearly not the truth if you look at the comments in every basketball post since January.
Yet we’re all sheep, apologists, etc. That’s the tone. And that’s the problem. I actually agree with much of what he says, at least substantively.
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on Apr 13, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
I don’t think there is a soul out there that thinks Ed did a fine job this year. The argument is over whether Ed has done all he can do or whether he deserves another year to turn things around.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
this is exactly how I feel
all his posts, sans ad hominem attacks on members of the BSD community, are actually all pretty spot on. He could be the friggen Einstein of PSU basketball, but his presentation is just WAY off.
Hmm, now I wonder what the world would be like if Einstein presented the equation like:
E=MC^2, morons!
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 14, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, and also
while he has rightly criticized the program, the coaches, and the administration, he hasn’t really posed any realistic alternate scenarios. The best one I can recall (and I think it was him) was that we should find a hire like Villanova had, but that seemed more like one of those finding a diamond in the rough situations. What’s the better plan: endlessly and expensively searching through the rough to try to find a diamond, or just settle with the cubic zirconium we have right now?
by The JuggerNitt on Apr 14, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
And anyway, I don't like the idea of a Villanova hire.
Personally, I’d hate to watch Penn State run Villanova’s run into traffic, one pass, jack up a 3 offense.
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 14, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Villanova passes once?
Thought it was first one to touch the basketball once it crossed half court had the green light.
by Tailgate Shogun on Apr 14, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think sometimes the ball slips out of their hands to a teammate. I mean, they are sweaty on that court, balls are slippery, etc.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Apr 14, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No excuse for Edward DeChellis
Okay Penn State fans:
As you all already know, your basketball coach is a coward. Plan and simple Ed is a big wimp. Remember it was his scheduling of the weakest non-con opponents he could find that sent you packing off to the NIT. Great you won it. It didn’t really do much for you being the 65th best team in the land. Before you start your Pitt bashing and insult me, let’s get this straight: There is no excuse for Pitt and Penn State not to compete against each other in men’s basketball every season. None. I used to think DeChellis got his marching orders from Paterno but now I clearly see he makes the worst decisions himself. The Big Ten is a great conference and you are lucky to have Michigan State these days. The Spartans are an excellent NCAA tourney team. But DeChellis can’t use the Big Ten schedule as an excuse to avoid quality non-con opponents. Say what you will about Pitt, but Pitt basketball would be a high quality opponent on your schedule. The other fart award goes to Curley. Congratulations, Curley: You have an excellent football program. But why do you hate your basketball team?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 16, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
What is this crap?
What does a Pitt fan bring to the table here?
"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"
by ReadingRambler on Apr 16, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 16, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
This gets dumber everytime I read it.
I try to be more respectful to relatively new commenters, but if you’re going to be arrogant and annoying (like many Pitt fans, natch), I’m afraid I’ll have no choice but to call your post stupid as it is.
As you all already know, your basketball coach is a coward. Plan and simple Ed is a big wimp.
Typical internet statement that adds nothing to your argument.
Remember it was his scheduling of the weakest non-con opponents he could find that sent you packing off to the NIT.
Wrong. It was losing to crappy teams like Iowa on the road, losing at home to Wisconsin, getting blown out by Michigan, and losing to Purdue in the conference tourney that prevented an NCAA bid. Ed DeChellis needed wins last year to keep his job. He didn’t expect the team to be as good as they ended up. No one did.
Great you won it. It didn’t really do much for you being the 65th best team in the land.
And losing in the first round of the NCAA tournament would have improved our status? If you say “yes”, I’ll have to hit you on the head and remind you that we played in Madison Square Garden last year on national tv, thus giving us exposure with recruits.
Before you start your Pitt bashing and insult me
This coming from a non-PSU fan who calls our basketball coach a “wimp” with no regard to other people in the AD’s office who make decisions? Okey-dokey. By the by, many people bash Pitt because many of their fans are annoying little lintlickers.
There is no excuse for Pitt and Penn State not to compete against each other in men’s basketball every season.
Yes, here it is: Pitt gains no benefit from playing us. Pitt doesn’t recruit much in central PA, playing in State College gives them no new exposure. The series would not be hyped by the media because Penn State stinks. If Pitt won, it’d be like MSU beating Iowa. Big deal. If Pitt loses, it’d be like UNC losing to DePaul- FIRE ROY WILLIAMS. I highly doubt and old football rivalry is enough to overcome this. This also ignores the fact that Pitt wants and thinks they deserve a home-and-home in football in exchange for playing us in basketball.
The rest of your post is filled with generalizations, ignorant statements, and trolling. Enough to make me wonder why I wasted my time with this.
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by ReadingRambler on Apr 16, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
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