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Greetings from Tuscaloosa, Alabama

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A thing of beauty. A joy forever.

Greetings yankee miscreants!

I'm kleph from Roll Bama Roll. I'm stopping by because we've had a couple of Penn State fans drop into our little corner of the SB Nation neighborhood asking for a few tips to help plan a trip to Tuscaloosa in the Fall. For the most part, our commentariat gave pretty good info to psupride's inquiry but the response to smashmouthsteel's request dissolved into anarchy pretty quick.

So, in an effort to make sure ya'll get the information you need if you are starting to make travel plans I've culled together the gist of the responses and posted them here. It is very likely we'll try and produce some kind of visitor guide closer to the date of the game but this should be enough information to get you started.

Star-divide

Tickets: Prepare for the worst. Demand is likely to be high no matter what. Some folks are predicting these are likely to be in the $250-$300 range especially if it is a night game. If you buy from scalpers keep on the lookout for counterfeit tickets which have become much more common in the past few years. You can have the ticket office verify the tickets if you need, don't buy them if the seller balks at doing this. Also, you might pay a higher price if you are identifible as Penn State fans.

Lodging: Book your rooms now or forever hold your peace. It's already unlikely you'll find an open reservation in T-town but you might get lucky. You can probably get a room an hour up the road in Birmingham or Columbus, Miss and drive in the day of the game. An RV is possible but let us know if you are seriously planning this and we'll do more homework about getting parking passes and such.

Tailgating: Get thee to The Quad. This is in the heart of campus a few blocks from the stadum and it's where everyone will be on gameday. You can reserve a spot but it's probably sold out (again, if you need the info on this, let us know and we'll check into it). But if you go it's certainly worth wandering through and meeting folks. You'll probably be able to find any number of tailgates going on the blocks around campus and in the parking lots. It's not hard to find friendly folks who'll share their beer if you are willing to talk about the history of the rivalry.

Restaurants: If you get to town early head to Dreamland. It's considered the best barbecue in town but you might want to ignore their health inspection score. City Cafe in Northport is a great place to fill up on the cheap and get that classic southern Blue Plate restaurant feel (I ate there A LOT as a student). Cypress Inn is a decent place on the river but it’s not open on saturdays, so hit this one up during the week. Kozy’s is also decent, looks like a house on the outside, nice on the inside.

Bars: The Strip is the place to go. Its just a few blocks from the stadium and where all the cool kids go after the game. RBR's home away from home is Egans. It's the classic southern dive bar and it's glorious. Ask for "Bo" the bartender and mention us and he'll take care of you. The Bloody Marys are reccomended. The Houndstooth is the tourist trap/meat market. Major label beers and a lot of the Greek crowd. The eye candy makes up for a lot of it's more egregious sins. There a bunch of other places you can pop into and check out. You are certain to find one that fits your style.

To Do: If you love football you have to stop at the Bryant Museum. It's a short walk from the quad and open on gameday. It has all kinds of memorabilia and such from the long history of Crimson Tide history. All the trophies will be on display there as well. You don't have to be an Alabama fan to enjoy it. There will be tons of stores on the strip selling Bama merchandise you'll not have any interest in but you might want to pop into The Little Gallery and see some of the works of artist Daniel Moore. You can even pick up a mini print or poster of one of his more famed works like, say, this one...

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most of our fans are already considering this game a loss

appreciate the hospitality, but don’t go out of your way.

by Mr. Rosewater on Apr 6, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Why did I know that the "Goal line stand" would be the print you posted?

Is it because I’ve lived back in Alabama for six years now? It has to be the most frequently referenced play in a Penn State/Alabama conversation. LOL!

Thank you for kindly sharing your advice. The Alabama Chapter of the Penn State Alumni Association will be hosting events in Birmingham the day before and may get buses to Tuscaloosa for game day. We’ve already been told that all Tuscaloosa hotels are booked. We’re also talking about trying to get a golf tournament together with the Alabama Alumni Association that Friday. Stay tuned for more information. If we manage to get something with both alumni associations together, I will post the information on your site.

Penn Staters who are visiting, stay tuned. I’ve already offered to host a Black Shoe Diaries tailgate in Tuscaloosa. I will have lots of Yuengling, but y’all can also pick some up on your way from Birmingham to swell the supplies! You can buy it in any grocery store and most gas stations.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 6, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

hmmmm I do no think it made its way into alabama yet. TN and FL for sure tho

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by psu in the w-b on Apr 6, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am sitting at a Buffalo Wild Wings in a Birmingham suburb

drinking Yuengling on draft (draught?) right now. We have it in many bars. It’s about $18 for a case a Sam’s, $10-$11 for a 12-pack at a grocery store, and about $6-$7 for a six pack at a convenience store.

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Apr 6, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 forever

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

by Roland86 on Apr 7, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding?

Yes, I know the commercial, but Penn State in overtime sends me into complete hysterics. Why would I wish that on anyone else (except for Butler last night).

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those fans get whatever they deserve.

What if their players all get knee injuries in the OT?

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I figured they either

1) were just watching b/c it was gameday and weren’t fans of either team
or
2) were fans of the team that was about to lose.

Wow, I put too much thought into that commercial…

by billycthulhu on Apr 7, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to show you're not alone

If you look, they’re fans of the team that was about to win. In fact, I think that’s the case in all their sports commercials (which are all variants on the theme).

I only noticed because stuff like that annoys the heck out of me.

by Aphilfan on Apr 7, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

“it was exciting times in Iowa, we just got cable tv!”

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter

by xozte on Apr 8, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

“That really made me mad.”

“The stuff Roethlisberger was saying?”

“No, the fact that they preempted Bassmasters with the football game. I really love fishing.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Two words: Iowa Hawkeye pride.”

God Bless Kenny Mayne.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Although...

I hope you PSU fans don’t mind using a hole in the ground inside a wooden shed to errrr…do your business. Good news though…we did do away with the tobbacco leaves in point of toilet tissue two years ago…although that tobbacco left a nice moist soothing feel. ; )

by String30 on Apr 7, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

I am “Top Shelf” in the socio-economic group…I mean I make almost $21,500 a year.

by String30 on Apr 7, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

of course...

more importantly, he knew of Dixie Howell.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was intended

to make reference at old southern stereotypes(yankee elitism imo). But as you pointed out, Attticus Finch is a morally sound and righteous character. Perhaps he/she intended to reference Bob Ewell, the antagonistic and morally ambiguous character in TKAMB.

by lbdasdog on Apr 7, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um, no.

There was no attempt at a reference of old stereotypes. I’m from central Pennsylvania (“Pennsylvania is Pittsburgh and Philly with Alabama in between”), I don’t want to be hypocritical. There’s people here with Confederate battle flags, and their ancestors fought for the union.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Pittsburgh is the Birmingham of the North

At least that’s what we always used to say when people in Pittsburgh would ask us, “Isn’t Birmingham called the Pittsburgh of the South?”

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

But on the plus side,

we have more than 30 days of sunshine a year and hardly any snow!

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eww.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you remember the book you're referencing?

what about the part where Scout delights in the news that Bama had just won the Rose Bowl and everywhere all over the South, the people were celebrating?

yeah it’s a good book…

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by tempebamafan on Apr 7, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

She was wrong.

They didn’t celebrate in Florida because it’s a uninhabited swamp.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Florida isn't part of the South...

…most of it, anyway (culturally speaking, of course)….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Apr 7, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, Florida:

Where one must travel North to go South.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

it is a reference to alabama's victory

in the 1935 rose bowl against stanford. scout specifically mention’s alabama’s star player “dixie” howell when she’s trying to cheer her brother up.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Running water?


That’s a brisk walk at best; by the time she gets to the porch that couch will be ash.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just passing through...

…or driving by, depending on your viewpoint.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think i remember our resident bar expert at RBR

mentioning someone in town does. i’ll check with him and have him post here.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

if it was me, I’d rather try out the local breweries. what’s the point of drinking Yuengling wherever you go? defeats the purpose of traveling.

by Mr. Rosewater on Apr 6, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad news, good news on that front

You can ask Bo (chinesedentist on SBNation/RBR) for more about the situation, but basically Alabama has some pretty backwards alcohol laws. Fortunately, we just recently passed a bill that (finally) allowed high gravity beers. I don’t know of any Tuscaloosa breweries, but there is a Birmingham brewery called “Good People” that I think has some pretty fantastic brews, and there are a few places that will sell it in T-town.

by billycthulhu on Apr 7, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

My only experience with the Good People Brewing Company

was a beer tasting where I paid $10 to try two beers – an IPA and a stout. I wasn’t that impressed with either of them, but then again, I don’t stray too far from Yuengling if I can help it.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess it depends on what you like

I’ve tried 2 IPAs from them I believe. I have to admit I thought one of them was just a little too hoppy, but I thought the other one had a really great flavor.

by billycthulhu on Apr 7, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

The IPA that I had was too hoppy,

but in general I’m not fan of IPAs. The stout was made from coffee and I don’t drink coffee. I’m not saying they aren’t good, I just didn’t like them (or paying $10 for samples of only two beers). I’m sort of an Alabaster beer snob, compared to a Mountain Brook or Vestavia beer snob (only Birmingham people will get this reference, but for the Penn Staters it’s too country!

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not generally a fan of IPAs either

but I really enjoyed the one that wasn’t ultra-hoppy.

I went to Hoover for high school and we made fun of people in Mtn Brook for being too snobby

by billycthulhu on Apr 7, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go Bucs?

that 2-a Day show was crazy and was the first time most of the country got a good look at Bama Bangs

"There are only three certainties in college football: all players will eventually leave, the ACC will be bad, and Joe Paterno ", Clay Travis, CNNsi Fanhouse

by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have never seen an episode of that

and never plan to. I think they came in a year or two after I graduated. But after my experience with many of my classmates, whatever crazy crap was on that show was probably actually a pretty fair assessment of Hoover people

by billycthulhu on Apr 7, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw a Homewood High kid with a shirt that said,

“We only have to practice once a day.”

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

the people were all normal except for the coach. I was afraid a kid would die practicing in that heat

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don't even know the half of it about that coach!

He had another family on the side and got into other troubles. Billycthulhu probably knows the details better.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read about it. Douchea

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I meant he is a dbag, not you! I just saw how that looked.

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got it.

I would hope that I’ve been on here long enough that someone would have told me before if I was a douchea. But Roll Bama Roll has probably been thinking that about me all night.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

not really...

we don’t get too worked up about faux-barner backers. there’s plenty of the real thing to keep us occupied.

as for me personally, i rewatched the first half of the SECCG and drifted off to blissful and contented slumber with visions of this lulling me to sleep.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, then you at least get my reference

of Alabaster/Shelby County vs. Mountain Brook. Hoover’s more high class than we are! LOL!!

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I always got the feeling people felt like Hoover was the high school of rich snobs, so I thought it was pretty telling that we thought that way about Mtn Brook. (of course, with a 700+ size graduating class I feel like there was room for plenty of contingents)

by billycthulhu on Apr 7, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm, beer

(insert Homer Simpson image)

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't everyone feel that way about Mountain Brook?

All the UAB MDs that I work with send their kids to ASFA (Alabama School of Fine Arts) it seems.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I figured...

…there’d be quite a few at Altamont and Indian Springs too.

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by Nico2.0 on Apr 7, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some of Birmingham's...

…alcohol laws are pretty great though in that bars can stay open as late as they want.

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by Nico2.0 on Apr 7, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Point...

I have always thought Yueng was good but a bit overrated. I would suggest trying some of the local/regional brews. There are some tasty ones here.

by String30 on Apr 7, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard the brew from FL does not taste the same

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that...

I was in Philly last November and didn’t notice a difference, but sometimes can tell a difference between bottle and draft.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't personally have it, I was told by a friend in Atlanta

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

drink it during the Orange Bowl in 2005 and couldn't taste a difference

but then again I was pretty bombed

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by psupride on Apr 7, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i currently live in florida

and when i first got down here i could taste a slight difference, it was if the quality of the water used wasn’t as good

by lion09 on Apr 7, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's probably because Tampa has the worst water I've ever tasted
it was if the quality of the water used wasn’t as good

my old well in Harrisburg tasted like sulfur and it was still better than the crap they have down here!

I went to Denver not too long ago and I was in awe of their water. So crisp and clear and cold. No wonder they pimp that stuff out in the Coors commercials…

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by showtime on Apr 9, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

We've had Yuengling...

…for at least a decade.

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by Nico2.0 on Apr 7, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yuengling rumor??

We have had Yuengling for at least 10 years. The rumor I heard was that a daughter of the owner attended the University of Alabama and wanted her family’s beer to be sold in Alabama. So we have it everywhere even Costco.

by BAMARPH on Apr 7, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know that she did go here

but I think that it was a more then that that brought it here

by chinesedentist on Apr 8, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

barry krauss is god's own badass.

that play is easily part of the top five of all-time most famous in modern alabama football history. up there with the sack, the strip, the kick and, now, rocky block.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not possible.

God is a Penn State fan, as evidenced by the sky.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard that all the time when i lived in North Carolina

and they got stuck in the NIT this year.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our shade of blue is nicer.

Plus, God doesn’t care about basketball.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

God wrote my letter of recommendation

That’s how I got into Penn State. Terrific guy. Smells great.

by Mr. Rosewater on Apr 6, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

just be sure to call him "coach"

only sportscasters ever called him “bear”

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What’s not to love about the aroma of Chesterfields and Old Forrester?

"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"

by Stuck in the Plains on Apr 7, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

FTW

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by BamaReturns07 on Apr 7, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

we didn't choose our colors, though.

UNC did.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Apr 7, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

and something to keep in mind

a hell of a lot of alabama fans are not alumni. a large portion of the fanbase are alabama residents who never attended the university. the importance of the team to the state is difficult to discribe, its much more of the dynamic of a professional football team but even that doesn’t quite cover it. during the horrors of the depression the football team was about the only positive thing the region had to take pride in and that’s something that has stuck in the mindset of the place.

as crimson tide fans we embrace that as part of our unique culture but it’s part of the reason we get a lot of crap about how our fans are all rednecks and whatnot. i am an alabama fan because i chose to go to school there but on gameday i’ll meet people who never took a class but whose family have been fans for generations. it’s really amazing and awe inspiring.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...

Are Auburn fans like the Basque separatists of Alabama?

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew this response was coming. And I loved it.

While I’m here, I’ll also say I find Alabama-Auburn about 2000 times better than Michigan-Ohio State. This is mostly because I despise Michigan and Ohio State with all of my breaths, but also because I don’t think Alabama and Auburn secretly love each other and need each other like Michigan and Ohio State.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, basque separatists speak their own language

you’d be lucky to find an auburn grad who can read and write.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

kentucky is actually good at something.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly.

I was just thinking after reading this: http://www.sbnation.com/2010/4/4/1405067/erudite-kentucky-fan-airs

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 6, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh we can set you up with plenty of that.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you.

I will enjoy this for days.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

did you mean “redneck slap fight” from last season?

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, I think it was from 2008, but I'm not sure.

I also could understand about 10% of what the Auburn redneck fans woman said.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

that one is in the 2009 list but it’s clearly after the 2008 iron bowl. it’s worth checkin out.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Euskera!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Alabama and Auburn secretly love each other and need each other like Michigan and Ohio State.

You might have gotten a different impression if you’d been talking to Auburn fans

by billycthulhu on Apr 7, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kid, I kid

but yeah, it’s a pretty heated rivalry

by billycthulhu on Apr 7, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I guess you're not one of those that will claim

“I cheer for Auburn except when they’re playing Alabama”? I hope not. As much as I dislike hearing the snarky comments, I dislike that comment even more.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 6, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's comparing apples to oranges

Unless Iowa continues to ruin our perfect seasons for many years.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 6, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that a rivalry?

I mean, I root for a number of SEC teams that I don’t consider rivals, unless they’re playing Alabama (see: MS State, UGA)… Okay, maybe just a couple…

by billycthulhu on Apr 6, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOO

Iowa should try beating jNW, its mighty fun.

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by Roland86 on Apr 7, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will you come back to the light side if we beat Iowa this year?

Note: My current mindset is seeing Iowa as a loss, but the unpredictability of the Stanzi Factor can make things more interesting then they are expected to be. See: ummmm…just about every Iowa game from last year, lol

by dawsonPSU10 on Apr 7, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right back at ya!

My enmity of Alabama goes deeper than my hatred of Michigan and Ohio State. I have a nice t-shirt from 2001 – On the front, “Dear Mr. Bryant,” on the back, “Sorry Bear, it’s 324 time in Happy Valley.”

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

sawrite

winning it against auburn was even sweeter.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it was...

Glad you’re taking my joking in the way it was intended.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 6, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

pro tip

we don’t take kindly to being patronized.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't patronizing you,

I was just sticking up for Auburn fans. I’ll now revert back to being the nice, charming Penn State fan that I am and not make any more comments about Alabama.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 6, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, i'm in your territory... you can do what the hell you want.

i’m just providing advice for if you decide to head to t-town for the game.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think so...

but i meant the website. stirring shit is not the intention of this fanshot.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right and I think that you can see from my first posts

That was not my original intention. I thanked you for your advice, I agreed that not all Alabama fans are obnoxious (particularly those who went to Alabama). I just got my back up when you started posting about Auburn. I’m the oddity here since I was raised an Auburn fan and went to Penn State and still love both teams.

Seeing how this is a Penn State site, as I said before, I will refrain from commenting on that, and go back to being a genial Penn State fan.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

darlin,

we’ll match you hate for hate when it comes to the iron bowl rivalry. any time. any where. but since this is a penn state blog i figured it would do better to not get that kind of nastiness started and focus on the rivalry in question. that said, we cordially invite you to drop into RBR during november in the lead up to our next beat-down of the barn.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was raised an Auburn fan and went to Penn State and still love both teams.

i’m sorry.

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Apr 7, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, yes & yes

I went to Alabama for graduate school. Loved my time in school, loved living a block from the stadium during football season but I was over Tuscaloosa after about 18 months. I moved back to Birmingham and became a commuter student.

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by Nico2.0 on Apr 7, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

err... sorry. got the wrong reference.

yes, paterno passed coach bryant. but that’s not much of a point of contention for bama fans. any good coach that lives long enough had a chance of doing that. the six national championships are much more important to us.

but the crimson tide won in happy valley on Nov. 14, 1981 to tie coach bryant with alonzo stagg’s all-time record. despite the loss, the penn state fans gave bryant an ovation, an act quite a few alabama fans still remember and is cause to hold you guys in high esteem.

the next game was the iron bowl and that’s when bryant became the winningest coach in college football history.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forget national championships.

Sportswriters are morons. We prefer undefeated seasons here. ;-)

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but as far as I know, in a single season...

Boise State never beat:

USC by several touchdowns
Michigan (at Michigan)
Ohio State…. by a score of 63-14!
The champions of the Pac 10

We won’t even discuss ’69, because we got our revenge on Texas in the Cotton Bowl a few years later.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have one of those where we were denied...

…‘66. We were the only undefeated, untied team in the country. Beat the ever lovin’ crap out of Nebraska in the bowl and we were coming off of back to back MNC’s. F ND and F MSU.

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by bamachine on Apr 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but...

MSU’s best player was named Bubba Smith. Gotta give the title to a guy named Bubba.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

That reminds me of a special...

…ESPN had about the ’66 ND-MSU game. The commentator said something along the lines of Alabama has a legitimate gripe about the way the polls turned out. Bubba Smith was on the panel and said “We woulda whupped them boys, I played in the Senior Bowl against one of those BAMA boys and whupped him all day long.” I would like to know, since when is one player a team?

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by bamachine on Apr 7, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is how I feel about Ohio State and Michigan

when they play each other we root for the meteor

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not the

unseen fault line?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too untrustworthy.

Might just graze them.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being a native Alabamian,

and raised an Auburn fan, I’ve had plenty of experience with the obnoxious Alabama fans who never stepped foot on campus (I’m related to some of them). The fans who actually went to Alabama are generally much classier than the ones who didn’t.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 6, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am one of those sidewalk alums...

…I did not attend UA. I planned to but they didn’t offer me a full ride coming out of HS, Jacksonville State did. So I went to JSU. My brother did play for Bryant at UA and I am a season ticket holder. Do I count?

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by bamachine on Apr 7, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you're polite, then you're a classy Alabama fan.

I was making a sweeping generalization based on one of kleph’s comments. Maybe I should qualify it as “many Alabama fans who have never stepped foot on any college campus are obnoxious.” I was just surprised when I moved back here at the difference in the behavior and attitude between the people I met who went to Alabama and the rednecks I met at BWWs and other places. I live in Shelby County, we have a lot of rednecks.

I understand you had to go to school where the money was. That’s how I ended up at Penn State and not at Auburn. For what it’s worth, my dad is a JSU alum. He helped found the Kappa Sig house there.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, my point about being patronizing

is we really don’t give a damn if someone classes us as acceptable or unacceptable in their estimation (particularly a barner partisan). that said, there really doesn’t seem to be much point in being a dickbag either.

but to say that non-alumni alabama fans are, as a group, despicable and to be looked down on is something we bristle at because it’s actually rather elitist. there a lot of very good reasons for our fanbase to be the way it is and any true alabama fan embraces that. (and, as our polar opposite, these conditions also hold true for auburn fans. ergo, you consider yourself a barner although you didn’t attend the school)

for most schools the fans are made up of a group that attended the school i.e. college educated. suddenly there’s a very real socio-economic divide between that fanbase and ours. and it manifests most often in the tossing around of the “redneck” stereotype. you have to keep in mind, we don’t apologize for this element of our fanbase, we embrace it. and anyone who looks down on us about it can go to hell.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not saying that a fanbase has to be alumni

Penn State has a lot of fans who never went to school there. The point that I was making is that there seems to be a difference in the way that Alumni fans and non-alumni fans interact with fans of other schools.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get him Kelph. As a “sidewalk alum” who hasn’t pursued a degree in anything (school of hard knocks ftw) I do not take offense to what he is saying, but he is painting with a broad brush. Don’t believe there’s any good way to put it in any situation; most dickheads are the outsiders.

Now with that out of the way, nice to see an Aubie make it to Happy Valley. How long of a walk was that? Or did you happen to have a horse and buggy the patriarch let you use? ;-)

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by AlabamaJammer on Apr 7, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK

Now that paragraph sums it up darn well! Well played sir!

by d12 on Apr 7, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a covered wagon actually

I had a lot of stuff to take to the dorm room! Lol! I went to Penn State because I graduated from high school in the Pittsburgh area. We had upgraded to a car by then.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pittsburgh? Talk about a fish out of water. Or with running water. LOL

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by AlabamaJammer on Apr 7, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This statement

from folks always drives me up the wall. Why do I have to actually attend a specific school to root for it? Do I have to have played for the New York Giants to root for them? No, but my Father was born and raised in Manahattan and he loves the G-men… so I as well root for them.

My ultimate desire was to attend the University of Alabama, but, like bamachine, I was afforded another opportunity on the east coast that I took. My Mother and my Cousin both attended Alabama. So maybe I am just a legacy fan? I don’t consider myself an obnoxious Alabama fan. In fact I LOVE going to Bama games and talking to fans of the otherside. It’s what makes it fun and is always a lesson in culture for both myself and the other party. Sharing a beer and some friendly smack talk with enemy is so much more fun and worth the experience than just berating each other. That ruins the experience altogether.

Granted, you are right, there are some obnoxious Alabama fans, both that attended the University as well as not… just like there are obnoxious Auburn fans, Penn State fans, Ohion Sate fans (the list goes on) that both may have or may not have attended said university.

To clump me in with what you call is an obnoxious fan base, based on having not attended Alabama is just wrong.

That being said I am looking VERY forward to this meeting and the year after in Happy Valley as well! Can’t wait!

by d12 on Apr 7, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My generalization was based largely on experience with family

and people I’ve met in Birmingham. Not all non-alumni fans are obnoxious and not all alumni-fans are nice. Therefore, I apologize for the sweeping generalization. I was actually trying to give you some kudos, in that before moving back here in 2004, I didn’t think there were any nice Alabama fans.

It’s actually pretty funny really, how Alabama fans react when I introduce myself as a Penn State fan and then how that changes when I tell them I’m an Auburn fan, too. We’ll talk very politely until the subject of Auburn and Alabama comes up. When I say that I’m an Auburn fan, too, the entire conversation changes and goes downhill.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, it does raise some serious questions about your character.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now you are getting it ;)

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by bamachine on Apr 7, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this the part...

where you are supposed to go OH SNAP! or something? it’s like something’s missing there.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your mom is missing he...

Whoa, thought I was at BHGP for a second.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was in your mom for a second

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by Roland86 on Apr 7, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

For an hour actually.

Then you lost in the clutch.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happens everytime.

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by Roland86 on Apr 7, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Only if you have hopes and dreams and a non-Italian QB.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOM!

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I should have ended with a :o)

Trying to move back and forth between work and the blog – not doing it very successfully.

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by Paige2PSU on Apr 7, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you rec this post, Alabama will give you half of their 500 national champions.

Just joking, kleph. Sorta.

Thanks for the post. See you in Sept.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

national championships

I really should read my comments before I post them.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 6, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

no worries...

we’ll be glad to explain to you at length and in amazing detail about our case for the 13 national championships we claim as well as the eight others we believe we have a case for.

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by kleph on Apr 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You seem like a nice fellow

I feel as though trumpeting a # of “national titles” is so bogus. Not just for Alabama, for everyone. Our former dear little brother Pittsburgh claims 137 of them for crying out loud.

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by Roland86 on Apr 7, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the record, kleph.

He’s exaggerating, but only slightly. I believe they claim, what, nine? But what’s great is that they have banners for them with the BCS trophy. And all of their claimed titles came before the BCS era.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

They claim 11

And that banner is just hilarious. The best part is they take it down for big games because they know people will laugh at it.

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by Adam Bittner on Apr 7, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is actually the correct answer

there is no ncaa-recognized national champion in college football. once you note that and agree every championship is determined by outside organizations of varying repute and longevity then you can actually begin this discussion.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that is where you'll run into problems, at least 'round here.

Sure we can (and JoePa has been know to) claim championships from at least 5 other years. I guess I like to recognize the ones that are nationally recognized. Further, I really only start counting championships since the face mask was invented. This partially has to do with me arguing with my fiance’s michigan friends (who claim like 104 pre-WW1 titles) and partially has to do with the fact that real college football, as I imagine it, didn’t become title-worthy until after the Second War to End All Wars.

I guess my point is that we have 2 titles, have a feasible claim to at least 4-5 more, but I don’t really recognize the older titles unless it is widely accepted. Some of those pre-WW1 years had, by your understanding, like 6 national champions.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

you miss my point...

once we agree that the sanctioning body of the sport does not recognize the champion we have essentially said every means of evaluating the best team in the land is arbitrary to some degree. it’s clearly ridiculous to dismiss the issue altogether but you have to accept there will be limitations on the result.

arguments typically then break down into 1) relative merits of a given team’s season 2) value of evaluating agencies 3) personal preference. and once you start dropping first person pronouns in your argument, you’ve pretty much regulated yourself to door No. 3.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to think I'm in a hybrid of all 3

I will give more weight to an AP champ than a Toronto Sun-Times champ and will certainly recognize the merits of an great season (of which Alabama and PSU have had plenty). I guess I’m mostly in door 3, but that’s only because teams like Pitt and Alabama (and that is not meant to be derogatory) can claim multiple national championships for years that other teams can claim national championships.

And first person pronouns is how I roll. Unless you’d rather I start posting in the third person. PSUJunny does not want to do that, though.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

but giving extra weight to the AP poll...

leaves you at a loss over the past several years since they opted out of the championship arrangement. but i think your description of “a hybrid of all three” is pretty much where most folks tend to fall. the bigger problem happens when folks confuse the argument over the polling method and the merit of a team’s performance.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well the last several years is a discussion of its own, as there is clearly a "national" champ.

Other than that one year (2003?) where USC and LSU claimed titles, one a BCS and one an AP, I think its safe to say the BCS champ is national champ.

I know, I know, the BCS doesn’t award a national championship per se, but poll the country and ask who was national champs last year and everyone will say Alabama. That is why the past decade or so has been easier for title-claiming. My problem lay with the 50 years before the BCS.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

50?

we’re interested in the previous 100 years.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that's another one of my points.

While it is technically true that college football was invented over 100 years ago, were those guys actually playing college football? Or was it a bunch of Sillynannies running around trying to figure out what the hell was going on? That’s why I relegate my title-talk to post-1950ish.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

but that's as arbitrary a point as any other

like any history, college football’s past has to be seen as a continuum. while comparing different epochs to each other is clearly foolish, disregarding the accomplishments of the past is folly as well.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree.

Like I said, I chose 1950ish because Michigan won their last of 214 titles in 1948 before winning an (arguably) real one in 1997, and I like to get after my future-wife’s friends about that. But also I feel the 1950’s was when college football really started to be “real.” Like it or not, there is some serious truth behind the movie Leatherheads.

But I agree on arbitrarily picking a starting point for discussions. Obviously, as Bama fans, you guys want to start the discussion in the 20’s, and that’s fine. I’m just saying that, IMO, the debate should be around a 60 year debate.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

honestly,

we want to begin the discussion in the 1910s. the accomplishments of thomas kelly and xen scott are as important as those of wallace wade and frank thomas even if they don’t have statues in front of BDS.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well then we'll have to agree to disagree.

If I were a Bama or Princeton or Harvard fan, I’d probably want to start the discussion then too. Hell, Penn State can “claim” as early as 1911, but that time in college football just wasn’t as (and I hate to use this word in this debate) relevant as it is today. A crew championship in 1911 probably got more kids laid than a college football title.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

but college football would be relevant today

if not for the accomplishments of those teams in that era.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously the groundwork was done by the "pioneers" of CFB.

But that doesn’t mean that 1-0 Princeton team deserves a national title just because they played one game. I beat my brother in ping pong once. Do I deserve a national title because I went 1-0?

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, but that doesn't mean I didn't earn it by going 1-0.

Princeton won a CFB title with that record in 18dickety9, but that doesn’t mean that USC or Penn State or Oregon couldn’t have played as well. They just didn’t know the sport was around or the ONE GAME TO RULE THEM ALL was being played.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

They just didn’t know the sport was around

If they don’t have a football team, they can’t be national champions. The fact that they might have been able to field a team that might have beaten the best team in the country doesn’t mean squat.

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess its meh to me before the modern CFB era.

That’s where the “agree to disagree” thing comes into play.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

well this is our point

it’s not “meh.” it’s very much a part of why the teams and schools involved today are who they are. the “fascination” with the past folks mock us for is less an interest in claiming as many titles as possible than understanding the importance of teams, coaches and players that have paved the way for today’s squad.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that statement.

This debate started over claiming national championships. I in no way discredit the CFB pioneers. Without them we wouldn’t be here, so they are extremely important.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’re very used to teams with fewer claims believing many of ours to be "meh’. It’s something of a point of pride for us.

Also: When does the “modern age” start, exactly? 1982?

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I said above I keep it in the late 40's, early 50's

For some of my own reasons, but also because that is when the college football as we know it today began – the leather helmet was still used in 1948!

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok

but now the burden is on you to defend it.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Defend what?

I thought that’s what I had been doing.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

no

you’ve argued against other definitions, you’ve simply said “i prefer it” as to your reason for starting at that decade.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I've said that is when CFB seemingly, at least IMO, began to take shape as what we know it as today.

The “real” helmet, the face mask, organized polling units (even if there were more than one or two)…

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

so we have to take your word for it?

you’ll understand if we find that reasoning… flimsy.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying you have to take my word for it.

I’m saying that’s my view, just like you guys have been giving me your view. We’re not going to see eye to eye, and I agree with your “respect the past legends” comment, but it is, like I said, an “agree to disagree” debate.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

and our response to that is

“defend it” and you then go back to a) other years aren’t as deserving or b) you prefer this. what we are asking for is a specific basis supporting this argument.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that's what I just gave.

Maybe we’re talking about different things now, but your argument is to claim 13 (or whatever #) titles from the beginning of time, whereas my argument is too recognize college football since around the time the leather helmet went away. Is it arbitrary? Yes. But that’s just when I feel that college football evolved into something it looks like today. I don’t know how else to defend it.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

to the beginning of time

helloooo slippery slope.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what I mean.

I’m not trying to be deragatory. Really, I’m a decent guy. Your point is that we should recognize CFB titles from day one (188whatever) and my point is that I recognize the national titles from 1950ish. At least I think those are our points. I’ve gotten lost a few times in this thread.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

So… the helmet and facemask are what defines “modern football”, then? That’s the standard?

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Among other things.

To be sure, there are a million aspects of “modern football.” Once again, my point is that around that time, college football began to look like what it does today.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok then...

check out the photo in this entry about alabama’s 1915 squad. they are clearly wearing face protection.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahead of their time, I guess.

I’m sure there were face masks before, and I don’t know why the face mask sticks out in my mind as so important, but they weren’t widely in use until the 50’s.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The fallacy here

is in the notion that there was an instant during which football started “looking like it looks now”. The fact is that football (like other sports) have been evolving, in ways small and large, since they started being played.

Drawing lines in the middle is pretty difficult to do without looking like you’re just being arbitrary and then trying to justify it somehow.

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again, I agree with this.

I know its an arbitrary line. The only non-arbitrary line is the beginning of CFB. My whole point, though, was that national titles in the early years were almost like a popularity contest, with a smattering of groups giving out titles to whomever they saw fit.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Human polls define 33% of the current national title that nobody disputes.

The popularity contest never went away.

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

but then, of course,

your arbitrary line is just as nonsensical. this argument invalidates you contention that any team’s national title is valid. you either have to agree with this or bite the bullet and back up why you feel some titles are more valid than others.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel that all pre-WW2 titles should go to Jim Thorpe retroactively.

I mean, no one really cares about national championships won back then, right? Right?

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea who's right here because I haven't been paying attention and there's too many posts here to read.

But I like you because you’re new and most of our new readers are like Skins4ever and Richie Aceto, plus Junny is my nemesis, so I agree with you.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

arch-nemesis

And your arrival probably signals the end of this, at least for today. Which is a good thing.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually...

it’s traditional to do the Rammer Jammer, on occasions such as these. don’t worry if you don’t catch all the words, we’ll teach them to you in september.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

No!

We’re already so used to “In Heaven There Is No Beer”.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh! Can I be your arch ally?


I call REO, but only because Dennis DeYoung is an embarrassment to Chicago.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok!

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

By the way,

my wife wanted to see the link of your Village People knock-off you posted the other night but I couldn’t find it. Repost?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha!

Ridiculous…thanks, I think.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sent it to her

and can now hear it playing from the next room peppered with “hah!’s” & “huh?’s”

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hup! Shoot ’em up! Hup! Ride! Hup! Shoot ’em up! Hup! Ride!

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

She has now declared

“I want those four minutes back.”

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

So........
She has now declared “I want those four minutes back.”

how is that any different than what you usually hear?

by bconway6 on Apr 7, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because she's normally

asleep…

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reclaiming space?

That figures.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Somewhere between REO/STYX and …that…, you two have seemingly killed an otherwise nonsensical. Good work, gumshoes – I salute you both!

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 7, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, my work here is done.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its not that it was nonsensical.

It started alright. Then we started repeating each other and trying to convince the other and it kinda went downhill right around the time we started debating the face mask.

We’ll start it back up once Cairo gives us some HATE.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was an argument on the internet

that makes it, by definition, nonsensical from the start.

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 7, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

ohhh... he goes meta on us.

with a bonus topping of cynicism.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha...To be honest

I’m kinda sad nobody Godwin’d this entire convo.

/only Nazi’s claim pre-WW2 championships

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by IcersGuy on Apr 7, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The HATE WEEK for this game will be epic

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

you cant be an absolute relativist in terms of the definition

but then insist there is an absolute standard as well.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

The relevance of the sport doesn't determine the legitimacy of the title

Turn it around: how many crew national champions do you think believe their championships to be “illegitimate” because nobody watches rowing?

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because when 5 teams claim a title

the title is inherently discredited a bit. See 1919 or 1921.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

As kleph and I debated above, why = the credibility of the awarding agency. Would you, as a true Bama fan, really claim a title if something like The Jake the Snake Fan Club bestowed the award upon you but the BCS, AP, etc all awarded the title to PSU?

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know if we debated it

i just was elucidating the types of avenues these discussions tend to break down within.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re mixing your arguments now. There is no “the awarding agency” — and the reason why multiple titles can be claimed is because there are multiple groups that hand out titles.

Given the number of teams and the distinct lack of overlap in the scheduling of them, it is possible that there has been a time when there were 3, 4, or even 5 teams with legitimate claims to the title.

Once you admit that more than one team could claim a title, that it doesn’t require an undefeated and untied record, and that a team with zero losses isn’t necessarily better than a team with one loss, a lot of these arguments just cease to be meaningful.

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

This conversation is epic

Please continue.

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by BamaReturns07 on Apr 7, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do earlier Superbowls not count

because the league was smaller and other cities could have formed a team but didnt?

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by BamaReturns07 on Apr 7, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, wait a...

This will not stand—far too preemptive. Plus, everybody knows that Ugly in Hockey=awesome. Pretty, otoh? =douchea.

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by jtothep on Apr 7, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugly in hockey is usually like missing teeth.

Not freak radioactive accidents.

/still ticked they went empty net for no good reason and let him tie Crosby.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No titles...

in any sport should really count until the sport was fully integrated.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

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by Esteban d' Amur on Apr 7, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, i think you are right...

this whole nonsense about national championships is kind of silly.

so, have you guys won another rose bowl yet?

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Location, location

LoLqation!

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by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 7, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

RV

I’d definitely be interested in information for bringing an RV.

by speedomike on Apr 7, 2010 7:54 AM EDT reply actions  

ok. we'll look into it.

but, for now, we suggest you pick up this book and give it a read.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

here is a little info on RV's

This link is from last year but will give you a few pointers. Me or Kelph will do some digging and find some more up to date RV info as soon as it is posted.

by chinesedentist on Apr 7, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

who is this kelph person?

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey kleph

Can you please drop me an email?

blackshoediaries (at) gmail (dot) com

by BSD on Apr 7, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

OMG!

you aren’t going to sue us, are you?

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

We've got the fire power.

I can count no less than 10 BSD regs with JDs.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

non-staying question for kleph:

I’m gonna most likely be incredibly busy around the game, but I’m considering flying down with my dad for just the game. What are the logistics behind flying down on a red-eye and leaving after the game? (obviously, if when it’s a night game, I’ll probably have to stay the night, but we’ll cross that bridge later)

Where should I fly into, how long a drive, etc?

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-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Apr 7, 2010 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

It could easily take you twice as long to get to the game from the airport (Birmingham is your best bet, unless you can somehow get a cheap flight into tuscaloosa regional) on a gameday. There’s really only one major road into/out of Tuscaloosa I-20/59 and pretty much everyone who shows up for the game drives along that route.

It’s really, really bad after the game. Depending on where you end up parking, it can be worse than getting out of West Lafayette after a Purdon’t game. You will want to leave yourself 3 or 4 hours after the game to get back to Birmingham. You might get lucky and make it more quickly than that, but don’t count on it.

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

i typically fly in the day before and fly out the day after...

its an hour or so drive between tuscaloosa and birmingham so you have to take that into account when figuring out the logistics. and don’t forget, on gameday traffic in t-town is going to be horrendous.

the upshot of doing it this way is you get to start the gameday experience in the departing airport. the downside is it’s a pretty brutal way to do it. the reason being flights will be packed with folks doing the same thing you are planning. if you are going to try it you need to get your tickets pretty soon.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not 100% sure I could fly in the day before, but I'll look into it.

Thanks!

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Apr 7, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

aw shucks.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Info on bars and enjoyment in Tuscaloosa

I’m Bo and I run the show at Egan’s during game days. Much like Kelph said The strip which is a block or so from the quad and the stadium is your pre-game best option. Egans is a smoky dive bar with the best beer selection and we pride ourselves on enjoying football with other fans and draw a little bit more of the “went to school there crowd”. I don’t like anyone being obnoxious I agree that everyone should root and cheer but when people start insulting other people or just being a d-bag they have to go. There are always a couple of d-bags that slip through but for the most part we have a educated crowd that likes to party and have fun. The Houndstooth is tempting because of its huge ass patio but they built a new building that makes you feel like your drinking in a Sam’s club with Alabama memorabilia on the walls. The place will be swamped and their beer selection is a little weak and over priced. I do know several people that love it but it just seems a little soulless to me. There are also a few more bars up and down the strip so I’m sure there will be something for everyone.

As for Mr. Rosewaters comment about Yuengling is everywhere. Even the gas sations have the Black and Tan as well as the Bock. Bars that don’t even sell any nice beer will have this as their on “import?”. Also Rosewater brings up a good point about whats the point in traveling just to have stuff that you can get back home. Alabama has one really good brewery and thats Good People. The problem is that they are only available in draft and because of different contracts with different distributors they are only available Down town (which is only a half mile down the road but with traffic and the need to be close to the stadium is probably better for after the game . That being said there are a few really good semi local beers : Lazy Magnolia from Klin Mississippi (their Southern Pecan is a great brown), Terrapin from Athens Georgia and Yazoo from Nashville Tennessee . They all make good beers that you might not be able to get up in your neck of the woods.

I open Egans myself at 8 am before any football game and have gained a decent rep for my Bloody Marys. I try to make them have a little some thing of everything that will turn your morning around if you had too much fun the night before. Why we open so early is because its easier to park and some people like to get there that early. Its also one of the best times to have non drunk conversations with other fans and just get going. Here is a link to a piece on RBR about egans. I’m the guy who someone commented looked like Kevin Smith. That really got me back to the gym. Please don’t think tis is a really long add about Egans. Egans is not going to be everyone’s cup of tea. I’ll be glad to help people find what suites them best for there gameday experience. As many a person has done for me when I have been a guest in another city.

All in all I think most everyone is looking forward to a great game between two great schools with a lot of history and respect. There are going to be gooberhead fans that have no tact and a very sub par intelligence that makes the rest of us look like asses but from what I can tell every fan base has those people. So if you have any questions feel free to stop in and see me or you can email me at boandnick(at)gmail(dot)com and I’ll be glad to help. Oh and also I run an entertainment podcast and blog about Tuscaloosa were We list everything bands events and so forth on our page wellthatscool.com . Its sort of a Tuscaloosa version of Wayne’s world with a really good events calender.

by chinesedentist on Apr 7, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll ditto the terrapin.

LOVE it. I drink it all the time up here in Pittsburgh (at Hough’s). not sure where else to find it.

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-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Apr 7, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Egan's is the balls

I, for one, love it. Great college bar atmosphere, and the staff is phenomenal. the patrons are fun and knowledgeable, and even though it is packed on gameday, you won’t have a problem seeing or hearing the game.

Plus you get the benefit of hearing the cheers from the stadium a couple of blocks down. Well, I say benefit but CBS provides an annoying delay.

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by BamaReturns07 on Apr 7, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

You've got to get...

…the BBQ Nachos at Big Bad Wolves across the street from Egan’s. It’s not a permanent establishment, just a tent that shows up on game weekends. You will love it though.

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by Nico2.0 on Apr 7, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Nico is right

Not the best example of Southern BBQ, its good just not the best but it is a beacon of light for a hunger that only a game day can bring on, those nachos are the jam.

by chinesedentist on Apr 7, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah...

…definitely not the best…but in terms of “I’ve been drinking all day/night and have been outside for 18 hours straight and it’s 2am and I’m hungry”…it’s essential dining.

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by Nico2.0 on Apr 7, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

now now

I believe your hate is misplaced sir. I see nothing but respect and goodhearted fun. If thats what you intended my bad. I just think the whole all Alabamians are slack jawed yokels is played out. We look forward to welcoming y’all.

by chinesedentist on Apr 7, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

but you tried

and that’s what really matters.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You will have a good time..

In Tuscaloosa and like I said there will be idiots but I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised in the knowledge of a lot of the fan base. I pride myself on getting to know the other sides perspective and learning where they come from. This is doubled when we host another great program like PSU.

by chinesedentist on Apr 7, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you're not like Ohio State fans?

That’s already a positive check mark for Bama.

by Cairo on Apr 7, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope not

I don’t know your opinion on them but this kind of reminds me of the home and home we had with OK several years back. Great fans traditional football power a great time was had by all.

by chinesedentist on Apr 7, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish PSU would do it more often.

Series against Rutgers, Virginia, and Syracuse don’t have the resonance of Alabama or Nebraska. Even non-traditional powers can be great if they bring a fun environment and strong fan support like Oregon State did in Happy Valley a few years ago.

by Cairo on Apr 7, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your right..

The problem we have is that we’ve been doing the neutral site games which are all fine and good but as a native Tuscaloosa resident it kind of takes away from the college town field trip vibe I love so much from going to away games. It also means less of a boom for the local economy.

by chinesedentist on Apr 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

But I want more games with COASTAL CAROLINA!

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

Way to get extra mileage.

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by jtothep on Apr 7, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct...

…we can actually beat SEC teams.

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by Nico2.0 on Apr 7, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Crap.

Read that as “You’re not like Ohio State” at first…so my response doesn’t make as much sense. Oh well, it’s still fun to bag on the Buckeyes.

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by Nico2.0 on Apr 7, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

No Need, Sir

We knew what you meant. Please bag away…

Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.

by WestPointLion on Apr 7, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or an Iowa fan.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still, LOL

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by BamaReturns07 on Apr 7, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

green'd

We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.

by psuwxman on Apr 7, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is kinda sad, actually. I know some barely high-school educated Auburn alums who have better material.

Also, you’ns in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

shoot

I thought discarded banjo strings was a nice touch.

by Cairo on Apr 7, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tread lightly with the NCAA stuff

…unless you want things to move out of the “good natured fun” arena — some folks are a bit sensitive about that sort of thing.

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I work with two Auburn grads and a Mississippi State grad

plus I’ve worked at LSU, Vandy, and Kentucky. There probably isn’t anything I haven’t heard about Bama.

by Cairo on Apr 7, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like you are involved

with a lot of manual labor.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

...and bestiality....

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Apr 7, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

and having sex with animals

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by The Voice of Reason on Apr 8, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

PORKING

the PIGLETS

Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren

by animalcracker on Apr 8, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Ralph Lauren.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate yanks.

Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren

by animalcracker on Apr 8, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, hell, I'm already over 1000

My work is already done

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about

soft tugs?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh, and: it was awfully hurtful for you to suggest that we wouldn’t take better care of our banjos than that.

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 7, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

All those questions can be answered for you...

Just please when you come don’t open up your carpet bag and start trying to sell us snake oil and herbal health remedies made by some indian tribe from the mid-west. We will be eating, drinking, gawking and trying to get ready for the event at hand.

by String30 on Apr 7, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

...that's "Mizzourahh"...

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by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 7, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have just now decided to booby trap the visiting sections with punji sticks

I’ve baited them with hair gel

drunk comment of the week: Stop talking about Nick Saban's crotch

by Wallacewade04 on Apr 7, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could you indicate which roads are paved in Alabama? I don’t want my pricey luxury automobile sullied with a mixture of dirt, poultry waste, and discarded banjo strings.

you drive yourself? plebian.

Do you have an interpretive tour of all of the book stores where NCAA recruiting violations occurred? How much is an English-speaking guide? How much is an English-speaking guide that pronounces things correctly and refrains from using phrases like "yonder there"?

we defer to auburn in such matters. they are the acknowledged experts in this area of study.

Why does Paul Finebaum insist on only putting taking calls from the most educated, well-thought, insightful persons from the state of Alabama? I want to know what the common man thinks.

thank god you haven’t found the message boards.

Does the war eagle come out before the game or at halftime? I want to be sure to be in my seat when it’s flying about.

sorry, that’s some other team. you’ll just have to make do with this.

If PSU loses, can we blame it on not having a week off before playing the Crimson Tide?

no. you can chalk it up to The Process.

What should I say to defend Penn State when the diehard Alabama fan who bags my groceries starts talking smack? (this one is actually 100% true)

doesn’t matter. just make sure to call him “sir.”

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Question about the jet flying overhead in your video:

did the bomb bay doors fail to open due to human error or mechanical failure?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The big plane wasn’t a bomber, and the other two were F-15s which were built under the policy of “Not a pound for air-to-ground”.

Should have sent an Apache.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

An Apache?

But he can no longer “grow big”…

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 7, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what she said.

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Apr 7, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finebaum

To really enjoy Finebaum, first you must realize that he is a master at trolling. That is where all of the fun is.

by pezking on Apr 7, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now Pawl, Pawwwwwwwl!

Do you believe that Nick Saban is the living embodiment of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, ‘cause I believe he is. I’ll hold on the line and listen’ to your response.

by Cairo on Apr 7, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Its fun to listen to it now with the constant Auburn bashing, but when we were down, he let Alabama fans have it on the constant. We just dont have anyone as annoying as Charles from Reeltown…now that Phyllis from Mulga has disappeared.

Check out the Iron Bowl Montage from the 2008 section, it is a classic.

by pezking on Apr 7, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

another dining suggestion

rama jama’s across from the stadium. it’s got all the memorabilia and atmosphere you’ll be looking to take pictures of and show to your amazed friends back home. but they also make a mean breakfast as well. brave the line and fill up at the start of gameday and you’ll be set to begin a day of serious drankin’ and carryin’ on.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

boy howdy

I do love carryin’ on and don’t get me started on the drankin’. Cairo I did kind of chuckle at the banjo strings.

by chinesedentist on Apr 7, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies about the banjo strings

I confused Alabama with Arkansas. Anyone who’s driven to Fayetteville can understand the concern.

by Cairo on Apr 7, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know you've not been to Fayetteville...

…or else you purchased another high dollar vehicle with the insurance monies.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 7, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

also....

Dreamland is the most famous BBQ staple in T-town, but serious BBQ fans might want to compare that with Archibald’s…it is a BBQ joint run out of the dude’s garage, but it is absolutely amazing

by pezking on Apr 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude

I keep passing by that every day on my way home but I haven’t tried it yet. I’ve been otherwise disappointed with the BBQ selection in town… I need to check this out.

by billycthulhu on Apr 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

its the one on MLK its a cinder block shack

Its scary as hell but the BBQ will bring a tear to a glass eye. Just thinking of the sauce gives me a soft on.

by chinesedentist on Apr 7, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

how old is the pit?

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

….unless the pit was rebuilt, I believe he started with his wife in 1962.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 7, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn. that's pretty sweet.

i’ll definitely be stopping by when i’m in town.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

…gotta give Todd Blackledge some props, when he did taste of the town and rolled by the joint, it was great. Can only hope it boosted sales.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 7, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd like "taste of the town" a hell of a lot more

if they didn’t run it during key plays of important drives.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blackledge has a habit of ruining important drives in Alabama

But, he sure could make amends.

Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.

by WestPointLion on Apr 8, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

But, Kizner Doesn't have as much gusto for regional foods.

At least I don’t think so. I haven’t seen a recent picture.

Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.

by WestPointLion on Apr 8, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

What was "85" for on the helmets?

Did we forget what year it was?

Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.

by WestPointLion on Apr 8, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you do this on google street view ..

and twist around and such you can see it,well the sign more then it.
1318 Martin Luther King Jr Blvd, Northport, AL, United States .
Its a tiny cinder block place behind the sign. The real address is 1211 MLK Boulevard Northport, Alabama 35476. Don’t confuse this place with woodrows , Archibald’s different place

by chinesedentist on Apr 8, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

You’d think Skins4ever had stopped by.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

...kinda hard to 'catch-up' in the midst of 270 comments!

> but I’m trying…

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by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 7, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

not if we found a way to knock colt mccoy out of the game early.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that makes Alabama the Northwestern of national championship games.

The game doesn’t count if you injure the star QB. Everybody knows that.

by The Mexican't on Apr 7, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

just Alabama

jAU?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the problem.

If a team takes out the Manzi, they have to deal with the Mandenberg.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

as the BHGP guys put it...

the first to two points would be declared the winner.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry.

I couldn’t resist. I opted against the photo so as not to ruin the Alabama-PSU HATE.

by The Mexican't on Apr 7, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH SNAP GO HAWKS.

(No, seriously, please leave us alone. We’re tired of this.)

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 7, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

...as usual; right!

When in doubt, TANGENT!

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by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another question:

Is James Ingram your Heisman Trophy winning RB or is he the guy that sang “Ya Mo Be There” with Michael McDonald? I get them confused.

by Cairo on Apr 7, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i take it this is the reason

you guys didn’t recruit him.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I have to hear "Ya Mo Be there" one more time

Ya Mo bring a gun into the store and shoot everyone

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by Roland86 on Apr 7, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer “Somewhere out There” with Linda Rondstadt

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by letsgopsu on Apr 7, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

*queue up the debate of Warren Zevon

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by AlabamaJammer on Apr 7, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is no debate.

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by kleph on Apr 7, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

"...send lawyers, guns and $$$..."

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 7, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

the title of mine will be “Thank God for Penicillin”

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by Wallacewade04 on Apr 7, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

by psupride on Apr 8, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies.

Just figured there would be some contrarian viewpoints. God knows they should be drawn and quartered. Warren would have wanted it that way.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 7, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

imo...

…being a resident of tuscaloosa for the last five years, i have a few revisions. the strip isn’t really the place to go party anymore. the current university pres. did his damn best to shut the strip down so daddy’ll feel okay sending his daughter to college, since the strip is so close to campus. he failed, but he definitely made a dent. egan’s is certainly a dive, and the houndstooth is certainly loaded with frat boys. other than that, the rest of the bars on or near the strip (also) suck, with the possible exception of the red shed. down the road about a mile is “downtown” or the “temerson square” area. that’s where the vast majority of bars are in tuscaloosa these days.

also, dreamland’s overrated. full moon and mike and ed’s are both easier to get to and, in my opinion, better. the rest i agree with.

by joshoohahh on Apr 7, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Or ignoring Archibalds.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 7, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

…on Dreamland; if you’ve only been sampling it for five years, then you’ve not enjoyed the real Dreamland. Since the old man passed and his little girl took over, it’s gone to pot. It’s added a bunch of junk to what was a simple menu and a great place to eat.

No sir, I would say you haven’t had Dreamland, but some amalgam of poorly cooked and placed food. Wander over to Archibalds unless you can’t stand a good vinegar sauce.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 7, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe that's why I don't like Dreamland

But like it or not, it seems that IS what Dreamland is now. I do plan to visit Archibalds after I take my comps… I love a good vinegar sauce

by billycthulhu on Apr 8, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dreamland in Tuscaloosa is more of a novelty now

Dreamland in Huntsville, mmmm half-chicken, mmmmmmm marinated smoked sausage(half of pound of it), mmmmmmmmmmmm nanner puddin’. I have always thought their ribs were so-so, especially compared to Sticky Fingers Memphis dry rub.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Apr 8, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

its just hard to get from downtown to the game

thats why I’ve always said strip before and downtown after

by chinesedentist on Apr 8, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

you also have to remember...

a lot of folks from out of town want a place close by to drown their sorrows/enjoy the victory that has a flavor of the place. these recommendations are not tips for t-towners on where to go drink and not mess with all the nonsense.

that’s the strip.

but blaming dr. witt is kind of missing the point. alabama football has always been a big deal in tuscaloosa but now its a big business as well. until the last quarter century half the home games were played in birmingham. as BDS has expanded and television has brought more dollars into the mix, tuscaloosa has boomed as well.

and for old bastards like me, the strip was the only place back in the day. you didn’t really have a choice about where to go drinking. and you sure as hell didn’t need a sign telling you when you had arrived there.

the strip, by virtue of it’s proximity to the stadium has changed as well. if it’s become more of a gameday disneyland catering to the tourists (and that includes former students like myself who return for the games) then that’s because they have the $ to spend and the various establishments recognize that – not some administration-driven conspiracy against the old guard.

but that’s part of why i like egans so much. you can swoop through the houndstooth and get a flavor of the full on spectacle of the modern strip, stop by a few other nice enough places and then park yourself at a place just scroungy enough everyone is pretty cool to hang out with.

and if there are any middle-aged nittany lion fan that remembers that road trip to tuscaloosa in the mid-1980s and wants to revisit this or that bar he stopped into all those years ago. they will be unlikely to find it but if they go to egans, squint a bit and get two or three beers in – it’ll hit them. i promise.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I refuse to believe that going to a football game in the south

required 400 comments.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I am more or less a typical yankee, just for the record. Which can be confusing because I HATE HATE HATE the yankees.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec for that, sir.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

About 150 were a confusing debate between Junny and the State of Alabama (which was inevitable).

Then another 100-150 were tangents. So it’s not as bad as you say.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I maintain it was a friendly debate over semantics.

Confusing? Yes. A tangent? Yes. Arbitraily marked historical waypoints? Yes. So, all in all, a successful internet debate.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with your subject line.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I tried to follow this for about 75 comments and got lost. My impression was basically that Junny was trying to make a reasonable point that he’s not really interested in what happened before modern football, to which bama fans did the thing I used to when I was a kid: innocently asking “why?” To which Junny should have just responded “because the sky is blue” or something. I’m still not really sure where that was suppose to be going. Bama fans respect the 1910s, PSU fans are indifferent even though we have the same (or at least “a similar”) kind of success. Which is fine, on both ends.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

…difference between history and revisionist history, sir.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

who's which?

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

the more I read this the more I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

BEST. THREAD. EVER.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

You clearly mean

best non-in-game-open-thread ever, right?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um.

I dunno. Watching my online nemesis Junny go up against an entire State is kinda fun, you know?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which one?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gradulations.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Corch Meyer's biggest fan?

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Apr 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, she should be a blast to work with

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Apr 8, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot wait until September.

Next year should be fun too.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a slightly different take on it:

“I don’t like championships that happened before a year that I will not define because they didn’t have facemasks before then. What’s that? They did? Well, I like that arbitrary year anyway because it was significantly before PSU’s first claimed title and, therefore, only serves to lessen the gap between other teams who claim more titles and my team, and if you try to ask me to clarify or justify or explain, I’ll just say we should agree to disagree, but that you are wrong.”

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I regret getting involved in this.

I don’t see how Junny’s timeline has anything to do with PSU’s success. He didn’t call modern football 1980, and although I didn’t read that whole strong of nonsense, I don’t think “agree to disagree” was ever followed by wrong.

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by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s just awfully convenient that none of PSU’s titles are in any way impacted by his arbitrary pick. Makes me wonder if it would be the same if PSU claimed a title from the 20’s. (My guess: no way in hell)

But, yeah, the “agree to disagree” was never followed DIRECTLY by that, but it always came.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW, I’m willing to bet Junny’s decision has less to do with ’Bama, and more to do with Pitt trying to claim 437 championships from that era.

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like projecting opinions on others

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should stop by Roll Bama Roll, we have some commenters who do NOTHING BUT that.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

But there are PSU titles back then.

We just don’t claim 7 titles like Pitt does (or whatever their exorbitant number is). I thought I made it pretty clear why I chose the ~1950 start point, but I’m not starting this back up.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

too late

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I didn't start it back up. Kevin did.

And its nice to have someone see where I’m coming from. Thanks Kevin. You’re a gentleman and a scallop.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

The BHGP suck it dog.

BEST THREAD EVAR! EVAR

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate that damn thing.

How does it constantly find its way into every thread on SBN?

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You made it clear that you had no real rationale for it. The one tangible thing you mentioned was “facemasks”, which were almost immediately demonstrated to predate your supposed birth of “modern” football.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're kind of crazy and also making things up.

Penn State has 7 undefeated seasons before 1930. If he claims they are all MNCs, does that somehow validate his decision to not care about football before 1950 (or whenever he picked).

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Undefeated seasons are not championship seasons, no matter how much you might want them to be.

Just ask Boise State or Utah.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

or us

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many undefeated seasons does Bama have before 1930

in which you don’t claim an MNC?

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by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was referring to the infamous 1966 season

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just looked it up

Bama has zero undefeated seasons, in it’s history, in which you don’t claim an MNC.

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by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is fine by me.

I’d do the same.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you don't Rambler

in all our historical debates, I’ve never heard you talk about the glorious championships of 1887, 1894, 1909, 1911, 1912 and 1921.

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by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, fine, I don't.

Whatever.

I guess I really don’t care about this debate.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just blown away by it, I guess.

It’s all so, serious.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, The Dark Knight was on TV yesterday.

Call it inspiration.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea but when we go undefeated

people notice

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by Wallacewade04 on Apr 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

1897

ahem

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by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

1966 is not one of the 13 claimed

Although I would rather us claim it than ’41

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Apr 8, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a silly argument. Going undefeated doesn’t make a title. Going undefeated doesn’t make it NOT a title, either… which it seems that you are implying.

If you think we have seasons that are, on their merit (rather than on some arbitrary timeline), not legitimate titles, let’s talk about those.

if you think there are years Penn State deserves a title… claim them. You’ll hear no argument from us.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

you'll note those first three are also seasons

we won the rose bowl. which was the de facto “championship game” of the era. how many has penn state won?

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Won it in (19)94

And we all know how that turned out.

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Apr 8, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

just one?

dear lord. even tennessee has more than that.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was a bias against Eastern football.

They were too afraid to bring us out west. Just ask the 1912 Ohio State Buckeyes.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, they gave us that crap as well...

till we pounded some sense into them.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot 1945 too.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then you two historians

can go correct this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_Crimson_Tide_football#National_championships

I’m moving on to making fun of Iowa to compensate for the (real, not mythical) heartache they’ve caused me for two years running.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean that list under the giant heading “National Championship Seasons” which clearly does not include 1966 or 1945?

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was looking at the chart, so, uh, sorry?

Sue me for not seeing that list and thinking you all might actually claim that many MNCs. I’ve spent 15 minutes on this and I’m over it. It’s been insightful, though, in terms of culture.

I still want to know what this means, though:

…difference between history and revisionist history, sir.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

My best guess:

He is suggesting that we’re just reporting the things that happened, while y’all are going back and adding/removing elements to make it more palatable to you.

I think it’s a way of saying “OUR version of history is the RIGHT one, yours is clearly WRONG.”

So… NANNY-NANNY-BOO-BOO

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't think I ever said my view was RIGHT and yours was WRONG.

I was explaining my viewpoint. Obviously, you don’t have to agree.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t talking about you — was trying to answer Kevin’s question as to what my compatriot meant by this comment.

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by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Winner! Winner! Chicken dinner!

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

1930?

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

wiki says your media guide claims one in 1930.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m wondering why you picked that year.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bottom line point is that if you want to try to take away decades of titles from teams other than your own, you need more than “I like that date” as rationale. The inability to even pick a specific year, let alone ability/willingness define what constitutes “modern football” in any meaningful way makes it pretty weak. If this were a more hateful discussion, I’d assume that he was doing it just so that the “other side” had no counters, because it’s a pretty weaselly way to present an argument. I suspect, though, that it’s just an issue of having never really put a lot of thought into it.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

and relying on a humorous tangent

rather than responding to the point in question is the mark of a weak argument.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lincoln-Douglas'd?

See my argument, supra. I’m not going to rehash all of this.

This smells of a great pre-game roundtable. We can revisit it then when I’ve had time to clearly lay out my proposal for an argument, and highlighted bullet points for your approval.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I have put thought into it.

And thought I made a pretty clear explanation. But its ok.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAIL! to the Bama valiant! Hail! to the something Bama! Hail! Hail! to something something Bama beat the Duke guy!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your argument has been clear, but not at all specific.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's pretty fair to start that debate around 1955

when the networks started allowing multiple televised games (8) per week. This is the first real point in which polls became less arbitrary/regional (although still very much so) because voters were exposed to schools they had only previously heard about. Just my two cents (and for the record, my school [Iowa]) has exactly 0 MNC, so I have nothing to gain here).

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pfft.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

As people? Thanks.

In the head? ARE YOU FUCKING DRUNK? (hey, do they swear on this site?)

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw that and was disgusted

until HS’s “It’s not plagiarism…” post from this morning invoked the same logic to support our wrestling team. (sigh)

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, Kyle, I'm not sure what you mean.

Could you quote this for me?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its section header is "Rebuilding is for suckas"

and is technically quoting Minnesota’s coach, but is obviously posted in support of this concept.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Know what, I support it.

BSD. YOU ALL JUS HATE IOWA CUZ WE AWESOME.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nevermind, I get it.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

We try to keep it to a minimum

but at this point, your comment is likely to be lost amongst the mass amounts of other fun going on in here.

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA!

I’m so disoriented by this thread that I actually thought I was on “Roll ’Bama Roll” (seriously)

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

the links are in red on RBR.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

CRIMSON, DAMMIT

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm bringing Prince into it.

Does he belong to a race?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks, but no

texas is pissed off with us enough as it is.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, since we're here

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since we're here?

When are we not “here”?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

You've mistaken my comment.

These threads often descend into tongue-in-cheek accusations of racism. I live in one of the country’s most segregated cities.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you may have missed something.

Or maybe I’m confused.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, man

The royal “we”, you know, the editorial…

…oh dear, I’ve lost myself again…

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, you little VC loving punk, when we were in the shit in the Nam

We had to wear underwear so the VC couldn’t smell us.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

NO LEBOWSKI REFERENCES

that way leads to darkness…

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

False.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, but only because I've never seen Big Lebowski.

Dont’ tell BHGP that, or they’ll ban me.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Neither Have I.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

by Roland86 on Apr 8, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh. Kids these days.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

You need to stop what youre doing right now and watch it.

Shit will change your life.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doubt it.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

by Roland86 on Apr 8, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've know this about you for some time

as you have never once followed a Lebowski quote with an accompanying quote.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I figured as much.

You’re too smart for me, McCann’t.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

are robots not programmed to laugh?

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

by psupride on Apr 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do androids dream of electric sheep?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

They’re programmed t- YOUR MOM

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

My dead mom?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Titles...

prior to racial integration shouldn’t count in any sport. Does anybody really care how many MNC’s a school claims or won or whatever? I only really care about who wins this September.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

Ah, beer, my one weakness. My Achille's heel, if you will. - HJS

by Esteban d' Amur on Apr 8, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04

by The Voice of Reason on Apr 8, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that's what we get after OOC of

Syracuse, Temple, Directional Midwestern State…

Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.

by WestPointLion on Apr 8, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're big rivals

of the Ivan Brothers’ school…

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

you need at least 400

to give enough respect to that ESS EEE SEE SPEED

SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC! SEC!

(little fact: this chant was invented to cause aneurysms for yankees)

drunk comment of the week: Tim Tebow bless my bowling ball

by Wallacewade04 on Apr 8, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why are you shouting?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love lamp

and am happy to state it in a calm voice.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

DO IT!

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I SAY SEGREGATION NOW, SEGREGATION TOMORROW, SEGREGATION FOREVER!

Huh, that was easy.

/Wallace’d

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

now that you mention that...

the university is in the process of restoring foster auditorium where the “stand in the schoolhouse door” occurred. if you’d like to stop there during your visit we’ll check on if it is open.

http://tour.ua.edu/tourstops/foster.html

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will not be stopping down

as I am an Iowa fan. My uncle (who is a preacher in Anniston) is considering it, though. I’ll let him know. Thanks for the tip.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

if i'm not mistaken...

they are looking to incorporate some kind of way to recognize the importance of the event. i wouldn’t say a memorial but some way to indicate the importance of what happened to the civil rights struggle. you have to remember, the university was complying with the order to admit the students but the governor used it as a way to make a political statement.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Forrest Gump was there

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by Roland86 on Apr 8, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

winston groom incorporated the event

into his novel which was later used in the film. i actually would urge to to pick up the book and read it if you are planning to go to tuscaloosa for the game and are not familiar with alabama.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhat familiar, although I likely wont be going.

I have family there, Helena I believe. I nearly had to move there after the 8th grade. Thank goodness.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

by Roland86 on Apr 8, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm completely aware of the circumstances

no need to defend, just having fun with you.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

i understand

but it is an excellent suggestion for folks that are interested in things to see while in tuscaloosa. as controversial as the incident is, it is undeniably of historical importance.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank god this thread is here so everyone will be able to find that suggestion.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank god this thread is here so everyone will be able to find that suggestion.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 8, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God you repeated it

so we couldn’t miss it.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

as i mentioned in the first post

we’ll most likely put together a visitors guide to t-town the week of the game. this thread is for folks making longer-term plans – you know, the type of die-hard zealots that will dig through 500-post threads for info like this.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

You must not be familiar with BSD or BHGP

you know, the type of die-hard zealots that will dig through 500-post threads for info like this

because that’s most of them.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i live in one of the world’s most segregated cities.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where?

Cape Town?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

lima, peru

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's Dawson's River.

Ten Things I Hate About You’d!

Black Shoe Diaries
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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a bad flick. Slowly rising my Best RomCom List.

And its based on the Bard. So there’s that.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Robert Burns?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

My wife tried to watch it the other day.

Made it ten minutes into it and remarked “guess this was a lot better when I was 22”

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

update on the foster auditorium renovations

from today’s Crimson & White (the UA student newspaper):

The UA System Board of Trustees is set to approve the final design of the Malone Hood Plaza at Foster Auditorium, which will serve as an entrance to Foster as well as a commemoration of the building’s history.

The design will include the 40-foot Autherine Lucy clock tower at the center of the plaza with plaques around the base to tell the history of the Stand, the integration, Autherine Lucy Foster, Vivian Malone Jones and James Hood.

Foster was the first black student to be admitted to the University in 1956, but was later expelled over safety concerns by UA officials. The plaza is named for Jones, the first black student to graduate from the University, and Hood, who was admitted in 1963 along with Jones.

If this passes work will occur over the summer and should be completed by october. so it might not be open when the penn state game occurs. as we’ve mentioned before, let us know if you are interested in this and we’ll keep tabs for you.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn't left Anniston yet?

That has quickly became the crime capital of the state. Ever sinced Ft McClellan shut down, Anniston has become a hellhole. Oxford is booming though.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Apr 8, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fully aware of this

although he has to go where his Parrish places him. It’s not like he can switch denominations for lateral mobility.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then who did he piss off?

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Apr 8, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

God?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does say that he is a vengeful God.

I feel for your uncle. I work in Anniston but I live 65 miles Northeast of that cesspool.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Apr 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's glad to be anywhere that enables him to golf year-round.

He’s used to hibernating for the winter as he lived in Iowa for the first 48 years of his life.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The South Shall Rise a Blood Clot in Your Brain!

drunk comment of the week: Tim Tebow bless my bowling ball

by Wallacewade04 on Apr 8, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

“We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren’t nearly as tough as us and you know it showed.”

/tony hunt’d

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

if you speak well of Auburn you do have to commit ritualistic suicide

drunk comment of the week: Tim Tebow bless my bowling ball

by Wallacewade04 on Apr 8, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

paintball

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Apr 8, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ROR

Black Shoe Diaries
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by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hirarious.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

…it always goes back to this. Ad hominem anyone?

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or in Marge Schott interviews...

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

…but they’re all as much dispicible as playing the race card to stop debate.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ad hominem arguments are invalid (I’m not sure what “false” means in this context) because they draw on irrelevant data (who the author is) to try to logically dispute the content of the author’s argument. What the author says is either correct or incorrect without regard for his/her personal preferences or traits.

So, yeah, ad hominem arguments are “false” insomuch as they (by definition) argue that a person’s argument is incorrect because that person has some trait.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 9, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, Roland

You just got Junny’d.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vietnam or Korea?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ossetia.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jacobites

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

…look. I see it like this. You come into my front yard and say we better do what you say cause you have guns, I’m going to shoot first too.

Next you’ll say some poor thug shot in someone’s house was the fault of the homeowner for having enticing goods inside to draw the perp into a deadly situation. Egads!

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

can’t do this here. sorry.

I know about your diabolical plan.

by KevinHD on Apr 8, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need to ask you Bama guys some questions about your blog:

a) Do you have a Devon? A guy who likes to swear and is obnoxious to fellow users?
b) Do you have a FireJayPa? A guy who likes to tell others not to swear, while swearing himself. I.e. a hypocrite.
c) Do you have lots of tangents? Bacon-y tangents?
d) Do you have several posters with user names that follow a pattern of letters and numbers? Do these posters all seem to say the same thing?
e) Do you like naked mole rats?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I know one thing. They DON'T have a Zug.

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

by Roland86 on Apr 8, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

- how could he forget!?

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 9, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

DO YOU LIKE SELENA GOMEZ?????!!!!

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Apr 8, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll answer what I can

c) manna from heaven specificaly isn’t a tangent, but it does have bacon-y goodness, and lard cooked fries references
e) depends on if the sheep are sheared or not.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

600

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we get it up to a 1000?

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

by psupride on Apr 8, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like living with a six-year old

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

…no, a Three Amigos callback.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

tee hee hee

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminds me

of this.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

be lee

dat!

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 on misspelling Lynyrd.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neil Young was right

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

by psupride on Apr 8, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

…..Southern man don’t need him around, anyhow.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You take that back!

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

…and now you’re going to expect me to believe your definition of terrible includes an irate warmongering Gene Hackman locked in an underwater metal tube full of seamen and nuclear missles facing off against a Hippie Malcom X first mate. It’s a powerful metaphor dude. Its about sexual assault, interracial relationships, huge propellers, sonar. You just gotta soak it in, man. Think Hunt for Red October meets Do the Right Thing meets Woody Allen or something.

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 8, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

false

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

See my above response to Junny.

I want 1000.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine

just don’t go spouting falsehoods. bryant did, in fact, wrestle a bear. but he was the second alabama coach with the nickname “bear”

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little Round Top.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Italian QBs > Bama bangs.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Bama bangs > Italians

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

…and I simply don’t care. 1k is all we’re after, right?

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It must be done in style

or it doesn’t count.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies...

…I’ll grab some hair gel and see if I can style my hair.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did they name "Wally World" for him?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

They named “You suck, but at least you beat Michigan twice World” after him.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes all that counts is beating your rival.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does at Iowa State.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

When is the last time the Cyclones knicked the Hawkeyes?

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

2007

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Texas

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

East or West?

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coastal...

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, seriously, east NC and west NC have two different styles and sauces… I’m more of a west NC fan myself.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aware

just love mocking made-up parts of states to name universities after: See Iowa, Upper.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Touche. Took it as an answer, but then again the coast is on the east… LOL

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just so vague

Florida Atlantic also comes to mind as well as the University of the Pacific…is it in Atlantis?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 9, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

SOUTH Carolina

mustard sauce, represent!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

but if you remove their colt mccoy

they are completely harmless.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What about

their Drew Brees?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

/end thread

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then you beat John Cooper.

Not that that’s a big deal.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

...I don't think much of 'Hoosier's neither...

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 8, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn! wrong movie!

Say friend, your a mighty curious type, where are you from…

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 8, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care you say.

I’m going to pretend it was an actual bear. Not a HOCKEYBEAR, but a bear nonetheless.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was "Bear" for this:

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

*queue up a pic of pink assless chaps

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please do not.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iowa corn > Alabama corn

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Hawkeye Vodka?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually made in Finland.

Cheap Finnish vodka.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or just cheap finish...

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pittsburgh is the Birmingham of the north.

No wonder everyone left Pittsburgh.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Birmingham doesn't have the charm

God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Apr 8, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

…nor the pollution.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or the six rings.

Or the Stanley Cup.

Or gosh, even Honus Wagner.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, I'm not a Pennsylvanian/PSU fan

and I must say I like Pittsburgh. Hell, just by virtue of having PNC Park that city is more alluring to me than Birmingham (AL or UK)

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Birmingham and Pittsburgh are Twin Cities.

“You’ll love our abandoned steel mills!”

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their soccer teams are equals...

Oh, you hear that Aston VIlla!?! Burned!!!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soccer is like hockey

but cared about by people from inside and outside the Arctic Circle.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

SOCCER IS NOTHING LIKE HOCKEY YOU TAKE THAT BACK

Except for the hooligans at Flyers games.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s more like hockey that they both suck watching through the TV.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you're southern.

I wouldn’t expect you to understand. If only Gary Bettman understood it…

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn you commercials!

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like NASCAR

although that sucks live, too, so nevermind.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, give them time. I’m sure Birmingham can become even more of a cesspool than it presently is.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alabama fans like puns.

Tuscaloosa? Elephant mascot? Get it? TUSCaloosa?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

tuscaloosa was incorporated in 1819

the elephant wasn’t the mascot until 1979

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

And?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

post hoc ergo procter hoc.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

convivite nudem!

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

…alright, one I’ve never heard of, and google isn’t leading anywhere. Define please.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Party Naked!

Four years of proud and expensive baccalaureate study provided for this interpretive usage.

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Davey Allison was freaking awesome.

Discuss.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

NASCAR skills, yes. Helicopter skills...

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

BOOO

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You love me. You really love me.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

What can I say – I’m a sucker for horribly mean jokes at the expense of sports stars I was a fan of.

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel your Payne Stewart.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

man that sucks the wind right out of you

I'm sorry, Bruce. These boys get that syrup in 'em, they get all antsy in their pantsy. Captain O'Hagan

by psu in the w-b on Apr 8, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Bryant'

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn!

And Bryant’s fist instantly became racist just from touching it.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.

by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess there's no stopping it now.

Of course it “stopped” awhile ago, so…

Black Shoe Diaries
Success With Honor

by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

ouch

I'm sorry, Bruce. These boys get that syrup in 'em, they get all antsy in their pantsy. Captain O'Hagan

by psu in the w-b on Apr 8, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it's not that civilized.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boom. Roasted?

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Griddled.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The North's U.S. Grant

was emotionless killing machine.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’ll tout a guy from ohio as your champion in this argument? sad…

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He retired to Illinois

where I’m from.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

He won, didn’t he? Against an SEC bunch too.

Plus Hancock was the best general on our side and he was from Pennsylvania.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness, Grant fought on the Western Front through much of the war

which means there were plenty of SWC interlopers (Texas and Arkansas [they’ll always be more SWC than SEC]).

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont forget Meade Reynolds Gibbon webb vincent and a few others but The superb was clearly the best

I'm sorry, Bruce. These boys get that syrup in 'em, they get all antsy in their pantsy. Captain O'Hagan

by psu in the w-b on Apr 8, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Saban is not?

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was after the 2005 Capital One Bowl!

Boom! Hawkeye’d!

Give me a high five, McCan’t!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was B.C. (before Crimson)

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding? He was full of emotion after that game.

“I can’t wait to get on the plane to Miami where I’ll get paid like a king and establish myself as the greatest coach of all time in any sport! Mememememememe!”

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

[Citation needed]

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm telepathic.

Footnote: Me.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Halsey was so rash he just had to have been from Alabama.

No, I retract that. I would never insult a state by comparing their citizens to Halsey.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

(sigh)

This thread is dying. YOU HEAR ME RAMBLER?!? YOU’RE KILLING THIS THREAD!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

…more like it’s on life support.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Professional wrestling?

Hacksaw Jim Dugan is a true American. Also, I miss the Bushwackers.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, where's the controversy?

Now if you were to tell me the Rockers were the greatest tag team ever then we’d have a debate on our hands.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You go to hell! You go to hell and you die!

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That also won't get much debate here.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE MISSSION IS OVER, RAMBLER!

NOTHING IS OVER, TRAUTMAN! NOTHING!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heinz 57 doubles as a bad bbq sauce and the mark of the devil.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

try mixxing it with honey not to bad that way

I'm sorry, Bruce. These boys get that syrup in 'em, they get all antsy in their pantsy. Captain O'Hagan

by psu in the w-b on Apr 8, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Restuarant owner. Author.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pat Forde appears before this


in the encyclopedia’s listing of WASP’s.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed Wood was from Alabama.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

This is actually true

and awesome.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tom Watson is the clubhouse leader in Augusta.

Tiger will miss the cut on purpose so he can scout the “talent” in Georgia.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

If by scout you mean

Tapped that ass!

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hate Gump.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear sir,

no one really hates Gump…

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 8, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Gump

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seconded.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think YOU hate gump?

THERE IS NO GREENBOWL ALABAMA

and no if I’m going somehwere I actually drive, I have no intentions of RUN-NING

I have a degree from the university of Alabama, he wouldn’t have gotten one

drunk comment of the week: Tim Tebow bless my bowling ball

by Wallacewade04 on Apr 8, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's your 40 time?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS!

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 8, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah dude, when I’m traveling and I mention I’m from Alabama and someone says some Gump reference, I’m just like, yep, BOX OF CHOCOLATES, lets talk about something less painful, like racism or the Tuskegee experiments!

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 8, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm from Chicago

and everytime I’ve told someone this in another part of the world, the first thing I hear about is Al Capone. Really? Is that what we’re still known for?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say the Chicago Fire

is less famous the world over than our gangster culture. Not many memorable movies on the fire…

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the namesake of the local MLS franchise.

Are you implying that MLS is not world reknown, sir?

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask a Brit who Brian McBride went to play for after Fulham

and they’ll respond, “he’s still playing?”

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would ask you if you ever met Blago or if you know Obama.

Have you ever met Blago? Do you know Obama?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blago lives five blocks from me.

And he looks super-funny when he jogs.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just the ones

who move here and “claim” the Cubs because of the party atmosphere around Wrigley, don’t know shit about the history and don’t pay attention to the games. Actual fans, like myself, generally abhor the idea of living in Wrigleyville.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The in line merging with the out line

to the pisser at Wrigley is an American sports classic. This is why Olde Style was created.

Are we to 1000 yet?

Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.

by WestPointLion on Apr 8, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Wrigley and its quaintness.

The restrooms are not included in this love. One of the reasons I don’t drink at the games.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where'd the Weird Al hate come from?

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

RR is from tha 7 1 7...so

perhaps near Lancaster…therefore…“Aim-ish Paradise”

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Apr 8, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alabama fans hate bacon.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

have you seen our fans??? we ARE bacon!

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 8, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're thinking of Mississippi.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

oohh yeahhh, they can bring it home too

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 8, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just ranked as the fattest state for a second consecutive year

so I’d say they’ve kind of mastered the art.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My mistake

I forgot you’d listed her as a memeber of the JoViet Union.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Da

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I HATE YOU

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you prefer to operate

under false pretenses and foolish assumptions? HOCKEYBEAR clearly crossed the Bering Strait in order to settle in Anchorage and take up his mantle of Destroyer of Worlds/College Towns. Obviously he’s the creation of Soviet science gone awry.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If HOCKEYBEAR is communist, why'd he destroy a SOVIET icebreaker?

Explain that, corn farmer.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because it was harboring political dissidents.

Don’t you get the morning intel reports?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

A SOVIET icebreaker was harboring political dissidents?

WHAT?

And the morning intel reports told me that the Red October sailed from Murmansk last night.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knock knock

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Secret Police.

Da, da, I get, I get.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Let’s try this again.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knock knock.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh...

Who’s there?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defective torpedoes!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

go on.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've sunk my battleship?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

"You've sunk my seawolf class nuclear sub"

doesn’t have the same resonance in pop culture.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it's cooler.

Seawolf subs are very rare, like fine wine or some crap.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

"You look lovely tonight, my dear.

You’ve aged like a Seawolf sub…" Nope, still doesn’t work.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You do know I have a four year old

I could be doing this with and enjoying myself a whole lot more.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bubba Gump Shrimp is overrated

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

by psupride on Apr 8, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Bubba Gump shrimp, the official crustacean of the ACC championship game!

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 8, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

terrible is overrated for that place

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face

by psupride on Apr 8, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have a location on Chicago's Navy Pier.

If you’re gunning for the tourist crowd you’ve pretty much made your own bed.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bubba Gump Shrimp saved my ass in Hong Kong

I wanted authentic, but was by myself, there for only 48hrs, overwhelmed, ignorant (you know, American) and terribly douched up my first attempt at a local food joint. So at the top of the peak tram I find a Bubba Gump Shrimp Company. Couple yankee lagers and a pile a shrimp later, and I was doin alright again.

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no way the thread makes 1000

but it’s only 17 comments shy of 800. Lowering expectations makes reaching goals much easier.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

leave the office to get some actual work done at aroudn 10:30

and at 3:00 people are still yapping

god bless america

drunk comment of the week: Tim Tebow bless my bowling ball

by Wallacewade04 on Apr 8, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on paternity leave

what’s your excuse?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, you get paternity leave?

Is it paid paternity leave?

Also, congratulations on the apparently recent newborn.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's paid

in that I get to use all my vacation time. But, no, Illinois has pretty sub-par labor laws; paid paternity is something I’d only get in California…or all of Western Europe.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are in an Alabama thread talking about “sub-par labor laws”???! we started a war over our “sub-par labor laws”!!

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 8, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

How'd that work out for you?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty crappy, but we are making progress on our sub-par beer laws. Next up, legalizing vibrators.

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 8, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Beer Advocate (shameless plug)

and I’ve been following and am very pleased with your progress on beer laws. Iowa still has some ABV caps as well, but the tide is shifting. Hell, even Utah has legalized homebrewing!

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

a beer advocate

is that like a drunk who is recognized by the bar?

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tsk, tsk!

Don’t hate on something you’re ignorant of. We’re doing God’s work.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and here you are hatin

on alabama football.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't hate anything about Alabama football.

Find me evidence.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know

if you aren’t going to comply with my sweeping generalizations about your fanbase you are going to take all the fun out of baiting you.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are your generalizations of Iowa fans?

Other than that we’re one of the few in the Big Ten who combine SEC-type fervor sans Michigan/OSU-type arrogance.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's my generalizations for Iowa fans:

like wrestling a little too much.
always have their shirts tucked in.
secretly afraid of Ron Zook

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 8, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Afraid of Ron Zook?

What, that he’ll get hired as an Iowa assistant after he’s fired after this season? And there’s no such thing as liking Iowa wrestling too much. Saying so runs you the risk of having your arms ripped from their sockets.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have such a deep admiration for guys that roll around on the floor with other guys.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You sound like Europeans

who describe American football as men in armor running into one another and then stopping every 10 seconds.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strange when you consider

that I grew up near where they were all filmed.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

its like they’re making biscuits out of people.

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 8, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Them Mormons'll occasionally surprise you

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

no shit.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, kleph

have you tried chichal?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think so

but i’ve had cuy and think it’s great.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, it's Chica, not chical.

It’s the fermented corn drink created by village women sitting in a circle, chewing on corn husks and spitting into a pot. The pot’s contents then ferment and are consumed. Mmmmm!

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. i've had it

chicha is actually any kind of fermented corn drink not just this particular stuff.

in fact, you can buy a crude version of it by the liter in any market to cook with. it’s the key ingredient for cabrito de leche, for example.

about any rural restaurant will offer a slightly more refined version for drinking. in fact, that last picture of the cuy has a glass of chicha behind it.

and then, if you go to the jungle, you can get the stuff you describe. it’s not that bad but doesn’t get you drunk enough to make up for the goofy viscosity. but it’s not even in the ballpark of weird things i’ve eaten here.

there is also chicha morada which is a non-fermented drink made from purple corn that is by far the most popular drink in peru.

but, yeah, i love me some ceviche. and i don’t have to go more than two blocks to get a great big serving of it.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hate you.

I love Latin food culture.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

peru

is simply awesome in terms of food.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm lucky enough to live near three different Peruvian restaurants.

Not as good as the real thing, I’m sure, but few places in the states can make that claim.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they've got actual

aji amarillo to cook with, you’re doing as well as you can expect in the states.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the best one. Take a look and tell me if it looks like I’m getting the real thing.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, judging by the website...

this looks like a mom-and-pop style restaurant making as good a version of these dishes as they can. and, most of the time, that’s about the best you can expect.

the prominent picture of machu picchu on the page is kind of a bad sign. it’s like saying PLEASE EAT HERE GRINGO! most places both here and in the states that serve the best stuff usually eschew this blatant lure.

it looks like they switch out aji amarillo peppers with bannana peppers. this is kind of not good. the former is really the heart of peruvian cuisine. it would be like cooking cajun food without a roux.

still, i’ve found amazing authentic food in less promising locales. so i really can’t tell you if the food is up to snuff or no.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad.

Still, I usually eat blind when I’m there. Any recommendations?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh...

nazca intaglios on the walls. bad sign.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now I'm just bummed out.

If I had to try something “indicative” of the cuisine, what should I get?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m gonna assume you know about the ceviche. i’m a little leery of the way they “cook it” in leche de tigre. typically the fish is just put into the lime juice and that’s it. leche de tigre is a different offering entirely.

choros a la chalaca is a very common and one they should be able to do pretty close to authentic. i’d give it a try.

papa a la huancaina is worth trying if for nothing else than the peruvian olives. i can’t stand them but they are a taste some people love.

i see they have anticuchos. ask them if they’ll do it with beef heart which is the way you get it here. sooooo gooood.

parihuela is fantastic when done right but it’s one of the kind of dishes that nobody but your grandma cooked correctly. i notice they make it with chicha de jora like i described above. good parihela at lunch will make you nap for two hours and then you are bulletproof for the rest of the night.

lomo saltado is one of these dishes that is done best at some scrungy restaurant on the street. but it’s almost impossible to screw up. ask if they have aji amarillo and if so, this is one they should get pretty close to right.

aji de gallina is similar as well. very much a stick-to-your-ribs dish. very hard to mess up.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't get bummed out

you are partly fighting economics.

peruvian cuisine rests on the unique ingredients as much as the style of cooking. there are more than 9,000 types of potatoes here, you just cant get a lot of the ones they use.

also, it’s one of the richest fishing areas in the world. you just can’t get the freshness nor the diversity.

and if you can get it, it’s probably a place that costs more than your average mom-and-pop-style restaurant. they can afford to ship in the stuff that i can get walking down three block to the market.

a lot of the menu rests on dishes they can do there with a pervian approach. chicharrones = batter fried. all they have to do is serve it with a peruvian style sauce.

peruvian cuisine is getting more popular in the states but chicago isn’t a known destination for peruvian expats. so it’s a bit behind the curve on this.

i’m a bit more harsh in my estimation than most people because i’m originally from louisiana and i see how that style of cooking has been raped by folks who have “popularized” it.

but if you are keeping an open mind about it and willing to keep looking, i’m sure you’ve got many wonderful discoveries ahead.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it horrible that all I took from your response is:

you’re from Louisiana…and support Alabama?!?

Kidding, thanks for your time. I loooove talking food and am always looking to learn more. My father is from Mumbai and is of Iranian descent, so I can completely understand the things you’re saying about getting food from the source v. recreating dishes in a far-flung locales. I look forward to following your blog. Thanks!

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming this is in response to your having gone to Alabama

and not my father’s country of origin.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

mumbai is almost certainly

more advanced that great swaths of the bayou state.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It manages to be way ahead

and way behind at the same time. It’s a marvelously maddening and wonderful place. I miss it terribly.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm completely the opposite about La.

it’s great being from there but i’ll never go back.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

You must also

get your fair share of ceviche. I’m very jealous.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the risk of sweeping generalizations

Mormons are smart business people. When shown that homebrewers weren’t hedonistic drunkards, but rather craftsmen who in fact care more about the reputation of their beverage of choice than your local souser, they were happy to oblige.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've just summed up the philosophy of the Penn State basketball program!

Lowering expectations makes reaching goals much easier.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

How very mexican of you

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well,

I think that’s 800, anyway.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once wronte a paper on Goebbels

I remember next to nothing about him. But I did recognize the name when he was mentioned in Inglorious Basterds.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

YUSS.

I’ve always wanted to teach at DMACC.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

nazi propaganda chief

really creepy. but a surprisingly effective philanderer. adamantly supported the holocaust. poisoned his six children then his wife before shooting himself.

real shithead.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

he might have

the details of his demise are kinda sketchy.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The most effective philanderers

Usually are surprising.

"We just forgot our pants. Nothing against the team or anything like that." -- take a guess

by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

inglourious bastard was a remake of point blank?

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paint Your Wagon.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go away.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

They Call the Wind Mario Lemieux...

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOOO MARIO LEMIEUX WOOOO

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And sung by Clint Eastwood.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOW who needs to go away?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um

Your mom?

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

To each his own.

Although that and Liberty Valance are both good.

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe is short for Josephine Paterno

drunk comment of the week: Tim Tebow bless my bowling ball

by Wallacewade04 on Apr 8, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

And?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay isn't their son.

They took a Paterno-ty test!

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fran-tastic.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok then...

this has turned from BHGP-style irreverence to full on CGB-syle nonsensical.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Not true,

those guys are way more interested in human rights than we are. We’re just waiting for the fart joke/Nazi reference.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you kidding...

that had three threads as long as this one the day they hauled the hippies out of the trees and cut them down. and it wasn’t because they were upset.

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this a

problem for you?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many ADHD kids does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Let’s go ride bikes!

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice!

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by jtothep on Apr 8, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, you should take that back.

If you don’t think BHGP qualifies as nonsensical after this and especially this, then I’m not sure how you would go about defining that word.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're getting closer!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Why don't you just eat assorted crap while at Wal-Mart

since you’ve already degraded yourself at that point?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

…they have food a wal-mart?

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by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never go inside of them

and even I know that.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

waits.....

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by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whole Foods FTW!

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

F* Whole Foods.

Apparently, only the wealthy deserve to eat well.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

…where’s my silver spoon, damnit?

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bet there's one in Iowa...

…sorry, couldn’t keep a straight face.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

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by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have ONE in Alabama

and you’re talking smack?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phoenix AZ

Been too long in the desert.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

It may be no Whole Foods

but Hy-Vee is actually a really damned good regional chain.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I spent 8 years working at HyVee

But I still have a hard time justifying the money required to shop there.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you Kurt Warner?!?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, sir.

I’m far too short to be considered an athlete. I think even Drew Tate is taller than me.

by The Mexican't on Apr 8, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shorter than

Cuauhtemoc Blanco?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fred Russell?

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nipsy Russell?

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is at BSD...

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pennsylvania

is that state that makes me feel like I have the potential to be chainsaw massacred more-so than anywhere else.

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by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and when you went back...

was your city gone?

Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.

by kleph on Apr 8, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was replaced by shopping malls

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 9, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

My brother went to school in SE Ohio

although in fairness to Athens (or maybe not), it’s far more similar to West Virginia in “culture” than Ohio.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess I don’t fit the typical southerner model. I haven’t been in one since I was a child. Even then I think it was called something else. Sam’s Town I believe?

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not really a Southern model anymore

most of non-urban America has been Wal-Marted.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, I do pass by about thirty of them on my ten mile track to and from work. Speaking of, time to head out and enjoy the evening. 1000 posts, here we come.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Later, time to go make dinner for the brood.

Good luck, Rambler or whoever is left. Have a night.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taiwan?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

It is going to be fun

Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils

by psu on Apr 8, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nick Saban looks into all your hearts

and finds you wanting

drunk comment of the week: Tim Tebow bless my bowling ball

by Wallacewade04 on Apr 8, 2010 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I was part of his 95 recruit class.

But he cut most of us.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

We stopped talking about football a while ago

so probably not.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pssssscht!

/opens beer

You may continue, gentlemen. After all, WE ARE

Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.

by WestPointLion on Apr 8, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are pathetic.

We should be at 1200 by now!!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

…well, you did leave men to do a boy’s job…

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Shula's job?

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's Impossible...

…improbable..
..look if you aren’t going to take this seriously…

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slab Bulkhead!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Fridge Largemeat!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Punt Speedchunk!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Butch Deadlift!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

...if you say Diesel Washington next...

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Apr 8, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bold BigFlank!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Splint Chesthair!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Flint Ironstag!

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by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Bolt Van Der Huge!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Thick McRunfast!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Blast HardCheese!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Buff Drinklots!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Trunk Slamchest!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Fist Rockbone!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Stump BeefKnob!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Smash Lampjaw!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Punch Rockgroin!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Buck Plankchest!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Stump Chunkman!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Dirk Hardpec!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Rip Steakface!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Slate Slabrock!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Crud Bonemeal!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Brick hardmeat!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Rip Slagcheek!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Punch Sideiron!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Gristle McThornbody!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Slake Fistcrunch!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Buff Hardback!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Bob Johnson!

Oh, wait….

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Big McLargeHuge!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Lump Beefbroth!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

And that's 1000! Thank you Space Mutiny!

I’ll repeat the favor at Roll Bama Roll next year.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe you did that.

That was outlandish, even for you.

Black Shoe Diaries
Success With Honor

by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

No one ever doubted you. If they say otherwise they're lying.

But I didn’t think you’d actually go through by yourself once the debates ended.

Black Shoe Diaries
Success With Honor

by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 8, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’m actually just surprised there were no kitten pictures involved with this one.

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

What in the Holy Hell just happened?!?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Rambler decided to go all MST3k on our collective asses

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rip Slagcheek

takes the cake for me.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're like the Japanese soldiers who kept fighting

40 years after the war ended.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

...he's drunk on sake?

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."

by IcersGuy on Apr 8, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except I won the war.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 8, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

In their own way, they did too.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 8, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

wawa parking lot

Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils

by psu on Apr 8, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

"There are only three certainties in college football: all players will eventually leave, the ACC will be bad, and Joe Paterno ", Clay Travis, CNNsi Fanhouse

by letsgopsu on Apr 9, 2010 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

or your brain

But most likely just your work/school performance.

Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils

by psu on Apr 9, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I GET THE FINAL WORD.....YES

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

by Roland86 on Apr 9, 2010 2:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry Roland

Had to do it

Last!

"There are only three certainties in college football: all players will eventually leave, the ACC will be bad, and Joe Paterno ", Clay Travis, CNNsi Fanhouse

by letsgopsu on Apr 9, 2010 3:08 AM EDT reply actions  

LAST

Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.

by Roland86 on Apr 9, 2010 3:24 AM EDT reply actions  

You have to be joking.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you reach 2000?

Black Shoe Diaries
Success With Honor

by Jeff Junstrom on Apr 9, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's uncharted waters.

I don’t think we’ve ever had a thread that large. I already have a lag when I type here.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're gonna need a bigger boat.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

reach

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what?

I think I can. The question is: will I? Maybe someone else should step up for once.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Allenby!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bradley!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Conway!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

De Gaulle!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eisenhower!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Falkenhayn!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gouraud!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hindenburg!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ishii

That bastard, may he pay eternally for his crimes against our POWs.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jones (the Marine one)!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Koenig!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ledger!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

er, Ludendorff!

Yeah, Ludendorff.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Montgomery

boom.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marshall!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nivelle!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pershing

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

O'Connor!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Paulus!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mine was better

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mine was more obscure.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Um.

Qadhaffi!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was a colonel

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ritchie!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Schwartzkoff

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Schwarzkopf!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tso!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boring, goodbye.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lemme guess

You have a job.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Underwood!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap lcap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vlasov!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Westmoreland!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Xu Qiliang!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yamashita!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zhukov!

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zhukov?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Close enough

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

We will use our nerd powers

To beat you next fall.

Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils

by psu on Apr 9, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated

by Alabama ManDance on Apr 9, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Those aren't nerd powers you need

it’s a special education degree.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

win

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Apr 9, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have nothing big to say...

but I just had to have one comment in this epic thread.

Computers rank me number 1, blame the BCS...it's their fault.-Joe Budden

by OMEGAMAN on Apr 9, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Nothing big to say?

I just played a 20th century generals alphabet game by myself.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I woke up...

had 2 chips ahoy cookies for breakfast, and read comic books. Sounds like a solid start to the day for both of us.

Computers rank me number 1, blame the BCS...it's their fault.-Joe Budden

by OMEGAMAN on Apr 9, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's actually not true,

you simply refused to acknowledge other participants.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Apr 9, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to mock you for being whiny.

But instead, I’ll say: you think up a new game, Kyle.

"You people bring matches for Mikey?"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah

I’m going to 2000

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

100 bottles of Hawkye Vodka on the wall

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

100 bottles of Hawkye Vodka

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take one down, pass it around

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

99 bottles of Hawkye Vodka on the wall

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

99 bottles of Hawkeye Vodka

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take one down, pass it around

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

98 bottles of Hawkeye Vodka on the wall

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

98 bottles of Hawkeye Vodka

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take one down, pass it around

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

97 bottles of Hawkye Vodka on the wall

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

97 bottles of Hawkeye Vodka

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take one down, pass it around

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean Hawkeye from Mash?

Because I think they were making grain alcohol

Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils

by psu on Apr 9, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

96 bottles of Hawkeye Vodka on the wall

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

96 bottles of Hawkeye Vodka

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take one down, pass it around

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

95 bottles of Hawkye Vodka on the wall

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

oops Hawkeye

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

95 bottles of Hawkeye Vodka

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take one down, pass it around

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

94(!) bottles of Hawkeye Vodka on the wall

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

94 bottles of Hawkeye Vodka

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take one down, pass it around

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

93 bottles of Hawkeye Vodka on the wall

"can your nerd powers explain what this dude is doing in the thread above? I think we’re already defeated"

by ReadingRambler on Apr 9, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, enough of this.

@scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Apr 9, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

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