I Can Has Rival?
by KevinHD on May 13, 2010 1:31 PM EDT
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PrintThe readers of Iowa's Gazette Online have spoken, and their response:
Something to think about during the expansion discussion, as Iowa isn't likely to be included in any of Penn State's prospective divisions (although that's not to say they couldn't be).
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I certainly wouldn't object.
Minnesota and Michigan State can play for the Well We Both Can’t Collapse Down The Stretch Shovel or something.
I know about your diabolical plan.
by KevinHD on May 13, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i propose the new
“which team blows its load earliest” game. the trophy can be the bust of jim from american pie
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
LOL at a shovel.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
The trophy should be a fork, and it should go to the loser.
by Cairo on May 13, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm 100% in favor of a trophy that the losing team has to keep.
It would provide a tremendous spin on the “run to the other team’s sideline and take the trophy back” thing. How much would you enjoy beating Michigan State and then dumping that piece of crap LGT on their sideline? (Not that we’d have ownership of it very often.)
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on May 13, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That'd be great
except the Land Grant Bowling trophy isn’t nearly sturdy enough to survive that more than sort of abuse
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 13, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If there was ever a trophy the loser should have...
It’s gotta be the Land Grant. That thing is awful. The winning team should get to graffiti it with insults before “presenting” it to the loser.
Fuck tOSU
"How much would you enjoy beating Michigan State and then dumping that piece of crap LGT on their sideline? "
that put a real funny image in my mind
I’m thinking catapult that POS across the field and it hits the gatorade and stuff explodes everywhere, waterboys go runnin’…
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
I don't think the divisions would be strictly geographic.
I could easily see teams like Iowa and Nebraska potentially ending up in PSU’s division. Makes a lot of sense, especially given that any Notre Dame inclusion would probably come with a bunch of protected games (Michigan, MSU, Purdue).
Maybe a division with Rutgers, PSU, Ohio State, Nebraska, Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota might work. That would leave Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, and _______ as the other eight. Protect one cross-division rivalry (Sparty/ND for us, OSU-Michigan, etc.) and have another cross-divisional game or two rotating.
Anyway, the point is, I don’t see this being divided on geographic lines regardless of who joins the conference.
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on May 13, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
I haven’t heard a consensus about whether OSU/UM fans want to be in the same division or not. There seems to be disagreement about what a rematch would mean for their little Game.
I know about your diabolical plan.
I don't think they even care as long as it's the last game of the year and played annually.
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on May 13, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You know...
If the Big ?? can get ND to give up independence, they can get OSU-Mich. to play at some time other than the final game.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
Why not have rotating divisions?
I know this is pretty revolutionary (no pun indtended) but any static split, be it geographic or whatever will mean PSU would play 5 teams ten times a decade and play 6 teams only fives a decade. Why not reshuffle the teams every two years so you could get a balance and play every team 7-8 times a decade?
I also detest it when the “East/North” champion is 7-1 in conference and the “West/South” champion is 4-4. How about you have a 12-team league with no divisions, and just have the conference champion feature:
a) the two teams with the best conference record, no ties
b) two teams at the top of the standings if their conference record is tied, otherwise
c) something sensible and logical
I'm not really sure how that would work
but it’s the first time I’ve ever heard that suggested and I must admit I’m a bit intrigued by it. I think an every two year shuffle would be too frequent, but the thinking behind the concept is coming from the right place.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 13, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the championship
the reshuffling.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 13, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Same as it is now, only with more teams rotating on and off the schedule
For example, let’s assume a 16-team league with nine in-conference games.
Furthermore, keep three rivals that you play every year.
In 2014-2015 you play your rivals plus six teams, in 2016-2017 you play your rivals plus the other six teams.
That gets you five games a decade against everybody but your annual rivals. (It’s impossible to play all the other 15 teams more than 6 times a decade without playing more than 9 in-conference games, and that assumes no annual rivals.)
I don't think this would really work, as you'd need everyone to be in defined divisions
what I could see happening would be something like this
Split 16 teams up into 4 sub-divisions, somewhat like:
East
PSU
Syracuse
Rutgers
Pitt
North
OSU
Michigan
MSU
Northwestern
West
Wisky
Iowa
Minny
Nebraska
South
Illinois
Missouri
Indiana
Purdue
And then you’d rotate the divisions like so:
Years 1 & 2
Div A: East + North
Div B: West + South
Years 3 & 4
Div A: East + South
Div B: West + North
Years 5 + 6
Div A: East + West
Div B: North + South
And then you repeat it. That means that there are two sets of 4 teams that you only play 2 out of 6 years (and therefore don’t play for 4 year stretches). This could be somewhat alleviated depending on how many conference games you have. With this set up, you’d have 7 intra-divisional games. If we go to 9 conference games (and only 3 non-con games) then you’d have 2 more games to play every year.
So for example, just looking at like PSU’s schedule, it could be something like this:
Year 1: Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, OSU, Michigan, MSU, Northwestern, Wisky, Illinois
Year 2: Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, OSU, Michigan, MSU, Northwestern, Iowa, Missouri
Year 3: Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, Illinois, Missouri, Indiana, Purdue, Minny, OSU
Year 4: Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, Illinois, Missouri, Indiana, Purdue, Nebraska, Michigan
Year 5: Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, Wisky, Iowa, Minny, Nebraska, MSU, Indiana
Year 6: Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, Wisky, Iowa, Minny, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue
So now we’d play every non-subdivisional team in the conference 3 times out of every 6 years. Heck, they don’t even have to pair up the conferences in back to back years, as long as they keep the model rotating like I outlined above (though obviously slightly difference non-divisional matchup rotations for each team).
The only problem I see with something like this would be that for the non-divisional games (the extra 2 each year), it wouldn’t be a home and home series for the 6 year period (though over a 12 year period it would even out). You’d still be guaranteed to see that team in your stadium at least once every 6 years, and at least three times every 12 years, so I think (but haven’t checked it out) it could be worked out so that every 4-year class would be able to see every conference opponent at home at least once. Still, that isn’t even necessarily guaranteed now. Like we played @ Michigan in 2002, then didn’t play 2003 or 2004, and then played @ Michigan in 2005.
by The JuggerNitt on May 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I said this in a previous post
I don’t see Iowa as a rival.
Yeah, they beat us in a couple of big games, but outside of that, there’s really nothing to get my blood boiling about them.
I also like playing Sparty the last week of the season and being able to relax somewhat while the chaos ensues around us.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
But knowing that you're not going to get Michigan OR Ohio State as your last game
Iowa could be a more interesting “rival” than MSU. Personally, I’m with you on the “no” side of things, as I value the tradition of Iowa’s two conference “trophy” rivals (UW, Minn.) but it wouldn’t be the worst thing to ever happen.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 13, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No I'd be ok with it
But I like things the way they are now.
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by Adam Bittner on May 13, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The weird thing for Iowa fans
is that although we have long, competitive rivalries with Minnesota and Wisconsin, just about every Hawkeye (myself included) would instantly want Nebraska as our “rival” if they were to join. Is there a non-con team that Penn Staters dream about having as their yearly rival (and I know it won’t be Pitt for most of you)?
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 13, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Pitt would be high on the list
But that is simply from lack of other true “rivals.” I mean I would love to play teams like ND and Nebraska at the end of the year, but there isn’t the necessary animosity there that would make it a true rivalry. I think Pitt might be the only team able to supply that level of hate.
by VVeRPennState on May 13, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Dream is a strong word
but it’s Pitt. It would be tough to play at the end of the year though, because they have WVU. I’d also enjoy kicking it old school and going with Syracuse.
by Illegal Formation on May 13, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
What would be awesome
is if someone out east had survived the conference thing, or even come out as a team that competed on Michigan State’s level. None have, and so a “dream team” doesn’t really exist. At least that’s how if feels.
I know about your diabolical plan.
Notre Dame
We had a heck of a series against them for quite some time.
Of course, they need to join the conference first.
the problem with ND
is that while they would break up the PSU/MSU land grant “rivalry”, it would likely be MSU that would get ND as the end of year rival, and not PSU.
by The JuggerNitt on May 17, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Other than the loosing and BHGP
How, exactly, is Iowa more interesting than Michigan State?
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
I asked myself this as well
But didn’t get far. BHGP and the Iowa fans have really made Iowa more interesting to me these past two years. Seem like good people. Even got me to respect a fair bit about their program and their otherwise decidedly uninteresting coach. But if you take that away, like pretend BHGP didn’t exist, what is Iowa?
Ferentz would remain far less douchey than Dantonio. They probably have more fans nationwide, but I couldn’t be sure. Rambler might not have hopped on their bandwagon (tho he seems inclined to do so with Purdue and their blog isn’t much to get excited about). What else? Hmmm, I dunno, it’s tough….
"So while while I may be douchy, I’m not rusty."
So outside of the 'Blog world
Nothing? Michigan State has to have more alumni than Iowa, although I didn’t look it up. And they’re closer to, such as it is.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
MSU has more alums
but not necessarily fans. Although Iowa is a smaller state, the Hawkeyes get the lions’ share of the loyalty (about an 80/20 split) from Iowans at large. MSU and Michigan are far closer to each other in terms of Michiganders’ loyalties. I would also say Iowa has become a far more prestigious program; MSU reached one Rose Bowl since 1980 whereas, going back to that period, Iowa has 3 Rose Bowls and two Orange Bowls to their name.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 14, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
At the end of the day,
My point was that the Penn State/Iowa “rivalry” is more of a function of the cross-over between two pretty active blogs that have kind of grown up together. That makes it a more appealing game to what, 750, maybe 1,000 hardcore readers?
I think that to the balance of the world it’s six of one, half dozen of the other. Aren’t Iowa’s rivals Minnesota/Wisconsin [with the standard red-blooded hatred of Ohio State and Michigan thrown in]?
I’ve said this a million times, all I need from a “rivalry” prospective is Ohio State on the first Saturday of October. But, and I have nothing to back this up, I think they are resistant to it because they don’t want to acknowledge us anything more than the melange of other Big Ten schools that aren’t Michigan. They only have eyes for Michigan, it’s cute in a way. And sad too, really sad. Whatever.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
I got your point, jesse,
just addressing a specific part of it. I’m on record as saying I don’t think the series is a rivalry or has much potential for one…unless Ferentz replaced JoePa (which won’t happen, but shuddering at the thought).
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 14, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
And I said this in a previous post.
True rival or not, I’d rather play Penn Schtaaaate in an early season game in primetime under the lights than playing second banana to tOSU and Michigan the last week of the season…
Fuck tOSU
OSU/Mich
They don’t want to move their game past Thanksgiving, so what we really could do is steal some of their thunder and use the new last week of the season to stage Iowa/PSU.
by gumbercules on May 14, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, I think an Iowa-Penn St nightgame is a perfect way to start conference play.
It has national attention and at least one of the teams, often both, are usually ranked.
by HawkeyeRecon on May 14, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I am afraid the Big 10 will force Rutgers upon us.
Assuming the Big 10 adds Rutgers, Missouri, and Nebraska, wouldn’t the Big 10 tell us to take one for the team and play Rutgers? Who else would they assign as their rival, Minnesota?
As long as Rutgers doesn't want to continue to play
all their big games on Thursday, Friday, Tuesday morning, or noon on Wednesday, I’d be moderately OK with that.
I would love to see Minnesota play Rutgers as a "rival".
They could play for the Paul Tagliabue Trophy, a wooden plaque cut in the shape of Long Island with the word “meh” largely embossed across it in bronze.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 13, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Do you think the Big ??
will allow us to schedule a 3-1, 5-2 type series with Rutgers? Of course not! But we would be giving up a lot of attendence when we played them there, unless they play in the Giants/Jets Stadium.
I hate the thought of Rutgers being one of our chief rivals in the Big ?? East. Give me PITT any day. I’d even grant them a Home and Home.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
I would give this poll a little more credence...
…if Rambler didn’t account for 500 of the 678 PSU votes.
Seriously? We finished exactly one vote ahead of Minny? This has Rambler’s prints all over it.
it is bad
when someone takes only a day or 2 off and is noticed missing
by The JuggerNitt on May 13, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
let's try to bait him out of hiding
What port city did Rommel lay siege to starting in 1941?
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils
Sure was.
Silly Hitler. Anyone that’s played Axis&Allies knows that Africa is a waste of resources unless you are just laying waste to the allied forces and want to rub it in…
Fuck tOSU
Hitler really needed the oil resources in North Africa.
That is why he sent his best general and used his best fighter, Focke-Wulf 190 in Africa. FW 190 was a superior plane to the Me 109 at close ground support and low altitude air superiority. Without oil, Hitler would have had no ground war in Europe, he never reached far enough into Russia to get oil there.
is he off the grid?
It is strange going this long without a response from him
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
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by carolinaeasy on May 14, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He must have gotten a real job
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
It's because you're quite accurate.
You need to add something patently wrong or controversial so that he can correct you.
Rommel was a weak commender. Lost in North Africa, lost in Normandy. That’s 0-2 in my book. That’d drop him out of the AP Top 25 General rankings.
Does the Reading in RR stand for the PA city?
Or is it a reference to Reading Rainbow? I have never quite figured that out…I need some enlightenment.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on May 14, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on May 14, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
When I first joined SBN
I asked Rambler if he was, in fact, Lavarr Burton. His response was pretty humorless. Two things I’ve since learned a) I was thinking of the “Reading” in terms of the verb and not the town in PA/UK and b) Rambler likely has no knowledge of that TV show because there weren’t enough generals on it.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 14, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if that has been discussed here before but I did find this article on google.
The Origins of Reading Rambler?
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by carolinaeasy on May 14, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Apparently "in the period between 1875 and 1885, walking was Reading's noblest sport."
You learn something new every day.
Although it does make me wonder what events transpired in 1875 and 1885 to drastically change the Reading sports landscape.
by VVeRPennState on May 14, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
The Panic of 1873
18,000 businesses failed between 1873 and 1875. Unemployment reached 14% by 1876.
Walking may have been Reading’s noblest sport, but it was also one of the cheapest.
I think we need a student to further examine this as a thesis subject.
You can call it “The Rise and Fall of Late 19th Century Walking: From its birth in depression and disease to its death at the hands of the nation’s noblest football team.”
by VVeRPennState on May 14, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I read that there was
a gasoline shortage, so everyone opted for walking over running their eco-hating giant SUV’s.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Wow all of this and still no rambler? Where is he?
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on May 14, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
My theory
He is a tenured history professor at PSU and thought he could spend all of his time on BSD because of his tenure. The dept head caught on and he is actually doing some real work instead, and he got his computer confiscated. This is just a theory.
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils
My guess
He has been using every waking moment campaigning for Pat Angerer in the Name of the Year tournament.
by VVeRPennState on May 14, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he fell into
a hot tub time machine and warped back to the battle of the bulge where he was accidentally killed by friendly fire.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on May 14, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
WOW!
I’m truly impressed for the discussion of state-of-the-art metallurgy in 1930. The fact that I live just outside of Reading makes it just that much better.
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
by leeharvey418 on May 14, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He was a skilled field commander
He did well in N Africa considering he was often outnumbered 10 to 1. In Europe his strategy to have armor on/near/behind the beaches was over ruled by Hitler. He knew armored reinforcements would be decimated by air as they tried to make their way to the beaches.
by HawkeyeRecon on May 14, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to talk
but first read this book.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 13, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I tried it and it sucked
But I think it’s because I had to read this book first. (And so did I.)
"So while while I may be douchy, I’m not rusty."
This is the first and only book anyone needs.
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils
you can get that at 50% markdown at the dollar tree
True story I saw it there yesterday
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on May 14, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you saying that I
can now get for only $1 what was originally $2? That’s less than a big mac. Hot damn!
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
well it is actually 50% off $1 so that makes it 50c
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on May 15, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought everything at Dollartree
cost a buck. Now that they are 50% (i.e. one dollar) Dollartree could now inventory them book.
If the book was originaly $1, now in the cutout bin for 0.50, I would imagine dollartree shrikwraps two together to stick with their scheme.
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Because we don’t actually know what we are talking about.
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils
I saw it on Amazon for a penny plus shipping.
Or, free, if you’ll pay for shipping.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
I have a friend that just got married
and is one of the biggest ND homers around. This is a guy that another friend and I always place an over/under bet on how many times he’ll mention ND in a night. I really should get him this book as a wedding gift.
by The JuggerNitt on May 17, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
To me, Iowa is like Newman to Seinfeld
They’re more of an annoyance than a rival. I can’t get too worked up over playing them but it’s aggravating as hell to lose to them.
To be fair....
Given Iowa’s record against Penn State recently, if the question was, “who do you want to play on homecoming”, or “who do you want to play if your Mother is being held hostage by Iraqi extremeists thirsty for Iowa victory”, the answer would probably be Penn State too.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
Instead of a trophy, we should play for this...
That’s right, the NWA heavy weight title belt. WWWOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Intercontinental Champ carries more weight. Or the Mustard Belt.
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by Jeff Junstrom on May 13, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
There are too many belts
in wrestling these days. I used to Trick ‘or Treat at Bruno Samartino’s house – he would always complain about this.
Yeah, adding so many belts really ruined the integrity of the sport.
by VVeRPennState on May 13, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you did there!
Had to read it twice.
Yeah
Pretty soon it will be like Pee-Wee soccer leagues. Everyone will get a belt just for participating.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Damn Soccerization of our society
I need to go find some damn lion and gazelle videos.
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by carolinaeasy on May 13, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is life as nature intended it.
Here is life in a soccerized society.
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
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by carolinaeasy on May 13, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i play soccer
and i do not approve of all these shenanigans. and really, it’s more like soccer parentized, not soccerized, in my opinion
He has a point here.
Parents are to blame for the helmet-wearing, everybody wins a prize attitude of today. Parents are soft as a warm turd these days.
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on May 13, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, it's amazing the little kids don't have to play soccer in bubblewrap parkas.
"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee
by Run Up The Score on May 13, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
wait
kids wear helmets playing soccer now?
by The JuggerNitt on May 13, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
God I need to find more lion and gazelle movies
This is too much!
I am Laura Nichols and I like Bacon.
BSD is an addiction, and this is the first step.
by carolinaeasy on May 14, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Well this is a football discussion so soccer bashing is quite acceptable in this culture
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by carolinaeasy on May 14, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Make it like soccer
The top division and bottom division.
Changes each year.
Would be hell on scheduling, but f’ it. As along as we’re talking batshit scenarios, why don’t we have two divisions, and the bottom team in the top division gets demoted each year?
by Tailgate Shogun on May 13, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
I like this idea...
though I am not sure if Michigan would go for it if a bottom division was precluded from a BCS before the season started. Who would start in the 1st division? Who would start in the 2nd?
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by Esteban d' Amur on May 13, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember reading somewhere
and I wish I could remember where, that we should do this using the MAC as the lower division
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on May 13, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I love this idea for American pro sports
but it’s inherently unfair for non-traditional college programs who would get their once-in-a-lifetime great team while in the bottom division. Kind of takes away that magical quality I love about college sports.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 13, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on May 13, 2010 5:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we should change uniforms every year too
by Mr. Rosewater on May 13, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I know it's a hated idea already...
but I was really impressed with the pictures from the bowl game against LSU. Seeing Bowman flying around with his practically dark grey pants made me want that as an alternate uniform.
It’s not a drastic change, but the blue jersey, dark grey pants, and black shoes is about as plain as you can get. But it will still look intimidating.
Computers rank me number 1, blame the BCS...it's their fault.-Joe Budden
Now if only our colors were blue and gray...
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
by leeharvey418 on May 14, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we can fly in
20 yards of turf from the Citris bowl and let the team do some mudslides during pre-game warm ups. Problem solved.
Nike will probably steal this and create a new mud and duck crap Oregon Uniform.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on May 14, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or, consider this...
we don’t change our uniforms at all, ever.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
I was never thinking a permanent change
I’m thinking like a Nike Pro Combat (or whatever it was called) uniform that shows up once, or against every SEC team we play.
Computers rank me number 1, blame the BCS...it's their fault.-Joe Budden
Only if PSU's classic white jerseys
had a sponsor’s name across the front.
For your approval:
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 14, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HELL YES!
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
by leeharvey418 on May 14, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
This gives me an idea...
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 14, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, BSDer's
see if you’ve got any good ideas.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on May 15, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
This is a silly idea
Iowa and PSU have about as little in common as two schools from the same conference can have. The only notable thing you can say about the series is that Iowa has won more often than you might expect over the past few years.
The MSU rivalry isn’t perfect, but I think that of the current conference schools, they make for the best season-ending game. And let’s not forget, the meeting between the two schools determined the conference champion in 2008.
by newenglandnittanylion on May 16, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
What makes MSU “the best season-ending game” in your opinion?
The only things that make the series unique are the blood drive competition and the hideous trophy. I think a blood drive with Illinois or Wisconsin would be just as compelling.
well MSU is about as similar a school to PSU as you can be
aside from football tradition, but there aren’t really any other schools in the B10 with quite the same tradition over the past 50 years not named OSU or Michigan. There are other teams that are good in different eras, and Wisconsin and Iowa are certainly close, but outside of that, the schools aren’t really that similar, either.
It is like, on a scale of 1-10 for what schools would be a good rivalry, it would be something like
OSU: 9
Michigan: 7
MSU: 5
Wisky: 4
Iowa: 3
Illinois: 2
Minnesota: 2
Northwestern: 2
Purdue: 2
Indiana: 1
But unfortunately OSU and Michigan already have their rivalry which would be a 10. Not like MSU is that far ahead of a school like Wisky or Iowa, but if we have to choose someone, it might as well be them
by The JuggerNitt on May 17, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, and just to humor you
Pitt would probably be an 8 or 9.
Rutgers would probably be a 5 or 6.
Syracuse would probably be a 7 or 8
Notre Dame would probably be an 8 or 9
Missouri would be a 2
Texas would be a 3 or 4
Nebraska would be a 7 or 8
by The JuggerNitt on May 17, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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