COME TO PENN STATE, EH? No, Not You. You Have To Leave Right Now.
by Run Up The Score on May 25, 2010 9:31 AM EDT
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Double barrel news this morning: First, wide receiver A.J. Price is leaving Penn State ($). The eternally skinny Price has languished at the bottom of the depth chart since his arrival in Happy Valley, and never seemed able to put on the necessary weight to become a Big Ten receiver. With many true freshmen making an impact for PSU at that position last year, Price appeared destined for a career as a benchwarmer.
The other news is that Penn State has apparently landed its very last recruit of the 2010 class (you thought the obscure Brad Bars was it? Oh, no.). No, you've never heard of him. And yes, he's from Canada. FOS' Matt Alkire scoops it:
Offensive tackle from Ottawa commits to Penn State and will be on campus this fall. He played club football in Canada.Alex Mateas, an offensive lineman from Ottawa, recently committed to the Penn State football team, according to Scout.com's Matt Alkire. Mateas will be on the PSU campus this fall and will be on scholarship.
Mateas told Alkire he is 6-foot-4, 310 pounds and played club football in Ottawa last season. He was on a team called the Ottawa Sooners.
Yes, the Ottawa Sooners. As a matter of personal policy, I don't like to be upset or dismissive when it comes to new kids joining the program, but...this and the Brad Bars scholarships are headscratchers, right? Here's what All Canada Gridiron had to say:
One of the premier OT in Canada for the class of 2010 Ottawa Sooner Alex Mateas has made his university choice. Alex has committed to Penn St. Alex who is quick, agile, very strong and plays with an edge decided on PSU after strongly considering an offer from Connecticut.
And, highlights of Canadian club football:
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To be fair, with the conversion rate, today was LOI day in Canada.
And with Price leaving, its a scholarship wash, essentially.
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As a regular student
you are probably screwed, unless you are general studies. As an athlete, I’m sure there are ways to throw 12 credits together to keep you qualified.
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I didn't schedule my freshman year classes until mid-July
I had to postpone my FTCAP day because my graduation ceremony fell on the originally scheduled one. I still got all the classes I needed.
We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.
I totally posted the Mateas thing a minute before you.
But agreed…?
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Yeah, I don't know *what* the hell.
And my list of “I don’t know” includes: who found him, what Canadian club football is, why nobody else besides UConn noticed him, why we’re still recruiting marginal 2010 players when we need more 2011 scholarships, etc.
I’m ready to push the panic button on our current recruiting class, by the way. For a program that finished with such a good class last year, this one is looking like a potential trainwreck.
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by Run Up The Score on May 25, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
When I starting seeing Rutgers landing recruits
I did the same thing. It’s one thing to say hey, let’s give it time before we see the big splashes, but at a certain point you’re simply behind. I think we’re at that point.
I know about your diabolical plan.
Rutgers got a NY OLB that was very interested in PSU.
We never offered him. He is a 4*.
I full agree… start freaking. If we don’t have any commits in a month (we’ll have had 2 camps by then, I believe), start sh!tting your pants and crying.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
What happened to the guys that were considered layups?
Caputo, Smith, Mangiro? I thought those guys were dying for a PSU offer
All have received offers, I believe.
I know Mangiro and Smith have, and I’m pretty sure Cap has too.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Correction
Cap does not, according to rivals and scout, but there are rumors that he received a verbal when he visited last month.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Caputo
if he lands here does he go DB, LB, or does he stay on as a college RB? Seeing run in high school his nose for open space is exceptional but his size and my inner Nittany Lion screams linebacker
Because it's a Bowl Game!!
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I think he'll be a DB, frankly.
We have no need of a RB, unless he’s a 5*, can’t miss type of guy. We have Redd, who’ll probably be redd-shirted (get it?) and Dukes, who will be two years behind Green. Hopefully we’ll get Beachum back full-speed, so we’ll have 3 legitimate guys without any need to shoehorn someone in.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
PS:
Caputo just released his top 4, it’s us, jaOSU, Pitt, Wisc.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
no Oregon?
must not be that good a player, then
by The JuggerNitt on May 28, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Right
From everything I heard they all have offers (verbal or written), but was under the understanding that PSU was the dream school for these guys and they would accept soon after they received their offers. Hope they are just doing their due diligence…
Like people say, “trust the staff” but I am just worried that we slow played a few too many guys
Agreed
Why not use Price leaving to get another recruit in 2011?!?! Or just A recruit in 2011. I’ve been patient this year because of the small class, but at this point it looks like the staff is panicking.
Why not offer Kyshoen Jarrett
4* DB who LOVES us and would commit before he hung up the phone. Assuage our fears with a 4*. I beg the coaches.
(PS: I do still think we’ll get Mangiro at camp if he comes, and hopefully that’ll start the ball. Wright or one of the Philly DL would be great too).
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Good mention of summer camps...
HS ends in beginning of June – when do FB summer camps get fired up? Since all has been quiet thus far your mention of camp time seems like a logical time for guys to start speaking.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
They're mid/late June. I think there's also one mid-July, but that was years ago, so timetables may have shifted earlier.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Canadian club football is like a travel baseball team down here
It is for kids really interested in the sport. Think of it this way, if you want to play hockey here in the US chances are you join a rec league, or if you are really good a traveling club team. That is what it is.
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by carolinaeasy on May 25, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
That sounds like a SC view to me.
HS hockey here is insane. Rec hockey is for people who can’t cut it on their HS team. The HS kids play the minor junior traveling teams over the summer, so those teams are usually rehashes of all the prep and private school teams, or kids who are already committed to certain colleges.
by PSUinBOSSton on May 25, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
So can we just say it's like AAU basketball?
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Well you happen to live in Boston, which is a hockey hotbed
In PA where I grew up, we had to play traveling jrs. There were no high school teams. That is still the case for most high schools. Looking at it rec league was a little underwhelming as a term, but I have a distinct PA view on hockey. Also I just talked to my fellow coach who is from the Toronto area. Club Football is similar to AAU, but with a set schedule, which is different from AAU baseball and basketball here in the US.
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by carolinaeasy on May 25, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I didn’t realize PA didn’t have HS hockey. That’s pretty surprising as I think of it as being fairly northeast, and think of the northeast and midwest as being hockey areas.
A Toronto area football coach? Do they even allow him to go back after turning his back on the nation’s game?
by PSUinBOSSton on May 25, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I had to look it up too.
See here. Not run by the PIAA, but rather by USA Hockey and the Pens/Flyers (sort of). All I know is that Peters Twp. is nasty, so that’s all that matters.
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by Jeff Junstrom on May 25, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I would imagine getting ice
time is a huge factor in the existance/non- of a HS ice hockey team.
Swimming is nuts here in HR Virginia so a lot of HS have their own pools. How many HS maintain their own iceplex?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Speaking only out of a minimal knowledge of western PA hockey
I know Peters (my old HS) shares the Icoplex (the Penguins practice rink) with numerous local clubs. Certainly not as much access as the local FB or BB teams have.
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by Jeff Junstrom on May 25, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I know my HS didn't have an official hockey team
but there was definitely a hockey team associated with the school.
by The JuggerNitt on May 25, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
And that's how it works for a lot of public HS's in PA
There are numerous HS’s that have a team, but they are not an “official” sport at the school. (I have friends who played for the Souderton team, and they’ve told me that they were not technically allowed to be called the Souderton Indians. Almost like how the Icers aren’t technically allowed to be called the Nittany Lions, but that’s a different story for a different day.)
While some players do trickle out from PA high schools, a lot either go to private high schools with better hockey programs, or they find their way to juniors in some way/shape/form.
"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."
That is a CLUB
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by carolinaeasy on May 25, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
bacon good, but you need to stab the top with a pepperoccini
and have some fresh salsa and/or guacamole instead of mayo.
I once ordered a club sandwich...
AND I’M NOT EVEN A MEMBER!!!
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noted above - alot of western PA (and likely PA overall) doesn't have "official" hockey teams.
Similar to lacrosse (at least at my HS and when i was tehre), it is almost entirely club-funded, the HS has nothing more than their name on the shirt. But the clubs are organized by HS, so they have the semblance of being HS teams.
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by Jeff Junstrom on May 25, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably very few
So they use the local ice rinks for their practices and games. And it helps those rinks out – somebody has to purchase that ice time for these rinks to stay open.
"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."
That makes sense I guess.
But we have a lot of HS teams with their own rink at the school. These are often the schools that don’t have football teams. I suppose you are just choosing where to put all your AD money. But even the schools without them get plenty of ice time. Funny thing is because they often get the choice practice times, there are rec old man leagues that have their games at like midnight on Tues and Thurs.
by PSUinBOSSton on May 25, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
that's how pretty much all my hockey leagues are
I’m happy if I get weeknight ice time before 10 pm, and have had plenty of 11:40 start times
by The JuggerNitt on May 25, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
They actually follow football up there, most of the buffalo bills fans are from the Ontario region
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by carolinaeasy on May 25, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
No HS Football in Canada
Most schools in Canada, and outside the US actually, don’t have interschool athletics like we do here in America. Most kids that are good play on club teams and the like.
Lots of HS football in Canada
Actually HS football in Canada is very strong in our area alone there are 30 teams that operate in our city of Ottawa. Like any sport in the US Canadians have opportunities to play at all levels. In this city alone in the last few years 6 players received Div 1A scholarships for football. That is saying alot for the city.
by Tristano Raponi on May 25, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
for the “strange brew” graphic.
I am, however, getting a little worried by our new strategy of seemingly targeting recruits that nobody has ever heard of while at the same time not acting too urgently in regards to some of our more highly regarded targets for the coming year. Hopefully I’m just being paranoid.
by Why did I Graduate? on May 25, 2010 9:41 AM EDT reply actions
Strange Brew
I love parts of that movie to death, but much of it is REALLY dated.
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by carolinaeasy on May 25, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
He throws some impressive blocks
but I have no clue what the level of competition is up there
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
He has a "big body"
/Pierre McGuire’d.
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by ReadingRambler on May 25, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Good call edzo
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by carolinaeasy on May 25, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
On the surface, I don't get this, either.
However, if he becomes as successful a “project” as Jack Crawford has, I guess I’ll reserve judgement till later.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
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He doesn't look like a pushover or banana peel.
I mean in terms of him fighting for the entire play. But maybe he was just better than his competition. I’m also no expert at analyzing any position.
We have heard it straight from Joe’s mouth before: The coaches had gotten lazy in recruiting. I pray that’s not the case and it’s just a weird year of our favorite players being highly recruited and taking their time. ONLY relying on those players is the problem though. No team wins all of their top battles, especially not us.
We better have a wider net of potential recruits in place otherwise we are going to look silly, chasing the so-called Plan B guys a month before signing day.
It’s supposed to work out that many recruits are looking at your previous year’s success when in the midst of their decision. An 11-2 season must not mean much anymore if no one has yet found Penn State as a team to jump on board with immediately.
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He looked athletic and has a good motor.
Not a bad pick up, will probably play guard.
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What I was thinking.
Problem is, we’ve got several of those “interested” in us for this year.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
In defense of Bars
I believe that kid was a legit D1 recruit who was simply under the radar, from the people I talked to that saw him at the camps, they said he was very impressive.
I’ll defend walk-ons and late additions like this any day of the week over a lot of the 4-star kids we pick up. They usually are high character, hard working, good academics and if nothing else, they make us proud. Meanwhile they may end up being the next Butler or Josh Hull.
So here’s to our new member of 2010!
Do you want the mustache on, or off?
Too bad.
Yes
Pick ups like this are awesome, and given Penn State’s track record, I’m surprised everyone is so worried about any of these kids.
by Illegal Formation on May 25, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not so much worry over this kid
but worry over next class, and why we’re rooting around to fill more scholarships for 2010 when we’re clearly restricted in 2011 and have several legit players who would immediately commit, but that we may miss out on by delaying.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
But if we have a scholarship for this year
shouldn’t we, you know, use it?
by Illegal Formation on May 25, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Espcially since his position
is OT. I know he’s younger and probably far from ready, but I see this as a Nerraw McCormick/Ako Poti kind of situation where you have a hole on the depth chart you need to fill and just maybe it will work out.
In many ways a kid like this is similar to the top recruit in the country....
he might be good, or he might suck, and you won’t know until he gets on the field.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
That's too rational.
Take it back.
by Illegal Formation on May 25, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
But the benefit here is
At least if they suck their grades will be good and they’ll be model student-athletes. The same cannot be said for so many 5-star busts.
Do you want the mustache on, or off?
Too bad.
Commencing the Canada pipeline!
Any guesses on who recruited him?
by Illegal Formation on May 25, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions
You...you...you...outta know!
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by Jeff Junstrom on May 25, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Alennis Morriset is hot
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by carolinaeasy on May 25, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Starting to worry now
Why is the staff looking for diamonds in the rough in Canadian club teams while we have 0 commits for next year?
6-foot-4, 310 pounds
I don’t know. That’s one big kid though.
by smashtheguitar on May 25, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Eh? EH!
I’ll leave the debate about whether this young man deserves a scholly or not to the rest of the crowd.
I’ll just say
1. Welcome to PSU, eh?
2. This kid has some large Canadian shoes to fill. Some dude named “Giftopolous” seems to have played at PSU and hailed from Canada way back when…
by Tailgate Shogun on May 25, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
I posted this point in my bogarted announcement about this kid.
Are we batting 1000 with Canadians, or is Gifty the only one we know about?
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Wasn't there some olineman
We got from there in the darkages that never saw the field? Claude or something like that?
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by Roland86 on May 25, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Francis Claude, TE...
not a total hoser, but I think he did like his beer. I think I recall a drinking incident and doghouse time.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Wow...
Not the nation I would have guessed…
Roland’s reference sounds right, though. I think we did get some TE from Canadaland.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Francis Claude
Everything you’d expect from a French-Canadian tight end. I guess.
If my name was Francis Claude
I would always dress in buck skins, a coonskin cap, and carry a musket.
If my name was Francis Claude
I’d look to America to protect me from the Germans, but badmouth them every other time. Because my name is French.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Frank Claude just
doesn’t have the same jen es se quoi.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on May 25, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If my name was Francis Claude ...
I’m The Mountie! I’m handsome, I’m brave, I’m strong!
I’m The Mountie! And I enforce the law!
You can try to run, but you can never hide,
Because THE MOUNTIE –
ALWAYS GETS HIS MAN!
I think he was from nova scotia
My grandparents did a summer vk up there back in the 80s with hoopes of seeing him LOL
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by psu in the w-b on May 26, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Alex Mataes
I wanted to follow up with you on the Alex Mateas story. I am one of the coaches for the Ottawa Sooners where Alex played and have to say that Penn State is getting a very good player. I have had the pleasure to see Alex develop over the last 4 years.
I know Penn State fans are wondering about the signing but rest assured Alex will start during his tenure.
First off I want to give you a little back ground on the Ottawa Sooners (www.ottawasooners.ca)
We are a football program that has been in existence for 50 years. We play in what is called the CJFL (Canadian Junior Football League). Our league is generally a training ground for potential CFL players. The Canadian Football League uses our league as a developmental league to prepare players to play professional football in the CFL. The age bracket for this league is generally 17-22. The league consists of teams across Canada. And we play in what has been generally known as the Little Grey Cup. Just this year alone the CFL drafted 5 players from the CJFL. The league is very good. If you go on our site you will see that a former player was the third pick overall in this year CFL draft and has in fact now signed with the Kansas City Chiefs of the NFL, his name is Corey Greenwood. This is all to say that this league is very good. It is much better than 6A high school football in the USA. And I would say as good or even better than JUCO. We have won 4 National and countless Conference Titles during our history.
It is in this league that Alex has played for the past 2 years both as a 17 and now as an 18 year old. Alex has been a dominant player in this league and this year made All Conference as an 18 year and a 2nd team consideration for All Canadian. The reason he did not make 1st Team All Canadian was because of his age. They tend to prefer graduating players in this respect.
Alex has also been heavily recruited this year by UCONN, Virginia, North Carolina and the University at Buffalo among probably 10 other schools. He has gone on an official recruiting trip to UCONN, North Carolina as well as Penn State. There was an offer on the table from UCONN and potential offers in the works from Virginia and University at Buffalo (time just ran out for these schools since Penn State offered). He was also being heavily recruited by North Carolina who were going to offer him as well but again both UCONN and Penn State beat them to the punch.
So as you can see Penn State is getting a formable player who will contribute and play at Penn State. In fact I believe from watching film of other OT like Seantrel Henderson from the 2010 class, Alex has better skills and more upside since he has already played against 20-22 year olds of which some are CFL/Pro bound.
That to say that Penn State fans should look forward to seeing Alex in a Nittany Lion uniform and will be come to realize this was a good signing by Coach Paterno.
I hope this sheds a little light on Alex and what a steal this was for Penn State.
by Tristano Raponi on May 25, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
Any reference on here to “punching a grumpy” makes me laugh. It might be the greatest way to describe poo-ing ever.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on May 27, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I love the term and will continue to use it
I taught it to my 5 yr old grandson and he now uses it, not that my daughter approves but its better than the s word.
by BMAN13 on May 27, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If your daughter can honestly sit there, look you straight in the eye
and not start laughing when she hears “punch a grumpy”, she needs to have her funny-dar checked
by dawsonPSU10 on May 28, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, she laughs, but doesn't like me teaching the little one more ways to get in trouble.
He starts school next year and she is afraid of what he will say half the time. He has a great sense of humor but some of it may be a tad adult in content due to hanging with his pappy and being around an adult baseball team all summer. I just hope he doesn’t tell his teacher that Stone IPA is the greatest beer ever, his mom wasn’t happy about that either.
by BMAN13 on May 28, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
People always turn their heads at these "wtf" out of nowhere signings
but Penn State has a pretty good track record of finding diamonds in the rough and developing them into formidable players (see: Clark, Daryll)
by The JuggerNitt on May 25, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd venture to say...
Iowa is better at finding these diamond in the roughs and turning them into stars (see: Iowa’s defensive front 4)
For the Glory of Old State
Ditto all the above
Thanks! I hope he does to Big Ten DE what he did to the kid at :42 (kid just stopped running at him)
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Nice! Thanks for sharing
We’ve had good luck with players from Canada in the past….
by Tailgate Shogun on May 25, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it a little hard to believe
that the best teams in America would have trouble against a team from Canada. I understand they are older, but there are some pretty damn good teams in Texas and Florida. But I also have never watched a CJFL game, so take my comments as they are. But this seems strange to me given that there is only a SLOW trickle of players from Canada making the NFL.
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by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Canada has 30 million people.
It’s as populated as Texas and California. Plus, there is a case where a team from Canada plays in the USA. Simon Fraser University in British Columbia has competed in the NAIA for years and had impressive results:
SFU is the only school to have finished in the top five of the NAIA division of the NACDA Director’s Cup, an award given to the top overall college sports program in the United States, in each year since the award was first given to NAIA schools in 1996. The Clan won the NAIA Cup consecutively from 1997 through 2001, and again in 2004.
The Canadian student-athletic program is a shadow of the US system, so SFU has been able to draw from across the country with the opportunity to play in the US system. They’re now moving up to NCAA Division II, so may be even more of a draw for Canadian football players to go to SFU.
The Clan?
Unfortunate nickname, assuming they were named that pre-Civil War. Else, what a bunch of dickweeds.
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by Jeff Junstrom on May 26, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Clan as in a group of scotchman?
The word clan has been around A LOT longer than a bunch of pooh nannies in white robes.
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- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Brad Bars wasn't even recruited by in state schools
such as Vandy and Memphis, and that should leave everyone with significant concerns. Why in the world would anyone think this kid is a “sleeper”? The coaches have me scratching my head on this one and screaming at the heavens on the Canadian kid. WTF are we doing?
'We' aren't doing anything, and that's the point
No matter what gripes we have, it’s not our decison, and rightfully so. PSU and the coaching staff are nothing like Alabama, Florida, or USC where they’ll basically give an offer to every 5* kid just because they can. When our coaches give someone an offer, they’ve seen the kid play, and seen something that would make them jump on a recruit (highly touted or not). Sure there are examples where they took a risk and loss, but more often than not (and probably a bit less often with the actually highly touted recruits) that kid turns into a great player.
Trust the coaches. They’ve been doing it far longer than any of us have, I think they’ve earned the right to offer whoever the hell they want. And with that experience, they know far more about talent, player development and recruiting than all of us put together. So chill out dude.
by dawsonPSU10 on May 25, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, you'll note that Bama, Florida and USC have won titles in the past decade.
PSU has not, and one of the big reasons behind that is the fact that we haven’t had the horses. Now I’ll give you that our recruiting has been strong lately, no doubt about it, but it is not looking good for this coming year and give away schollies to kids who could have walked on makes zero sense.
Experience does not make you good, it just makes you experienced, otherwise Kenney and Anderson would be cranking out an All American O line every year – and they obviously do not. I trust SOME of these coaches (the defense and carrot top) but I think are plenty of bums on this staff.
yeah, they suck, we don't even get all-big ten linemen or Remmington winners.......
can’t remember the last one of either……….
and that jerk quarterback the past two years,
only a 2 star recruit, he didn’t do ANYTHING for us.
We are gonna shock them with 5,000 mega watts of raw ROO POWER.
You're right
He sure did squat against Iowa and Ohio State.
How many good O lines have we had the past decade?
There is a reason banana peel, turnstile, scare scrow and construction cone have their names…
I tried being negative about recruiting and it sucked...
All I saw were 3 star studs
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Part of the smallest recruiting class of the decade.
http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/recruiting-numbers/
Pretty interesting link from Mandel’s recent article on cnnsi. Penn State has had two superlatives:
-Only school to have landed the smallest class of the year twice: 2003 and 2008.
-Recruited the smallest class of the decade in 2003 with eleven signees. Only UCLA in 2007 had as few signees. Still that class had a Senior Bowl MVP in Tony Hunt, a Butkus/Bednarik winner in Poz, a quality RT in John Shaw, and a decent WR in Terrell Golden.
I look forward to the say when you say something nice about something, anything!
"There are only three certainties in college football: all players will eventually leave, the ACC will be bad, and Joe Paterno ", Clay Travis, CNNsi Fanhouse
I was thinking the same thing.
I remember someone once pointing out the correlation of the people who use their PSU e-mail as their user name, and the general tone of their posts. I think pennlive was even referenced in there, as well.
by The JuggerNitt on May 27, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If you understood the inner workings of recruiting you wouldn't care at all
The movie “All the Right Moves” shows a situation that can happen all the time. And I won’t even get into the “recruiting services”, I wanted to do a piece on their shady dealings, but basically no one would talk to me about the process on the record, and I have kids who need to be recruited so I can’t burn my bridges. But I will tell you there is a LOT of shady back door stuff that takes place.
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Well if an "off the record" piece shows up by ysaeanilorac
there’d be at least one interested reader ;-)
by The JuggerNitt on May 26, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Tell you what:
I am planning on going to the MSU game this year. I will tell you there at a tailgate if you go. You can never be too careful.
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
well I haven't completely shored up my fall schedule
and which games I’ll be going to, but I usually try to make it to the MSU game, so if I’m there, I’ll be sure to meet up.
by The JuggerNitt on May 26, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
club football
Will this guy be effective when he isn’t permiited to use a club when playing football? It could be a whole new ballgame.
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