D-Day Dawns?
Today things get real.
After announcing it yesterday via press release, Colorado officials will stand behind the mics today and tell the world they're taking the plunge into the Pacific Ten conference, casting the first stone in conference realignment.
Simultaneously, the Nebraska Board of Regents will hold a meeting, with conference realignment on the agenda. While most people have it pegged as a formality on Nebraska's way to joining the Big Ten, some still aren't so sure. Either way, we should know Nebraska's fate by the time the sun goes down.
Beyond that, it's anyone's guess. If Nebraska bolts, will the Big XII make it through the day? If not, will the Texas Block/Big XII South move together to the Pac-10 or scatter to the Big Ten and SEC? What the hell is TMZ doing reporting on Oklahoma State athletics?
No doubt, today could be the day college sports fans from across the country collectively remember as the beginning of a new era.
Of course there's also chance, and a good one, that nothing happens today, too. As things like this typically do, the seemingly frantic pace could be exposed as nothing more than a media creation to sell premium content subscriptions.
Either way, we'll keep you posted. Try not to waste too much time today.
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Nice closing line.
Like that’s really going to happen.
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
Yeah with this plus the world cup there is very little chance of me actually getting much work done today.
by VVeRPennState on Jun 11, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah..
I should just pack it in and go home. Most entertaining sports summer ever? College football’s chaotic shuffle, an entertaining Stanley Cup finals, Lakers-Celtics (not that I watch the NBA, but still), and the World Cup.
Never mistake effort for achievement.
Ah, beer, my one weakness. My Achille's heel, if you will. - HJS
by Esteban d' Amur on Jun 11, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah I'm off today!
our conference could be quite different by day’s end. One more team is enough for me to be happy.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
I am going to be nowhere near a computer for the rest of the day
which will actually make this thing a whole lot less painful, I will check back tonight and it will be like xmas morning. I can’t wait.
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils
Did you ever get a whole Christmas school of empty boxes?
That’s what’s happening. It won’t be until next week that we get our gifts.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
It will take you all weekend to catch up on all the comments!
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
Has anyone else thought of it this way...
We’re all sitting here talking how great it would be to have Neb, Tex, ND in the Big #. With PSU, OSU, Mich; the top 6 winning programs ever. And I am excited for that possibility.
However, let’s sit for a minute in Minne, Ill, Purdue, NW, Ind seats. They will never get a wiff of a Big 10 title or a "major" bowl game. They have to be shaking in their seats. More and more smackdowns every week. At least we have the tradition of competing with the big boys. The bottom feeders of the Big 10 will just be pushed further to the bottom!
Just put yourselves in Indiana’s shoes…just got beat by OSU 55-7 in week 1 of the Big 10 schedule and now you face Penn State, ND, Wiscy, Iowa and Nebraska over the coming weeks? You’ll have no players left by the time you Purdue in the year ending rivalry game!
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
Vince Lombardi
Have you seen our hoops team?
I think we know where they’re sitting.
by Frank O'Brien on Jun 11, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I just read Dave Jones call in show from yesterday.
He swears by the Chip Brown guy. Says that whatever Brown says will happen. I guess Brown has great unnamed sources too. Just another reason I want Brown to be wrong but Jones presents a good arguement.
I have a feeling that Chip Brown is a mouthpiece for Texas, among other people. He’s being used as a pawn to control the climate and information around these changes for the sole gain of his sources. People are sharing this information with Chip Brown for a self-serving reason, no one just leaks this kind of info without a strategy.
My guess is that he’s going to wind up totally and completely off based eventually, and we’ll look back and realize he was fed this good info along with bad in order to give his sources a strategic advantage in this process. I’m not saying Texas goes to the B10, but I wouldn’t be surprised at this point.
Do you want the mustache on, or off?
Too bad.
I agree with you, and hope you are right.
I don’t think Jones realizes that reporting for Scout, which is what Brown does, is not the same as reporting for a major news outlet. Unless that news outlet is ESPN.
Brown has a close connection to the AD office at Texas. So, I tend to believe what he says in regards to Texas, but I don’t think he necessarility has any inside info about overall stuff. He apparently was just flat out wrong earlier in the week when he said Missouri had a Big Ten invitie.
That said, even if he has a close connection with Texas and is being used as a mouthpiece doesn’t mean that he isn’t feeding false information for misdirection.
ESPN has been eerily silent during this entire upheaval.
I guess they had some stuff on their shows but they have had ZERO content other than posting blogs for news. This is a huge event and they are just about ignoring it. It seems to me they just don’t have any sources that really know what is going on in college football at the administrative levels. Their reporters read from scripts to stir crap up but never have much REAL factual news. I think they are being a bit exposed in their “insider” capabilities for college athletics. When facts have to be used they seem to lack in their reporting.
I think part of their silence is the realization that they may not be tNWL by the time all is said and done.
Big Ten pulls some of what we’ve been hearing, and they’re suddenly the largest sports network in the country.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Remember "Les Miles will be Michigan's next head coach?"
I bet that has something to do with it. They are already the leader, no sense in getting involved in rumor speculation. They probably have some sources, but the risk of being fed untrue information, even from legit sources, is too high. I actually kind of respect the way they are handling it outside of the idiot commentary from guys like michael wilbon. When it’s on ESPN, and it’s NEWS, it’s typically a done deal, at least that’s how it’s been so far.
I know about your diabolical plan.
I don't know, ESPN's not afraid of baseless speculation.
The other day they had a story on espn.com that essentially stated, “One ESPN source said _______________.” And one sentence later, another ESPN source said the exact opposite. Okay, so why report it?
I think what’s going on with the expansion story is much darker. Rumors (some true, some not) are being planted. ABC/ESPN eventually has to bargain with these new conferences for TV rights, and I’m quite sure they don’t want to be seen as being part of the shitstorm. I’d imagine they’re just waiting for the dust to settle on this whole thing, for business purposes.
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jun 11, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
excellent point
They bashed the Big Ten a little yesterday but they have to be careful. Big Ten could become the Big Cash Cow when all is said and done. Just think how many good games the BTN will be able to carry IF this happens. ESPN/ABC won’t have enough time slots to show all of PSU, UT, ND, Mich, OSU, IA and Wisc games and still meet their other contractural obligations. The BTN will start getting some monster ratings for a cable sports channe.
And don't forget whose money is behind the BTN and the P10 network
It ain’t Disney / ABC / ESPN.
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jun 11, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
ESPN has to keep a foot firmly in the “legitimate news source” area of reporting, and in doing so they have to ignore this rumor stuff until an official announcement is made. But the thing that is really interesting is how they seem to have their affiliates report rumors in order to pick up a story that’s exploding on the internet. Remember that “Mizzou has an offer along with Nebraska, ND, Rutgers, etc.?” That story was obviously wrong, but ESPN had their affiliate report it so they could pick it up because it was literally the only way they could even broach the topic. The blogs had been going nuts for weeks and ESPN was really losing out on coverage.
It seems to me ESPN is caught in a really awkward situation, they don’t have any legitimate sources of information, but they don’t want to fade away as all these blogs have an edge so they manufacture credible sources just so they can talk about it. They want to talk about a story, without reporting on it, which is a unique advantage to blogs.
Do you want the mustache on, or off?
Too bad.
OU to the SEC?
http://www.ktbs.com/sports/23865899/detail.html
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jun 11, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions
Yikes
That’s some serious liability for KTBS if this is indeed BS.
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
by leeharvey418 on Jun 11, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
When this whole thing shakes out, it's going to be interesting and very clear to see who is completely full of crap.
This from Chip Brown just now:
Orangebloods.com: Don’t look for Texas, Texas Tech, OU or Okla St to announce their intentions to join the Pac-10 until next week.
Which I assume means he’s still very clear about them all moving to the Pac-10, and as a block.
For the time being though, if it’s local TV or AM radio, I’m supremely suspicion until they prove I shouldn’t be.
I know about your diabolical plan.
Also, this...
http://twitter.com/ChipBrownOB
Texas A&M, a Pac-10 target, told Texas officials Thursday they want more time to explore options, including possibly joining the SEC.
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jun 11, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
And supposedly...
…the SEC would bump Alabama and Auburn over to the eastern division to make room for UT/A&M.
Still, this is about football TV money and it’s always going to be about football TV money. More than rivalries, more than travel costs for the softball team. I can’t help thinking this ends with ND and Texas in the Big Ten.
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jun 11, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
The wildcard, I think, is that other conferences may be willing to give UT a sweeter deal (compared to other members, that is), where I doubt very much that the Big Ten would approve an concessions.
I’m still very much against UT and taking on their nonsense but I think if you split them from A&M, you deal with less Texas drama than if you have to take them both on IMO.
From Delany’s perspective, though, adding UT, Notre Dame and Nebraska has to be the absolute highest hopes his office had going into this. For all the talk about expanding TV markets, you’re now relevant in every single TV market with the addition of 3 of the top 10 brands, not to mention you already holding three more.
I know about your diabolical plan.
I don't think the BT has to concede anything, really.
An equal BT share is probably going to be more than any sweetheart deal anyone else can offer. What I’m wondering now is, does the Pac-10 have a backup plan — especially if the SEC gets involved in this mess? If they don’t get Texas, what’s the point in expanding at all? Do they have to snap up Utah just to make it an even number? Would they still bother with Texas Tech and Oklahoma State?
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jun 11, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
There were some quotes
about how the coaches in the Pac-10 are against a CCG, even with 12. Now, it’s not their call because there’s money involved in a CCG, but it makes me think they’ll add Utah only if Utah is worth it, and otherwise be perfectly happy with 11.
But yeah, their #2 option is trouble, especially if the super-conference thing goes down, they’re left grasping for mountain west teams to try and stay relevant.
I know about your diabolical plan.
What is odd is that yesterday Chip Brown completely denied this.
He stated it was bull and the bloc was going to PAC 10 no matter what. Now today he backtracks on aTm. He doesn’t know anymore than anyone else but is writing like he is in the inside. He’ll backtrack enough by the end he’ll be able to say I got it right all along.
I will say though
I respect the way they at least told the story rather than just saying “our source told us so!”
I know about your diabolical plan.
Not the least aspect of which...
is the fact that they actually specify who told them and under what circumstances. Heupel will own that station next week if this is crap.
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
by leeharvey418 on Jun 11, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
He probably did say that
The problem with the report is that there is no context. Seems like it could have been facetious. Obviously, he knows this is the major sports story right know and that he would be asked about it. If I were in that situation, I would absolutely say something like that.
by Nittany Lawyer on Jun 11, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
You would?
What kind of lawyer are you?
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
by leeharvey418 on Jun 11, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean if I were Heupel, not the reporter
He doesn’t have any obligation not to mess with people, although maybe his bosses won’t like it.
The larger point is that we don’t know what the tone of his comment was. Was he smiling when he said? Did he follow up the comment by saying, “All kidding aside, I don’t know.” Is his RB coach the type of guy who would send that text message knowing Heupel would be in a room full of reporters?
Actually, strike that, I’m with STL…the true story is that Heupel is FAT.
by Nittany Lawyer on Jun 11, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Btw, new Frank The Tank post.
http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/its-all-about-texas/
The Big Ten is focused on Texas and Notre Dame. I don’t mean that in a "Duh, of course they want them!" way. I mean in a serious/this may happen by this weekend way. There are 3 scenarios for the Big Ten (please note that these additions are on top of Nebraska):
(1) Add Texas and Notre Dame alone – If Texas A&M goes to the SEC (and it appears that the Aggies are hot and heavy with that conference with Oklahoma possibly behind them), then the Big Ten would stop at 14. This is actually the optimal situation for the Big Ten.
(2) Add Texas, Notre Dame, Texas A&M and a team to be determined – If Texas A&M decides to join, there’s going to be a rigorous internal debate about who is school #16. Missouri, Rutgers and Syracuse, not surprisingly, are named as the most likely contenders for that last spot.
(3) Add no one else – Same debate regarding Missouri, Rutgers and Syracuse (and maybe others) applies here, where the disagreement about who else could be added may result in the Big Ten only adding Nebraska and stopping at 12.
And it sounds like the Big East is issuing an ultimatum to ND.
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jun 11, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions
LOL
Nailed it! RT @schadjoe: Pat Forde writes: “Mike Garrett is the personification of lack of institutional control.”
I know about your diabolical plan.
USC athletic director Mike Garrett broke his silence on the matter by telling a group of the school’s sports boosters that the report was "nothing but a lot of envy."
"As I read the decision by the NCAA, all I could get out of all of this was … I read between the lines and there was nothing but a lot of envy, and they wish they all were Trojans," Garrett said to cheers Thursday night at the San Francisco Airport Marriott.
I know about your diabolical plan.
Their tears are so yummy

"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."
Who wishes they were USC?
The NCAA? The NCAA has no team.
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by For The Glory 1855 on Jun 11, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Shhhh...
Let him talk. I want to see how deep this hole gets.
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
by leeharvey418 on Jun 11, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Garrett said to cheers
As a fan, how could you not be embarrassed? How do you not boo him off the stage? I don’t get these people.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jun 11, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Whew
for a second there, I almost felt bad for them. Glad that problem was solved quickly.
Honestly, knowing what we all know now about what went on there, I would take a program like Penn State, even in its dark years, 100 out of 100 times before taking a program like USC. At least I could be proud of my team and not feel dirty about it after.
I am so envious
I wish my team had the ability to pay players, get caught, and have to forfeit numerous games and championships.
If USC thinks it is such hot grumpy, with their professional players, then why not try taking a stab at the NFL. I know LA could use an official pro team.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 11, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm reposting my comments from a previous thread
USC talking points you will be hearing from all this:
1) USC is, and will always be, one of the greatest football programs and universities in the country no matter what comes out of this. Multiple NCs, many Heisman winners, legendary alums. All the sanctions in the world won’t effect our great history and traditions.
2) We won all games within the sanctioned eras fair and square. These are off-the-field issues. Nothing can take away our historic wins because of said events. We marched the down the field like everyone else and we did it better than everyone else. End of story.
3) Everyone cheats. We were unfortunate for being caught. Thank you Yahoo! Sports, you scumbags. Just because we are the most glamorous university does not mean we should be targeted unfairly by your reporters. Now our student-athletes will suffer from this most egregious sanctions.
4) Outside influence is nearly uncontrollable, especially in a city like Los Angeles. It’s time that the NCAA targeted agents, managers, marketers, and other of the same ilk from tampering with our program. Our players are only human and can’t resist gifts, money, etc, especially if they are poor.
5) Everyone is jealous of USC’s success. When you’re on top, everyone else is looking to bring you down.
by Mr. Rosewater on Jun 11, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting Rittenberg post re: Notre Dame
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/13111/bcs-access-key-to-landing-notre-dame
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jun 11, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions
More random stuff
Barry Frank knows more about TV rights money than just about anyone. And the executive vice president for IMG Media who has negotiated a slew of television deals in his years in the business has this to say about adding the 16-team conference that is developing with the Pac-10: The math might not work.
…
And how about the talk of the Texas A&M to the SEC?
“That’s not worth it to the SEC either,” Frank said. “I can’t imagine adding a team that would improve on what they already have.”
I know about your diabolical plan.
Boise State to MWC
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5276064
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
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