Offensive Line Will Determine Penn State's Fate in 2010
As the calendar flips into July, the preseason buzz is starting to crank up. Everyone is putting together their projections for 2010. Who will win the Big Ten? What will the top 25 look like? Who will go to what bowl game? Not surprisingly, there isn't much faith floating around for the Nittany Lions. The general census has them finishing fourth or fifth in the conference with a trip to the Outback or Gator Bowl. For a team coming off of back-to-back 11-win seasons and a victory over LSU on New Year's Day, this is a bitter pill to swallow.
The major sticking point everyone points to is the quarterback situation. In fact, some people are calling it a disaster. Once you get past the irony of a Michigan blogger calling the Penn State quarterback situation a "disaster", step back and ask yourself, "Is it really that bad?" Yeah, ok, we have to break in a new quarterback this year. Welcome to college football where you have to break in a new quarterback every other year. Lots of teams plug in a new quarterback and have very successful seasons. But you don't even have to look at other teams. Look at Penn State.
In 2005 the Nittany Lions gave the quarterback job to Michael Robinson who had mostly played wide receiver and running back. They did ok and won the Big Ten. Daryll Clark had no experience when he started in 2008, and he won 22 games over the next two years. So just because you're starting a new quarterback doesn't automatically qualify as a disaster.
So yeah, Kevin Newsome has no experience. And yeah, he looked terrible in the Blue-White game. But does anyone think Paterno is going to make him throw 35 passes in a game? If he does, Paterno should be fired. Penn State's offense is going to center around running the ball with Royster and Newsome. And when Newsome does have to throw, he will have an experienced crop of wide receivers to throw to. He's just got to deliver those five to ten yard passes on time to keep the chains moving.
But none of this can happen if the offensive line doesn't hold up, and that's why the pundits are missing the mark in pointing at the quarterbacks. There is reason for concern on the line. They have to replace Dennis Landolt who solidified the tackle position for three years. There was a lot of shuffling along the line in the spring as the coaches looked for the right combination.
But there is also reason for hope. The right tackle position was a disaster last year, and losing Ako Poti isn't exactly keeping me up at night. (I mean, c'mon. Look at his blocking technique in the picture) Wisniewski and Eliades were solid last year and should be fine no matter where they play.Johnnie Troutman played well last year, and I have confidence that will get his grades and body in shape by September. DeOn'tae Pannell is a year older and has a lot of experience. And there is a lot of younger talent to fill out the depth chart and push these guys.
I read all of the stuff saying Penn State is going to struggle without Daryll Clark, but I'm just not buying it. Losing three linebackers is tough, but Paterno said in the spring he's not at all worried about that. The secondary should be better. The entire defensive line returns except for Jared Odrick. All of the wide receivers that helped Clark set a single season school passing yardage record come back. Newsome and Royster running the ball should be a pretty dynamic combination with counters and fake handoffs to keep the defense guessing. There will no doubt be weaknesses of the Penn State offense, but if the offensive line can play as good or even slightly better than last year, I don't see why Penn State can't go to a BCS bowl game in January.
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you mean
that hunched over and grabbing at air isnt a bonafide pass blocking scheme?
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
the funny thing
is how completely lazy he looks doing it, too, and yet 57 is nowhere near getting to Clark
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 2, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
it looks like he is coming out of a spin move (away from DC17)...that is why Poti looks out of position....or #57 could be chasing a back out of the backfield
too hard to look at a still frame and determine what’s going, if someone looks bad, etc
“Once you get past the irony of a Michigan blogger calling the Penn State quarterback situation a "disaster""
I think you don’t have a firm grasp on what the term “irony” means.
also...
did i read it wrong, or did they say our D-coordinator is named “mark”…
by Why did I Graduate? on Jul 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
when did he start going by his middle name?
by Why did I Graduate? on Jul 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
which was about the time joepa started going by vinpa
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
im thinking you
dont have a firm grasp on what a quality quarterback situation is
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
Irony
From the dictionary.
2. a. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland’s copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).
An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruityWhich leads to looking up incongruous, the derivative of incongruity.
2. not harmonious in character; inconsonant; lacking harmony of parts: an incongruous mixture of architectural styles.
3. inconsistent: actions that were incongruous with their professed principles.
This instance was noteable for the inconsistency of a Michigan blogger pointing out Penn State’s quarterback “disaster” given that their quarterback situation has been a disaster for two years now. How was that used improperly?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
The late, great George Carlin breaks it down well.
Irony deals with opposites; it has nothing to do with coincidence. If two baseball players from the same hometown, on different teams, receive the same uniform number, it is not ironic. It is a coincidence. If Barry Bonds attains lifetime statistics identical to his father’s, it will not be ironic. It will be a coincidence. Irony is “a state of affairs that is the reverse of what was to be expected; a result opposite to and in mockery of the appropriate result.” For instance: a diabetic, on his way to buy insulin, is killed by a runaway truck. He is the victim of an accident. If the truck was delivering sugar, he is the victim of an oddly poetic coincidence. But if the truck was delivering insulin, ah! Then he is the victim of an irony. If a Kurd, after surviving bloody battle with Saddam Hussein’s army and a long, difficult escape through the mountains, is crushed and killed by a parachute drop of humanitarian aid, that, my friend, is irony writ large. Darryl Stingley, the pro football player, was paralyzed after a brutal hit by Jack Tatum. Now Darryl Stingley’s son plays football, and if the son should become paralyzed while playing, it will not be ironic. It will be coincidental. If Darryl Stingley’s son paralyzes someone else, that will be closer to ironic. If he paralyzes Jack Tatum’s son, that will be precisely ironic.
Maybe sullivti is implying that the Michigan guy is very welled versed in what exactly a QB disaster looks like.
by Frank O'Brien on Jul 1, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He's probably listend to too much
Alanis Morrisette.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
by rahpsu92 on Jul 1, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
also, people seem to forget that language evolves anyway
I wouldn’t be surprised if, in the next 50+ years, the definition of irony is expanded to basically include “tragic/comedic coincidences”
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
and wouldn't that be ironic, don't you think?
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
its like a drawer fool of spoons when all u need. dear god whats wrong with me.
"I love it when a plan comes together!" Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith
by psu in the w-b on Jul 1, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay, Meaning! You rang?
We should definitely give you credit here, for the multi-layered quality of your visit. I’d posit that the meaning of Irony is quite nicely displayed when a writer from a blog with a reputation for intellectual arrogance stops in to drop a comment dripping with intellectual arrogance.
However semantically misguided it may be.
But that’s one of the beauties of intellectual arrogance, or arrogance of any kind really: its uncanny knack for protecting the wielder against outside realities, like the meanings of words. What is it with Michigan Men, anyway? Is arrogance a requisite pre-disposition up there? This comment wasn’t egregious enough to inspire me to sift through the mgotedium for extra examples, but I remember enjoying a similar exchange over at BHGP that included fun disclosures of a lack of semantic, and literary, understanding by a Michigan blogger.
by Semanticron on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I’m glad you’re on my side.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jul 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Reverse Caption Contest!
We’ve got the caption, now post the pic!
“I think you don’t have a firm grasp on what the term "irony" means.”

Crack is wac
by jtothep on Jul 1, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oooh I wanna try!
I think you don’t have a firm grasp on what the term "irony" means.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you don’t have a firm grasp on what the term "irony" means.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you don’t have a firm grasp on what the term "irony" means.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the Bos.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you don’t have a firm grasp on what the term "irony" means.
General John Burgoyne agrees.

"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i see ur burgoyne and raise u benedict arnold now that is irony

"I love it when a plan comes together!" Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith
by psu in the w-b on Jul 1, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you don’t have a firm grasp on what the term "irony" means.

by swiggy04 on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
See, not really in the right spirit, but I’ll still rec it.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont have a firm grasp on what irony means either
and that, in itself, is ironic.
Also you could find irony in the fact that Michigan scheduled App State to make money, yet App State has probably made more money on merchandise/exposure from this one game than Michigan did from scheduling it. Attenuated, yes. Awesome, double yes.
Biting of the nails is unhealthy.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
There are gonna be some hotties
some slammin’ bods with pants so tight it looks like they’re painted on. Babe, I love chicks. Chicks love me, so it’s all good.
The irony of this picture is telling Michigan fans to be quiet...
which would presume they were ever making any noise in the first place.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
I think of those stories about Bo complaining to refs about opposing stadia being too loud
such as @PSU in 1993 or whenever it was, and then I think of the games I’ve seen at Michigan Stadium, and no wonder he’s upset: he could never have such a home crowd advantage, even if everyone were shouting their lungs out.
The additions to the stadium do seem to trap noise in a bit better, though it still isn’t that loud.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 2, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you have a firm grasp on what the term "irony" means.

Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils
by psu on Jul 1, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
bahahahahaha
+100000
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
nice 1+
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 2, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you don't have a firm grasp on what the term "irony" means

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
I find that analysis 100% dead on
Penn State has often been live and die by the O-line.
On another note, the tackles seemed to better grasp (pun intended) the outside speed rush in in the Blue White game. Just hold the sh*t out of them because Big Ten refs only call holding in the inside.
I've been licking my chops for some honest to goodness football talk.
This is spot on, but I’m a little less optimistic about the O-Line. If Wiz stays at RG, he and Eliades should be very good. But from C to LT, I’m terrified. Not because I don’t think the talent is there, but because I’m afraid the coaches won’t give the talent a chance. If they start shuffling guys around during the 2nd quarter at Alabama, it will be a long game, and could quickly turn into a long season.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions
You remember that next time you're blowing chunks.
by Frank O'Brien on Jul 1, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Didn't Jake Long
teach us that it only takes one great lineman to have a successful offense?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
And you don't even
have to dig down to the bottom of the cereal box to enjoy them.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
I fear this!
I’m PSU’s opponent and I’m gonna stack the box and make K Newsome throw the ball. Great RBs and scrambling QBs don’t succeed much when this happens. What are we gonna do, I’m freakin’ OUT!!!
shoot that up the flagpole and see who salutes it!
Sarcasm?
I actually can’t tell.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
speaking of memes
Rambler, can we get an update on the bracket?
by Frank O'Brien on Jul 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll have something tomorrow.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right.
I don’t.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Dead serious
I’m holding off judgement on K New until he has some action. And I am not predicting that he will be an inefficient passer. I am just pointing out a major fear that Royster and crew (K New included) will jump on the ‘struggle bus’ until we can pass w/ some skill. One dimension is not enough to win games.
shoot that up the flagpole and see who salutes it!
If Newsome can hit the 12-18 yd curls/crosses/outs
This will prevent the stacking. Teams stacked against Robinson but he burned them with the medium passing attack. Newsome has a rifle, just hope he can hit some open guys because they will be open if teams stack the line.
Robinson and medium passing
From what I recall, Robinson was terrible on throws under 10 yards. The ball would often hit the ground three yards in front of the receiver or it would sail 4 yards over their head. Where he did his damage was scrambling on 3rd down after the primary receiver wasn’t open.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
He was horrible in the short game but hit the 15 yarders enough to keep the safety off the line.
Screen was a good weapon when he could hit it
Not by the end
Robinson improved a lot over the season. By the end, he was a really solid QB, both passing and running. It’s one of the great tragedies of Penn State Football that Robinson didn’t get two years at QB. He would’ve easily been a real Heisman candidate.
Way too bad for his career, too – the NFL coaches who worked with him thought he had a lot of potential at QB, but most teams saw enough athletic potential to have him play elsewhere.
by Bleed Blue 'n White on Jul 1, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
And their ST captain to boot.
M-Rob’s NFl career made me appreciate him even more. He took his ST job without gripe and he does it as well as anyone. He didn’t piss and moan about wanting carries or a shot at QB, he just did his job.
Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Name. All Game.
Going to the draft, somebody asked me what I thought about Michael Robinson as a pro.
I told him, there has never been, nor will there ever be, a football team that guy won’t make better.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
by jesse. on Jul 2, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Two things
I think you’re right, I really don’t think teams are going to have much success stacking the box against our WR’s. Maybe Newsome won’t connect often, but if the safeties start cheating and he does connect it’ll be lights out. The safeties are going to have to respect our WR’s, they’re just too good to ignore just b/c the QB isn’t a good passer (yet).
Second, I think the screen pass has to be Newsome’s go-to play. I hope they’re practicing that thing more then any other play right now, because with an inconsistent offense we are going to see a lot of 3rd and long and teams like Alabama especially are going to bring the house. If you hit Green or Royster with a screen we’ll shred blitzes. Once they respect the screen, Newsome’s legs become deadlier. If we can strike that balance I believe we’ll have as good of a 3rd down conversion rate as Clark did.
Do you want the mustache on, or off?
Too bad.
My beacon for optimism
Even though I’m short on it, is that everyone outside our circle said Clark would be a crap QB, a guy with no talent and no potential beyond running — and now those same people say we’re screwed w/out him b/c we have another guy who’s got very limited potential beyond running. It is easier to tune out the reports if I remember those same people thought Clark was no good.
Do you want the mustache on, or off?
Too bad.
Special teams.
Take away special teams and the 2009 team was really close to going undefeated despite all of their flaws on the o-line. The lack of a short field on the offensive and defensive side of ST, plus punting and kicking killed this team in close games.
Special teams was dominant from 2005 to 2008. Not coincidentally, that was the same time we had Derrick Williams. I really want to see positive results on special teams.
by Cairo on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Great Point
Special teams and turnovers are key. My biggest fear about Newsome is how he carries the rock like Michael Vick…..out away from his body! Could easily lead to some costly turnovers and poor field position….hopefully the coaches are working on that with him!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
Prediction: At some point in the season, we will play a team with less talent than PSU, outplay them, but lose because of special teams.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you are right,
but I am still going to prepare myself for some special teams-related weeping.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Been trying to think of this lately
When was the last time PSU “stole one” against an opponent we were supposed to lose to? I can think of a half dozen we gave away that we should have won, but when was the last time Penn State stole one they should have lost?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
I remember thinking they stole the win against Minny in '06,
but I don’t remember if it was just because of officiating, or if it was really undeserved.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
We played like ass...
And lucked out in the end, but I thought we had the better team.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
Concur
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re gonna throw our tomatoes at your face.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
theres no burger
better than a kennyburger when in Chambersburg(er)
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
im living in chambersburg
after being raised in the metropolis known as ft loudon
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
Dang. What next? Some guy from Metal Township?
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
no no
they dont have internet there yet. maybe in another 5 years
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
I’m sure they can drive over to McConnellsburg or somethin’.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I could eat some fried mushrooms from Lake View.
Haven’t been to the FBI or Hillside (Pines) in a couple months
Never did much partying in Ft. Loudoun
Played some summer soccer in Cburg and had plenty of beers at the Cottage and a few rough ones at Jim’s on Rt 11. But Mercersburg I’ve thrown down a bit in, both sides of the Class fence. Had a couple buddies whose rents shipped them off to the Academy for cleanup (didn’t help) and those grounds were surprisingly great for drinking and hiding. And my dad used to take us (when we were kids) in to that bar that had a stream running under it (main drag, right side on the way to SC); he had some friend in there with lore attached: something to the effect of some cracka called him the n word, he punched him once, drove his nose up into this brain, and he had to do some time for involuntary manslaughter. Dude had biceps the size of ….huge pipes anyway and he’d scoop all three of us at a time. I went back with my pops in my midtwenties, all tore up from the floor up, saw the dude, and just jumped up into his arms, and he caught me just the same. Also, our pool manager had a sweet Aframe in the woods in mburg and threw us a bunch of parties. Good memories in that corner of the 717.
Crack is wac
Was her name letsgopsu?
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Then forget her!
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah 15 years ago...
If not more.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
Yeah, sorry letsgo, but this is like calling Maryland our rival.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? While you were there, growing up?
I’d count that. In this case, I have to disagree with Rakim: It ain’t where you’re at, it’s where you’re from.
Crack is wac
whats wrong with nepa
"I love it when a plan comes together!" Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith
by psu in the w-b on Jul 2, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Blame jtot. He’s the one who started the meme with you and Dawson, etc.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine.
By the by, I like the John Denver reference.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen it tossed out in a few other posts
and I know I at least remember it :-p
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 2, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, don't finger me
(tee hee hee)
I’ve always held and referred to letsgo in the highest esteem. That airport/snowstorm thing was just too coincidental.
Crack is wac
if they look
anything like they do now, i feel sorry for you haha
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
You’re talking about Jersey cows, right?
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
they just arent as pretty as the holstein
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
That’s ridiculous. They’re nicer too.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
When you milk a Holstein, you’re milking Brett Bielema.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
would charlie wise be considered a jersey?
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
Too big.
A Jersey is more a Bill Parcells sized cow.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on there was always something going on at the Milky Way
I did see the largest woman ever in a string bikini at Cowan’s Gap in 2001. The image will never go away.
by BMAN13 on Jul 1, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 for Cowan’s gap.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
my dad
was flashed by a woman in her 70s at Cowan’s Gap. luckily i was too young to remember. id probably still have nightmares
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
in the immortal words of jeff foxworthy “they probably looked like those long party balloons about a week or two after the party and most of the air leaked out”
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
A peek at Magda
in Something about Mary probably would fill you in on what you missed.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
it doesn't, it was reallllllllllll bad.
you couldn’t see the bottom of the suit because of the folds……….seriously. She had her grandkids with her. True story.
I met a woman in Jacksonville, FL who had her bikini custom made, cause they didn’t make her size.
When they don’t make your size, you should NOT wear it
Thank God I'm a "Too Country" Girl
well they do make them in her size, it was just meant for a 78 camaro
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
More like an International Harvester.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Minnesota's only game that they gacked away in the 4th quarter that year.
The biggest comeback in bowl history against Tech happened that year.
I miss Glen Mason. He was always smiling, even when his team was making a mockery of him. I respect that.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He always made me
think of Glen Campbell for some reason. Mght be the name or the toothy smile – or both. Hmmm.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
But to your larger point,
you can’t claim that Penn State’s success since 05 has been at all due to luck. Uh oh, this is bordering on typical Penn-State-fan whining.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
OSU 05
was a game where PSU were dogs and won, but that’s only because PSU was the better team (playing at home) and people just didn’t know it yet.
The only one that really comes to mind is MSU in 04
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
I thought they played well against MSU in 04, IIRC.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Its hard for me to call any last game win over MSU a steal
because they are usually folding about that time. Didn’t that keep them from a bowl game? They were not that much better overall that year, PSU had some really tough losses in 04. I think someone said we were a play or two and a player or two away from being really good.
It did keep them from a bowl
and I agree. I will always wonder how that year would’ve gone down differently if the atrocious roughing the kicker call against Boston College hadn’t happened.
It’s just that PSU had nothing to play for at that point, MSU did, and was coming off a huge win against a top 10 Wisconsin team.
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
Where's the Semanticron when
you need a good arguement?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
I don't know
much by them except “Mind Bomb”.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
The Semanticron is
like a machine so why not address him so – sorry Rambler – you may have a chance at being a real boy after all – is there room for more than one cyborg on here at a time?
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
They did
It was Mills’ best game in two years, and the best team in the stadium won that day, but that was the last time I remember thinking “PSU maybe should lose this one” and PSU ended up winning.
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
Win number 324.
You are correct. I don’t count close ones we were supposed to win and got lucky and still won. I may have missed something. Ohio St 05 was a bit of an upset but I wouldn’t call that a steal.
Good one
324 was a classic case of overachieving. One might say beating Nebraska in 2002 was as well, though they later turned out to be a fraud.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Oh yeah.
Mills’ recovery after that botched snap — that’s the kind of stuff that happens when you steal one.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Firstly, we haven't been an underdog since 2007 Ohio State.
So we haven’t been in a position to steal one in a while.
There’s also a difference between stealing one and exposing at team. 2005 Minnesota was undefeated and ranked before collapsing to a 7-5 record. 2001 Northwestern was ranked before they lost to an unranked PSU squad, but then they went 4-7. In my opinion, those don’t count. Home games when PSU is ranked—even if they’re underdogs—don’t count unless PSU is in the 20-25 range and the opposing team is in the top 5.
I would give it to 2000 Purdue. PSU was 1-4 and coming off a shutout loss to Pitt and a 45-6 loss to Ohio State—Paterno’s worst loss ever—and the injury to Taliaferro. Penn State’s special teams defense forced two turnovers deep in Purdue territory to go up 22-13 at the start of the 4th quarter. PSU would hold on for a 22-20 win. Purdue would go 6-2 in the conference to win the Big Ten title.
I don't think you have to be an underdog to steal a game.
You can be a much more talented team but play like garbage. If you didn’t deserve to win the game, regardless of pregame expectations, you’ve stolen it, I think.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
In that case
I’d go with 2006 Minnesota. The refs gave us that game on the very questionable Pass Interference call, coupled with Minnesota’s missed PAT. That game was gifted to us.
For some reason, we never get the calls to go our way against UM, O$U, and Wisconsin, but we always get the calls against Minnesota. Retribution for 1999, I suppose.
Northwestern 2005 was definitely a theft
I can’t remember us stealing one since then.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
sample size problem
most years we only have one or 2 games that we are supposed to lose, which leaves 10 or so games we’re supposed to win. Just the random nature of football games means it is much more likely for us to lose one we’re supposed to win than vice versa.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 1, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Tennessee in the Outback Bowl? I’d say no, because Tony Hunt, but just throwing it out there.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Dead on.....excellent evaluation
I don’t buy the whole sky is falling BS analysis that a lot of the so called experts are making. This is not going to be the same Penn State team we have seen the last two years under the direction of Clark. We will (or at least should be) run heavy and I am absolutely fine with that. The stable of horses is absolutely sick when you think of it…….Royster, Green, Dukes, Suhey, Redd, Newsome and The Drake and Smith (from the WR positions). I think the line is key but the Spread actually will allow the coaches to hide problems with the line, which would be more evident in a more conventional offense. People can talk about stacking the box but you can’t really do that in a Spread scheme as you have to account for the WR’s. All we need K-New to do is complete 10-12 passes a game and I think the running game and D will take care of the rest. Actually very optomistic for this season!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
youre right
this system has worked pretty well for O$U and Pryor. hes even considered a heisman front runner based solely on his running and arm punting ability
It's like Hank, the rightfielder, is passing the ball on to the next rightfielder, and saying, 'Here it is, kid. Catch it.'"
"stacking the box but you can’t really do that in a Spread scheme"
Yes you can. Nothing blows up those end-around runs quicker than DL penetration. It’s still football and line play will be crucial whether it’s as spread-option offense or not.
by Frank O'Brien on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
DL penetration
There is no doubt that a great D-line helps any team win games….PSU, Iowa and OSU are all great examples. That said…..DL penetration is not stacking the box. You can’t keep 9 men in the box if your safeties (and sometimes backers) have to cover receivers. The spread can and does help elimanate this to some degree. You are correct that when it comes down to it ….football is football and it involves putting a hat on hat. That said……formations and blocking schemes in the spread can hide OL problems that become much more visible when you play a pro style offense. We have won in years when our OL was suspect at best and that. I think this group is better than that….but they didn’t show it in the Blue-White game.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
I get what you're saying
but without decent line play Newsome will struggle no matter what offense he’s running.
by Frank O'Brien on Jul 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really a prediction
I’m basically saying if everyone plays great, they could go to a BCS bowl. Once you insert “if”, it’s not a prediction.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Exactly
Much better to say, “If Penn State beats Alabama, the media will likely say the Crimson Tide has too much turnover in their key personnel from the previous season.” Less controversial than to say, “Alabama will lose because they’ve lost a lot of starters.”
Alabama will lose because they’ve lost a lot of starters.
Iowa will never lose because.
Ohio State will lose because I said so.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
If the O Line plays up to their potential, this could be an 11+ win team in the regular season. If they don’t, it’ll be 2006 / 2007 all over again.
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
I just wonder why we're settling for a January BCS bowl
I want one of those other kind ;-)
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that the o-line is the most important part of any football team
and it’s magnified for this psu team, given the status of the qb and the strength in the rest of the skill players.
I really want Wiz to play guard; I feel like we have the best guard in the country (arguably) and need to let him play his natural position unless it just completely wrecks the rest of the unit.
At this point, I take our defensive performance as a given; Scrap’s gonna make his unit a top-ten in the nation most years. So it all comes down to offense, and specifically o-line and qb. And you’re right that the coaches are going to limit the qb to what the o-line allows him to do.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Yeah, this was basically my point in an argument over at BHGP: Traditionally, a good to great Penn State offensive line will allow us to run whatever offense we desire to great effect.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
As crazy as it sounds...
We can be a pretty good offensive team if we take a page from OSU’s game plan against us in 2009. Think about what Sweaterveset and Cryor did to us…
-Run the ball really well
-Scramble on 3rd down to keep the chains moving
-Take advantage of blown coverage and hit the wide open guy
They made it look methodical…come to think of it, our 2005 offense was pretty much the same deal. Good…not stellar passing game….coupled with an outstanding rush attack.
Suprise Suprise
Brian Cook has to somehow fit in a slam on Newsome even though it’s not important to his article because, well he’s a Michigan fan. Get over it Cook, you lost him.
When did Tom Bradley
start going by “Mark”? Someone in the comments backs up Brian Cook with first hand witness accounts of other coaches calling Bradley – Mark. Learn something new everyday.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Michigan is the conference expert on QB disasters in the past 2 seasons..
so he can continue to whine in his poopie-pants for all I care.
by Artiefufkin10 on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Forgive me
if I don’t put much stock in the opinion of a writer who thinks our Defensive Coordinator’s name is “Mark Bradley.”
by newenglandnittanylion on Jul 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions
You're all confused....
It’s Bill Bradley that went to Princeton, played for the Knicks, became a US Senator and then was DC for PSU…..I think.
In the RR/GERG era, Michigan fans think our DC is the M2 Bradley
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by Aaron PSU on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No. That thing can’t go up against a tank.
Nope, I’m proud to say Michigan thinks our DC is an Iowa class battlewagon.

15 inch, boo ya.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
15" Boo Ya....?
At first I thought you was talkin’ bout Omar from The Wire.
I love how you can see the wake from the ship moving sideways
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 2, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i just noticed that sheer awesome
"I love it when a plan comes together!" Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith
by psu in the w-b on Jul 2, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we're set as long as we run the rational cat.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
The O Line
I agree that the O line is a bigger deal than QB this year. The talent at QB is ample, and the wealth of both talent and experience at WR and RB should help the new starter come along quickly. But, there are still a few weak spots on the OL, and that can be enough to screw the pooch.
The OL will be better this year, and Wiz should be able to anchor a pretty good push on his side. I just hope the right side of the line can hold up, particularly on passing downs.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions
FWIW, I *still* don't think Newsome looked terrible in the BW game.
And Brian’s missing a few pieces in that Sporting Blog piece. This situation is completely different than 2004-2005. Back then, we were coming off a 3-9 season, but somehow convinced Justin King and Derrick Williams to COME TO PENN STAAAAAAAATE. Joe was very involved with those recruitments, including writing Derrick Williams letters practically every day and telling him that he’d be the missing piece to a national championship caliber program. Joe’s not doing that stuff now. So yeah, there were people saying, “HAHA FIGUREHEAD ZOMBIE COACH”, but Joe was still pretty involved in a lot. Now? Not so much, it seems.
It’s one thing to have a figurehead coach who delegates nearly everything to the assistants. There’s stability to be found in such a structure, despite its other weaknesses. Now, the figurehead himself looks increasingly distant and fragile, and that works its way through the rest of the organization. Before, PSU could respond with, “Whatevs, look at Joe, he’s still vibrant and angry and charming.” Now, it’s like trying to catch a glimpse at Castro. So this isn’t just looking at a commit list and saying “oh crap, Joe must be old.” There are real, obvious concerns to digest here.
And it’s not one coach that isn’t recruiting. It’s more like three, and as was pointed out over at FOS this morning, the coaches who do most of our heavy lifting in recruiting (Bradley, LJ, Vanderlinden, et al.) don’t have a lot of our big targets in their designated recruiting territories. Dick Anderson is our main recruiter for New Jersey. Lots of people think that’s why we’re losing those NJ recruits to Pitt. And now Shawn Oakman is supposedly leaning toward Pitt, as well. That really isn’t good.
One more thing. Penn State is likely to struggle this year, given the inexperience at QB and horrific road schedule. But I don’t think we’ll be bad. And next year, the team should be quite good, with no real effects from not landing a stellar recruiting class this offseason (those kids would be freshmen, anyway, so who cares?). The issue is whether a bad recruiting class will hurt the next coach 2-4 years from now. Yeah, it’s a small class, but in an age of 85 scholarships, nobody can really afford to have a bad class.
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
I’m mostly cosigning this, but I want to ad…
1. This isn’t the first time I’ve caught Brian making this “Bradley is running that program” comments, and for a guy who harps hard on newspapers on a weekly basis for “not showing journalistic standards” that favor his alma mater, I find his insistance on claiming he knows who is running Penn State’s program kind of pathetic.
2. The “QB situation is a disaster” comment is nothing but insecure nonsense that serves only the purpose of making himself fee better about rooting for a team that sucks right now. Having two 4+ star recruits to come into a mostly well-groomed offense is in no way a “disaster.” That sentence is something I expect to read on bleacher report.
I don’t know if he’s strung out or what, but that’s a bad article.
And proof I don't work for a newspaper (or maybe proof that I do!)
I guess that should be “insistence”?
What about lede vs. lead?
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
and I want to ad-D
that I hope every position that needs filled from this point forward becomes the kind of “disaster” where we can’t figure out which of the three 4+ star recruits to fill it with.
Hmmmm, is Kevin from Pennsylvania?
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, are you?
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with that.
It took me a few months before I figured out, “How you doin?” is a greeting and not a question.
That's a PA thing?
I do that, but I had no idea.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I say that as well
wasn’t sure if it was my Jersey side or my PA side, though.
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 2, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
hana or no
"I love it when a plan comes together!" Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith
by psu in the w-b on Jul 2, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He should recognized a QB disaster
He watched Threet, Sheridan, and Cone battle it out before Forcier arrived…and that messiah lost part of his job to an interception machine in velcro shoes, and now, probably to a true freshman.
I mean, I’ll take our situation over that shitshow, thanks.
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jul 1, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Gah. I've given up on spelling for the day.
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jul 1, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no problem
with shitshow as a single word. Nice flow.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
No, it should be hyphenated.
Pitt currently has both a better football and basketball team than Michigan.
Bradleyzilla
I also think it’s total horse$#!+ that Paterno’s “just a figurehead” anyway. In game, it’s damn easy to find evidence that Joe’s still grabbing offensive coordinators and defensive coordinators and saying “damnit, do this.” And hell, Paterno’s taken the blame for sticking with Morelli when the other coaches wanted Clark.
Sticking with the Italian senior QB? Somehow I doubt that’s Bradley.
Seriously, just listen to any of the press conferences. Joe knows basically everything that’s going on. The organization is much more tiered than other schools – that is, the assistant coaches have a lot of authority – but I don’t see how anyone at all could ever conclude that Paterno’s not in charge of the program.
by Bleed Blue 'n White on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Because it makes bloggers from certain schools feel better about themselves and their program's decisions.
Justified or not, jabs at Penn State happen on Michigan blogs all the time. Look at the number of blogs that picked up on RUTS’s post, and then look at what schools they are from.
That’s how irrelevant we are.
Arrrrggh, Figurehead
Could drop a few words on that stupid label….
Jtot encouragement to do so in 1….2…..3….
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
that guy looks like charlie weis and curly from the 3 stooges had a baby
by swiggy04 on Jul 1, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My man!
I think he executed some of my ancestors, actually.
Got more suits than Jacoby and Meyers.
by Run Up The Score on Jul 1, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Bravo. Bravo.
"Now we can no longer hold back. It will be a terrible war." - Emperor Jim Delany I
by ReadingRambler on Jul 1, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a prediction
When Joe takes the field in ’Bama, and shows the fire is still in his belly, a lot of these kids are going to begin to rethink their decision, and recruiting is going to pick up.
I’ve talked to people that have dealt with Pitt’s recruiters, and everyone says they’re slimy used car salesman. They often employ the line ‘hey give me a call so we can discuss your offer’ because they don’t want to put what they’re going to offer in writing. They also run their camps like dog and pony shows for the verbal commits — those that have already committed to Pitt already don’t take part in their camp they just lounge around and do press.
The kids that buy into that program don’t belong here, and those that made a hasty decision because of misinformation and negative recruiting, well the coaches will reap what they sow. The thing about the “Joe’s on his deathbed” line of BS is that we’ll have definitive evidence on Sept. 4th one way or the other.
Do you want the mustache on, or off?
Too bad.
I don't have any recruiting connections
and my partisanship toward Pitt is well-documented.
But this sort of chatter reeks of sour-grapes to me.
Question about 300s and Holuba Hall
Was reading FOS this morning too, saw a blip about some runs. How big is Holuba Hall? 300 yards long? These 300s they’re doing, is it all in one direction?
Crack is wac
big
i’ve been inside there a few times, and if i remember correctly, it’s two full size fields next to each other
i'm trying to remember exactly how it's setup
however, a little googleling helps.
http://www.visitpennstate.org/includes/media/images/Holuba-2003-High-angle.jpg
http://live.psu.edu/slnoflash2/userpics/10007/normal_11rose.jpg
http://live.psu.edu/slnoflash2/userpics/10004/normal_aerial_2190.jpg
and one more for the hell of it
http://blog.pennlive.com/joehermitt/2009/07/large_lift14.jpg
as you can see, it’s more like to 60-70 ydish fields next to each other lengthwise with some space in between the two
Sweet finish! Love that pic of Jack!
Yeah, pic3 solidifies it for me. The bldg looks about 60yds wide and 100 or so long. So maybe if they’re running 300s inside, they’ll go the length of the bldg and back? HBeach, where you at? Get in here and suss this for me please.
Where/how are players running 300s, if indoors. Same question actually for outdoors.
Crack is wac
we always did them out doors....one lap around a football field...and we ran them on the artie turf
never did indoor…maybe they modify it and just set up some comes…the fields in Holuba aren’t 100 yarders
was just about to comment
and say that 300 yards would be about a lap around a football field (100 yards long by 50 yards wide would be 100+50+100+50)
by The JuggerNitt on Jul 2, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and about that Offensive Line....
I’m hoping it’s not wrong to count on Troutman, that he won’t try JoePa’s patience this summer. Please, please, Johnny, come to camp at acceptable weight and academic standing!
What are y’all’s real guesses at Center? Would love some more Olineup speculation from peeps.
Crack is wac
I would love
for a guy like Dieffenbach to earn that spot and anchor it for the next 4 years.
One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's
Me too, but it won't be this year
Did you see that 10 questions series on BWI? Dieffenbach is scuba certified and related to Abraham Lincoln.
Crack is wac
Depends
Do they feel better with Klopacz at center or somebody like Pannell at tackle. If they feel good about Klopacz, Wiz will play guard and Eliades will play tackle. If they like Pannell and Barham as the tackles, Wiz will play center and Eliades will play guard.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
by BSD on Jul 1, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you
It’s definitely a trickledown for the coaches, but I can’t figure which piece is the initial instigator. I’m trying to compare it to last year, when they felt they could trust nobody but Wiz at Center. And that was with a 5th yr QB receiving snaps. Has Klopacz developed enough that that’s no longer the case? But that might not be the right question to ask. Maybe they’re only gonna ask how they can get their 5 best players on the field, regardless of position. In which case they’re asking who’s better, Klopacz or Barham (and wtf btw? He comes over from Dline again and is a better option that Urschell or Shrive?) Anyway, that’s PSU Oline historically—they’re huge on seniority (usually)=experience there.
I think they’ve got to know by now that their four best players are Wiz, Troutman, Lou, Pannell, but probably don’t know who is their 5th.
Crack is wac
I like your theory of the 5 best guys,
but Troutman’s issues may bump him below Klopacz, who has been in the program longer and battled back from an injury.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely possible
But I’m holding out hope he doesn’t play baseball for bman this summer. And Troutman’s a legit NFL prospect, while Klopacz is a journeyman college player.
Crack is wac
No he isn't on the team!
Curious if he can pitch though. Just lost two starters this week, one to an elbow problem and another to a line drive to the knee. Hopefully our week off now can do some healing. Funny, my fault Anthony Cleary couldn’t finish the 2 mile run in time…..guess I should have invited QB14 to throw for me that summer between his junior and senior seasons.
Klopacz at Center.
This is his last year of eligibility, I think. That could be a factor.
No matter how many teams are in it, I will continue to dislike the Big Ten.
by Illegal Formation on Jul 1, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
So I missed much of the conversation here, but in reading, I realized we can combine a little something from our two favorite foes, and create the ULTIMATE BSD meme:
“I think you don’t have a firm grasp on what the term “barely” means."


"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Jul 2, 2010 7:08 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs

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