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Nitt Picks Is Not Yet On His Death Bed


Another day, another story about how Joe Paterno is almost dead.

There were the usual assortment of questions about specific players, some of them relatively obscure players, and Paterno generally had detailed, thoughtful answers.

The exception was a fairly straightforward question about running back Evan Royster.

Joe had the questioner repeat it three times and never grasped it, so he launched into a monologue that had nothing to do with Royster, touched on the blocked punt in last year's Iowa game and ended with, "That doesn't answer your question, I know that."

None of that was especially worrisome or even unusual. The problem was the mechanics (for lack of a better word) of his speech.

Words took a long, labored time getting out. There was elaborate, juicy slurring.

His head occasionally seemed overtaken by gravity, his chin dropping to his chest and his lower lip gaping open.

Heartbreaking.

 
It is what it is, folks. Like it or not, every victory, every triumph, every setback, and every loss will be viewed through the prism of Joe Paterno's age, and whether or not he's still got "it". This is how it's going to be until he retires. Ultimately, it might be a distraction to the team that forces Paterno to finally hang it up.

Star-divide

Respect is All Relative

I have a Youngstown State blogger that keeps contacting me to set up some cross promotional posts. I don't blame him for getting excited about playing Penn State. I imagine to a team like the Penguins it's their version of the Super Bowl. We'll probably do something with them as the game gets closer, but I'm trying to find a nice way of telling the guy that everyone is looking past them to Alabama the following week.

Alabama fans are looking at the Penn State game too, but they look at the Nittany Lions much like we're looking at Youngstown State. It's just a tune up for the more important games.

If we're legitimately near the level most think we will be in 2010, there is really no excuse for us losing (to Penn State), and if we somehow do lose this one, I'm afraid we're really going to be in for a rude awakening against Arkansas and Florida. If we've got the issues defensively that some fear we may have, Penn State is on down the list in terms of potency on offense. Arkansas, Florida, LSU, and Auburn will likely have more threatening offenses than the Nittany Lions, and both Ole Miss and South Carolina will likely be in the same general offensive ballpark as them.

Yep. We're just the big, dumb, fat kids from up north. Three yards and a cloud of dust. That's us. No potency on offense whatsoever. For reference, South Carolina finished ranked #82 in total offense and #102 in scoring offense last season. That's who he's comparing us to. LSU finished #112 and #76 respectively, and RBR thinks they're better than us.

Keep thinking that way just like LSU did last year, and how Tennessee did in 2006, and how Florida State did in 2005. I like being underestimated.

Book Your Bowl Game Reservations Now!

You know there are too many bowl games out there when people are forming crafty ways into forcing you to buy tickets.

Thursday morning I was going through my e-mail when I noticed one from the Yankees about a pre-sale. As a season or partial season ticket holder you get pre-sales to almost every even that is hosted at Yankee Stadium. Although I am not a big college football fan, I have been waiting for them to announce when the pre-sale would be for the Notre Dame vs Army game. So in the e-mail Thursday it says that the pre-sale would be that morning , but it came with a catch. You would have to buy tickets to the Pinstripe Bowl, which is having a hard time selling out and you had to buy one Yankees game along with the ND- Army tickets.

Now normally I wouldn't cross the street to cry about a Notre Dame fan being asked to shell out more money. They choose to live in their independent empire, so they have to burden the cost of keeping their program afloat on their own. But even I think it's ridiculous that a Notre Dame fan hoping to buy a single ticket to see their team play Army has to also buy a ticket to a Yankee game and a ticket to the Pinstripe Bowl.

In Scores of Other Games

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First of all.....

With Joe, it’s how it is and gonna be, Folks. Just DO NOT panic.

by DerryPharmer on Aug 16, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

As our inside source to Casa de Paterno, Derry

I’m calmed by your notion of not panicking, not that I really believed Joe was on his deathbed.

by dawsonPSU10 on Aug 16, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are our walter kronkite

"I love it when a plan comes together!" Colonel John "Hannibal" Smith

by psu in the w-b on Aug 16, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

He sure was panicky during the Tet Offensive

Not that it would have mattered, since Westmoreland refused to run a proper counter-insurgency campaign.

off rant

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

by ReadingRambler on Aug 16, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Abe Lincoln

I believe the quote was from the Gettysburg address, courtesy of Abe Lincoln.

by cw3jgn on Aug 18, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

South Carolina was 102 in scoring offense?!

I don’t think Paterno is the coaching legend who should be getting the retirement questions.

by PSU Mudder on Aug 16, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

You people dont get it

they were ranked so low bc they had to play against all those SSSEEEECCCC defenses! Last in the SEC would be near the top in the B10

by jrock4 on Aug 16, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

SEC Defense?

I got a 404 error when I tried to look that up…

My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
Fire KP! He forgot to turn off injuries in dynasty mode. - by Norsktroll on BlazersEdge

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 17, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If I didn't know any better, I would have thought I was reading the ending of "Marley and Me"
Words took a long, labored time getting out. There was elaborate, juicy slurring.

His head occasionally seemed overtaken by gravity, his chin dropping to his chest and his lower lip gaping open.

Heartbreaking.

@EpicTripod
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor

by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 16, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't fret, Marley & Me 2 should

be landing on DVD real soon.

Nothing like 2 hours of watching a couple bicker over a dog to provide a little escapism from real life. Exhausting.

One man doing the work of 100's for the good of 1000's

by rahpsu92 on Aug 16, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too soon.

"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno

by Illegal Formation on Aug 16, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best part is...

If JoePa was completely immobilized on the sideline, unconscious, and hooked up to a ventilator, he’d still outcoach most of his opponents. He has put the program on the path to success long after he is gone. I hate to say it, but the biggest problem any future head coach at PSU will ever have is living under the shadow of Joe Paterno. I’m not worried though. Coach Joe will live to be 130 and outlive all the sportswriters that have badmouthed him over the decades.

by usn_kologi on Aug 16, 2010 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Just 130?

He’s the human version of Yoda, he’ll be around for 800 years, and when he does “die” he’ll become one with the Force, and will still be able to coach as a blue glowing apparition.

by dawsonPSU10 on Aug 16, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Regarding the "straightforward question" that JoePa couldn't understand...

I seem to recall some other beat writer saying that it took him 2 or 3 times to figure out what that question was getting at. I can’t remember who it was, I had thought maybe Cory Giger but I can’t find the article any more.

by PSUmob on Aug 16, 2010 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Straight forward my ass

The “journalist” asked something like “talk to us about Evan Royster”. I would have more respect for the nimrod if was honest and just said: “Joe, I can’t write a column to save my life, could you please do it for me.”

by Frank O'Brien on Aug 16, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is it that the media

doesn’t get that Joe is messing with them or do they get it, get upset, and write articles about him dying soon to make themselves feel better that they were just embarrassed by an 80 year old?

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler

by leeharvey418 on Aug 16, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is it that the media

doesn’t get that Joe is messing with them or do they get it, get upset, and write articles about him dying soon to make themselves feel better that they were just embarrassed by an 80 year old?

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

-1

"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler

by leeharvey418 on Aug 16, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Issues
Yep. We’re just the big, dumb, fat kids from up north. Three yards and a cloud of dust. That’s us. No potency on offense whatsoever. For reference, South Carolina finished ranked #82 in total offense and #102 in scoring offense last season. That’s who he’s comparing us to. LSU finished #112 and #76 respectively, and RBR thinks they’re better than us.

I am sorry, I’ll be endlessly downvoted/whatever in this PSU-centric blog but you do realize you are starting a new QB, right? Be it Newsome or one of the freshmen, these guys haven’t taken a single meaningful snap in a college game. So, does it really matter how you finished the season? Also, you have questions in the O-Line.

Keep thinking that way just like LSU did last year, and how Tennessee did in 2006, and how Florida State did in 2005. I like being underestimated.

Yes, but the big problem is Robinson(2005), Morelli(2006) and Daryll Clark (2010) were all upperclassmen in those games. Newsome/whoever is going to face quite possibly the top 5 defense in college. Offensively, they return the Heisman winner and a Senior QB. To express any sort of outrage for being underestimated is just ridiculous.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

So I guess Michigan is in the same boat. I mean has Tater really taken a meaningful snap yet?

by jrock4 on Aug 16, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously, you might be right

Tater tot ( lol) or Shoe-no-lace(lol) have stunk it up last year, but the conversation is not about Michigan, isn’t it?

Possibly, we end up not going to a bowl for 3 continuous years and RR is fired and all that. But O-Line issues and a new QB? We know all about that.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

What O-Line issues, exactly?

I’ll grant you that we’ve reshuffled personnel since last season, but how is that any different that what 95% of CFB offenses have to live with every year?

Sounds like you’ve been believing too much of what you hear on the TV.

"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler

by leeharvey418 on Aug 16, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is not what 95% of CFB offenses will face, I am sure

This is the second year in a row that the coaching staff has reshuffled the offensive line in spring practice. Star lineman Stefan Wisniewski has moved from center to guard, De’Ontae Pannel has moved from tackle to guard, and Johnnie Troutman is stuck without his starting job. Joe Paterno indicated at media days that there is no guarantee that this will be the setup come September 4, so it’s worth keeping an eye on.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wiz played G before C and Pannel was at G by the end of last year. Most have had experience all across the line.

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not so bad

Yeah, the line is in flux a bit, but nothing like last year. In no way would I expect the 2008 version that dominated most opponents, but this is not an extremely green 2009 unit, either. No one really important players graduated last year. From my perspective this should be an improved unit. The shuffling you see is mostly a byproduct of a unit that never came together last season. Not anywhere near domination in the making, but not so very dire, either.

by gcdyersb on Aug 16, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Landolt was overrated

go back and watch the Citrus Bowl again, he was struggling while Pannell seemed to be getting the best of his guy.

by Frank O'Brien on Aug 16, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I didn’t realize he essentially was a 3 year starter until just checking now. At the same time, though, he was undrafted. NFL teams have trouble evaluating OL talent more than most positions. But we’re not talking a Levi Brown. Maybe more of a Cadogan. OK, Cadogan turned out to be pretty hard to replace, but still we’re talking about a guy who does his job really well on a great unit as opposed to individually dominating. With underclassmen getting experience last year, someone should step up at tackle. I hope.

by gcdyersb on Aug 16, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wiz will be better at guard.

Probably the same for Pannell.

Meh.

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

by ReadingRambler on Aug 16, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're comparing apples and oranges

When we talk about the offensive line “struggling” we mean against good teams, not against your average Big Ten team.

When Michigan talks about its offensive line struggling, it means against Appalachian State.

Adam
Black Shoe Diaries, SB Nation Pittsburgh
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Aug 16, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler

by leeharvey418 on Aug 16, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes no sense

The year we lost to Appalachian State, we still beat you.

Anyway, I understand the Michigan hatred.. 9 continuous wins and all that. My original point remains that the Alabama bloggers are just pointing out that since you lose your functional 5th year QB and replacing him with a sophomore and a first year starter who didn’t have a good performance in the spring game, if they lose that game.. it’s quite a disappointment.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Anyway, I understand the Michigan hatred.. 9 continuous wins and all that. "

Yeah that got the fire started, but it’s arrogant jerks like you that fan the flames.

Enjoy another miserable season wolverine.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Aug 16, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy now

No need to call names. He’s been pretty respectable.

by BSD on Aug 16, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you know in my mind I'm muttering it under my breath with venom

kind of like that old guy in the funny dallas/washington commercial for sunday ticket.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Aug 16, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes no sense

The year we lost to Appalachian State, we still beat you.

Anyway, I understand the Michigan hatred.. 9 continuous wins and all that. My original point remains that the Alabama bloggers are just pointing out that since you lose your functional 5th year QB and replacing him with a sophomore and a first year starter who didn’t have a good performance in the spring game, if they lose that game.. it’s quite a disappointment.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one hates Michigan because of OMG 9 continuous wins.

Does that help? No. But people – not just PSU fans – hate Michigan because you are what you are.

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

by ReadingRambler on Aug 16, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

A lot of us don’t have you. Joe Pa is adorable.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do I hate Michigan?

This

Adam
Black Shoe Diaries, SB Nation Pittsburgh
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Aug 16, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

RR is adorable, cute, cudly, Joe is a grouch

RR forces kids to spend too much time practicing and lifting. Joe forces guys to graduate.

by BMAN13 on Aug 16, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon brah.

That was money (and true)…admit it.

"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno

by Illegal Formation on Aug 16, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No deal.

"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno

by Illegal Formation on Aug 16, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

I hope they clone JoePa so he can come back and coach another 50 years.

by BSD on Aug 16, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sheldon Cooper could design a program to replace JoePa

and it might perform as well as the person it was based on!

Okay, it’s not worth the risk.

My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
Fire KP! He forgot to turn off injuries in dynasty mode. - by Norsktroll on BlazersEdge

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

it may not go well

I just watched an episode of “this american life” in which a guy gets his pet bull cloned, it all goes well until the cloned bull attacks him and rips his scrotum open. I think hiring Bradley might be a safer choice.

Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils

by psu on Aug 16, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is it with bulls and scrotums?

I blame Jackie Sherrill.

Ohio State has the worst fans in the Big Ten. Bar none. And it’s not even close. Humorless in defeat. Condescending in victory. Generally insecure all the time. I’ve partied and had fun with fans of every team in this league, save Ohio State.

by jtothep on Aug 17, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only if you admit that Rodriguez has been a dick since birth.

Sometimes it feels good to argue like a 5 year old.

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Aug 16, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

AWWWW

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

by ReadingRambler on Aug 16, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The issue isn't whether or not Alabama is a good team

The issue is that we’re being compared to Ole Miss and South Carolina, which is like saying we’re in a neck and neck competition with Michigan State, Minnesota, or Michigan.

We recognize that we’re replacing some important folks, but we’re still a bit better than the bottom third of the SEC.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Aug 16, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the risk of feeding the troll...

Lord knows, if there’s anyone who knows the perils of having a stable of frosh at QB, it’s a Michigan fan.

BTW – I just learned about the Dick Katcher award. I realize it’s not intended for an offensive player, but how has Tater not won this yet?

"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler

by leeharvey418 on Aug 16, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do realize that you are trolling your own board, right

Blackshoediaries wants a commenter who doesn’t engage in a meaningful argument and relegates himself to stuff like Dick Katcher. What’s your age?

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meaningful argument?

How is regurgitating the tripe from tWWL about how the SEC is so far superior to any other form of football meaningful?

…and what does it add to the discussion to extrapolate Michigan’s troubles in installing a completely new offensive scheme into PSU having a disaster of a season because we need to break in a new QB?

"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler

by leeharvey418 on Aug 16, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you say something meaningful,or intelligent, we will respond in kind

so far, no one has been presented with that opportunity

Joe Paterno - Not Unlike Hugh Hefner

by letsgopsu on Aug 16, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um...
quite possibly the top 5 defense in college.

You do realize that 9 of the starters from last year’s top 5 defense are gone, right? And that perhaps their best returning player, Marcel Dareus, will very likely be off the field against Penn State? I doubt the Alabama defense will be terrible, but they won’t be a powerhouse—especially not in week 2.

by newenglandnittanylion on Aug 16, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

OK, so there’s a drop-off. But the point applies to your offense too. There is no way your starting QB comes close to the performance of DC.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not

But then for two years all we heard about was how overrated Daryll Clark was. Right now PSU has three quarterbacks who were ranked in the top ten of their recruiting class, so they aren’t bums. I’m confident one of them will rise to the top and do a good job. Plus they have Evan Royster and all the wide receivers Clark had to work with last year. The right side of the O-line should be fine, and nobody has any worries about the defense based on practice reports.

I don’t think this offense is going to dominate like it’s 1994 again, but I don’t think it’s going to be the unmitigated disaster people are predicting after watching the spring game. But if Alabama and everyone in the Big Ten wants to think the PSU offense is going to be a disaster, that’s fine with me.

by BSD on Aug 16, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point is

if you think the PSU offense is not going to be a disaster, it’s a wishful thinking on your part. I can say the same think about you wanting to think it’s going to be functional.

DC was really good as a senior. He had a few brainfart moments but he was pretty good. A new QB is going to stink it up, at-least initially.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time will tell

Depends on what the coaches ask him to do. If we ask a freshman to throw 35 passes per game, they deserve to be fired.

by BSD on Aug 16, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

But then the "potency"

you state in your post is directly dependent on how balanced it is. PSU was brilliant last year because, as an opponent you never knew it was a Royster run or a DC pass and had to pick your poison.

This year, load the box, disguise coverages and make the new QB throw. For a well coached defense like Alabama, should be bread and butter.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Georgia Tech

is primarily a running team, yet I doubt you would find anyone to say their offense isn’t “potent”.

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are not running the triple option offense

GTech’s success is mostly due to the fact that opponents have few days to prepare for their eccentric offense. That’s also possibly the reason they stunk it up in bowls since the opponents have like a month to prepare.

Also, they have an upperclassmen QB.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

We run the Spread HD

I’m sure opponents have to prepare for our offense as well.

And I do realize that GT’s offense is immensly different than ours, but if you can do something and do it well, then you can hide your defficiencies in other areas. If we are able to run the ball successfully (as we have the past few years) then we can make up for the fact that our QB isn’t experienced. It’s all about tailoring our offense to suit the personell we have, and not trying to force the players into a scheme they can’t succeed in.

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

We run the Spread HD

I’m sure opponents have to prepare for our offense as well.

And I do realize that GT’s offense is immensly different than ours, but if you can do something and do it well, then you can hide your defficiencies in other areas. If we are able to run the ball successfully (as we have the past few years) then we can make up for the fact that our QB isn’t experienced. It’s all about tailoring our offense to suit the personell we have, and not trying to force the players into a scheme they can’t succeed in.

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your point is noted

The point of the post was to point out to Penn State fans that Alabama fans predict an easy win. Is there a little saber rattling going on? Guilty as charged. It’s a Penn State blog. I have to throw some red meat to my Nittany Lions.

Every blogger does the same thing, but for some reason when PSU blogs do it feeds the perception that we’re delusional. I’ve said before that I’m predicting a 9-3 season, including losses to Alabama, Iowa, and Ohio State. I guess I’m not being realistic unless I predict we lose to Michigan and go 6-6 because we have a new quarterback.

by BSD on Aug 16, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

well to michigan fans we're delusional

“If we can’t win with a freshman QB, there’s no way Penn State can”

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have a point...

I mean, they’ve won 1/2 a national championship since the Truman Administration, so they must know what they are talking about.

If only I had an enemy bigger than my apathy. . .

by Esteban d' Amur on Aug 16, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute, it's RichRod's third year at Michigan

and he always has great teams his second third season.

by Frank O'Brien on Aug 16, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Project much?

I hate to break this to you, but the QB is not the end-all be-all of an offense. …well, at least not a well-coached offense.

"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler

by leeharvey418 on Aug 16, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right.

You (Wolverade) need to distinguish between QB and offense generally. You don’t need to have a great QB, or even an above avg QB, to have a success on offense.

"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno

by Illegal Formation on Aug 16, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are exceptions

But there is a very good correlation between a QB’s performance and how far the offense goes.

There is also a strong correlation ( might be trivial to cite ) between upperclassmen QBs and the offensive potency.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the reverse is not necessarily true.

If a QB has a great game, yes, the offense almost surely had a great game too. If a QB has a bad game, the offense may still be successful – particularly if he doesn’t need to throw because the run game is working.

"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno

by Illegal Formation on Aug 16, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

More often that not

the run game works because defenses are expecting the QB to throw it as well.

Run game working in spite of an atrocious QB play might be the sign of a really bad defense. Not Alabama’s.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

So your theory cannot be disproved.

"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno

by Illegal Formation on Aug 16, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

THis statement is sooooooooooo wrong its pathetic

you don’t even remember your own offense from the last 20 year pre RR

by BMAN13 on Aug 16, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give him a break, he may only be 12 or 14

Joe Paterno - Not Unlike Hugh Hefner

by letsgopsu on Aug 17, 2010 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Run game working in spite on atrocious QB play

May I present 2008 Wisconsin?

My kingdom for a spellchecker. Or Devin Harris. Hopefully both.
Fire KP! He forgot to turn off injuries in dynasty mode. - by Norsktroll on BlazersEdge

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Aug 17, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

correlation is not causation

what are they teaching in michigan stats classes these days?

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Aug 16, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd presume there's probably a better correlation

between OL and offensive potency. And our OL should be improved. It isn’t saying much, considering they struggled last year.

by Screen Name 20 on Aug 16, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

by ReadingRambler on Aug 16, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

I’m sure there are several Qb’s that have started in their sophomore years that turned out to be just fine.

I really don’t see how you think its going to be a disaster. Even the best teams across the nation have to deal with players leaving and younger guys having to replace them. You can’t say what will happen one way or another until it does. Us thinking our offense isn’t going to suck is as much wishful thinking as you thinking it will.

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since when do you need a "pretty good" quarterback to prevent an offense from becoming "a disaster?"

None of us are expecting Newsome to be a new Clark on day 1. With the talent we have at running back and receiver anything better than below average quarterback play should make a rather functional offense.

by VVeRPennState on Aug 16, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iowa had somewhat mediocre play at QB in 2008.

And yet they did ok because they had talent at other positions.

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here"

by ReadingRambler on Aug 16, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you think the PSU offense is not going to be a disaster, it’s a wishful thinking on your part.

Please justify this statement with something other than “new quarterback” or “shuffling on line”.

Disaster is a curious choice of words.

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by ReadingRambler on Aug 16, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much those two

Also, my comments are mostly about the Alabama game. ( as you might have noticed by my original argument). It’s not about Michigan game, not about how you play at the end of the year.

Newsome/whoever goes to Alabama after 1 game experience ( with a minnow )

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

the o-line shuffling

is misunderstood.

we return most starters. We’re moving our best o-lineman (and one of the best in the country) back to guard, which is his natural position.

These guys are still working out the kinks, but they’ll ought to be much improved from last year. And if you think the QB is more important to offensive production in the big ten than O-Line, you’re dead wrong.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Aug 16, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

correct me if I’m wrong, but everyone save the LT will have played at their prospective position at some point in time in their career at Penn State.

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if you think the QB is more important to offensive production in the big ten than O-Line, you’re dead wrong.

You can make a case for that universally.

by Screen Name 20 on Aug 16, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disaster takes a multi-level FAIL

Disaster usually comes from several sources. Installing a new system that does not match the skill set of the players is one source. Lacking 2 out of 3 of O-line, QB and/or RB is usually another disaster situation. Given good experience at OL and tailback, I’m not feeling a disaster imminent. Rather, I’m feeling some serious inconsistency. Where the team can assert the run game, it should do well. If the QB can provide some threat downfield, even better. Probably a 3-4 loss season, maybe even 5, but there’s enough talent and continuity to avoid a Dick Rod style implosion.

by gcdyersb on Aug 16, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're confused a bit.

If you try a force a freshman into a bad situation, or you have the wrong freshman, you’ve got trouble. Take Michigan for example. Chad Henne, and Ryan Mallet both had success as freshman because they were put into an established offense and not asked to do too much.

Whatever you guys have been trotting out on the field the last two seasons has sucked on ice because your coach is trying to earn a million dollars a year jamming square pegs into round holes.

We’ve got experience coming back all over our offense, and we’ll be plugging the best guy out of four pretty interesting candidates in the hole. It’s much more analagous to the first situation than the latter.

What would Joe Paterno do?

by jesse. on Aug 16, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

DC was really good as a senior. He had a few brainfart moments but he was pretty good. A new QB is going to stink it up, at-least initially.

I like how he went from really good to pretty good in a half sentence.

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Aug 16, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

so how bout the michigan D

Total suck, 40+ pts against anyone with a pulse.

by BMAN13 on Aug 16, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Alabama starting 9 or so new guys on D

So by your standards, their D and our O should be on a level playing field, so to speak. And Robinson and Clark (in 2008) hadn’t taken many meaningful snaps when they started their seasons either.

I think the point being made was that we aren’t some non-BCS powederpuff on O that Bama is going to just roll over. Our skill positions are stocked with talent. The O-line has had issues, but by your own words, does it really matter how they performed last season? They could come out better than ever for all we know.

by skarocksoi on Aug 16, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously, you might be right

Tater tot ( lol) or Shoe-no-lace(lol) have stunk it up last year, but the conversation is not about Michigan, isn’t it?

Possibly, we end up not going to a bowl for 3 continuous years and RR is fired and all that. But O-Line issues and a new QB? We know all about that.

by Wolverade on Aug 16, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

hmmmm
but the conversation is not about Michigan

So if I toddle on into a Michigan blog, and start predicting losses and pointing out my percieved deficiencies in the Wolverines, there will be a meaningful conversation related to football only? No one will bring up “9 Years” or We Own Penn State, or Joe is old? Really?

Joe Paterno - Not Unlike Hugh Hefner

by letsgopsu on Aug 16, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't think the Roll Bama Roll article was disrespectful

Their fans are expecting another perfect season. If they lose to PSU in week 2, it’s very likely that won’t be their only loss. So yes, if PSU wins, it’s evidence that Alabama isn’t nearly as good as their fans are expecting them to be.

I think the article views our O-Line and QB questions in a harsher light than most, but given that we’re the first big game on Alabama fans’ minds, that’s only to be expected—we all know fandom can warp one’s perspective on these sorts of things.

by newenglandnittanylion on Aug 16, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe they lose more, maybe not

Alabama will see other offenses this year that are on par with PSU’s offense and probably some that are better. The PSU defense will have to be the difference maker to beat Alabama and I expect will be one of, if not the best defense they face all year. Ask Les Miles if you disagree.

by Frank O'Brien on Aug 16, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

This doesn’t sound like hyperbolic conference homerism. It sounds like an honest assessment, if not a statistically informed one.

by BurrowesBldg on Aug 16, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Back off Chambersburger

You may have legitimate grandfather cred, but I may resort to fighting you for this one. Or at least throw you a game of darts at the Five Forks, for her.

Ohio State has the worst fans in the Big Ten. Bar none. And it’s not even close. Humorless in defeat. Condescending in victory. Generally insecure all the time. I’ve partied and had fun with fans of every team in this league, save Ohio State.

by jtothep on Aug 17, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

a friend of mine was just there on friday. sounds the same as it ever was.

I really need to stop in one of these days. I went by on my way to the boro saturday, wedding in Cascade.

by BMAN13 on Aug 17, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't think the Roll Bama Roll article was disrespectful

Their fans are expecting another perfect season. If they lose to PSU in week 2, it’s very likely that won’t be their only loss. So yes, if PSU wins, it’s evidence that Alabama isn’t nearly as good as their fans are expecting them to be.

I think the article views our O-Line and QB questions in a harsher light than most, but given that we’re the first big game on Alabama fans’ minds, that’s only to be expected—we all know fandom can warp one’s perspective on these sorts of things.

by newenglandnittanylion on Aug 16, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you guys hitting the post button twice

or is this a glitch I need to inform the IT guys about?

by BSD on Aug 16, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glitch

Glitch

"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler

by leeharvey418 on Aug 16, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glitch

To add some details, it’s happened to me when I try to preview a post. It appears to fail completing the process and the only way to get un-stuck is to hit the Post or Cancel buttons left on the post editing window.

As soon as you hit Post, it clears up the preview issue, but you get 2 copies of the post.

by nylyst on Aug 16, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glitch

The first time I clicked “post,” I got a message saying “Your comment failed to post. Please try again in a few seconds.” So, I did—only to find it worked the first time after all.

by newenglandnittanylion on Aug 16, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The system seems to be going screwey today

Adam
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by Adam Bittner on Aug 16, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glitch

Ok, I posted that one twice.

by Screen Name 20 on Aug 16, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ewwwww, you're a glitch itcher

Ohio State has the worst fans in the Big Ten. Bar none. And it’s not even close. Humorless in defeat. Condescending in victory. Generally insecure all the time. I’ve partied and had fun with fans of every team in this league, save Ohio State.

by jtothep on Aug 16, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

concur

way to feed them their own meds

by tlrpsu on Aug 16, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blame Google

They are literally (and I use this over- and misused word very infrequently) in the business of distraction.

Ohio State has the worst fans in the Big Ten. Bar none. And it’s not even close. Humorless in defeat. Condescending in victory. Generally insecure all the time. I’ve partied and had fun with fans of every team in this league, save Ohio State.

by jtothep on Aug 17, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

A bit of a leap in logic there.

A green, and so likely unproductive QB. The problem is neither side has any true evidence to support it as right or wrong. So yeah, it’s a leap, but any argument I use to shoot it down will be the same type they will use to support it.

What really struck me was the whole “If we’re as good as people think we’ll be.” The article did point out how inexperienced the D will be, and even how problematic that could be. Yet at the end of the day, it hid behind the consensus of the lazy main stream media opinion of favorites. I’m no Bama expert, but losing 9 starters from a team that won on the strength of their defense? Seems to me the popular opinion is most likely a past results plus the number of stars the replacement players had coming out of high school.

by PSUinBOSSton on Aug 16, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

FOLKS OUR QB PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED
Seems to me the popular opinion is most likely a past results plus the number of stars the replacement players had coming out of high school.

Who’s with me?!

by WorldBFat on Aug 16, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way Too Early To Tell.......

If Newsome gets the nod, he can run and keep Bama off balance. He doesn’t have to be a great passer by week 2.

Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.

Greg McElroy had thrown exactly 0 meaningful passes prior to starting last year and ended up the MVP of the SEC championship game. He then went 6-11 for 58 yards and was sacked 5 times in the BCS title game and Bama still won. Don’t put too much emphasis on the QB position.

Should be an interesting year.

"Joe's parents...his mother wanted a doctor, his daddy wanted an engineer or a lawyer and all they got was a legend."

Keith Jackson

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by ech2os on Aug 16, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

As long as we get to play someone/anyone from the Big XII

Nobody in that league is willing or able to run and appearantly can’t stop the run either. ESPN replayed the Texas/Oklahoma game a couple of weeks ago, OU’s defense has become very good at covering a wide open pitch and catch attack. They shut down the Coltster by basically spreading everyone out and not bothering to defend the line of scrimmage. When you run the ball right at these guys they haven’t the ability or will to stop it.

by Frank O'Brien on Aug 16, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, look what the cat dragged in from Georgia!

+1 for giving me my new signature, and welcome back Sir Watters.

Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.

by jtothep on Aug 17, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

To the jamoke who puts this blog together: I want to see you when you’re 83. Which nursing home do you think you’ll be in?

by DagoT on Aug 17, 2010 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

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