Michigan And Ohio State Must Be In Separate Divisions To Protect The Rivalry

I only care if Penn State (or any other Big 10 team) suffers just so those two are satisfied. 10 other teams shouldn’t be held hostage by the whims of two, especially when one is pretty insignificant at this point. It just smacks of arrogance to me that they both feel that doing whatever they demand is best for everyone in the conference.

As for the divisions, I dont care how they are set up as long as they are as fair as possible and no one has a cake walk to the championship game every year.

as long as Michigan is running the 119th ranked defense in the country, and running the 1-1-9 defensive scheme.

I see how this works. You bait the trolls, then sit back and say ‘dance, monkeys’.

Then why’d you post it on a Penn State blog? And don’t give me that “bigger platform” bullcrap.

But this tGame crap is getting about as tiresome as the Joe’s old columns.

As Tressel tried to explain to Rodriguez why the 3-3-5 will never work in the Big Ten, all Rodriguez could think about was bacon.

How can we be lovers if we can’t be friends
How can we start over when the fighting never ends
Baby, how can we make love if we can’t make amends
Tell me how we can be lovers if we can’t be, can’t be friends?

we have a really big compliance department that handles those sorts of things. You should really look into that. You know, at your new job."

So I said, “hey, Delaney, pull my finger.”

“Don’t look now, but I think one of your cornerback’s tibia just flew by.”

“Everything will be ok. Just pray to the Almighty Zug in the sky, and He will carry you through these dark times.”

Can you tell me from your days at WVU.. how do you beat an SEC team?

“If you had Pryor you would still suck but at least you would have an exciting quarterback to run your beloved spread offense.”

I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on ‘em. “Give me five bees for a quarter,” you’d say. Now where were we? Oh yeah – the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn’t have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones..

What?
Gonads, Rich! Big Brass Ones!

You can breeze through it in about an hour.

One in favor of keeping it the same, written by SCM found here:

One in favor of change and progress, written by Dave found here:

Bonus on the Dave-written post; Brian from Mgoblog being a douche in the comments…

…once I’m done counting members of Michigan’s secondary that have two functioning legs and haven’t used them to run away from the program.

Ok, now onto the chickens.

And I thought WE were too country..

Now let’s see the Nittany Lions protect that rivalry with Minnesota should they get put in seperate divisions…

Does Delany support zipper divisions?

If you have them in the same division, one of those teams is going to the playoff and one of them is not. If you split teams, whether it’s Purdue and Indiana, or Illinois and Northwestern, or Michigan-Ohio State, or Nebraska and Penn State, if you split them, they can both go. If you don’t split them, only one can go.

is to devalue The Land Grant Trophy

The Big Ten believes they have 4 of the top 8 national brands – that’s a bonus (and the drive behind a 9 game conference schedule), not something they fear.

The big ten doesnt fear it. but thats not who we are talking about here, is it? I believe we are talking specifically about osu and michigan.

They are going to a 9 game conference schedule – 5 games in their division, 4 games in the other division.

This difference of travel to 1 game every 2 years means absolutely nothing

It actually means quite a bit to fans who travel to games. You do understand that PSU is the EASTERNMOST school by like 330 miles? Its a 5 hour drive to our closest Big Ten school to begin with.

But aside from the sheer illogical nature of putting a school closer to the Atlantic Ocean than to its closest Western geographical counterpart in the West, Its rough on the fans who want to see Penn State. If Penn State is in the west, that means the teams in the east rotate off our schedule, which means 2 teams a year that are geographically closer to us (and hence easier to travel to) are not on the schedule. Yet every year we would have Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota etc., which means every year there would be at least a few trips of 600 miles at least (in MN/NE, over 1000 miles). Ohio State on the other hand, in the east, would rotate two teams out west off the schedule, and always play Michigan, MSU, Indiana, Purdue. Those are four games with 250 miles every year.

So yea, PSU in the east, allowing us to play teams within a 6 hour drive or bustrip every year works out a lot better than playing 5 teams in the west forcing us to drive 1000 miles or fly. Its always been hard to travel with our team, but putting us out west is just a kick in the narddog.

We bow down to you oh wise one. Please enlighten us because we truly care so much.

you know the one, they are always fighting, breaking up, and getting back together, and then making out way too much in the hallway, and always make sure everyone else knows exactly the status of their relationship. Sure, there once may have been true passion, but now they often just crave the attention and drama more than any true feelings towards each other.

That’s what you’re talking about. I doubt everyone agrees with him here.

And at least he’s not a tool.

I not that I don’t understand, I simply don’t care. There is a huge difference there.

Play in seperate divisions in October. Play the last week of the season in same division. Pick one, I don’t friggin’ care. It’s all the same to me.

It is possible to see another person’s point of view, and just not agree with it or think it is misguided.

1.

If you think tOSU and tSUN fans would be happy not being in the same division and not playing each other at the end of the season, then…

I would appreciate you showing me specifically where in this article that conclusion was drawn? I think the article was about how OSU and Michigan and their fans are too shortsighted to see that maintaining the tradition of playing at the end of the year as well as being in the same conference is actually bad for the rivalry, given the new landscape of the conference. This would mean that the conclusion of the article is actually precisely that OSU and Michigan and their fans want to be in the same division and play each other at the end of the year. So by your comment alone, i doubt you understand the english language.

and 2.

No, you don’t get it – you don’t even begin to comprehend the rivalry

Are you sure you’re not a Pitt fan?

I tried your archives and they sucked are incomplete.

(Disagree about Brewster and Zook, though. Either one of them could get fired this year, based on my understanding of the Big Ten landscape.)

to retire when he chooses to. That being said, the blogging world has passed him by and he is really affecting our ability to bring in new blue chip snarky comment recruits. I doubt you can take BSD seriously as a national power until he steps aside for a younger, more energetic frequent poster.

If there is a tie, then you look at head to head or overall conference wins. If OSU was undefeated until losing to Michigan (in a separate division) and Penn State had a loss in its own division, then OSU would still go to the CCG because it would win the division. If that happened to be Michigan (cough, laugh), then there would be a rematch a week later (if it was still the last game of the season). I don’t want to go through every scenario, but you couldn’t disqualify a team just because it’s a rematch, because despite losing to a team in the other division, they still hold the division record.

but (especially if we go to 9 conf games) the rematch will be really hard to avoid, and you could wind up getting a really mediocre team in the CCG because of such a rule.

in the most specific sense of the word. Do I hate Ohio State, yes. I also hate Notre Dame, Michigan and USC. I dont consider them my arch-rivals. Most of the hate for OSU is that we’ve been the two most competitive schools in the conference in the last 5 or 6 years.

I just dont get why maintaining a rivalry game for two schools is ok even if that means one fan base has to fly everywhere to watch games.

No one, no school, no fanbase, wants to know that they in a division which means at least 3 times a year they have road trips of 1000 miles. no one. Its easy for OSU fans to claim PSU is whining because no one ever says “How bout we put Ohio State out west with Nebraska.” And even for them its not that bad, as they are 350 miles closer then we are. I dunno maybe those schools dont teach geography. I just dont think Ohio State fans would be so cavalier about the ease of travelling and the “get over its” if they somehow found themselves in our unenviable position.

I think a scheduled rivalry game that the students cant road trip to after class on friday afternoon is IMHO a bad idea…..

1000 miles = 17 hours give or take…. so figure non stop on a 12 o clock kickoff with a few hours to find parking, get in the stadium, etc…. They’d have to leave at 4 o’clock….. could be done, I guess… but how many actually would take the trip?

Let’s just invite Pitt, Maryland, Missouri, and ummm I dont know…. Oklahoma and set it up like that….

and different/harder than a protected cross divisional game between OSU and PSU? It is like you either really don’t respect the quality of the Penn State football program, or you just don’t understand logic (or more likely, are just self-consumed with “The Game” to the point that you think everyone else should just bow down to the whims of those two teams).