Nitt Links Just Wants To Play The Game
by Ben Jones on Sep 1, 2010 9:00 AM EDT
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PrintWell, yesterday was exciting wasn't it? Joe's first presser of the season, the news coming out of the Alabama camp about Mark Ingram's injury, and at the end of the day we know nothing more about the quarterback situation. Just another day on the job. I guess I should be glad to have so much to write about but it did seem that the news was never ending yesterday. Ironically with all of the news yesterday it did sort of limit the number of new and exciting stories out there. Don't worry though, the interwebs are full of a number of interesting things. Sadly, I can only share 25% of them with you here.
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Lake The Posts - Northwestern Football Blog: 2010 Preview - Game 9 - Penn State
These folks seem to think they've got a chance to pull off the shocker this year. Somebody will give Penn State a run for their money that shouldn't so Northwestern can have that job I suppose. I know there was a small faction last year that thought Penn State would have had their hands full if one Mike Kafka hadn't gotten hurt.
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We've talked about the crappy schedule, and I imagine that a lot of you won't even click this link. So consider this a dare.
State College, PA - UPDATED: Penn State Will 'Want To Consider All Possibilities For Honoring Paterno, Curley Says
Penn State has received numerous suggestions for how best to honor Joe Paterno, athletics Director Tim Curley reports. One idea: Rename the Beaver Stadium field for the coach.
FCS opponents like Youngstown State aren't going away even if Big Ten switches to 9-game schedule | PennLive.com
Hey, Penn State season ticket holders, dealt your Youngstown State tix yet? Or maybe it’s such a tough sell you’re just resigned to having to actually attend the game. Since FCS opponents began flooding the schedules of major FBS programs four years ago with the expansion to a 12-game slate, this has been the game where you dump your tickets...
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Do we really think the "starting" QB for saturday will tell us anything?
If we don’t know the starting QB for the season within a few weeks, I think it’s fairly safe to say that the competition is close. If it is close, I like to think the coaches (and fans) will keep an open mind if it looks like they handed the wrong person the reigns after a few games.
I’m not saying we should scream for the backup QB. I’m not with these young men at practice every day, and I learned my lesson with MR12. I was so desperate for QB14 after the 9/16 90 yards, no tds and an int (or something close to that) in the opener that I was losing faith in the coaches. How did that work out? I’ll support
If the coaches trust 1 particular QB, then I too will give him a chance to grow into the job. But I don’t think naming a starting QB for this saturday will give us a definitive window into who takes the most snaps in 2010 and beyond.
Paterno Stadium
As I was walking by his statue last weekend I thought to myself how could they not name this thing Paterno stadium eventually, I mean what in the world does a Beaver have to do with Penn State (I understand that there is a logical answer to this, but come on). The other thing I noticed was that when they made the statue and wall they clearly did not expect him to still be coaching this year, the wall has run out of room for plaques commemorating each of his seasons at Penn State, lol.
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils
Named after University President James A. Beaver
I don’t think the name is changing, but I could easily see something like “Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium.”
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I'm going to be honest.
I hate that idea. A stadium being named on thing and the field inside being named another is cumbersome. And by cramming two names together it, to me, cheapens the honor you’re bestowing on both people.
He has the library named after him, which I’m sure he is far more satisfied with than having the stadium named for him. I think renaming a road on campus for him is a great idea. Rename Park Ave. It’s a main route on campus, he walk(ed) it daily to the stadium for decades, and it runs right past the stadium.
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by 06Lion on Sep 1, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm squarely in this camp.
But it should be College Avenue.
Somewhere there is a cedar chest full of Penguin sweater vests.
Beat Youngstown State.
Seems more challenging with a football field than a basketball court. Where are you going to stamp “Paterno Field” on the actual field? The simplicity of Beaver Stadium’s turf is beautiful, I hope they don’t ruin that, even out of good intentions.
"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno
by Illegal Formation on Sep 1, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I've got a few problems with this...
First, there seems to be something silly about “honoring” someone in a way that seems to be pretty much against everything the guy stands for. Renaming the stadium Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium seems almost like screwing for viginity.
Second, the football program needs to be about more than just Joe Paterno. It would feel good to change the name and honor the man, but it’s going to feel akward for the next guy that walks out on that field as head coach. And what happens when another coach down the line wins a couple of National Titles? What do we do for him? Is it Paterno/________ Field at Beaver Stadium now?
I think that Joe Paterno should be recognized in a way much more akin to a University President than a football coach. You slap Bobby Bowden’s name on the field, not Joe Paterno’s. 100 years from now there will still be a Paterno Library. You can’t say that about a “Paterno Field”.
Like I said above, it should be College Avenue. But it might make more sense for it to be Beaver Avenue, because that’s only in State College.
Somewhere there is a cedar chest full of Penguin sweater vests.
Beat Youngstown State.
by jesse. on Sep 1, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
"should be recognized in a way much more akin to a University President"
well, to be fair, the stadium is currently named after a former University President…
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 1, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Right
But I doubt we’ll be seeing Grahram Spanier Field at Beaver Stadium anytime soon. Paterno is rightly honored for his contributions to the University, by the library, and I’m certain by a road, quite soon. Tacking his name on to the stadium feels, well, tacked on.
It’s clumsy, and while I see how it feels good now and I don’t think it has long term historical staying power.
Somewhere there is a cedar chest full of Penguin sweater vests.
Beat Youngstown State.
by the way, I do agree with you
especially concerning the dual stadium/field thing. I have a feeling that as far as college football, and stadia are concerned, Paterno has as lasting a name as possible, though.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s clumsy, and while I see how it feels good now I don’t think it has long term historical staying power.
TWSS
"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD
Completely on board regarding a Paterno Ave.
(Duh.)
by Paterno Ave on Sep 1, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree.
Mostly because I associate such things with unlikeable people (Bowden Field at Doak Campbell Stadium; Krzyzewski Court at Cameron Indoor). Also, Joe’s name is on the library, named faculty chairs, and the crappy statue at the stadium – I’d prefer to keep the historical resonance of Beaver Field. It’s not like anyone’s going to forget Joe, or that he doesn’t have his name on more important things already.
Completely disagree with this idea
The library is a much bigger honor for Joe and Sue Paterno than any mouth full of Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium could ever be. We play at Beaver Stadium and always have; there is no reason that should not continue. The Paterno’s donated millions of dollars to construct a world class library – let that stand on it’s own. Every Penn Stater knows about that and that is all that matters.
Actually we used to play on the Old Main Lawn,
then at Beaver Field, then at New Beaver Field, then we played in Beaver Stadium.
For the glory
Maybe we could rename Old Main, call it Old Paterno!
The media would buy into it
I am just joking, if they have to do something I would hope a road or building though I think the library is the best honor Joe would want.
We expect nothing less.
And by we, I mean me.
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...
The various schools of the Big Ten should let Ohio State and Michigan know in no uncertain terms that dissent will NOT be tolerated.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a reputation to uphold! LOL!
For the glory
by Paige2PSU on Sep 1, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gov. James A. Beaver
Has a lot to do with Penn State, Just as much as George Atherthon, Edwin Sparks. James McKee, Joseph Shortlidge, James Calder, Thomas Henry Burrowes, John Fraser, William Henry Allen, and Evan Pugh have to do with Penn State.
and...
John Martin Thomas, Ralph Dorn Hetzel, James Millholland, Milton Eisenhower, Eric Walker, John Oswald, Bryce Jordan, Joab Thomas, and Graham Spanier.
I'm fine with Paterno Avenue
In fact, I’d love it if Park Ave were renamed Paterno Ave.
But please no Spanier Street!
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Sep 1, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Paterno Ave is great.....
and maybe spanieL St?
by DerryPharmer on Sep 1, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I noticed the space on the wall a long time ago
In fact, I think right after they built it, I counted the number of spots left to figure out how many seasons they thought he’d coach.
I wonder what they’re going to do.
by newenglandnittanylion on Sep 1, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Either.....
add another shelf or expand the wall.
by DerryPharmer on Sep 1, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
We need to think a little bigger here
Let’s go with The Paterno State University and the Commonwealth of Paterno, kick the old Quaker here.
Or maybe just rename Curtin Road to Paterno Way from the library to the stadium. Someone suggested this a couple of years ago but I don’t recall who it was.
by Frank O'Brien on Sep 1, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
"WE ARE..."
“…PATERNO STATE”
I like the idea of linking the library and the stadium with JoePa’s name. Or we could just name him KingPa, Ruler of the Kingdom of Pennsylvania.
I like this Paterno Way idea... It would be an awesome legacy...
Take it from Allen Street to Porter on what is now known as Curtin Road… Then Curtin has a dorm named after him anyway… and a road from Allen to the Burrowes extension
John has a long moustache
I looked it up, it was Laaaaaazzzzzzzz
The Paterno Way idea was proposed during the discussion prior to Joe’s last contract extension. Link
by Frank O'Brien on Sep 1, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Forget the stadium, rename the whole university....
Paterno State University. Heck you still can abbreviate it PSU.
Hey why not? PSU isn’t a “state” school in terms of funding and what does William Penn have to do with PSU anyway?
ok, so not the most popular idea
But I still like it.
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils
I'm still for the idea of incorporating the area of the stadium, and the tailgating areas around it
as its own township (just like University Park is its own township separate from State College), and naming it Joe, PA.
Then we could get even more creative. Say Joe finishes with 410 wins, then the telephone exchange could be 410-XXXX. The zip code could be 16410, etc.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 1, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I like this
Although just a clarification, University Park is NOT a township. It’s a mailing address. Why PSU says games are played at University Park is beyond me. The east end of campus is technically in College Township, PA, while west of Bigler road is State College.
That said, something should be named Joe, PA.
Adam
Black Shoe Diaries, SB Nation Pittsburgh
God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...
by Adam Bittner on Sep 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I've gotta pull the trigger
I’ve refrained from linking to my own stuff, but I have a very different take to PennLive’s article on the future of FCS scheduling.
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What's the cost difference
I’ve never heard any numbers but I have heard a number of ADs complain that the cost of these one and dones keep going up. Do you have any info on the payout to Youngstown vs. payout to Kent St?
If it’s a $200k difference, is that justifiable for a program that’s generating $70 to $80 million? To be fair, I don’t believe Curley has ever cited the payouts as an issue, only the need to have the additional home game.
by Frank O'Brien on Sep 1, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
It is a 200K difference.
YSU was paid $350,000 to come in 2006. The Penn State guarantee to Coast Carolina in 2008 was $450,000, the same as Indiana State’s payout for the 2011 game. I assume this years payout to YSU was around 450K.
Last seasons PSU-Akron game had a $650,000 payday for the Zips, I assume similar numbers for this year.
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With BYU's move to..
“independence” is it resonable that PSU could get a 2 for 1 or 3 for 2 with BYU? Is BYU going to have a difficult time filling their schedule long term?
If only I had an enemy bigger than my apathy. . .
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 1, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
"Scheduling I-AA schools has been a rarity outside of a few institutions in the I-A"
I thought that, since 2005, not scheduling I-AA schools has been a rarity. Outside of a few institutions in the I-A (USC and Notre Dame are the only ones that come to mind), everyone in I-A has been scheduling I-AA schools.
My useless prediction: Penn State goes to a BCS/MAC/I-AA out of conference schedule, and no longer gives Temple home games.
I meant scheduling I-AA games before the addition of a 12th game in 2006 was a rarity.
outside of your Ole Misses and K-States.
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OK
I agree that it’s quite possible that the decreased demand for non-conference games will keep costs for non-BCS games lower than otherwise.
I wonder how the Big Ten/MAC deal will shake out. The Big Ten gets cheaper prices than what the MAC gets on the open market, while the MAC gets Big Ten teams at home. (Again, I see Penn State giving it up in the future.)
Nebraska used to always play Pacific
A lot of ACC and SEC schools played The CItidel and other similar schools. Weber St. was on the PAC team’s and WAC teams’ schedules all the time. The 1AA game on schedules used to not count as a win towards bowl eligibilty so it became more popular when that stipulation was removed. Borderline bowl 1A teams shyed away from 1AA but the power houses that knew they would get their 6 wins were playing them for a long time. North Texas St was 1AA and found its way onto many a SWC schedule.
Maybe Nebraska should play
Missouri and K-State every year in nonconference play.
Just for the enmity, you know.
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...
The various schools of the Big Ten should let Ohio State and Michigan know in no uncertain terms that dissent will NOT be tolerated.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 1, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
My Prediction
The BCS bottom feeders are going to start taking these one time payout deals. Colorado just signed one with Ohio State. They will go to Columbus and take a beating for $1.4 million. Oregon State did it with us a few years ago.
For the big programs you are going to see more neutral site games. Scheduling makes it too hard to do one-and-ones. But I’ll schedule a one and done at a neutral site where we split the profits. The NFL stadiums are pushing this too because they have built these monster palaces they have to pay off. The only way to do that is to get people in the gates so they’re looking for opportunities.
$3 million from Dan Snyder for Indiana to play their home game in Maryland.
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That's a decent bowl game.
Hard to turn that down if your Indiana.
Somewhere there is a cedar chest full of Penguin sweater vests.
Beat Youngstown State.
That's slightly different
and not exactly what I’m talking about. That was just Indiana selling their home game to make a buck. It makes no difference to Penn State who probably gets their usually ticket allotment and cut of the gate proceeds.
I’m talking about teams like Penn State and Syracuse who couldn’t come to a one-and-one deal, so they agree to play one game at a neutral site in 2013 and split the proceeds. I think the trend is going to see big programs like Penn State doing these more and more often because they are easier to schedule and they get a good payout for giving up a home game.
by BSD on Sep 1, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
At least in terms of Penn State skipping a home game in favor of a neutral site one, the payout to the school is not the whole picture. For instance, I doubt the owners of the Family Clothesline, Days Inn, and The Deli are going to be happy about a home game disappearing.
Just mentioning it because I don’t think it’s as much a concern for Indiana or Purdue, or even somewhere like Ohio State or Wisconsin where the school is in the state capital and other stuff is always going on there.
This is a great point.
But I wonder to what extent it comes into the calculus for the University, who reaps very little in terms of the ancilary benefits of the football program. In a perfect world, town and gown are good neighbors, but this isn’t necessarily that world.
Somewhere there is a cedar chest full of Penguin sweater vests.
Beat Youngstown State.
Honestly though
I doubt PSU worries about the Skellar’s beer sales on a Friday night. PSU just wants to get theirs.
by BSD on Sep 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Skellar's doing fine on every Friday night.
Goodness knows their overhead is low.
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