New Big Ten Divisions and Schedules Announced
by BSD on Sep 1, 2010 7:54 PM EDT
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All of the arguing. All of the bickering. All of the speculation is finally over. The Big Ten divisions have been announced on the Big Ten Network this evening. Here is what your Big Ten divisions look like. The official names of the divisions have not been determined, so we'll call them the X and O division as the Big Ten Network did.
| X Division | O Division |
| Michigan | Ohio State |
| Nebraska | Penn State |
| Iowa | Purdue |
| Minnesota | Wisconsin |
| Northwestern | Illinois |
| Michigan State | Indiana |
Now, each team will have one cross divisional protected rivalry. The way you see them paired up above is how the protected rivalries stand. So, Penn State will be playing Nebraska every year. It is also important to note that Ohio State and Michigan will play their rivalry game at the end of the season as they wanted, though they don't get to be in the same division and avoid a rematch in the conference championship game. Though they hate it, I think this is for the good of the conference. That rematch will probably only happen once every ten years. And though they don't want to see it, everyone else outside of the Big Ten in America does.
My first reaction as a Penn State fan is: Awesome. We all know the bad blood between the Huskers and Nittany Lions from years ago, so it won't take long to revive those feelings again. And the national implications of this game will ensure there is usually something on the line when these two teams get together.
As far as the rest of the Big Ten goes I think things look pretty good. Though Iowa loses their annual rivalry with Wisconsin and has a lousy cross divisional rivalry with Purdue, they pick up Nebraska every year and get to keep their annual games with Michigan and Minnesota.
Wisconsin really got shafted in all of this. Their rivalry with Minnesota is protected, but that's about all they get. They lose their annual rivalry with Iowa, and they don't get to play Nebraska every year like Barry Alvarez and Brett Bielema wanted.
Michigan State and Indiana makes no sense, but then Michigan State and Penn State didn't make any sense either. But I suspect Sparty is happy they get to play Northwestern, Iowa, Michigan and Nebraska every year.
Now let's take a look at the 2011 and 2012 Penn State schedules that were also announced. This is just the conference schedule.
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2011 |
2012 |
|
| Week 1 | @ Indiana | @ Illinois |
| Week 2 | Iowa | Northwestern |
| Week 3 | Purdue | Bye |
| Week 4 | @ Northwestern | @ Iowa |
| Week 5 | Illinois | Ohio State |
| Week 6 | Bye | @ Purdue |
| Week 7 | Nebraska | @ Nebraska |
| Week 8 | @ Ohio State | Indiana |
| Week 9 | @ Wisconsin | Wisconsin |
First reaction: Holy crap is that 2011 schedule back loaded. Nebraska, Ohio State, and Wisconsin to finish the season with two of them on the road? Wow. But it looks like the Big Ten back loaded everyone. Remember Michigan and Ohio State meet in the final week, though I doubt that will be much of a game for the Buckeyes. Nebraska gets Penn State, Michigan, and Iowa to finish out the year. Michigan gets Nebraska before they meet Ohio State.
The 2012 season looks reasonable. No Michigan on the schedule either year, so they will be on the 2013 and 2014 schedules. It looks like Wisconsin will be paired up with us to finish the season both seasons. Is this a new tradition in the making to make up for the things Wisconsin had to give up? I could see Penn State and the Badgers getting some bad blood going there. Madison in late November could make for some tremendous football.
Overall, I think these divisions are fair and balanced. I'm not sure anybody got everything they wanted. I can't find too much to complain about in this as a Penn State fan.
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'Sconnie as our final game?
I’m not feeling that at all. Might as well have kept the MSU “rivalry”.
by PennStateBasketball on Sep 1, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
Will it definitely be every year though?
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
I'd rather Wisky
Good team, and they dont call stupid timeouts
Penn State isn't just football, it's life.
@Ben_Jones88
just stupid offsides on the kickoff
thankfully that rule didn’t last.
Also, these are injuries that took place at Wisconsin in the past decade that really affected the team:
Zack Mills
then about 2 plays later Michael Robinson
then a couple years later JoePa’s knee.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 1, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You probably have the same chance of avoiding the JoePa tackle as Charlie Weis does...
Maybe a little better.
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Rambler, is that your question?
from ‘Guy’ in reading?
Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.
Bolden Despite Them?
Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.
Who cares?
Go Owls!
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure anybody got everything they wanted.
Michigan and Ohio State got what they wanted.
Despair!
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
They will blow their top if/when
they announce cross divisionals won’t count.
But they will count.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but they will.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The rules are:
1) Michigan and Ohio State
2) Money
3) Write as we go along.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So what you're saying is,
“To hell with the Big 10”?
I’m on board.
"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno
by Illegal Formation on Sep 1, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
to hell with the Big 10!
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it's "To hell with the SEC!"
Followed by “To hell with Michigan!”
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
The latter is redundant.
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by TheK-GunNeedsReloaded on Sep 2, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they got 90 minutes yet
Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.
I feel like the longer they don't say it
the more likely they are to add later, oh, by the way, cross divisionals don’t count for record in division.
Looks like it,
unless they want to continue to float it like they did the OSU-UM game not being the capper. But the way they dodged the crap out of it in the last segment makes me think they’re waiting to sneak it out when no one is looking.
I think they will
I think it’s implied because that’s what other conferences do. If they didn’t count I’m sure they would make that clear.
by BSD on Sep 1, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Who knows, but I disagree. If it was common sense they would have just said it when they were asked twice about it. Instead they totally dodged it.
Plus Michigan AD said a week ago that they didn’t. Obviously could change, but that’s probably the default right now.
If they don't count.
I think it’s an indication that they seriously considering an expansion to 16 teams in the near future. Why create a sense of separation in the conference with less than equal games?
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by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sleep in peace.
And hope you will wake up!
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
barf
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy, now, Guy
You know you like that scruff, product and mulllet.
Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.
Scruff – burn
Product – burn
Mullett – burn. But admire first.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
For those of you who haven't been back to the main page, Bolden is our starter.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
you provide good service
Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.
TWSS?
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Sep 2, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wanna see them try to get down off that set.
Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.
No.
Dave Brandon and that black guy are busy on the floor.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably. With some other things.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Gene Smith.
I don’t really want to call him “That black guy”.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
nice recant
smart update. I’ll stick with calling him an Ohio State cliche.
Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.
I have a lot to absorb, I am just hearing this news
but was whoever posted they will be the Schlembler and Hayes divisions serious? Cause I will have to kill mself
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werd
how’d dude get a TV gig? Sporting News, hmmm.
Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.
I don't understand why some are so angry.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
Why I am angry.
- No geography.
- TV people get their way.
- Dave Brandon is smug. Michigan got they wanted. “It doesn’t get any better.”
- The criteria for this apparently started with “Make sure UM and OSU are happy.”
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I just think that PSU lucked out.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
that will haunt us
our “easier division” or “lucking out” will come back to bite us end of season
Easier Division
It might be slightly easier, but we still play Nebraska every year.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
How is this easier
Yeah we get the bottom feeders but tOSU is better than anyone in the other division and we get Nebraska who will be the best in the other division more often than anyone else.
by Frank O'Brien on Sep 1, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You also get Wisconsin.
And the traditional bottom feeder of Indiana.
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I just put a post up about this.
I don’t think it will.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Thilled
Beats me too. This worked out pretty awesome for PSU.
I think pure geography would have been better for the conference, but PSU is better off having UM and tOSU split. Sure, I’d rather end the season with tOSU, but ending with Wisconsin is pretty cool.
I love love love the season ending game against Wisconsin.
Soooo much better than Michigan State.
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I like it...
back loaded schedule means the conference stays on the “front page” at the end of the season.
If only I had an enemy bigger than my apathy. . .
This looks interesting.
Odds are, we’ll have OSU, UM, Neb. and PSU frequently all sitting at like 7-0/6-1 going into week 9 (add a week for bye people).
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Good and bad
Late season losses are harder to overcome with the voters than early season losses.
by BSD on Sep 1, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes...
but conference no longer “goes away” at the end of November. For Big Ten its about viewers and pub. Wins and losses are secondary.
If only I had an enemy bigger than my apathy. . .
by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 1, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
on the other hand
the teams are more likely to be undefeated (or only one loss) at this point, so they should be high in the rankings. Whoever wins the matchup then should get a huge boost from that as well.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 1, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry Jugger
I just posted this above without reading far enough down. Should legitimately have 4 teams in the top 10-15 (if UM recovers) around week 9-10 every year.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Fact fact:
PSU combined 34-4 against division foes Purdue, Indiana, & Illinois since 1993
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Indiana
They’ve still never beaten us. Hopefully we can keep this going until the division realignment.
Also, this is my first post. hooray!
Gradulations.
You’re on the board. Now you can search yourself and get a result!
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Sep 2, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You can take it from this guy
He knows a thing or two about searching oneself.
Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.
holy crap
anyone see this yet? im probably late to the game….
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/15225/robert-boldens-camp-surge-secures-top-qb-job
tWWL talking about this now
mostly about O$U/MU, they think they have have done a good job maintaining competitive balance and protecting rivalries
Joe Paterno - Not Unlike Hugh Hefner
Uh no.
No they haven’t. They fail Rivalry Protection 101 forever.
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I feel bad for you guys.
But you get Minnesota, right? That’s better than Iowa/Purdue…
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Sure.
Let’s just act like I’m the only one happy with Michigan and Ohio State getting their demands met again.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about their fans.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
In Rambler World
what would’ve been your preferred outcome? David Brandon’s headless corpse impaled on a pike and Iowa getting an immediate bye to the conference championship game?
I don’t know, I just feel like just about everybody gave a little to gain a good bit. Just because UM and OSU get to keep their cute little slapfest at the end of the season isn’t a reason for me to lose my mind.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
East: OSU, PSU, UM, MSU, IU, Purdue.
West: NU, Iowa, Minny, NW, Ill., Wiscy.
Not this sillyness. They spent far too much time patting themselves on the backs for “saving” THE GAME.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
East/West was better. But splitting up the big 4 teams wasn’t about what UM/tOSU wanted, but what the TV networks and probably what other teams in the conference wanted (I’d guess that all the teams wanted to have at least one of tOSU or UM in their divisions).
agree
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
They didn't get everything they wanted
They didn’t get put in the same division like they wanted. Now they actually have to beat more than each other to go to the CCG. That’s what they wanted.
by BSD on Sep 1, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn’t get put in the same division like they wanted.
Their fans and their AD are not the same people.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not happy with it...
But I mean I don’t see how anyone got really screwed over with the division alignment, so if OSU and Mich are happy it’s not at the expense of anyone else.
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Wisconsin got kinda screwed: They don’t play Iowa annually (a big rivalry). They don’t pick up Nebraska annually (they were pushing hard for it). And they don’t end the season with Minnesota (the one big rival they retained). They are a kinda geographical outcast in their division.
But besides Wisconsin, everyone else made out pretty fairly, I think.
I think we'll learn to deal with it.
Yeah, it sucks to lose the Iowa game on a yearly basis. But I think we’re excited at the opportunity we’ve gotten to play you guys and OSU every year. I’ve always respected PSU, and I’m looking forward to seeing you guys on a regular basis.
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On, Wisconsin!
by John Veldhuis on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad to hear this.
If we can play you at the end of every season, I’d be thrilled—huge upgrade over MSU, which never felt like much of anything.
I've always wondered about that.
PSU joined back before I was paying attention. Did they give you your member papers and basically say “Oh by the way- you’re playing MSU for a trophy now”?
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by John Veldhuis on Sep 1, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It seemed that way,
But I believe it was something that the current President, Joab Thomas, agreed to as well. At the time, MSU didn’t have a REAL rival either, being the red-headed step child of the Michigan-OSU rivalry. We came in as the red-headed step child of the Big Ten, so maybe all along WE should have been playing for the RHSC trophy and not the Land Grant Trophy. The 1993 game was exciting. It was down to the wire and Kerry Collins really came into his own in that game (It was also over Thanksgiving weekend that year). After that, though, it hasn’t really meant anything to PSU fans.
For the glory
Yeah, kinda.
Minnesota was the first Big Ten team we played in conference, so that’s why we started a trophy game with them.
MSU was picked as our season ending “rivalry” game partially because they didn’t really have a fixed rival already, but also because MSU was the most played opponent in the Big Ten for PSU. They basically created the most lame trophy possible as a result so we could have another trophy game.
Honestly, no one at PSU cares about either trophy. Neither is even all that interesting. I saw somewhere that PSU and Wisconsin would play for a trophy that was a keg now, but I’m 99% certain that was a joke. Would be cool though.
The Lager Trophy, sponsored by Yuengling!
I could get behind that!
For the glory
by Paige2PSU on Sep 1, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Solid Snake: Not even close!
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
http://mediagallery.usatoday.com/Ten-schools%27-new-college-football-uniforms/G1729
thats pretty neat.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter
i assume the 2nd one
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter
I'm sure Nike would come up with some pretty decent looking uni's
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter
I hope you're kidding.
Please tell me you’re kidding.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
We can't go back for a game with numbers on the helmets?
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter
Give Nike an inch
And they will rape your grandmother and shoot your dog.
There is no way I want them to have the slightest ability to alter the unis.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
Oregon knows from experience.
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Its their only recruiting point.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
What are you basing that on?
Somewhere there is a cedar chest full of Penguin sweater vests.
Beat Youngstown State.
jesse, please help me.
These people here. They are not filled with rage. Help me fill them with rage.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm actually exhausted with rage.
I feel similar to how I felt after the Iowa game last year.
The bow down to Ohio State and Michigan is just so effing stupid. The whole thing works perfectly if they would just play in October. This confrence’s failure to insist on that is going to be a problem.
I very much disagree with Mike. Nobody wants to see those teams play two weeks in a row, except maybe them. The networks will think they like it the first time, and after that, not so much. And have I mentioned that it’s obviously stupid. It’s an epic miscalculation, and it’s a ticking time-bomb.
Not to mention horking our home game with Ohio State next year. Or the the fact that if they beat us they are in the CCG, while if we beat them, we still have to play at Wisconsin.
It’s bad. The only consolation is that it’s not likely to be a problem terribly often. It’s a principal issue to me. Ten other schools should heve been dead set against this. Ten. There is no logical reason to have caved an inch here.
Somewhere there is a cedar chest full of Penguin sweater vests.
Beat Youngstown State.
by jesse. on Sep 1, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s responses like this that restore faith in me that no matter what people will complain. There’s always something you can find to gripe about if you try hard enough.
Honestly, nothing the conference did would have made people happy. Split the conference East/West – why did tOSU and UM go in the same division, it’s too lopsided. Put PSU in a West division with Neb and keep UM/tOSU together – why is PSU getting screwed for tOSU/UM. Pair PSU with MSU as a rivalry game – the Big Ten doesn’t want to take attention away from “The Game”. Etc. Lots of things could have gone on to show that the Big Ten really was bowing down to UM/tOSU.
I mean, the fact that they split up tOSU and UM is massive. It’s a big concession on their part. No one in their fan bases wanted it and most people hate the idea of them rematching. But to hear some people, the conference just rolled over for UM and tOSU just doing whatever they wanted. No, the fans and schools wanted to keep the game last. I think it’s stupid, but they wanted it and they got something. It’s give and take. All schools wanted some things and didn’t want others.
I’m sure PSU was adamantly against being in a division without some of the more “Eastern” teams. And they got mostly a good geographic division. I’m sure PSU wanted to play Nebraska annually. And they did. I’m sure PSU wanted to have a decent final game for the season. Well, they probably preferred tOSU but Wisconsin isn’t half bad. You win some, you lose some.
RUNNING DOG
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
jesse., you must respond to this challenge.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Or to simplify, basically there are those who seem to think that unless the conference totally screwed tOSU and UM and their rivalry that they are bowing down to tOSU/UM. Obviously, that one game is important to those teams. Just like playing Indiana is probably important to Purdue. The conference has tried to accommodate a lot of teams’ wants. Keeping the tOSU/UM game the final weekend is just one part of the juggling act.
Unless the conference screws OSU and UM and their little love session they are bowing down to OSU and UM.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And if they really cared about any other rivalry, they would have used East/West because it would have preserved rivalries without cross-division games or this "UM-OSU two weeks in a row possibility" silliness.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We would have got screwed on straight geography
They would have given us Nebraska as a protected rivalry, and every year we would have had to go through them, OSU, and Michigan.
by BSD on Sep 1, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh
That sounds cool to me.
Ohio State, UM, and NU? That’s why we signed up for this bidness.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, an important note:
Wisconsin is currently better than Michigan.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea but that won't last long
Who here seriously thinks that in 3-4 years Mich won’t be back to the type of team that reeled off 9 straight victories against us?
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Me.
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
And before you know it, you lose to Indiana.
Don’t bring on that karma. Just don’t.
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Me.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Sep 2, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions
me
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Me.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 2, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you sir
Another bad season and RichRod is gone. Which means they’ll hunt down a competent coach (not another flash-in-the-pan), and in 2-3 seasons, Michigan will be better. Maybe not MNC calibur, but at least good enough to be annoying.
"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."
and that's the type of team you think will win 9 straight against us?
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 2, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
They beat us in 2005 and 2007
with less-than-stellar teams. I’m not saying that they will have another 9-game winning streak against us, but if things work out “right” for them, we might actually have close games to worry about.
"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."
If they did straight East/West, they would be little reason for any permanent cross over games, so there probably wouldn;t have been any.
Anyway, they didn’t do straight East/West because they perceived that separating the top 4 teams (at least traditionally) was important. I disagree, but that’s how it is. I really doubt tOSU/UM would have vetoed or had a problem with East/West.
I do have a question though:
if there wasn’t bias towards THE GAME and tOSU and scUM, and having them play at the end of the season, why is our protected rivalry not also on the last day of the season?
jtGame is always played at noon, correct? Why go out of their way to move our protected cross division team into the last quarter of the season instead of “rivalry week”?
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 1, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because
Playing Nebraska on the last game of the season would be stupid…just like OSU-UM on the last game of the year is stupid.
by BSD on Sep 1, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose you're right
The cross division should be in the middle of the season so that there is 0.0% chance of there being a repeat in the CCG from the week before.
I guess I’m still thinking in old schedule format and forgetting about the championship.
rec'd for jtGame
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
People might complain no matter what...
And that statement might apply to me if I had been writing about this topic for months arguing that pretty much the only thing that I considered to be unacceptable was blatent pandering to Michigan and Ohio State.
It’s true, they didn’t get exactly what they wanted, which frankly requires a time machine. What they wanted was to play the last game of the season. Their second demand was to play for the Big Ten title. They got both. It’s not perfect, but it’s as good as they were going to get with the laws of physics such as they are. Michigan and Ohio State didn’t have one demand for their game, they had two, and eventually it’s going to embarass the confrence big time.
Nobody, on any blog, on any televison program, or in any newspaper has given any substantive reason for Michigan and Ohio State have this exception carved out for them besides they’re Michigan and Ohio State. That’s not a reason. I won’t bother to write another litany of the reasons this is stupid, because it’s done.
Penn State’s confrence bows to the whims of two of it’s members even when all reason and logic dictate against it. That’s why I’m pissed.
Somewhere there is a cedar chest full of Penguin sweater vests.
Beat Youngstown State.
by jesse. on Sep 2, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
pink and black anyone?
"It was fun. It really was, ... People say to me, 'Why don't you give it up?' I don't want to miss out on this stuff, because I'm having a good team. I've never had a bad season when I didn't have a good time." JVP
by psu in the w-b on Sep 1, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh dear GOD.
Thanks for the nightmare.
"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD
I would think saying no.
Look at our uniforms and then look at the uniform that Jack Ham wore.
"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway
Blue pants and white jerseys?
(I think that would just look weird myself. But its an idea.)
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
ew no
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Nike pays a ton of money to these schools for the one use of the uni.
More than a BCS Bowl payout. If the PSU AD is strapped for cash, expect Penn State, “to wear their first pink and black jerseys in over a century,” or something like that.
Bloggin' at joepasdoghouse.com
Uh...
Alabama’s uniform looks EXACTLY THE SAME
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
The numbers are "houndstooth"
On a related note. The Horned Frogs will debut their “reptilian” pants – Frogs are Amphibians.
I believe HornedFrogs
arent actually frogs, but lizards. Phrynosoma cornutum to be exact. The Texas Horned Frog (aka Horned Lizard).
I'm pretty sure
that you mixed up Iowa-Purdue and MSU-Indiana as protected rivals.
by newenglandnittanylion on Sep 1, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
Does it matter
Unless Im missing something, there’s no rivalry there anyways. Iowa and MSU kinda lost out on the cross-over. All three probably wanted us, and we said screw it, we’ll take Neb
I prefer Whiskey over MSU to end the season...that would be a hell of a road trip if there is a lot on the line
No major complaints but would prefer to play Iowa over Whiskey every year but NU is a bigtime pickup
http://www.fletcforum.com/2010/08/09/using-crossfit-to-train-for-physical-efficiency-battery-peb/
I actually prefer Wisconsin to Iowa. Iowa is a bit more “flavor of the month” compared to Wisconsin’s more sustained success. And Madison is a cooler place to visit (at least from what I hear, never been to Iowa City).
actually it is probably reversed
Iowa is more of a traditional, longstanding power, while Wisky is more Johnny-come-lately. Both are pretty comparable, though.
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 1, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s true, but I’m talking our time in the conference. Also, the talent base for Wisconsin is probably better than Iowa given the populations of their states and that Wisconsin is closer to more fertile areas (like Ohio and PA). Plus Wisconsin is the only 1-A school in their state.
I guess what I’m saying is I think Wisconsin is more likely to be consistently good in the future than Iowa. Though it’s obviously up in the air.
I think being in this division will help Wisconsin have sustained success.
We need a bigger presence on the east cost. We’ve recruited well in Florida because of the (seemingly) annual trips for bowl games, but we’ve lost a foothold on the coast after Alvarez retired.
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by John Veldhuis on Sep 1, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Also - How many "other" home games next year? 4? Where do we put in the OCC people?
http://www.fletcforum.com/2010/08/09/using-crossfit-to-train-for-physical-efficiency-battery-peb/
So basically, I just wasted 90 minutes with nonsensical all caps ranting.
Nobody can stop the Ramblin’ Man.
Play that Waylon Jennnings.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
You're just getting in shape for the season.
You gotta be ready to bring your A-game to open thread Saturdays.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
I better move away,
I’m standing too close to the flame.
"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway
by SubLime on Sep 1, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FOOTBALL TOMORROW!!!!
Never thought I’d be so excited to see Pryor. Everybody does.
it's Cryor
and i hope Marshall breaks his leg or tears his ACL
my fiance went to marshall and has a friend who played fball there…he called and asked a few of his old friends to go after him as a joke
Classy.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, don't wish for him to lose.
You know what that would do to this conference?
OH PLEASE
Don’t try that argument anymore.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not an argument.
You think if they lose to Marshall, we won’t here all the “b10 is still a joke” from every non-b10 region.
unless we lose to OSU
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
As far as I'm concerned, the following is a fact:
Ohio State cannot help the Big Ten’s reputation. I actually rooted for those losers before they choked against SC last year. Never again. Frankly, I don’t care. It’s up to us to carry forth our own reputation.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you too
the media will always find something to say about the Big 10/11/12
Joe Paterno - Not Unlike Hugh Hefner
but
us beating the defending nat’l champ on the road would negate that!
have the faith
No it wouldn't
“Mark Ingram didn’t play/wasn’t at 100%… Penn State got lucky”
http://unemployedsportsreporters.wordpress.com
Alabama fans always have an excuse.
If it’s not Ingram, it will be, “yeah, but we played in 100 degree weather and NO ONE can play in that” despite the illogical nature of the argument. They’re Alabama fans, that’s what they do.
For the glory
Believe it.
Right now, it’s all ‘Richardson is a beast – maybe better than Ingram and PSU is teh sux’, but if we win, it’ll be ‘But we didn’t have Ingram, so PSU is teh sux’.
Sigh. They’ve got all bases covered here.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Sep 2, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying I wouldn't laugh.
But it would be a disaster.
I would laugh
And not a total disaster. Michigan losing to appalacian state was hilarious. Also, Ohio state choking in the NCG had more to do with the Big10’s reputation than that performance
by psuphysicist on Sep 2, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It had a little to do
with a team that shouldn’t have gotten there, too.
Maybe the Buckeyes fell asleep and LSU smoked them. But I always felt Todd Boeckman was doomed. He didn’t have a great pocket presence (outside of Happy Valley). He didn’t have the best decision making (especially against Illinois and 08 USC)
Bottom line: that OSU team just wasn’t MNC worthy. Without Pittsburgh’s WTF-worthy upset of WVU and Kansas getting a BCS slot, Missouri plays Ohio State in the national title.
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to do the best we can, fine.
But if OSU loses to Marshall, we will have no chance to get any credit for a win or close loss to them.
I don't care.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, you don't care.
There’s no room to argue with that.
But if that’s where you’re going, keep it to yourself next time. If you don’t care, then don’t comment on it at all.
I just don't think it really matters.
If Ohio State is bad enough to lose to Marshall, then by gosh they’re bad enough to lose to Marshall and we probably don’t deserve credit.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah hah.
That’s different from you don’t care.
And you know that’s not true, if we beat OSU last year would you have said that we should beat them? That they weren’t any good because they lost to Purdue and we shouldn’t count it as a good win?
Let me clarify.
If we lose to a team that lost to Marshall, we probably shouldn’t get big time credit for beating big time team who lost to Marshall.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
But that's exactly the point.
The outcome of their game against Marshall has no real impact on their game against us. But it does have an impact on the perception of the outcome of our game against them. Why wouldn’t you want them to be perceived as best as possible when we play them? It doesn’t make sense. Especially when you are talking about the team that has as much of an impact on the conference image as any other team.
Because they're Ohio State!
I don’t care about the conference’s image if it means I have to hope Ohio State wins football games.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You only have to hope they win 4 non-conference games and a bowl game. Then you can root for them to go 0-8 in conference.
No I don't.
I don’t and I won’t.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
rambler
is it that much hatred for to$u why you don’t care??
bc if so that is a great reason and that is caring…just backwards!
Your ideas
are intriguing to me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
by ChrisHarrell's_stache05 on Sep 1, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I cheer for ACC teams
more than I cheer for Ohio State.
Which, outside of the Rose Bowl, is not at all.
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Until the BCS changes, I will always disagree w/Rambler on this point
Here is why opinion & perception matter. Go back to 2005 when USC / Texas / PSU were 1,2,3. Even if Manningham didn’t catch that pass, we all knew that PSU would not have jumped USC/UT to get a shot in the MNC. However, if the opinion/percpetion of the Big Ten at the time was one of dominance, PSU would have been included in the MNC and either UT or USC left out.
This is why I will always root for B10 teams in OOC games. If and when the system changes, I’ll reconsider the above.
to be fair
I think the reason we wouldnt have jumped USC/Texas has less to do with conference perception and more to do with the fact that we were unranked to start the season and USC, Texas were at the top. Even if the Big Ten was the highest perceived conference, I dont think we would have started any higher in the polls (or high enough to make us relevant at the end of the season).
As a side note, I hate preseason rankings because of this.
Who cares?
OSU obviously doesn’t since it’s their fault the opinion of the conference has been so crappy since 2006.
Why the hell should we care how bad our “only hope for a heisman contender” looks like crap? He’s been doing that the past two years! And still gets hype!
Different issue.
I hope Pryor looks terrible, it will be another huge black eye.
And Michigan deserves as much of the blame as OSU. They are too visible to the rest of the country, and with them being beyond dreadful the conference image suffers. That won’t always be true (if they stay down), but as recently as 2006 they were a heartbeat from the NC game, and for now they are also killing the image.
that's why
cryor being injured makes it ok for them to lose tomorrow….then he’s better when we play them and we beat them…
perfect
You really need to stop talking
You’re an embarrassment to the fanbase with you’re wishing for an injury
Dude
Enough with the injury wishlist crap.
Good grief.
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Sep 2, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions
everybody does it
everybody loses class sometimes
perceptoin
our perception won’t matter in the conference if they lose to marshall bc we will beat bama! (i am too optimistic)
playing @OSU two years in a row?
It’s hard to complain when you get upgraded from MSU to Nebraska as a rival, but why are we playing @OSU two years in a row? I was thinking the 2011 schedule had some real potential, not so sure with that game waiting for us now.
bama
do you think our chances go up now w/ ingram’s injury…or is richardson too good too?
Whatever amount it is
It’s probably offset by the distinct possibility we might start a true freshman QB.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
as opposed to the better options that don't really exist?
I trust the coaches on this one
Joe Paterno - Not Unlike Hugh Hefner
I'm not saying the coaches could be wrong
I’m just saying maybe the possibility that a true freshman beat out two guys with experience in the system is a reason to crap our pants.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
Why?
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If a kid can become the starter at QB at a major Div-1 football program before the first game of his first season, that leads me to believe either a) he’s really frickin good, or b) his competition was really quite average.
Being a natural pessimist, I think b) is far more likely than a) and it makes me quite concerned about the ability of our offense to be effective against Alabama. He’s brand new to everything. Our offense will very likely be quite limited and one-dimensional. That won’t bode well for our chances to score points.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
guaranteed
we see newsome some in the bama game as a clark role in the alamo bowl…..they will plan something to keep them off guard
joe even admitted in the spring he’s been looking at this game all winter…he won’t go COMPLETELY VANILLA…he will have something up the sleeves w/ this talent all around skill wise outside the qb
He said in the press release announcing Bolden that they will all
play Saturday and to think of them more as 1A, 1B, and 1C for now.
They could go up.
A knee surgery is NOT something that is 100% in just over two weeks. No matter what it is.
All it takes is a foot going the wrong way and WRENCH: Your ACL has just been torn. You have been PWNED for the rest of the season and ESPN will mourn for you until Brett Farve “news” comes out.
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, jeez.
I know I should enjoy the slight edge we might actually have, but I hope he ends up okay. I really hope he doesn’t suit up against a team with three linebackers who all have something to prove if he isn’t absolutely physically ready to handle it. I don’t want to break him literally, I just want to break his fans emotionally.
by dwf5095 on Sep 2, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec right there
I don’t want to break him literally, I just want to break his fans emotionally.
That’s got green written all over it.
2011
Bama
Iowa
Consecutives weeks:
Nebraska
OSU
Wisky
And if we make it out alive:
UM?
Yikes! Now that’s a schedule
by 16andCounting on Sep 1, 2010 8:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just you wait
Some national sportswriter somewhere will find a chink in the new Big Ten armor to harp on for years. They can’t bang on competitiveness or scheduling anymore, so I don’t know what they can go after. But they’ll find something
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
they will say
they will fault us for making the divisions “watered down” or made it too easy for a team and say something that we should have put the best teams in one to strengthen it
as dumb as that sounds….thats what twwl would do
Or they'll realize that
putting Michigan in a separate division where it’s getting KILLED by Northwestern was a really, really, REALLY stupid idea?
My hatred of Michigan knows no bounds. Even more so after this travesty.
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 2, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, Michigan in the CCG
They’ll be no better than 4-4 in conference in 2011. Sparty, Iowa, Nebraska and tOSU will all beat them.
Looks like a rematch with Iowa or Nebraska to me.
by Frank O'Brien on Sep 2, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Hammer and Rails...
Purdue’s SBN site is reporting that their protected rival is Iowa and not MSU.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Iowa's website is also reporting it as Purdue and Iowa.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
The broadcast on the BTN showed it as Purdue/Iowa being together.
And Indiana/MSU is a trophy game and they specifically said that only 3 trophy games were maintained yearly (PSU/Minn, PSU/MSU, and Iowa/Wisconsin for those who are curious).
So I sez to the......
Great Grandkid, “There used to be a LandGrant Trophy, but it changed in the great Division Shuffle of 2011 to the LouGrant Trophy.”
Can we request to burn the Land Grant Trophy in epic fashion?
I’m thinking viking funeral, but we need a body of water, and the closest one I know of is the Nat.
dawson
like the thought of a burning…..or chain it and drown it in the bottom of the ocean
We'd have to sink it.
Even the fire wouldn’t want the Land Grant Trophy. However, the ocean may spit it up once every few generations like Jumanji.
The oceans are being destroyed by temperature change and pollution already
Do we really want to add something that dangerously horrible to the waters?
Besides, if it doesn’t burn, we know it’s actually from Hell, and doesn’t just look like it was made there by the damned.
its all good we have those expert sniffers to make sure seafood isnt tainted
"It was fun. It really was, ... People say to me, 'Why don't you give it up?' I don't want to miss out on this stuff, because I'm having a good team. I've never had a bad season when I didn't have a good time." JVP
by psu in the w-b on Sep 1, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
False.
The oceans are being destroyed by scientists poisoning the waters.
Plankton….dying! The oceans….dying!
We’ve got to tell them!
It’s people!
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE.
(And that is how you use the one sentence paragraph)
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap.
You’re right.
"Trouble is; I want that fourth carrier!"
by ReadingRambler on Sep 1, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets just glue more and more stuff onto it
until it reaches critical mass and implodes on itself
by skarocksoi on Sep 1, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we do this
lets do it in Ohio or Michigan, just in case the implosion causes a black hole. No one will miss those states right?
by dawsonPSU10 on Sep 1, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
ohio
ohio before michigan….get rid of the mistake by the lake and cincinatti then too for us steeler fans
I say keep the trophy, but the loser has to take it as a sign of shame
"I did my walk of shame this morning and everyone was so much nicer," she said. "People were inviting me to parties at 9 a.m."