The Unofficial "Let's move on" Thread
by millzners on Sep 13, 2010 8:55 AM EDT
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PrintOk, it's Monday morning, we're 1-1, and we just got our teeth kicked in. We lost to the concensus best team in the country on the road with a true freshman quaterback. We didn't tackle well and Evan Royster had his second bad game.
But it's time to move on and look at the positives
For one, we're still ranked Ok, it doesn't mean much, but it's something.
Second, despite the rocky performance, our QB Bolden kept his composure* in a game where most true freshman QB's wouldn't. He threw two interceptions on third down in or near the red zone. Big deal. Heisman hopeful Miami quarterback and Jacory Harris threw 4 picks, and he's a Junior. This was his first big test and it came early in the season, he will be better for it come Iowa/OSU.
Third, the defense didn't play all that poorly. That's the best RB by far that we will face this season, maybe the best RB we have faced in the last 5 years. And we faced 4 current NFL running backs in 2008. Our CB's played extremely well, and our defensive line got some pressure on the QB. If you're getting gashed like that the safeties are going to start creeping in and the passing lanes will open up, that was Alabama's whole game plan.
Finally, this game is not going to determine the winner of the B10 or who goes to the Rose Bowl. I think this team has it in them to share a conference title with Ohio State. I think this team has it in them to put a season in the books very similar to 2008 Ohio State, given that I believe Bolden is a better QB then Pryor was at this stage.
So there. Shake it off and move on.
*I refuse to use the buzz word that starts with a p
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“I think this team has it in them to share a conference title with Ohio State.”
If we don’t beat Ohio State on the field I want nothing of this. You can’t “share” a conference title w/ a team that you meet on the field in the same year. Not with any integrity/honor. If OSU beats us and we somehow come out w/ the same conference record, you won’t see me referring to 2010 as a year we won the B10 or buy any “2010 Big Ten Champs” gear…
That said, I agree with the rest of your post.
Correct...
Only Buckeyes think that you can share a title with a team that beat you.
"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway
I'd call it a shared conference title with OSU...
… if it were a three-way tie where Iowa, PSU, and OSU all went 1-1 against each other.
by elefantstn on Sep 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But Robert Bolden is POISE
I agree though, its time to move on. I don’t think we can make an appropriate assessment of this team of of two games. That’s not enough data at all, and you have to consider that we’ve played a 1-AA team and then the #1 team in the nation. Not really indicative of the talent we will be facing every week.
Trying to think of the last college back for anyone I remember being that good.
Enis, Earl Campbell, Ricky Williams, Jim Brown all ran like him.
Richardson is extremely talented and I don’t think it was all because we sucked at tackling.
I just think in retrospect
We’re going to look at this game as “yeah, that was that game when Alabama had Richardson, of COURSE he ran all over us”
Just pray he’s in the NFL next year, I think he will be.
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
The Tuscaloosa Times is running a report:
Goodell has agreed to let Richardson join the NFL early because he is that good.
However, Goodell will also suspend Richardson for the first 6 games for assaulting our LBs. As no charges were officially filed, this will likely be reduced to 4 games for putting himself in a position that could harm others.
As an aside; the Titans have signed Richardson to be their backup while Nashville fans claim he is better than Chris Johnson.
Hell people....give the man his due but Jim Brown he is not
He can be tackled…..we just sucked at doing it. Tacklers need to be moving forward not sitting back on their heals. BTW…let us not forget that PSU tackled Jim Brown with lesser talent while he was at Cuse.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
Oh, we still sucked at tackling.
Richardson is a superb back, but the tackling was terrible by the standards we expect – heck, demand – from our players. Did you see McElroy juke Stupar for a first down? Good lord.
"Now you put a Pamper on him and send him back out here." - Ray Isom, 1987 Fiesta Bowl
by ReadingRambler on Sep 13, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Still Ranked
I never understood how you could lose to an opponent higher than yourself and drop in the polls. Does the fact that PSU lost to the #1 team in the nation mean they aren’t as good as we thought they were? By ranking Alabama #1 and PSU #18, aren’t you saying you think Alabama would win in a game between the two? So when Alabama wins, why do voters act surprised and drop PSU in the rankings?
I know the answer to my own question, but I felt like throwing it out there.
I know right....
Bottom line is the pollsters hate PSU. The game was actually closer than the score and PSU consistently drove the ball on Bama’s D with an 18 year old QB. None of that matters though….only a select few teams keep their ranking or move up after a similar loss.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
none of that matters
because if you read the national writeups, penn state never made it a game. they convienently ignore the fact that psu was in position to make it 7-7 or 7-3 at worst. same again at 14-7. it was a blow out of course. even being outgained by a little over 100 yards isnt that bad when you consider its not unusual to see teams outgain other teams by 300 or more. maybe im just a kool-aid drinker/homer but i honestly believe there were lots of positives to take from the game…although the “lower my shoulder and hit the guy as hard as i can, screw trying to wrap him” tackling approach is concerning.
yea i dont get it
Were we going to win the game, probably not, but I don’t think its much of a blowout like people are saying. The turning point, to me, was the fumble where we lost about 100 yards of field position. we went from a first and goal to essentially starting all over again. we punch that in and i think theres a ball game there. But im not going to split too many hairs, because i still dont think we were going to win, just dont like the perception we got blown out.
Robert Bolden - "LePoise in Cleats"
The problem is we didn't punch that in
And now you start discrediting the ability of Alabama, and start blaming us. At some point, we have to remember that we didn’t score for a reason, and it’s because Bama forced us not to score.
Did we have success against Bama? Certainly, enough to take away some moral victories and be excited for the future.
But Bama made sure that we were never in position to be in contention to win that game on the scoreboard. And according to the rules of the game, it’s that final score that matters.
Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.
Alabama could have beat us by 50.
That they didn’t is pretty nice of them, but it’s true.
I too am not a huge fan of Richard Nixon. Also, I need 5 or 6 for the Temple game.
Beat Kent State.
You watched a different game then
Bama wouldn’t have had the ball enough to beat us by that much because the O did move the ball….just didn’t score. No where near 50. We should have had more points on the Board too so I don’t know where you are pulling that out of?
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
The only thing that Penn State scoring would have accomplished
Is Alabama scoring more points. They didn’t pull the starters in the second half, but they pulled them way back. Don’t kid yourself, we didn’t get miraculously better in the second half.
I too am not a huge fan of Richard Nixon. Also, I need 5 or 6 for the Temple game.
Beat Kent State.
eh no sense in arguing about it
we lost which is the important thing to take away. I happen to not think we were “blown out” like Tennessee or Florida State, but it really doesnt matter either way. a loss is a loss is a loss.
Robert Bolden - "LePoise in Cleats"
Ok....
So add 17 to the 1st half and its still 34. D did start playing a little better (not much but a little) in the second half. PSU was bad but not 50 pts bad.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
Fine maybe not 50
But is 41 to 10 better?
I too am not a huge fan of Richard Nixon. Also, I need 5 or 6 for the Temple game.
Beat Kent State.
Hooray for semantics.
"Now you put a Pamper on him and send him back out here." - Ray Isom, 1987 Fiesta Bowl
by ReadingRambler on Sep 13, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont disagree with most of that
and thats why i didnt mention the first pick in the redzone, that was all Alabama and their blitz. I dont think Im taking anything away from Alabama or their ability by saying that i dont think they blew us out. They won yes, it was a lopsided score, and i conceded I never thought we were going to win that game. But the outcome of this game doesnt seem like Oregon/Tennesse or FSU/Oklahoma, those are blowouts to me.
Robert Bolden - "LePoise in Cleats"
I'll agree with you on all of this
There are two ways to view a blowout – a complete game domination (like the two you mentioned), and a final score “blowout”. It just so happens that most voters will look at that final score, see a near-shutout and vote accordingly.
Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.
I don't think anyone on here is discrediting Bama
they were the better team by far. I went in thinking our D was better than theirs but was sorely mistaken. Bama does have problems though and Saban knows it. If 18 yr old “Rob” Bolden can move his team against the Bama secondary…..what is Ryan Mallet going to do. To me that looks to be their lone weakness right now.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
I can't actually agree with this right now
Bottom line is the pollsters hate PSU.
There may be other times when I’ll agree and grumble at the voters. But we were ranked low enough, and got blown out by enough, to be bumped out of the top 25 this week. I was actually very surprised to still be ranked.
Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.
3 scores to the #1 team in the country
with an 18 year old QB……not a great loss but they didn’t blow us out of the stadium either. Even Saban admitted in his presser that we gave up the ball 3 times in the redzone. Should have stayed put in my opinion. Definitely shouldn’t be behind WVU that had to come from behind in OT to beat Marshall!
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
I don't like being behind Michigan right now either
But as a review of the season so far, they have the better resume at 2-0. Either way, it’s far too early to be nitpicking about the rankings and who we are behind/ahead. There are still 10 games left to allow things to shake out.
Designated "New Thread Is Up" guy.
Eh....
You are right …..I agree…..we are better than Michigan but whatever. Looking at their schedule they should be 6-1when we play them so rank them….looks better for us. If (big if….but possible) we be beat Iowa on 10/2 we jump Michigan anyway.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
And then you go look and see what people rank us.....
I was really surprised that Herbstreet has us at 25 since he did the game; expected a higher ranking from him. Chris Fowler having UGA ahead of us is just plain lunacy……another big surprise was Craig James having us at 17. As much shite as we give him on this site…..thought everyone should know.
http://www.pollspeak.com/pollstalker/pollstalker.php?s=13&p=26&v=&t1=79&w=3&r=T
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
I know Kent State is next but
Is anyone concerned w/ Michigan? We always $h!t the bed against them and (their) Robinson is running all over the place. None of our LBs or Safeties can keep up to spy on him, IMO.
I still think we win it, but I’m getting more concerned w/ scUM each week.
im not worried
robinson will be broken in half by then. the two games before us are msu and iowa. he might survive msu, but if he carries the ball 20+ times against iowa, theyll be picking his bones up off the field
Same for Tate last year
He looked fantastic early in the season, and by the time we saw him he had been ground to a paste. The B10 defenses will take their toll, but that doesn’t mean I’m looking past Michigan. On my more pescimistic days I see a potential loss there.
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
Not really, no.
I’m hopeful the defense will be improved by gametime. Moreover, Michigan’s defense still looks very porous. Even when ND’s backup was in, GERG still sat back and only rushed three guys.
And Carr isn’t their coach anymore. I don’t know why people worry about the past.
"Now you put a Pamper on him and send him back out here." - Ray Isom, 1987 Fiesta Bowl
by ReadingRambler on Sep 13, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Richardson is a beast
but not an excuse for our tackling. I decided I wanted more punishment last night and re-watched the game (instead of the Dallas/Wash debacle). Both Morris and Lynn put hits on Richardson better than our LB’s (fact!). Its football….doesn’t matter who is running the ball or how big your are….gotta square the shoulder, back stiff…head up DRIVE through your target and wrap the F up! Can sit back and wait to get run over by a human freight train….that poor stupidity.
I thought only safeties played 15 yards off the ball?
They were tentative
perhaps afraid to overcommit and make a mistake. Probably due to their inexperience. Hopefully that improves over the next few games.
Too Soon
To move on. It’s only Monday, and some of us have only just gotten home. Plenty more to think and write about on this game yet.
But I’ll get behind ‘composure.’
Our defense can still grow to become excellent.
when the season is in the books
i think well be able to look at ’bamas schedule and see what they did to other teams and PSU will be able to say they slowed them down. with all the weapons they had, keeping them to 24 points and a smidge over 400 yards isnt that bad. i think well see many more points and many more yards against the OMGSEC teams. while they did lose, a couple dropped balls and some costly turnovers kept them from scoring 17-20 points on the concensus #1 team in the country. alabama was the better team on saturday but penn state was not embarrassed by any means, unlike the seminals did in OK
Eh, I don't know about a share of the conference title.
IMO the O-line is not remotely good enough to contend and I can’t see any way to win the Iowa and tOSU games. The goal now has to be to make sure we don’t lose to teams like Michigan and jNW. Last year the Capital One bowl felt like a let down, this year that same bowl will be a good season.
Rewatching the game now...
and its heartbreaking a melancholy experience. What could have been. It also is giving me a great deal of hope for later this season. I really think we will be able to pull out either the Iowa game or the OSU game now.
There I’m over it and at peace. Im turning off the game now just after Wagner’s FG.
Go State! Beat Kent!…and all the others too.
"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD
by bconway6 on Sep 13, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Feeling better too after rewatching
D still can’t tackle the 2nd time around, but I think our offense can perform much better and perhaps be explosive. The coaches need to continue opening up the playbook – - there is so much talent on the outside!
I'm of the opinion
that this is one of those years where we’ll be a vastly improved team by the time November rolls around. Kind of like some of those years in the early to mid 90’s (’90, ’93, ’96 spring to mind).
And so we land, only to find
We never left the ground...
Couldn't agree more.
Although there is a lot of development that needs to occur.
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