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Get used to this stuff hometown fans.  In what is the next logical iteration of global economics on a microeconomic scale in NCAA football, marquee teams will play each other for the right price.  However, these games won't be at home.  They'll be promoted like Ali-Frazier and both schools will get big exposure and make a killing.

I don't have a problem with it necessarily, but it's another example of money being more important than giving your captive hometown fans what they want/deserve.

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Not to semi-thread jack, but what is the future of these kinds of games if/when we move to the 9 game conference schedule?

I agree with all of the recent articles that state the PSU/Bama and OSU/Miami games are going to disappear. If budget reports are true (admittedly, I’ve never looked at the athletic income stream), we need our 7.5 home games per year. If we move the 9 conference games, that is what we would get if we played all three OOC games at home every year. So where is the room for UM/ND or Iowa/ISU?

I guess the answer, economically, is the mega-game at Texas Stadium, provided the per-team payout is equal to, more or less, what PSU would make for a home game, whatever that number is. There were five commas in the previous sentence. Lawyer’d!

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by Jeff Junstrom on Sep 24, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

SIX commas. Math’d!

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by Jeff Junstrom on Sep 24, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the more accurate statement in regards to "needing" the 7.5 home games would be...

…“we need the 7.5 home games…to keep revenue as high as we like it to be”

I would be willing to bet PSU could play 6 home games for the next 20 years and still be in the black

by hbeach08 on Sep 24, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm outspoken on this...

But I think we need to wring every nickel out of the program that we realistically can.

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by jesse. on Sep 24, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still like my idea

of raising the price a few bucks for 7 games rather than artificially constricting yourself by trying to get 7.5 games. You’d be able to get more attractive OOC games on a regular basis.

by Joe 96alum on Sep 24, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there’s more inventory to sell ESPN and the BTN with a 9th game, that helps make up for some of it. But if that comes at the cost of ESPN not getting a PSU/Bama series, it’s probably offset.

I wonder if we don’t get more of the Oregon State deals, where a third party subsidizes the one-n-done payout. That’s effectively what’s happening with this JeRRy thing. And it’s all over the place now: FedEx, NY/NJ, Wrigley, ect.

The good news for people like me is that it’s getting harder and harder to justify paying the cost of traveling, getting an outrageous 7 night minimum hotel room, and then buying an increasingly more expensive ticket…all while the cost of 55" HDTVs continues to go down. It’s going to get to the point where it’s going to matter very little for most of us where they things are actually played.

by KevinHD on Sep 24, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there’s more inventory to sell ESPN and the BTN with a 9th game, that helps make up for some of it. But if that comes at the cost of ESPN not getting a PSU/Bama series, it’s probably offset.

That’s completely wrong. There’s more inventory with fewer conference games. With 12 teams, if you go from 8 conference games per team to 9, that’s 6 extra conference games per season. But if those 12 teams each had a 4th non-conference games, the majority would work in an extra home game with that flexibility, so you’d probably have 8-10 Big Ten home games there. And the Big Ten’s inventory is the total number of home games by Big Ten teams.

Now, if you want to argue that there are more good games with 9 conference games as opposed to OOC matchups versus patsies, I could see it. But it’s certainly fewer overall Big Ten games for TV.

by Laaaaazzz on Sep 24, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re getting more ESPN-level games with a 9th game, thus more ESPN inventory; that’s my point. I think you’re probably nitt picking my terminology. Selling Big Ten rights is more valuable with a 9th game vs. the current 8-game setup. That’s my point.

by KevinHD on Sep 24, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And now that I’m less drunk: you’re obviously correct there will be less Big Ten games overall, but the rights are only for the home team, so the Minnesota@MTSUs don’t count. Then you figure many of the games that get cut are Northwesternish vs. MAC, which don’t play into the value of the ESPN deal. So you’re getting the Penn State-Michigan games you miss from time to time in exchange for crappy Indiana games and (the wildcard) whatever the major programs decide to cut now that they only get 3 OOCs. I used to think that they would quickly cut the best matchups, but the more I think about it the more I wonder if they can get away with that and still continue to increase ticket/donation costs.

by KevinHD on Sep 25, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

The TWO teams I HATE the MOST, playing against each other.

I just don’t know what to do or say about this. I don’t think I’ll even be able to watch this game. There’s not a possibility that BOTH can lose, is there?

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Sep 24, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Lots of injuries.

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by Rogue Nine on Sep 24, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad the tie was abolished...

Maybe Koa Misi and Jared Odrick would be Patriots if Bill Parcells wasn't Comedic.Sans's father...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 25, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chick-Fil-A Kickoff Classic.......

payout has been 2 million per team, but I don’t know if there are other sources of income from the event not listed in the “payout”.

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by ech2os on Sep 24, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

evil, effing tool

HATE

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by letsgopsu on Sep 24, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Penn State road game 200 miles from campus instead of 500 miles...

…is a win for the team and the fans. Thank you Daniel Snyder for doing something right!

Blogging about D.C. Baseball since April '04. Penn State alum, so I blog about it too. Also partial to the Washington Capitals and the rest of the D.C. teams, plus the New York Yankees and Yale football.

by WFY on Sep 27, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

but as a Redskins fan I am morally obligated to hate Snyder

and I hypocritically have purchased tickets for this game, since I was able to get 10 together

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by letsgopsu on Sep 27, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm, an apathetic Redskins fan

I’m not a Snyder fan either, I’m just rooting for them because they are the home team.

I got 16 together.

Blogging about D.C. Baseball since April '04. Penn State alum, so I blog about it too. Also partial to the Washington Capitals and the rest of the D.C. teams, plus the New York Yankees and Yale football.

by WFY on Sep 27, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Snyder

bringing friends and family together

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by letsgopsu on Sep 28, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but Indiana is selling a home game so they get all the money. The Chick fil a game payout goes to both teams, which would be $4 million total.

by Laaaaazzz on Sep 24, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe if it wasn't just an "SEC potential power pounds random middling ACC team" I'd pay more attention to it.

Clemson got OWNED last time they played, and they had a pair of All-American running backs…

Maybe Koa Misi and Jared Odrick would be Patriots if Bill Parcells wasn't Comedic.Sans's father...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 25, 2010 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

more to come

go to nationalchamps.net and check out some future schedules for every school. Some very interesting ones. A bunch of neutal site games to be played. Notably ND, Uconn, syracuse and a few others for arlington, tx.
uconn10-24 Notre Dame @East Rutherford, NJ 2015
syracuse v Penn State @East Rutherford, NJ 2013
miami 10-6 Notre Dame @Chicago, IL 2012
nd v Arizona State @Arlington, TX 2013

by SMAN on Sep 24, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not a fan of these games.

College games should be played on campus. Other than a bowl game I can’t imagine when I’d ever travel out-of-state for a neutral site game. This will sound goofy but I’d go see Penn State at Indiana before I’ll ever go see them play Indiana at Fedex Field.

by Joe 96alum on Sep 24, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

It’s what makes college football better than pro football, the campus atmosphere, the tailgating, etc.

And Indiana is not a bad stadium at all, whereas FedEx Field is an ugly stadium in a bad part of town that’s hard to drive into and out of.

by CDRS on Sep 26, 2010 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

A bad part of town?

It isn’t in town, it was a farm that paved over with 25,000 parking spaces and a 90,000 stadium. It is within a mile of a Metro station, less than the distance between West Halls and Beaver Stadium. Sure, PG County isn’t great, but the 1 mile radius around the stadium makes it a moot point.

FedEx Field is in so many ways, Giants Stadium South. It isn’t a pretty stadium, just boring. This isn’t baseball where what is visible from the stadium is a critical part of the experience.

Blogging about D.C. Baseball since April '04. Penn State alum, so I blog about it too. Also partial to the Washington Capitals and the rest of the D.C. teams, plus the New York Yankees and Yale football.

by WFY on Sep 27, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they have had their tax attorneys look at this very carefully...

I dont see how they can maintain their tax exempt status when they start playing now at privately owned for-profit venues (Jerry Jones and Danny Snyder)…. its not like they are playng at a municipal stadium or a stadium owned by a Government Stadium Authority where the schools keep the proceeds that are left over after expenses of the non-profit stadium authority are met…in those situtations all parties are non-profit…going to Texas to play at Jones’ Taj Mahal for a fee puts you in the same category as a monster truck show…

The players should demand compensation btw. Id rather them get it than Snyder or Jones.

by '85Fan on Sep 25, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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