Big Ten Preview: the Conference Games Begin
Before Major League Baseball expanded to 12 teams in both the American and National Leagues in 1969, there was no playoff system in professional baseball in America. The teams with the best regular season records in each league won the pennant and met in the World Series. When MLB expanded, however, they began playing the League Championship Series, and the preeminence of the regular season in baseball died.
Say what you will about Big Ten expansion (I like it), but let's be clear that Saturday begins the last season of a dying format for picking a winner in American sports. Once we invite Nebraska into the fold next year and start playing a championship game, the importance of the Big Ten regular season will be diminished. The advent of the BCS has already taken some of the luster away from the Rose Bowl, but as things stand now, there are no "post-season" games to determine who gets to play in Pasadena on the first of January. But this year will be the last year we can say that. We're going to gain a lot with Nebraska and a conference championship game. But let's not forget that we're going to lose something too, and let's enjoy that something while we have it.
The first week of Big Ten games will never be this important again.
Ohio State Buckeyes at Illinois Fighting Illini (12:00, Big Ten Network)
65 and partly cloudy; OSU-17.5; Over/Under 50.5
Illinois hasn't looked great thus far in 2010, but they haven't looked awful either. After a relatively close lose to Missouri on opening week, they dispatched both Southern and Northern Illinois and took a week off to prepare for Saturday. Junior running back Mikel Leshoure leads the Illini with 398 yards rushing through three games with a gaudy 6.9 yards per carry. Traveling to Champaign-Urbana to play the well-rested Illini will be a bigger challenge than the Buckeyes have faced in recent weeks against Ohio and Eastern Michigan, but the defense and Terrelle Pryor should be ready. The Buckeye defense hasn't pitched a shutout yet, but I think they get one on Saturday as they can concentrate on the run and not worry much about Illinois' anemic passing game.
Prediction: Ohio State 37-Illinois 0
Northwestern Wildcats at Minnesota Golden Gophers (12:00, ESPN)
56 and sunny; Northwestern -5.5; O/U 54.5
Saturday's game in the Twin Cities is a big one for both teams. It won't make either teams season, but it could break them. If Minnesota loses, they will drop to 1-4, will have lost three straight after barely beating Middle Tennessee State in the season opener, and will almost certainly have quit on coach Tim Brewster. If Northwestern loses, their win at Vanderbilt in week one suddenly looks like no big deal, as do QB Dan Persa's impressive numbers against weak competition. I think home field advantage helps the Gophers keep this one close for a while, but Pat Fitzgerald has a pretty strong team that keeps improving.
Prediction: Northwestern 33-Minnesota 24.
Michigan Wolverines at Indiana Hoosiers (3:30, ESPNU)
67 and partly cloudy; Michigan -10; O/U 66
A couple of undefeated teams square off in Bloomington on Saturday in what could be one of the most entertaining Big Ten games of the season. Don't expect a lot of defense in this one. Both teams have averaged 41.3 points per game thus far, and Michigan boasts the 2nd best rushing attack in the nation (331rushing yards per game), while Indiana's QB Ben Chappell is tied for the 10th most passing yards per game (297) among d1 quarterbacks. Michigan's lone conference win last year came against the perennially weak Hoosiers on a late TD pass by Tate Forcier to win 36-33. I want to pick Indiana here, but the fact that they're allowing more than 175 yards rushing per game (92nd in the nation) despite playing a woefully weak out of conference schedule means I shouldn't.
Prediction: Michigan 41-Indiana 33
Wisconsin Badgers at Michigan State Spartans (3:30, ABC/ESPN)
53 and partly cloudy (some chance of rain); Wisconsin -2; O/U 53.5
While people are increasingly viewing the Big Ten as a quarterbacks league this year with a slate of impressive men under center, this game will depend more on the running backs than Wisconsin's Scott Tolzien or the Spartans' indefatigable Kirk Cousins. The matchup between Badger RB John Clay and MSU backer Greg Jones is getting all the press, but I think this one really comes down to how well Sparty can move the ball on the ground against the Badger defense. Wisconsin's only been giving up 14 points per game, and most of those have come via the air or special teams. But Spartans' freshman RB Le'Veon Bell has 7 touchdowns and nearly 400 yards so far this year, earned at a ridiculous 8.3 yards per carry, and is in the running-maybe even the lead-for Big Ten freshman of the year honors. Not to mention that sophomore Edwin Baker might actually be the best running back on the team. When these teams last played in East Lansing in 2008, Michigan State overcame an 11 point fourth quarter deficit to win 25-24. Seems like a reasonable score for Saturday's game.
Prediction: Michigan State 25-Wisconsin 24.
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Michigan-Indiana O/U 66
Yikes. That’s got to be near a Big Ten record.
@jschnauzer
Bloggin' at joepasdoghouse.com
Also note that spak thinks (and I agree) that...
…that number will be bettered by more than a touchdown.
"I’ll drink through the weirdness." - Illegal Formation
by leeharvey418 on Sep 30, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully it will be this all over again. 54-51!
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What is that?
1993 IU basketball versus 2010 PSU basketball?
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, that hurts!
"I’ll drink through the weirdness." - Illegal Formation
by leeharvey418 on Sep 30, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
How about 2009-2010 Penn State volleyball vs 2009-2010 Penn State basketball?
It would be an utter slaughter, the girls easily carrying the day… And then Skins4ever cried…
Maybe Koa Misi and Jared Odrick would be Patriots if Bill Parcells wasn't Comedic.Sans's father...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 30, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I predict
Michian 14 Indiana 10
You know why? Because it’s going to be that kind of crazy weekend in the B10. And I bet Penn State Iowa is a 40-45 shoot out with Stanzi and Bolden combining for over 900 yards of offense. Royster will break the record at Iowa, and people will leave feeling like they just saw a Texas Tech Oklahoma St. game. The punits will still say it was a sloppy game with no defense.
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
I still think we should have picked up Nebraska but kicked out Northwestern and Minnesota.
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
I would throw Purdue in there also
they’re supposed to be our middle of the road team, on par with South Carolina, Oregon State, Arizona, and Boston College on a year in and year out basis. Instead, they lose to MAC teams and can’t put up points on ND, who may possess the slowest secondary in D1. The Mississippi State, Washington State, Iowa State type slots are already taken up my Minnesota and Indiana, so Purdue must be better.
just a killer slate of late games
i probably won’t bet these b/c i won’t be watching them, but if i had to, i like all the favorites in the other marquee late games (not commenting on the big game until tomorrow):
Oregon -7 v. Stanford
Bama-8 v. Florida
ND -2.5 at Boston College
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
You would take ND?
They’re still a little bit of a mystery, but I think their defense is pretty poor. When I watch them, I seriously wonder where all Charlie’s 5* athletes went? I don’t have time to go through their roster, but did they all quit or did he just put all the skill players at WR? Also, Florida seems to find themselves in a position similar to Penn State. If you pick them, you’re picking them on potential, not what they have already demonstrated. Perhaps this will be the week PSU can punch it in the end zone, and perhaps this will be the week that Florida perfects the QB / center exchange.
I'm picking against Boston College
who lost to Va Tech 19-0 and has looked pretty awful so far.
ND is the same team it has been under Weis: tons of talent at the skill positions and nothing in the trenches. I still think Brian Kelly was a good hire for them and its only a matter of time until they turn it around. It’s not like I’m predicting them to beat a ranked team by double digits. They need to beat someone that’s likely in the bottom half of the ACC by a field goal.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Who cares less about concussions: Kelly or Weis?
I think it might be Kelly, and for that he loses many, many cool points.
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm picking Stanford to win outright
I've got an oopspowSurprise for your stoopsmyAss
by Frank O'Brien on Sep 30, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Stanford
but I don’t think they have the speed around the edges. bad matchup for them.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
They did last year, didn't they?
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
51-42...
But Autzen is a very significant homefield advantage. It’s their Beaver Stadium, with half the capacity and crowd (and slow-to-appear student section) but all the noise.
Oregon is terrifying at home and vulnerable on the road. Their last home loss was in 08 to Boise (which was punctuated by a HORRIBLE late hit on the Oregon QB by Boise that would have earned an NFL player a 4 game suspension).
Maybe Koa Misi and Jared Odrick would be Patriots if Bill Parcells wasn't Comedic.Sans's father...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 30, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take the team that will smack you in the mouth vs. one that will try to run around you
I've got an oopspowSurprise for your stoopsmyAss
by Frank O'Brien on Sep 30, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Stanford in this one.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Oregon is overrated.
Just ask JPDH’s computer rankings. Stanford is going to take them out. Again.
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
every MSU game I've seen I've been impressed
every Wisconsin game I’ve seen I’ve been underwhelmed. I really don’t have a strong feel for either team, to be honest with you. I’m hopeful I get a more insight this week.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Wisconsin is way, way overranked and Michigan State has the firepower to score boatloads on them.
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wisconsin
Is in for an epic meltdown just like 2008.
McGloin Despite Them
Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010
Isn't Wisconsin always in for an epic meltdown?
Sorry pet Badger OBrienetcetc, just had to say that, but I love you anyway!
For the glory
by Paige2PSU on Sep 30, 2010 11:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Too bad.
I have no respect for anyone’s predictions. We’re supposed to lose by double digits and we haven’t even gotten to the stadium yet.
If I can root for Penn State against Iowa, can’t you cheer for Wisconsin against Penn State? I mean, they ARE your most hated rival (sarcasm).
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 30, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I screwed THAT up...
I’d have to trade Devin Harris for an “edit post” button…
I did mean Michigan State.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
bret bielema
ever since his little offsides stunt, ive had no respect for him. so i cant help but hope to see them crash and burn. he just angries up the blood
Really?
One little act and that’s it? I shudder to learn what you think of the infamous “2 seconds” act Lloyd pulled in 05…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it was his smug smile
apparently joepa thought so too, hence why he didnt call off the dogs the last two meetings. as for carr, oh most psu people didnt like him to begin with. besides, it was the refs that ultimately put the time on the clock, that whole thing was a fiasco
Exactly
Which is one of the many reasons I loved the calls. The rule sucked, he knew it, he exploited it.
And in the meantime pissed off JoePa for eternity.
p.s. the rule got changed.
Our defense can still grow to become excellent.
48-7 expunged any trace of a smile from Bret Bielema's face...
He’s no longer Solid Snake, he’s more like always-worried Otacon or Raiden the girl…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 1, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That just rings completely hollow
considering the fact that Penn State’s wins are almost always lopsided, and Wisconsin’s almost always close.
1995 first ever meeting, Wisconsin wins 17-9 in Beaver Stadium (WTF?)
1996 Penn State wins in Madison 23-20
1997 Penn State wins in State College 35-10 (first blowout)
1998 Wisconsin wins 24-3 in Madison (and goes to the Rose Bowl)
No game in 1999 or 2000 (THANK THE LORD!)
2001 Wisconsin wins 18-6 in State College (and that wasn’t even a halfway DECENT Wisconsin team, as it finished with a sub-.500 record)
2002 Penn State wins 34-31 in Camp Randall (WTF again? Michigan stole the next game from the Nittany Lions)
2003 Wisconsin wins 30-23 in State College (something about that score tells me the ‘03 Badger defense was a FAIL)
2004 Wisconsin takes consecutive games for the first time ever, winning 16-3 in Camp Randall (the Mills and Robinson injuries happened in that game, and the Robinson one was SICKENING…)
2005 Arguably the best overall team matchup; MRob leads Penn State to a handy home victory 35-14 (what gets to me is that horrible loss Wisconsin took to Iowa to close out the season. It was BLEEPING inexcusable; that wasn’t even a good Iowa team by BHGP reckoning)
2006 Wisconsin won 13-3 (another WTF worthy win) The infamous kicking game; if Michigan or Ohio State had done it instead of Wisconsin I imagine there’d be bloody daggers all over the place. (And I was furious when Michigan won in State College, because i just knew there was no way on earth Wisconsin was going to make the BCS given the Wolverine-Pasadena love affair)
2007 Penn State wins 39-7. P.J. Hill goes from good injury prone to terrible, fumbles on his first carry, and Wisconsin dies. Penn State kicks the Badgers around, resulting in once-promising WR Marcus Randle El punching a Nittany Lion player in the face (I felt the Lion BLEEPING deserved it at the time) and getting benched for the rest of his career.
2008 Penn State shells the worst Wisconsin team in 6 years, handing the Badgers their worst ever home loss (score-wise, that cheap $H!T Ohio State pulled the previous week was far worse emotionally) Congratulations.
My apologies for post-length, but this is a really, really competitive series between our two schools. Oddly enough, the road team almost always has a chance.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 2, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Fine, fine.
You lose to Ohio State after shutting down their entire offense, and to home at Iowa by double digits after holding a 10-0 lead, and an embarrassing game to Northwestern in which your returner makes the biggest play of his life, then beat Miami and see how the media treats you. I didn’t say ANYTHING remotely close to “Penn State is overrated”, because I JOINED BSD and saw that whoever JoePa put in would have to be a decent QB. Bolden has done a great job, and if he gets sacked at this pace (once every four games) he’ll win Freshman of the Year in a landslide.
If Bo Ryan’s boys were taking on Izzo’s in the Breslin Center, I’d expect to lose that game and take the one in Madison. Men’s basketball has oddly reflected football; the home team has won just about every game (and Izzo hasn’t won in the Kohl Center since Bo Ryan took over).
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 30, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Look, it's an opinion.
You don’t have to act like this.
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 1, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, I don't.
That doesn’t change what I said. You seriously should try going through the situation listed in my previous comment and see how the media treats you, when it has historically shafted your school and left you wondering WTF you dropped out of the polls following a 2 point road loss to a team that you’ve never shown an ability to beat on the road (NU).
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 1, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
we all know about media shafting
i dont think anybody on this blog will ever forget ’94. i might have only been 10 years old but ill never let that go
Sparty
Rambler, I’m sure you’ve got a number of reasons, many valid, for thinking that. In fact, if I were to judge by watching the games, I’d be inclined to agree with you.
But this is Sparty we’re talking about. In October. Until they can shake their own Spartiness, I’m just waiting for them to lose, repeatedly, in embarrassing and enixplicable fashion.
I really think Dantonio has turned that around.
Going by the last two years, it seems like Michigan State is now like most teams: they lose when the other team is better and when they’re outcoached. They never really folded.
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Sep 30, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, my, Rambler
You’re usually a pretty rational guy. And I still think maybe you’re right about Sparty this year … but last year?
Pure Sparty heartbreak:
Central Michigan 29, Michigan State 27. Sparty!
Notre Dame 33, Michigan State 30. Sparty!
Minnesota 42, Michigan State 34. Sparty!
Maybe that fake FG against the Irish shed some of the Sparty stink for them, but it’s gonna take a bit more to convince me.
by tuscaloosalion on Oct 1, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Who the heck are you?
What kind of guy makes that his first comment on this site?
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 1, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Clayborn > Heyward
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 1, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
OSU fan reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbeR6uYxU50
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 1, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, sure.
But he also beat Michigan two years in a row for the first time since 1960 something and coached an outstanding game against Iowa (Can’t say the same for his DC though). He hasn’t slapped himself and he hasn’t really done anything to make himself look like a moron. Yet. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 1, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet
In a lot of ways I agree. They do seem more put together than previous Sparty incarnations, and I’ll certainly not dispute he’s an upgrade over John L Slappy Smith.
Still … Sparty in October. Something bad could happen.
Also — who hasn’t beaten Michigan two years in a row?
Regardless, that game and PSU-Iowa are going to give people a lot clearer picture of what to expect the rest of the way in the Big 10.
by tuscaloosalion on Oct 1, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Who hasn't beaten Michigan two years in a row?
I've got an oopspowSurprise for your stoopsmyAss
by Frank O'Brien on Oct 1, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Bowling Green I guess.
I blame the students for stink bugs, Iowa, and Ishtar.
Beat Iowa.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 1, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Indiana
Wisconsin pulled it off in the Alvarez days (93-94 seasons) and the epic fail formerly known as 2008 killed it. Wisconsin has a real chance to take 2 games in a row this season with a late november trip to Michigan Stadium.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 1, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I will take Fitz over Coach WIN FIGHT TRY
Every single time

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