Can Jay Paterno coach quarterbacks? Maybe Jay Paterno can coach quarterbacks.
by Governator on Sep 4, 2010 8:37 PM EDT
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PrintThe purpose of this post is just that. I recall most thought JayPa was truly the most atrocious QB coach in the land during the QB14 years. What now? Let's look at his recent body of work, with the exception of the 06/07 debacle.
MRob, 05: 127 QB rating, 52% completions, 17/10 TD/INT, 196 yards per game
Clark, 08: 143 rating, 59% completions, 19/6 ratio, 199 yards p/game
Devlin, 08: 163 rating, 53% completions, 4/0 ratio, 46 yards p/game
Clark, 09: 142 rating, 61% completions, 24/10 ratio, 231 p/game
Combine this with a strong debut by a true freshman who's been in the program since May, and maybe we can admit that he can coach the position a little bit.
I'm mostly interested in hearing your opinion...
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I think the stats do show he is very capable as a qb coach.
There will be no battle fatigue in my command
Bolden is good
Jaypa may be a good coach, but Bolden came to psu knowing how to throw those passes.
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils
Bolden is pure money
I’m an avid Jay hater, but I’ll say this.
He’s leaps and bounds better than what he was when he first came to the program. He got that job several years too early through the nepotism lotto but seems to be improving.
The real litmus test will be how things go when Galen Hall leaves. I’m so curious to how the play calling goes up there. Who calls what plays?
I believe (correct me if im wrong)
That Galen calls the run plays, Jay calls the pass plays. As to who decides to run or pass, I dunno.
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Joe calls up for a pass or run, I believe.
Then Galen calls the specific run, or Jay the specific pass.
I doubt Joe has anything to do with most of the play calling anymore
I’d like to think he provides input on “big” play calls (plays after timeouts, 4th downs, etc…) but from play to play I think he leaves it up to Galen/Jay
Hall decides run or pass, and calls the run play.
Jay selects the pass play after Galen chooses pass.
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How would Joe make that call?
I think Joe has been asked and answered this one almost as often as the retirement question. He consistently answers that he gives input at various times throughout the game and “the coaches upstairs” make the call. It’s obvious that the Galen/Jay relationship works much better than Fran and Jay ever did and it appears, based on the occasional camera shots of the booth, that there is a lot of give and take between them. I don’t believe Galen says let’s run and then sits back and let’s Jay make the call.
It will be real interesting to see what happens when Jay’s making these calls on his own. It could be good, mediocre or real ugly.
by Frank O'Brien on Sep 5, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the question
Do they go rock paper scissor up there to decide if it’s run/pass?
How do you get into a rhythm when you have two play callers up there? Is the QB coach usually up in the press box?
BIG RED!
Big Red is being groomed for a higher profile coaching position.
Questions
Looking at big games in the past, has quarterback play been a strong point?
Have quarterbacks left this system and been welcomed into the next level in the QB role? Do evaluations of QBs indicate they are well prepared for the next level?
Are quarterbacks developed or is it more a function of thier athleticism?
Let’s compare QBs to LBs or players from the defensive line, which group of players are more highly touted?
Is it important for Jay’s quarterbacks to be “welcomed into the next level in the QB role”?
Jay’s job is to develop the quarterback to win games at Penn State. If the QB makes it in the NFL, good for him—that’s a nice windfall but not part of Jay’s job description.
QB play during big games is an interesting point, although I think your issue lies specifically with Clark’s ability to handle pressure. Don’t remember Robinson having a problem with performing in big games.
Couldn't agree more about the NFL.
I could care less about their performance or failure in the NFL. Winning in this program is my only concern.
In fact, if you told me our young men could choose to use the leadership and dedication they learned in this program to contribute in the NFL, or to contribute in society (be it philanthropy, captains of industry, politics, doctors, lawyers, etc), give me society all day long.
If you are looking for a reason to hate JayPa, you will find one.
by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 5, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree to an extent
His job is to prepare our QB’s as much as possible for the NFL as well. It’s a secondary goal to say the least, but still one of his jobs. Winning for us and prep for the big league should be the same though; ie improving mechanics, reading defenses, etc. Sending QB’s to the NFL makes recruiting easier and allows us to bring in better talent every year.
But yeah, if a PSU QB goes on to be the next Peyton Manning or whatever, that shouldn’t determine whether Jay is a good coach or not. His goal first and foremost is winning games for PSU.
Why are we still arguing this?
Jay has been a good QB coach since 2005. He got more out of QB 14 than anyone in the pros did… mostly out of necessity, but still
John has a long moustache
Yeah
At this point, my opinion has been that Jay is a good QB coach, but whoever was responsible for keeping Clark out of the games in 2007 is the reason we harbor so much QB14/jay resentment. Had Clark come in to a few games in 2007 we may have had a much better record and a much rosier view of that season…
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Joe has said publicly that it was more or less his fault.
I think he actually said that he regretted not listening to Jay who, at the time, was lobbying for Clark.
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the question to that, though,
has been whether this is the truth, or if this is Joe protecting Jay
by The JuggerNitt on Sep 5, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Father protecting his son
If Joe makes a stupid move people go , “Meh one or two dumb moves over 40 years…stuff happens”
HOWEVER, if Jay makes a mistake the Fire Jay Pa base goes crazy and says this is just another stupid thing he’s done.
I still think McQueary should be the QB coach
JayPa is ok, but Big Red actually played QB at the D1 level. I’m sure he has more to offer to young QBs than Jay.
have you watched our WRs?
Leave Red right where he is.
The best players
don’t always make the best coaches. Not saying Big Red would suck, but he might not be the better coach because he saw actual game snaps.
One could argue that McQueary is already better at coaching than he was at QB
And he’s not going to get any better as player.
by Frank O'Brien on Sep 5, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Leave everybody where they are.....
and some of you are really tough….Jay is a very good QB coach and this universal crap that you had to have been a great to coach positional FB is a load….and Frank O said it best. I doubt that Poz would be a great LB coach. There are a lot of good FB coaches out there that had trouble making their respective teams….I’m just sayin’.
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