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Alabama Crimson Tide Team Preview

Like waiting on the birth of your first child, the Penn State - Alabama game is finally upon us and we've only had to wait seven extra years.   If you asked a Penn State fan the chances of beating Alabama back on August 1st, a realistic one would have said slim to none.  One month later and one eye opening performance (by Rob Bolden) against 1-AA Youngstown State, Penn State fans seem to be singing a different tune.  The rumblings from the Nittany Lion faithful is that due to the performance of the true freshman Bolden against Youngstown State, Penn State has a legitimate shot at winning on Saturday against the Crimson Tide.  Before the chickens are counted, let's take a look at what exactly Penn State is up against on Saturday (here's a hint, they are a much better team than YSU.)

Alabama kicked off the season with a 48-3 beat down against over matched San Jose State (Jeff Garcia's alma mater.)  The result was par for the course.   Like many cupcake openers, Bama used this game to get reps for their younger players highlighted by redshirt freshman QB A.J. McCarron (9-14, 116 yds 1 TD) and redshirt freshman RB Eddie Lacy (111 yds 2 TDs.)  Lacy, who could start on just about every other 1-A team (according to Alabama fans), is the third best RB on the team behind Trent Richardson and Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram.

Quarterback

Greg McElroy, despite winning a national championship, is an average college QB.  Winning a national championship does not mean you are a great QB, either does throwing for 58 TDs and 5,000 yards.  Penn State had a similar type player win a national championship back in 1986 (John Shaffer) and you won't hear many PSU fans list Shaffer as an all-time great at the position.  McElroy is a system QB looking to avoid making mistakes instead of making big plays.  It also doesn't hurt to have two outstanding running backs behind you in Richardson and Ingram.  He isn't blessed with superior athletic abilities, but it is undeniable that Greg McElroy is a winner - plain and simple. 

Star-divide

McElroy had an efficient 2009 season completing 60% of his passes for 2,508 17 TDs and 4 INTs.  He's also aided by a top flight WR in Julio Jones, a luxury for any average QB, just ask Chad Henne (Braylon Edwards), Graham Harrell (Michael Crabtree), and Matt Leinart (Mike Williams.)  This type of playmaker can mask a quarterback's deficiencies and save a lot of busted plays and bad throws.

The entire playbook will be at the disposal of the redshirt senior QB.  He has been around long enough to know how to manage the ball game.  Look for McElroy to hand off the ball to Richardson and take a chance or two deep against our cover 3.

If something should happen to McElroy, McCarron would get the nod.  The former 4 star recruit is Saban's QB of the future and the Tide faithful have high hopes for him.  Saban even had to let the media and fans know that there is no QB controversy:

"We don’t have a QB controversy.  There were reasons for what we did last week, but that’s over and done with.  The reasoning and the purpose was AJ had never played in a game.  He’s a very capable guy, he’s going to be a very good player here, he’s a great sort of a guy to be in the position he’s in right now.  But he needed to get game experience."

Looks like Penn State isn't the only school that is a fan of a good old QB controversy.

Running Back

The good news is Heisman winner Mark Ingram most likely won't play on Saturday as he continues to recover from knee surgery.  The bad news, his backup Trent Richardson is better than him and will have plenty of opportunities (and carries) to show you. Penn State  fans should immediately stop worrying about a tainted victory due to Ingram's injury because Richardson is the real McCoy.  The true sophomore ran for 66 yds on only 10 carries and 2 TDs Saturday against the obviously over matched Spartans (Evan Royster only ran for 40 yds and 0 scores against YSU.)  As a team, Alabama rushed for over 247 yds and 4 TDs against San Jose State.  It won't be nearly as easy to run on Penn State, but Bama will try its luck at it.

Richardson can do it all (he also had 46 receiving yards against San Jose State) which could create match up problems for Penn State, especially if Lacy and Richardson are on the field at the same time.  A load at 220lbs, Richardson is at top speed within a few steps, a contrast to the patient running style of Royster.  Who would have thought Penn State would actually be hurt by the injury to Ingram.   With Ingram out, Lacy will get enough touches to be a change of pace to the punishing Richardson.

If the run defense is not sharp early on, Penn State could be in some serious trouble.  If Mark Ingram does suit up and play, expect it to be in a reserve role or for intimidation purposes only (like Bobbie Miles in Friday Night Lights.)

Wide Receiver/Tight Ends

Julio Jones.  That is the name you will need to remember come Saturday.  He is a home run threat in the receiving, running, and return game.  During his limited action against SJSU, Jones finished with 6 receptions for 98 yds and 1 TD.  He also had one carry for 14 yds.  Jones is a big time playmaker and the Alabama coaches will do what it takes to get the ball in his hands.  D'Anton Lynn and Stephon Morris will have their hands full with Jones, who at 6-4 220lbs with cheetah speed, is sure to create matchup problems for the smaller PSU secondary. 

Complimenting the all-everything Jones will be Marquis Maze, Darius Hanks, Earl Alexander, and Brandon Gibson.  Compared to Jones, Maze and Hanks look like Devon Smith (Maze is 5-10 and Hanks is 6-0.)  The Tight Ends (Preson Dial, Michael Williams, and Brad Smelley) shouldn't prove to be huge threats in the receiving game, but will look to open Grand Canyon still holes for Richardson and company.

Offensive Line

'Bama returned 3 of 5 starters from 2009. Jack Crawford and company will deal with:

Besides Fluker (a redshirt freshman that Penn State will look to exploit), the line isn't nearly as huge as one would think.  However,  besides Brandon Ware (who doesn't play), Penn State doesn't have a huge defensive line either.  If the Penn State defensive line can get enough pressure on its own, the linebackers will be able to make some plays.  However, if Tom Bradley has to use Nathan Stupar, Michael Mauti, and Gerald Hodges to to create the necessary pressure, Richardson and Jones might make PSU pay for it.

Defensive Line

In case you were wondering, Alabama runs a 3-4 defense.  This could be a good thing since Pannell and Klopacz won't have to deal with two big bodies in the middle, or a bad thing since they will have to deal with a fast, hard hitting linebacker.  Pick your poison.

Fortunately for Penn State (or unfortunately for Alabama) Marcell Dareus will have to miss the game on Saturday due to suspension.  Unlike on offensive, there is no Trent Richardson type to take Dareus' place.  This is a huge blow to the Bama front seven.  Dareus was the MVP of the national championship game and an absolute stud at defensive end.  Quinn Barham just caught a HUGE break (same with Bolden.)  Undra Billingsley will have the honor of trying to fill Dareus' Nike cleats.

Senior Luther Davis is the man at the other DE position.  Darrington Sentimore and Damion Square are the backups.  Look for the Tide to use some sort of rotation to fill in the hole that was Marcell Dareus.

Josh Chapman is the starter at nose tackle.  He is from Hoover High School in Alabama, however there is no word yet if he was featured on that terrible short lived reality TV show Two-A-Days.  His backup is Kerry Murphy, also from Hoover High School.  Those Crimson Tide sure love themselves some reality TV stars (obviously the Kardashian's were unavailable.)   Both nose tackles are big bodied guys that will look to get a nice push up the middle.  In just his second career start, Doug Klopacz will have his hand full all night..  If he gets blown up, like he did on a few plays against YSU, the PSU coaches will need to make an adjustment and quick.  Klopacz's ability to solidify the offensive line (especially the middle) is the key to Penn State's offensive game plan.

Linebackers

The 3-4 defense allows you to get one more big, fast twitch athlete onto the field and Alabama is not lacking in that department.  'Bama likes their outside linebackers smaller and quicker and their inside boys to be big time bangers.  Senior Chavis Williams (6-4, 223) will set the outside with junior Jerrell Harris (6-3, 231.)  Courtney Upshaw (6-2, 263) and Dont'a Hightower (6-4, 258) will clog up the middle.   Also keep an eye out for Chris Jordan (6-3, 232).

Hightower has been a stud since his freshman season.  He actually started the first four games last season before a torn ACL forced a medical redshirt.  He was part of the freshmen class that brought Alabama back into the big time and out of the Shula years.

The Alabama linebackers will be a good gauge on what type of night the Penn State offense is going to have.  If Hightower and company are in the backfield from the start, it is going to be a long night.  If Royster and Stepfon Green (maybe Silas Redd, but I doubt he'll see meaningful carries) can get to the second level, we may be in for something special.  As we know, you can't get to the second level, if the first level is in your backfield as soon as the ball is snapped.  Over/Under on the amount of "three yards and a cloud of dust" jokes by 'Bama fans (at the end of the 1st half): 4.5.

Defensive Backs

First-team All-SEC and third-team All-American Safety Mark Barron is the leader in the secondary.  Barron will create problems for Bolden and the passing offense.  Last season he led the SEC with seven interceptions and was second on the team with 76 tackles.  Barron's excellent ball skills are further complimented by his ideal 6-2, 210lb size.  Expect Barron to be making plays all over the field on Saturday night.  Sophomore Robert Lester will play Robin to Barron's Batman.

It looks like Derek Moye's height advantage will be tested when he matches up with 6-3 CB Dre Kirkpatrick.  Teaming up with Kirkpatrick will be JUCO transfer DeQuan Menzie.  Also in the mix will be B.J. Scott, a converted WR, Phelon Jones (LSU transfer), and true freshmen  DeMarcus Milliner and John Fulton.  On paper, it looks like Alabama has the size and speed to match up with Penn State's wideouts (including Penn State mighty mite, Devon Smith.)

Special Teams

Finally, Penn State's first clear cut advantage.  Thanks to the emergence of Collin Wagner (at least for one week), Penn State's kicking game is fairly solid.  Top it off with the sonic booms of Anthony Fera in the punt and kickoff games, and we should be good to go.

Alabama is starting true freshmen at kicker and punter this season.  Punter Cody Mandell averaged 40 yds a punt on his three punts against SJSU, with a long of 51 (Fera one punt, 45 yards.)  Fellow freshman Cade Foster was perfect on both of his attempts with a long of 41.  As for kickoffs, Foster had 8 attempts with one touchback (Fera also had 8 attempts with 4 touchbacks against YSU.)  As luck would have it, the freshmen get to punt and kick at home dealing with a friendly home crowd and not the 7pm Beaver Stadium fans. 

As for the return game, we've heard how dangerous Julio Jones is and we got to see how danagerous Chaz Powell is and how slick Devon Smith can be.  This area of the game is a push.

What it all Means

Nothing, that's why they play the game.  Paper always looks nice, but it is just that - paper.  We do know this game is important to both programs.  Alabama wants to stay on top and Penn State wants to inch closer to becoming a consistent national championship contender, not just once every four years.  With the talent (and speed) Alabama has on defense, expect Joe Paterno to play Paterno ball, conservative attack with a focus on the run and special teams. 

Bolden looked excellent against an overmatched Youngstown State team.  The fan base responded with optimisim and hope.  If Bolden can do the unthinkable on Saturday, he will be able to accomplish something the previous two starting quraterback's (Daryll Clark and Anthony Morelli) didn't - win a marquee regular season game. 

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Dynamite preview

especially all the line talk.

One point of clarification though: For me, any glimmer of hope for victory emanates from the defense (esp. the secondary), not Bolden.

"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno

by Illegal Formation on Sep 8, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree,

though I add Colin Wagner to my list of really, really important people. If this game is as close as we all hope it is, Wagner’s going to need to be damn near perfect.

by dwf5095 on Sep 8, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good preview, but...

I miss the “by the numbers” feature that Mike did last year. The one with the chart and the logos that compared the advantages and disadvantages of each team. I assume it’s just too early in the season for that kind of analysis. If that’s the case, can we expect to see the return of that feature by the time big ten play begins?

by lmrlion on Sep 8, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo

I’ll do those later in the year. It’s pretty worthless at this point in the year when PSU played Youngstown and Alabama played San Jose State. And comparing to last year makes no sense because those were different teams with different players.

I’ll break out those charts once the Big Ten season rolls around.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

can you at least do one that compares the things that matter

you know, like blandness of uniforms, hotness of cheerleaders (or dance team, my preference), age of coach, NCAA infractions, and GPA?

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 8, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet we get 2 Nittany Lion logos

for age of coach. Heh. He’s old, remember

by jimbo2psu on Sep 8, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

I hadn’t heard?

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Sep 9, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent write up

Everything was great until you mentioned Morelli….I threw up a little in my mouth then. Seriously though, they do have a solid team and they have some solid depth in key positions. Still, I think we have a chance if a- the “D” wraps up their tackles right from the start, b- the WRs hang onto the ball when Bolden puts it in their hands, c- the line gets some push and opens some holes, and d- the football Gods smile favorably on the seven chickens I will be sacrificing Friday night.

"Life's hard, but it's a lot harder if you're stupid." John Wayne

by RWReese on Sep 8, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I find it amusing

that there is a Bama player named Phelon. Is it pronounced the same as felon? It’s even more hilarious that he’s a transfer from LSU.

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by 06Lion on Sep 8, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

No..

I think it’s pronounced, “fay-lon”

"Life's hard, but it's a lot harder if you're stupid." John Wayne

by RWReese on Sep 8, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's because they can't read down south.

It’s clearly felon.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Sep 9, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's pronounced "fee-len"

not fel-on which, as a penn state fan, you should be pretty familiar with.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Muse....

just sayin….

The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital.
Joe Paterno

by jaytay13 on Sep 9, 2010 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have no idea how many stuck or have since been charged

but i guarantee you we got you beat. Jimmy Johns brought home the 08 Fulmer Cup singlehandedly. thats dedication penn state fans….

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Soo awesome

My favorite line:

There’s a fine line between dumping off a few grams for a friend for extra cash and being a responsible, diligent, and responsive coca dealer.

Who doesn’t love a responsible coca dealer?

Until our defense proves otherwise, it should be presumed they will be excellent.

by jtothep on Sep 8, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great writeup thanks!

McGloin Despite Them

Preaching the McGospel since Aug. 2nd, 2010

by millzners on Sep 8, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

What an opportunity this PSU team has...

…when you come into the game ranked all the way down in the high-teens and no one respects you, the quickest way to remedy the situation is to play the #1 team in the nation.

If we can pull this off, we will be officially ON THE MAP again.

by Dinsdale on Sep 8, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

We could beat Alabama the same way Iowa beat us last year.

Apply steady pressure on the Alabama offensive line by our front seven, have one or two broken plays go in PSU’s favor against Alabama’s defense or special teams, and PSU needs to recover after giving away a big play.

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by Cairo on Sep 8, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Sep 8, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

or just don't give up the big play

“bend but don’t break”

Trust in Robo

by tlrpsu on Sep 8, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

except against USC

then it is the BAAS (bend and also suck) defense

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 8, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

There was no bend there (in the football sense…)

That was pure suck.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Sep 9, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank god

we oversign at least 3 players every class make sure we have 25 players start every fall, or we might not have Eddie Lacy on hand to dole out some ass whoopin ;)…

jk folks. very much looking forward to the game. solid break down of the Bama squad as well. i would only add that Maze and Hanks are bigger playmakers than they get credit for because they are in Julio’s shadow, and our “game manager” QB frequently missed them on long passes last year. Mcelroy looked much sharper vs SJSU, (he’d damn well better!) but i think might be ona short leash after all. as you referenced in the post, Saban recently came out and said there’s no QB controversy. thats because one is brewing it would seem. AJ mccarron won the spring game with the 2’s vs. the 1’s, and AJ looked like a far better QB in the first half last week. AJ regressed to the Froshman mean in the second half though… regardless, what does it all mean? if mcelroy is sucking it up(like vs South carolina, ol miss, and tennessee last season), Saban will pull the trigger on AJ. and AJ looks close to fully ready…

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

But that AJ - Julio TD was ALL Julio

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by billycthulhu on Sep 8, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Feeling pessimistic today: 20-3 for Bama

My gut feeling is the PSU OL will have a rough day given that they failed to dominate YSU. So no running game, and Bolden gets hurried into throwing a couple of picks. If the defense gives an 8 yard BDBS cushion every play, Bama’s superior wideouts will take those 5 yarders consistently and break a few for bigger gains.

I do have some hope that Bolden will make some big plays and the special teams will be a positive factor.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I disagree on the Ingram commentary

We’re definitely catching a break w/ him out. He’s a powerful and elusive runner who’s damn hard to bring down. Ingram with Richardson filling in to spell him is a scary thought.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 8, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Right, let's not go nuts.

If Bama was better without Ingram playing then Saban would never play him. Yes, Richardson appears to be excellent, but together you have two backs with fresh legs all game long.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

Bama feels very confident in their ability to run the ball without Ingram available. However, there is no denying that Bama is a much, much better offense with Ingram playing.

by nashvillebama on Sep 8, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right,

The two aren’t really related. Yes Bama still may have reasons to feel confident in the run game. Yes the run game would be better with Ingram.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Richardson is better than Ingram

that means he’ll win the Heisman trophy. Not probable.

Trust in Robo

by tlrpsu on Sep 8, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Bama was better without Ingram

Saban would cut him to make room for more oversigning.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Sep 9, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

ingrams going to play

also. just so you guys know. he will play this weekend.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

Why would you ever have him risk a career ending injury THAT SOON after knee surgery? Let him prove himself in SEC play, if you ask me.

You guys will scream if Ingram goes down to a torn ACL. I know I would if John Clay did…

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the training staff says he's at greater risk of an injury

then i fully expect Saban to not play Ingram. but from what i’ve read and heard, the procedure was purely precautionary. they type of thing NFL backs schedule for a monday prior to a bye week, so they can be back without having missed a game. i dont know this to be personally true, its merely the cobbled together conjecture from the folks at RBR who DO know what they’re talking about.

as far as the drop off from ingram to eddie lacy. lacy doesn’t seem to be as good at reading/following blocks as ingram, and he fumbled it away at the goal line last week. but Lacy is certainly a stronger runner who will straight up knock a safety flat on his ass and keep rolling. all 3 of Bama’s top backs bring something different to the table. in my opinion, Richardson is the most well rounded (following blocks, reading the field, breakaway speed, blocking, receiving) of the group.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute:

Where’s Richardson? Is Lacy the 3rd down back?

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

if ingram sits out entirely

you will see Richardson get 70% of the snaps. Bama doesn’t rotate situational backs really (at least, not now that Roy Upchurch is gone…) and Eddie Lacy and Demetrius Goode getting the rest of the snaps. We’re not liekly going to see Lacy or Goode in many obvious passing situations as they are not as proficient at pass blocking (Ingram is recognized as the best RB for pass blocking, followed closely by Trent who’s really improved this year) as Trent Richardson is.

so, Trent will get lots of hand offs and probably run some wheel routes, as well as be the primary pass blocking back, if Ingram is not ready to go. for the most part, if Lacy or Goode are in the game, expect them to get the ball or a short pass to be dialed up.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saban believes otherwise

Hit me

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Sep 8, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saban SAYS otherwise

That Saban says “its unlikely at this point” reaffirms why i believe Ingram will play…

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't see it

They don’t need him. And the SEC schedule is so much more important.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Sep 8, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's playing too

I think we’re scaring Alabama more than we think we are… if he plays we’re really scaring them.

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Sep 8, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we're scaring the coaching staff more than we think we are.

and for the sake of our team, I hope we aren’t scaring the players as much as we probably should.

I don’t think he should play on Saturday. Not just because I want a better chance at winning or whatever the hell, but I’d hate to see a talented kid really hurt his chances at the NFL when, apparently, his backup is more than enough.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Sep 8, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Bolden I trust

If he wins this game he’ll go on to win 3 straight heismans before going to the NFL.

by buk110 on Sep 8, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

If Bolden wins this game...

Nike will have #1 PSU jerseys on sale at the Student Bookstore faster than you can say “quarterback disaster”.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

A friend mentioned they had already sold out last weekend.

Maybe he was confused and they hadn’t started selling them, but if PSU wins, this will be the hottest item of clothing since the popped collar fad of ’03.

@EpicTripod
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by Jeff Junstrom on Sep 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clothesline sent an e-mail last Thursday,

Order a #1 Jersey today or tomorrow (friday) and it will be ready to pick up Saturday (4th) morning.

by BMAN13 on Sep 8, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are sold out online

unless you fit into a small or 2X

by swiggy04 on Sep 8, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should hope most of us could at least fit into a 2X

now having it fit us…that’s a slightly different question :-p

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

not me

I wash myself with a rag on a stick…

by swiggy04 on Sep 8, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this fad?

just sayin….

The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital.
Joe Paterno

by jaytay13 on Sep 9, 2010 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

He just looks like an Irish Count Chocula

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Sep 9, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Count Cornedbeefula?

The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital.
Joe Paterno

by jaytay13 on Sep 9, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I threw things at those kids.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Sep 9, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of the Happy Side Effects

Of Bolden being named starter is that I have (hopefully) four more years of renewed life from my old Justin King jersey…

by QuakerLion on Sep 8, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

same here

I got my Justin King jersey back in his junior year, not knowing that he would be in the nfl after that year. Now with Bolden as the starter i can bring it back

Success with honor

by traditioncontinues on Sep 9, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that even possible?

What’s going to happen to Mark May? Will his fail levels go off the charts and he implodes on national tv ESPN2?

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

fixed...
What’s going to happen to Mark May? Will his fail levels go off the charts and he implodes on national tv ESPN2?

What’s going to happen to Mark May? Will his fail THE AWESOME levels go off the charts and as he implodes on national tv?

ABSOLUTELY!

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by bconway6 on Sep 8, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Bolden wins this games . . .

the internet will explode with the number of headlines that replace phrases with the word “bold” with “Bolden”

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

you might say, the teams spirits were emBoldened by his play?...

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by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't have a problem with you

Until now. I hate that word. It was all over PSU recruiting pages the day he committed, and I remember thinking… man, these people are as dumb as people at tWWL.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Sep 9, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Bolden wins this game...

It still won’t stop Bob Flounders from wishing it had been Pat Devlin under center.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

no it won't

Flounders has been sooooo anti PSU since PD tranferred, actually since he lost the starting job to Clark.

by BMAN13 on Sep 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hate to say it

but I’ve been saying since Ingram’s knee surgery that he wouldn’t be back for this game. There’s no way Saban risks losing his Heisman back to a torn ACL this soon after knee surgery.

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
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For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

all the insider rumors

have Ingram available for this game. Saban, Like Belliceck is well know for making obfuscatory statements relative to a players game readiness. aight?

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by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look...

I am NOT going to try and outguess Nick Saban. But if Ingram plays, he’s not going to be 100% unless he has the knee of Superman. And if he had the Knee of Superman, he wouldn’t have needed surgery in the first place.

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Superman's knee

is CLEARLY owned by Brett Brackett.

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn't even practiced

He will not play. However, while I would love to have him in there rotating with TR, TR is for real. That is not hype either.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he does?

thats why they’re insiders.

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by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either Way

Ingram isn’t going to be 100%. So if Saban thinks his best chance of winning is a Mark Ingram at 75% instead of a Richardson/Lacy at 100%…that’s his choice…can’t say i would agree…

Joe

by QBsneak12 on Sep 8, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats because you haven't watched TR

TR is more explosive and far more physically talented than MI. MI reads the blocks and has great balance. TR is not as shifty as Ingram but he is faster and stronger and just as hard to bring down. The only difference is that with both of them going, they are fresh in the 4th quarter.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you read his post wrong

I also think this is the second time I’ve told you this today

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Sep 8, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Ingram plays

it just means that I might have to sacrifice something more significant than seven chickens on Friday to appease the Gods of football and ensure the win. There’s a Buckeye tree in my neighborhood…maybe I’ll chop it down and burn it, then roast a wolverine, a badger, the eye of a hawk, and a wildcat over it. I have no idea where to get my hands on an elephant around here or I’d roast that too.

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by RWReese on Sep 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You'd be better off

slaughtering a gopher, a wolverine, a cornhusk, all the Buckeye nuts, and a Spartan. Good luck finding that last one.

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I try not to live where there are such things as buckeye trees...

Though if there was a single tree. It would not survive a win. It would stand in wonderfully for the elusive elephant.

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by bconway6 on Sep 8, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

off topic but....

You’re not going to credit Clark for the win at Ohio State in 2008 as a marquee win.

by stevea3 on Sep 8, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

that's a toughie

I’m one of the biggest Clark supporters out there, and while he didn’t lose that game, it is hard to say he won it, either.

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 8, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not that hard.

Penn State beat Ohio State. He played for Penn State. He won. Not that tough at all.

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by Roland86 on Sep 8, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

by the same logic

Stephon Green should get credit for the win at Ohio state in 28 as a marquee win.

As I said, love Clark, but all he did was not lose the game, and yes, oftentimes that is all you need to do, but still questionable to credit a guy with a marquee win when they were actually losing the game at the time they left. I’m not even saying that Devlin won the game. If anyone did it was Royster, or the O-line, or maybe TP losing the game.

This is why I’m saying it is a toughie, since PSU could have easily lost that game, with Clark playing the exact same game he played, but with Pryor not fumbling, or with Royster not scoring, etc.

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 8, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clark deserves a great deal of that credit for that win

Along with whole bunch of other players on that team. Clark was able to move the chains and keep tOSU’s defense on the field and that allowed Royster to get the easier yards in the fourth quarter. Had he done the same at Iowa, we would be having a different conversation.

by Frank O'Brien on Sep 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not trying to start an argument....

but I thought the original statement was incredibly unfair to Clark, saying he never won a marquee regular season game. He was the QB, the game was at Columbus against a #9 OSU team and PSU won.
We can split hairs about whether he “won” the game or “didn’t lose” the game but I count that as a marquee win for Clark.

by stevea3 on Sep 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly think bama can win without Ingram

so why chance it?

With Ingram – Bama 27-17
Without Ingram – Bama 23-20 (i foresee an extra FG)

Also Saban is saying on ESPN that Ingram likely wont play, but hes a douchnozzle so i wouldnt take his word for it.

by swiggy04 on Sep 8, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

You guys don't quite get it

Richardson is as good as Ingram. That’s not hype my friend. You’ll find out soon enough.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still though

No knocking on Richardson, but you can’t argue Alabama is stronger without Ingram. The guy won the Heisman.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, we do get it.

That confuses two different issues.

Issue 1: How good is Alabama’s run game without Ingram- answer, probably still excellent

Issue 2: Would it be BETTER with Ingram- I can’t believe there is anyone in the world that would say no to this

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is the only valid point that can be made

I realize that the fresh legs aspect of the duo will be missed. TR is a very physical back and can carry the load. If it weren’t for Ingram he would be in the Heisman talk. Hey, I’m not even saying you guys won’t shut him down. It will be a matter of how much PSU decides to sell out to stop the run. I also disagree with exploiting Fluker. He is a big time prospect who beat out some heavy competition to win that starting job. Coming out of hs he was a top 5 recruit at any position. Bama will be running right behind him. Trust me. He’s not a weak link. I watched this O-line dominate a lot of good defenses last year.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a weak link if he is not healthy, though.

I’m not saying I know the answer. But he still has to line up across from Crawford, and if he has a bad ankle, it’s not going to help.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's fine

practiced yesterday and reports are that he is fine. Crawford also has to line up opposite DJ.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, this is what I don't understand

Okay, Richardson is just as good (if not better!!!! No hype!). But wouldn’t you want him to spell a tired Ingram, thus having you two best backs rotating in fresh.

Ingram/Richardson > Richardson + whoever.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 8, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course but we don't have him

we have to go with what we have. I’m not going to whine like Texas fans if we lose the game. Quite frankly if we lose this game it will be because we have bigger problems then Ingram being out. It will not be because TR isn’t capable of moving the ball on the ground.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey may be as good as Ingram

but if so, wouldn’t 2 Ingrams be better than 1?

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 8, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course and you would like to have him too

who wouldn’t? I’m just saying it is not as big a break as some are making it out to be. Bama is really high on TR.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

On and individual level

sure, Ingram and Richardson may be equal. But you can’t deny that overall, you’re running game isn’t as scary with Richardson alone.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 8, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

For one game it won't make a difference

over the season it may. TR can carry the load. I’ll put it to you this way and end it at this. You guys will not face a better running back for the rest of the year. There I said it.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

good thing

you may lose the game if he did.

by swiggy04 on Sep 8, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

HARRY TRUMAN

good man…

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by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed.

and even without Ingram, its safe to say our RB by committee will be stronger than any other PSU will face all year as well. Richardson, Lacy, and Goode > every other RB group in the country

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by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

But really, no one here has even brought that up.

The whole point is that Ingram, Richardson, Lacy > Richardson, Lacy, and Goode.

Look, we’re previewing the game. It would be dishonest to act like not having your starting tailback wouldn’t change anything. That is, unless you are contending that if Ingram were healthy he would still not see the field and contribute?

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i contend that he will see the feild and contribute first of all

and second of all, i agree with you that “Ingram, Richardson, Lacy > Richardson, Lacy, and Goode.”

so, gues shtere’s nothing left to do but smoke a bowl/have a beer and play soem NCAA11 football online right? i’m on ps3, anyone else?

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offensive line??????

Why does no one in this conversation acknowledge the #1 key to a successful running game is the OL? The way Bama fans talk about Richardson reminds me of the Da Bears SNL skits where Ditka by himself is predicted to defeat all comers.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No we are just talking back

at the “yay Ingram’s out” crowd.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

the best way to refute the argument Ingram is out is to talk up your OL. Just sayin’. Bama dominated the LOS in the NT game. That wasn’t Ingram or Richardson, that was blocking. Personally, I consider Ingram’s injury isn’t a huge factor because the OL is still the same. I can’t fully grasp the Richardson is better argument, but if the OL is dominating, big fast running backs will have a field day at the 2nd level.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well they're both factors

Yes, the O-line has helped Ingram and Richardson out quite a bit, but that doesn’t change the fact that they’re very good RBs. The conversation was about the RB in the first place, so that’s what we decided to keep talking about. Claiming that Richardson is very good is not the same thing as forgetting our O-line exists

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by billycthulhu on Sep 8, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was no, or very little, "Yay Ingrams out" crowd

I think most people here still think Bama should win. But I wont pretend like it doesnt help our chances a little bit.

by swiggy04 on Sep 8, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one ever said "yay Ingram is out"

I think you just want us to say it does not matter, you have the best RB corp evah, and we might as well just give up now

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by letsgopsu on Sep 8, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is really over whether the Bama rushing attack is

better with Ingram or without Igram. I think that assumes constants along the OL.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is not in dispute

Only a fool would suggest we are better off without Mark Ingram. My only point is that TR is at least very close to MI. Where we will drop off is when we rotate to Lacy who although very talented has never played in a game this big. Of course we would rather have MI. That is not in dispute. At least not from me.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I hope that's the only point PSU fans are addressing.

No one is slighting Richardson, but we’re previewing our game and it would be dishonest not to discuss the potential impact if Ingram cannot go. If anyone is saying “YAYZ NO IGRAM”, probably best to just ignore them.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

the more you call Mark Ingram "MI" the less respect I have for him.

Though we could play a game.
Which is most likely to recover: Mark Ingram or the state of Michigan?

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 8, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say Michigan State

But NOT Michigan.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly i'm not sure about our O line

we lost a couple dudes, and have fluker at RT right now, but supposedly another guy, mccullagh i think?, has swaped rotations with him in practice over the last few weeks. some people say we have 8 guys now who are bad ass and we’re just finding our right mix. but an overlooked thing IMO about last years team, was our pass protection could have been much better.

we frankly dont yet know if this years O line will be worse, as good, or better than last years O line in pass protection. I tell you one thing, if all i’ve heard about PSU’s defensive philosophy (“simple 4 man rush up front, cover 3 and occasional blitzs from LB’s or DB’s”) is true, i think that helps Bama’s o line keep their bearings during their first true test as a unit. i imagine y’all will at least run some stunts, right?

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by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

we aren't fast enough

for blitzing

Trust in Robo

by tlrpsu on Sep 8, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe

PSU is not one to run anything too complicated. The D mostly plays by the KISS rule: keep it simple stupid! Sure, there may be a few stunts, zone blitzes and obvious blitzes here and there, but if the front 4 is getting into the backfield then the scheme isn’t too important. If the front 4 aren’t getting pressure or holding their gaps, you’ll have a field day. Odrick was a monster, so it remains to be seen what the interior line will do.

This gets a bit frustrating since a pro-style offense will pick this apart taking advantage of the space in front of CBs in the Cover 3. It remains to be seen if the DL will be disruptive enough to keep things under wraps. If not, the scheme is not going to be adapted—this we know from experience.

Also, PSU often likes to blitz the slowest linebacker. I know, it’s pointless, but we dial it up anyway for some reason.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don't watch much defense

PSU runs the cover 3 and cover 2 zones but the backers and line are constantly changing up looks and schemes. Lots of stunts, even d-ends dropping into the zone with 2 backers blitzing. Not sure about your slowest guy blitzing scheme. Any of the 3 come at any time. Lots of delayed blitzes in long yardage spots.

by BMAN13 on Sep 8, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true

I’m not a DC, but I play one on TV. And I like the party line of “Cover 3: Bend But Don’t Suck.”

I mainly was referring to Josh Hull blitzes with “slow LB.” Good LB, not really all that slow, but he never seemed to be getting to the ball as fast as I’d like.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

watch any of our middle blitzes, they read first then hit a gap. The delay makes them seem slow, Poz read much faster than anyone and spoiled us. Hull was good and got pressure like he is supposed to, Poz was at another level.

by BMAN13 on Sep 8, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our back that is next in the depth chart

rushed for 111 yds on 13 carries. The depth at running back will not be an issue.

by bamafannms on Sep 8, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does not compute

So your NT winning coach is wrong for starting a Heisman winning running back? This takes Monday morning QB-ing to a whole new level. I’ve seen Richardson run and yes he’s a big, fast talented back. But usually successful coaches feature one back over another for a reason. Not to mention many running backs look great as the #2 in a committee, but drop a few YPC when they move up to full time starter.

I’m not disagreeing with Richardson’s quality, but I don’t quite grasp the whole second guessing of your coach. You went 14-0. It’s not possible to go 15 – (-1) or get a Double Heisman.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

they will split the carries

when Ingram returns. Where do you see me second guessing NS? I’m telling you that Richardson is not a “back up” Ingram and TR going into this season were slated to be 1 and 1a. I’m done talking….you’ll see Saturday night for yourself and then we can chat on Sunday.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Richardson has nothing to prove to me

I saw what he did to Texas. Still, coaches evaluate the player as a whole. Richardson may be faster and break tackles better, but maybe his blocking is suspect or he is a less reliable receiver. I take a wait and see attitude. PSU has underclassmen who are bigger and faster than starter Royster, but if the coaching staff felt they were better all around backs they’d be starting.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

your are right about the receiver thing

Ingram is an excellent receiver. Big loss in the passing game because he was excellent at protection too.

by BMAN13 on Sep 8, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i honestly would be surprised

to see Trent get more total carries than Mark, even if we throw out the games in which Mark didn’t play. Trent’s potential is beyond that of Ingram. Trent has the capability to become the greatest RB Bama has ever produced. (better than major ogelvie, shaun alexander, mark ingram, et al)

Saban places a high priority on experience and ball security. Ingram is a 3rd year player with 1 career fumble (lucky ass kiffin) and more time in the system. But as Trent becomes a seasoned 2nd year player i wouldn’t be surprised (am kind of expecting) to see him assume the “1a” role and Ingram be relegated to the “1b” role. Richardson has better hands, is faster, and harder to bring down.

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by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wouldN'T......

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by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again

I trust that Richardson is a beast of a runner, but as an overall back, I will wait and see. Does he block? Does he read the play well? Can he catch? There is more to tailback than just running, though it is an easier position for raw talent to impact positively.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a complete back

Mark is 1 and he is 1a. You’ll see. Get your popcorn ready.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

best receiving tailback on the team, no doubt

his two areas where he was not up to Ingrams level last season were Pass blocking, and following blockers/shiftiness. Against SJSU he wasn’t challenged all that much but do make a great block on mcelroys 40 yd td pass to Maze, and according to practice reports and coach Saban himself, Trent has made tremendous strides of improvement when it comes to pass protection. as for following blockers, seeing holes before they develop? eh, thats hard to quantify, i dont think i’ve ever seen anyone with Ingrams ability in that respect. Richardson will straight up knock the first tackler on his ass then out run every person on the field though. so, thats how he makes up for the “vision” disparity between himself and Ingram.

our drop off in production will likely come when Lacy is on the feild, and thats because we’re not likely going to use him for pass blocking or anything. when he’s on its because we’re handing it off to him…

also having Ingram out probably impacts our “Wild Elephant” package. Over the last year and in the spring game we’ve seen our TE, Trent, Ingram, and Julio take the snaps. Probably 70 % were snaps to Ingram where he just ran a power to one side….

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by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

just give up

Joe Paterno - Not Unlike Hugh Hefner

by letsgopsu on Sep 8, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Read

not to nitpick but Courtney Upshaw plays the Jack Linebacker which is a hybid DE. Harris is playing on the inside, but don’t be surprised if you see some of Hightower at the jack and Nico Johnson playing the Mike. Harris is a little undersized but very athletic and has played on the outside. Bama will play a lot of different linebackers. Also. Lacy is very good and will be part of the two back rotation. He is 210 and runs a 4.4.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

from what i hear

he is better than Ingram AND Richardson. If bother Ingram and TR were hurt, the running game would be better.

by swiggy04 on Sep 8, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little troll I see

ok my last reply to the little troll. there are plenty of serious PSU fans to chat with.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not around here.

Seriousness is frowned upon.

"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno

by Illegal Formation on Sep 8, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty serious

just dont understand the rationale that losing a heisman trophy winner is a good thing for your team or doesnt hurt your running game. And if i was trolling i wouldnt have picked bama to win with or without ingram as i did above. i just thought you werent being serious so i was being sarcastic back.

I wholeheartedly agree TR is a great RB, but to me its a bit shortsighted to just brush off losing a player like Ingram.

by swiggy04 on Sep 8, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never did I say we are better off without Mark

We are hoping he gets back soon. We are a better team with him for sure but we don’t have him for this game. I’m saying our running game will still be very formidable and that TR can carry the load.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

swiggy posted like 5 times in a row

“bama’s back ups are better than the starters so we may as well not show up” or garbage to that extent. thats probably why Mobilematt called him that. a little further down, i insinuate that your friend here is a dickhead. we all do things we’re not proud of sometimes. (“sickest f-in thing i’ve ever seen. damn f@ggots”/sarcasm)

so who wants to play a game on PSnetwork?

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Bama people replied back,

“Richardson’s as good as, if NOT BETTER” each time.

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Sep 8, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed. as they should

because he is. the issue at hand though is what effect will this have on total RB output. that is where shit got all les miles on everyone. total confusion. we eventually consensed upon the following: “Ingram, Richardson, Lacy > Richardson, Lacy, and Goode.”

richardson really is better though.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Saban didn't start the better man last year?

Not that it’s a policy totally unfamiliar to us. I don’t understand why Saban would bother with Ingram if Richardson is so awesome. Was Richardson a freshman last year?

by dwf5095 on Sep 8, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

trent

wasn’t the better back last season. he looks to be the better of the two now though. he’s improved his pass blocking enough to where he’s not a liability at all, he’s always been the better receiver, he’s always been faster, and he is certainly now, the stronger runner. Once Ingram gets back i expect you will see them split carries 50/50, and that Trent will get the majority of the passes.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

200 total yards for trent

not including return yards. guaranteed.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Penn Stater,

I am obliged to disagree. Realism is for casual fans. I drink the blue and white kool aid.

by dwf5095 on Sep 8, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be somewhat stunning

as I believe no back has done that since Ron Dayne at Wisconsin in the late 90s. Heck, he might not have been able to do that…

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe our defense is taking whats his face's advice,

and just isn’t bothering to show up?

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Sep 8, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that was the case

the 2004 Penn State team would have lost to 2004 Wisconsin 70-3. Because if they hadn’t shown up, the offense sure as hell wouldn’t have bothered playing.

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

id look better too

if my competition wasnt playing because of knee surgery.

by swiggy04 on Sep 9, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I keep telling y'all about arguing with many Alabama fans.

They just keep repeating the same non-sensical lines until you either agree with them or one of you leaves. I don’t understand how with 1 game against a cupcake that anyone can make the argument that the #2 RB is better than the returning Heisman Trophy winner.

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Sep 8, 2010 8:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

B/c

he only averaged 1 less yard per carry last year than Ingram. And he looks so much better than Ingram now.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 8, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's because Ingram didn't play.

Of course he looks better than someone sitting on the bench! LOL!

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Sep 9, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure i said it 5 times

but isnt that the argument you are making anyway? You’re saying the backup is better than the starter? I think you even made that argument with the QBs earlier.

by swiggy04 on Sep 9, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

not quite

as some of the non-dickheads on here have already pointed out. if that were true then Lacy would be the starter now. no one, besides you, has suggested that the lose of Ingram makes Bama stronger. But instead that Richardson is at least equal to if not better than Ingram in his own right. The area for concern will be the 3rd back, in this case, Eddie Lacy. who is also a bad ass, and i guarantee will level at least one PSU defender this saturday. regardless, Ingrams injury wont amount to much, as i expect he’s going to play anyways. probably get about 10-15 carries, maybe more. But mostly Ingrams injury wont matter because even Eddie Lacy is capable of tearing through your soft defensive front like a hot knife through butter. Richardson is (always was) going to have a straight up field day. Say it with me loser, “S” “E” “C” “speed”…

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really, man...

The SEC speed agreement?

Maybe back in 1985…yes. But i’m pretty sure Penn State has plenty of team speed at this point.

Joe

by QBsneak12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont know about the league speed

but this Bama team has plenty of it.

Roll Tide!

by mobilematt12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

As does Penn State

Both schools recruit plenty of HS track stars. Ours happen to come from States like Michigan, Maryland, Ohio, New York.

That’s the only difference. I think the SEC speed talk has been beat to death.

Joe

by QBsneak12 on Sep 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only place where Alabama will have a speed advantage is their Dline against our Oline. Other than that it’s pretty even.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know who had SEC speed in 1985?

Matt Knizner.

"Until somebody knocks you on your rear end, and pardon me ladies, but unless somebody knocks you on your rear end, you're never going to learn." - Joe Paterno

by Illegal Formation on Sep 8, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Shit just got real.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Sep 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

apology

sarcasm doesn’t play well, i get it.

I guess, being a dickhead, i extrapolated that conclusion by reading your idea that Bama will not lose a step without Ingram because TR is just as good or better. To me, being without a Heisman running back would be a disadvantage no matter who i had as a backup, because there is a reason he is the backup . But you are correct, no one flat out said you’re better, just that Richardson was better. For that i genuinely apologize. For my baseline argument that Im not sure TR is better, we will see on Saturday, but being an outsider to the program i dont know how you can disregard a Heisman winner for a backup.

As for your speed, I bow before it (that is sarcasm again, please dont call me a dickhead, its a defense mechanism). I wish you good luck Saturday, and im sorry i hurt feelings making ridiculous nonsensical arguments in a sarcastic manner, just seemed like you were doing the same.

by swiggy04 on Sep 8, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

no need to apologize

and sorry for alluding to you being a dickhead, I refrained from outright calling you one you might note ;). i’d say you just need to work on your sarcasm a bit. i mean it wasn’t funny or ironic, it was just dead horse beating and petulant strawman tactics that i’m so accustomed too seeing from butt hurt university of aubrun fans…

sound sliek we can all agree, Bama would be batter off with a fully healthy Ingram. and that we’ll have to disagree about the relative level of drop off between him, Richardson, and Lacy. Seems you’d argue its a significant different whereas i’d argue its negligible. good day.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, i r english as a second language transfer student from latvia

please bear with me on some of these typos…

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

iz trying

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rambler Used Cars?

Nice…

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nowadays they call them “Certified”. Same Shiite.

by Pentimental on Sep 8, 2010 5:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Close

It does have invisibility and a bulletproof chassis. And special anti-Wolverine rocket launchers. Can’t forget the anti-Buckeye flamethrowers, either.

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right it wasn't funny

what is funny is Alabama fans coming here to puff their chest and tell us that their backup RB is better than their starter. Thats fine. Sounds like you believe it, which is good cause I’m convinced the reason you guys have said it so much is more to convince yourselves its true than it is to convince us. Is he better? I don’t care. In the grand scheme of things it doesn’t matter, I think Bama is a better team with or without Ingram, as Ive said many times, and Penn State is a longshot to win no matter who suits up.

If I’ve been to RBR its once or twice, and I’ve never commented there (even though im a troll). But if I did comment there that Stefphon Green is better than Royster, or that Bolden is the second coming of Vince Young I would expect there to be negative reactions to that, because RBR is not the forum for that. I personally find the idea that a backup running back can possibly be better than the incumbent starter with a Heisman trophy in his possession laughable (and i suspect most would feel the same way). I would also bet my house that if Richardson AND Ingram were both out of this game, you’d be on here telling me that Eddie Lacy is actually better than both (which is what i insinuated in my earlier comments). You already said he’d melt our soft line like a hot knife through butter and gave me his mutant like size and speed breakdown, so its already started.

Whoever plays plays, and in my honest opinion Alabama is in better shape to win the game regardless of personnel. In fact, i believe you jumped down my throat following a comment I made saying that Bama would win either way, just i think its closer without Ingram (I still do). Either way I look forward to the game on Saturday and a spirited debate no matter the outcome of the game is always welcome (unless ’Im hammered from drowning my sorrows/celebrations in Yeungling at the time).

Does that make me a dickhead? I’d go with more of a jackass, but these are just semantics.

by swiggy04 on Sep 9, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Should you really...

…walk into another man’s house and call him a d*ckhead, especially when it is just ridiculous prognostication about a game that has yet to be played?

I have very close friends who are Tide fans. I think they would be ashamed.

by Pentimental on Sep 8, 2010 5:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

right here, you want some?

please do not take this as an actual threat. this was a joke.

sincerity/

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey

it’s all in good fun

Trust in Robo

by tlrpsu on Sep 8, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool

yeah, fatty with a kitana blade on his webcam struck me as funny. hope’d to share… i’m having trouble not startin up shit though. think i really should go play PS3 now. y’all have a good one now…

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great write-up

All the angles are covered here.

The Ingram thing is still a bit of a mystery. Saban’s comments are as vague and non-committal as you’d expect. He does imply that he won’t play Ingram if he doesn’t get enough practice time in beforehand, which is as close to a definitive statement as we’re going to get on the matter. But none of this really matters for Penn State’s preparations; I’m sure the coaches are scouting all of Alabama’s RBs.

Losing Ingram is definitely a tough break for Alabama. Their fans may be singing the praises of Richardson and Lacy while predicting little to no drop-off in the running game, but the fact remains that a RB corps without Ingram is a lot weaker than one with him. Penn State’s front seven—particularly Crawford—need to step it up a little bit from last week if they’re going to gain the upper hand against Alabama’s running game, but the opportunity for them to gain that upper hand is there.

by newenglandnittanylion on Sep 8, 2010 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

At some point...

it seems the trash talking has started! I have nothing but respect for PSU, so i will refrain from any trash talking. My question is about the PSU passing game. As you guys (PSU fans) probably know, Bama is fielding a very inexperienced secondary. That is my main cause for concern regarding this game. Do you guys feel you have the offensive line to give a true freshman qb the time to throw the ball? Considering that Bama will probably be trying to force PSU to beat us via the pass. Our strength is in the front 7, therefore I feel (and I could be wrong here) that Bama is going to be able to stop PSU’s running attack, unless loosened up by the pass.

by nashvillebama on Sep 8, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

You and I are on the same page in many respects.

That’s also what I feel is the only gameplan by which PSU can have success. I thought the o line looked much better in pass protection than run blocking. That said, I’m still worried. I take some comfort in how quickly Bolden gets rid of it. 3 steps, plants feet, ball is out before the receiver turns around (granted, I’ve only seen it ~29 times).

For me the only possible wrinkle is a total change in game plans. I think you could see a lot more designed plays to take advantage of Bolden(and I think Nesome)’s legs. If there is a really varied short pass, option, run, pass mix, maybe a chance for success. But this whole game starts and ends on the oline.

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll have to see. If the O-Line cannot protect Bolden I think you will see PSU adjust by rolling out the pocket and letting him throw on the run. He’s a pretty agile and athletic kid and reports are he can do it pretty well. But can’t honestly say we’ve seen it first hand yet.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

O-Line

If they can keep Bolden off the turf, he might be able to do some things. Bolden did not showcase his running ability last week, he does have a little wiggle to get out of the way of trouble. But even so, if ‘Bama is in the backfield as soon as the ball it snapped, it won’t matter how fast he is.

Joe

by QBsneak12 on Sep 8, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I think you will see PSU run a lot of bubble screens and flares out to the WR’s. A lot of three step drop stuff to slow down the Alabama blitzes.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you nashvillebama,

you are one of the few Bama fans I’ve seen admit your team might actually have a weak area/cause for concern

by jrock4 on Sep 8, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is refreshing isn't it?

I read this morning that Alabama returns 10 starters and PSU returns 12, but yet everyone has reached the conclusion that PSU is outmanned and too inexperienced to win this game or even keep it close.

by BSD on Sep 8, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

o line.

We are in it if the o line doesn’t go Iowa/OSU

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 8, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not making another O-line picture

so they better step it up over those performances.

by Screen Name 20 on Sep 8, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alabama doesn't have any true starters.

Anyone who saw meaningful snaps last year was a starter. Therefore, they are not replacing ANY starters at all. Don’t you know that they’re defense is all experienced guys and there will be absolutely no drop off at all??!! YOU DIDN’T KNOW THAT? YOU DICKHEAD!!

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Sep 8, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

finally,

someone gets it.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Sep 8, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

she was smacking you around.

by Pentimental on Sep 8, 2010 9:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think someone got owned

instead of getting understood…

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think you're right

as is Pentimental

Trust in Robo

by tlrpsu on Sep 9, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, Pentimental is correct.

Did I not show enough sarcasm in that post? DAMN, we need to create a sarcasm emoticon right now (Help, pentimental??)! Alabama fans just frustrate the hell out of me sometimes, maybe because I have to deal with them on a daily basis.

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Sep 9, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look,

I totally understood your post was completely sarcastic. Because taking something like that at face-value is something that’s reserved for Michigan blogs.

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 9, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's any consolation, I lol'ed at your post for about five minutes.

I believe tempebamafan has earned a Bazinga from me.

The Swamp's home field advantage is so devastating, it stifled the Florida offense as well as the other team's...
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 9, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

I laughed at your response to tempebamafan, too. I just didn’t reply to both of you, so my apologies :o) I think Alabama and Michigan fans are about the same amount of delusional.

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Sep 9, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

reference here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn2S7fq_p1E

The Swamp's home field advantage is so devastating, it stifled the Florida offense as well as the other team's...
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 9, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, their not they're

(although a lot of us in Alabama pronounce it with two syllables).

For the glory

by Paige2PSU on Sep 8, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda hard

not to admit we do have weaknesses. We actually have huge weaknesses. The secondary is probably our biggest. We also have weaknesses in special teams. Freshman punter and fg kicker. It’s a tossup on which one causes me the most concern. Inevitably, a game will come down to a field goal. Inevitably, our secondary will get burned, especially in the early season. I like to think Saban will do a good job of masking our weaknesses by defensive schemes, but its only a matter of time until our youth in several key areas will be called on to perform in clutch situations. Much like you guys are going to experience this year with a new qb. I am actually leaning more towards this game being close nature. The more I am learning about PSU, it appears our strengths and weaknesses will be matched up. For example, our inexperienced secondary vs an inexperienced qb. Our offense against a good PSU defense. It looks to me like it may be a heart-attack inducing game. I just hope Bama will come out on top! Either way, were all going to know a lot more about our teams after Saturday night!

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!

by nashvillebama on Sep 8, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

the strengths and weaknesses do match up pretty well

and it will really hinge on how good your front 7 is vs our potentially shaky O-line (they’re not terrible, but not solid, either, at least not yet).

Our special teams unit was terrible last year, but showed some promise in the first game (admittedly against a 1-AA team), so take that for what it’s worth.

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 8, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here

Our special teams looked outstanding minus one shanked punt. But, everyone’s special teams should look outstanding against the likes of San Jose State. Like I said, I think were gona learn a lot about our teams Saturday night.

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!

by nashvillebama on Sep 8, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I do not trust the OL

It could not dominate YSU on every level like it should have. Even with new starters, Bama should easily control the LOS. So I am pessimistic the offense will do much now unless individuals make big plays here and there.

by gcdyersb on Sep 8, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why make the trip to Tuscaloosa?

I’m looking forward to this as a measuring stick to see where PSU falls right now against one of the top teams in college football. There’s such a small sample size of games between the elite teams in the elite conferences that it leaves so much to speculation. The SEC, along with tWWL, claims they are the top dog right now and they’ve been able to prove it in the recent BCS Championship games but how does that project to head to head matchups. Bama fan likes to point out that they ran over, around and through Texas’ highly ranked rushing defense last year. However, if they had watched any games in the Nintendo XII last year they would have observed that none of those teams could or would run the ball against Texas or anyone else. It’s not their style of play. Look what Oklahoma did to Stanford in the Sun Bowl last year, they amassed a whopping 59 yards on 38 carries. I find it fascinating that the styles of play in relatively isolated ecosystems of different conferences have diverged from each other. Some teams seem to really struggle with this in Bowl Games and OOC matchups, others can adapt or maybe their slight variation of the conference model holds up better when the divergent styles meet.

We’re also told that the SEC has superior depth of talent than the other conferences. If so, they should dominate the non-BCS bowls. Each conference has consistently sent 2 teams to BCS games however; the Big Ten has won more Capital One and Outback Bowls primarily matching up the conferences third and fourth place teams. When you take out Ohio State the Big Ten has done very well against the SEC. I can’t figure out why Tressel’s teams can dominate in the Big Ten but get blown away by SEC teams while PSU, Michigan, Iowa and Wisconsin do relatively well.

Granted, Penn State and Alabama are not the same teams they were last year and we all acknowledge that the transitive property does not work well in College Football but I still want to look at Tennessee and LSU, Penn State’s most recent SEC opponents, to see how they fared against Alabama last year. We heard the same thing from them, they have more athletes and we’ll be awed by their team speed, we weren’t. (‘Bama mouth breather has told us that "those are rivalry games and those teams get pumped up when the play us". I’m sure they were just showing up for the SWAG at the bowl games then. Even so, we like to play these rivalry games as well.) Each of those teams was competitive in Tuscaloosa last year so I think we may be alright.

Will Alabama win by two TDs, maybe, I’m expecting us to fare a little better. I’m going with a lot of Wagner and a 16-7 win for the good guys.

It will be a lot of fun; I can’t wait to see how it turns out.

by Frank O'Brien on Sep 8, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Should be a great game

I’m not too worried about our running game – hopefully we can do some more passing downfield and such than we were able to do last year. I don’t want to open up a pointless argument again – I will just say I am confident in Richardson’s abilities, but it’s obvious that it would be helpful to have 2 RBs of high quality on the field. On paper (for whatever that’s worth), or O-line may be able to improve on pass protection this year, though it’s been pointed out that Fluker will likely be the weak link and I expect him to be picked on.

I think a lot of the game will come down to how each team’s o-line stands up to a defense that wants to exploit any weaknesses they might have. Also, I feel a little better about our special teams than I did last week but we’re still starting true freshman and they will make freshman mistakes at some point or another.

Our secondary is our obvious weak spot in our defense (except Barron), and I imagine we might try some pass rushing to mitigate that – it will be tougher without Dareus for sure, but I think it’s still a stronger element of the team than the secondary. Lester made some good plays last week but he also got burned a couple times when he shouldn’t have.

Anyway, I’ll be there with my wife and father-in-law, and we’re very excited about the game. Come have a beer with us on the quad and we can argue about Ingram and Richardson in person!

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Sep 8, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

As a Bama fan...

… can yall get rid of Mobilematt? Im sick of him too.

Er, Mr. Payne. Sir. You know every second that you could let us out early would really increase our chances of survival.

It's like our sergeant told us before one trip into the jungle.
Men!
Fifty of you are leaving on a mission. Twenty-five of you ain't coming back.

by otisnixon'sparty on Sep 8, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

When has

Penn State been a national title contender in the last 15 years?

www.midnightmaize.blogspot.com

by Dark Blue on Sep 8, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe

 if it hadn’t taken you all of one minute to join Black Shoe Diaries and post something this inflammatory, I’d feel the slightest bit bad about what I’m about to do.

Can anyone answer Dark Blue’s ill-phrased question? Rambler? Junny? Paige?

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 8, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michigan wins one game...

and all of a sudden it’s like that old song, “The freaks come out at night…”

You couldn’t find a Michigan fan on a Penn State site, much less the sports blogsphere as a whole, for the past 2 years.

Enjoy your stay at BSD…well, at least until you disappear during Big 10 play.

Computers rank me number 1, blame the BCS...it's their fault.-Joe Budden

by OMEGAMAN on Sep 9, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could you find a Wisconsin fan on BSD for a while?

That’s one thing that I wish there were more of on B5Q. It’s a great site, but there isn’t nearly enough traffic.

By contrast, I look at Arrowhead Pride and am instantly blitzed by about 23 stories, 29 fanposts, 78 fanshots… Yeah. It’s a crazy world.

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 9, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

What on earth does that have to do with this post?

Bit of advice: Trolling seems to be more effective when the comments are in context. Non sequiturs make you look like an amateur.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Sep 9, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

This
Alabama wants to stay on top and Penn State wants to inch closer to becoming a consistent national championship contender, not just once every four years.

I asked a legitimate question.

www.midnightmaize.blogspot.com

by Dark Blue on Sep 9, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

My sincerest and most genuine apologies.

I assumed that because the article generally dealt with the upcoming Alabama game, and everyone so far had been discussing the upcoming Alabama game, that this thread might just be focusing on the upcoming Alabama game.

Feel free to ask your legitimate, not-at-all trolling question. I’m sure more experienced people than I will answer it thoroughly.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Sep 9, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

2005

your team stood in the way. and we weren’t good enough to win.

Trust in Robo

by tlrpsu on Sep 9, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

The magical 2 seconds have run their course...

Consecutive blowouts of Michigan aren’t too bad.

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 9, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, it's a good point.

2005 and 2008 are only 3 years apart, not 4. I know we can be a bit pessimistic about our own team, so thanks for helping out. Come back any time!

by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 9, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't mean to imply

That Michigan was some kind of National Championship powerhouse, because as we know, I NC in the last in the last 60 years doesn’t give me any room to talk. I was asking an honest question. My intention never has, nor will it ever be to troll a rival big ten blog. Sorry for any confusion.

www.midnightmaize.blogspot.com

by Dark Blue on Sep 9, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you really didn't mean to be insulting,

Then I’ll give a real apology. Color me naive, but I genuinely believe that every fanbase has its share of intelligent, polite, rational fans (for the record, I also believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus). Seeing one person ruin the reputation of the rest is absolutely infuriating to me. I read the tone of the comment wrong.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Sep 9, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

No harm

no foul. For the record I hope Penn St. beats the crap outta Bama.

In the future I’ll put a little bit more thought in the question before I ask it. Also just a heads up, I’ll probably be back often during Michigan/Penn St. week, not to troll but to get the oppositions opinion on the game.

www.midnightmaize.blogspot.com

by Dark Blue on Sep 9, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks,

And as a student with tickets in the student section, I can’t wait for Michigan/Penn State. It’s the best game we have at home this season.

"We have the plainest uniforms you can make. We know who we are. We are Penn State, and that's something special."

by dwf5095 on Sep 9, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa!

Major plot twist. I think I like you.

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Sep 9, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey pal

there is only room for one troll on this site and its me. so back off.

btw did you pick 15 years cause 16 years ago we were undefeated? but 2005 as well. So in answer to your question twice (94 and 05) in 16 years to Michigan’s once (97).

by swiggy04 on Sep 9, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

and not that it succeeded

but we had a MNC run in 1999, and if instant replay were around in 2002, then we’d have made a good run that year, too. Heck, 1997 could even be considered a “run”. So yeah, since 1995 (because 1994 was our last undefeated season), we’ve had runs in:
1997
1999
(2002)
2005
2008

Sure, none of those panned out, but the talk and hype were there for pretty much every one of those seasons, late into the season. Only one team can actually WIN it any year, and only 2 teams can actually PLAY for it since the BCS started up, and yes, Penn State has never been included (though 2005 we technically would have finished the BCS standings #2 if we retroactively take away USC’s forfeited wins), but they are at least in contention, and in the discussion.

by The JuggerNitt on Sep 9, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought about 08

but I used a cutoff as a 0 or 1 loss team. All of those crossed my mind, but i was looking at it from a perspective of realistically having a shot at seasons end.

But I fully agree, and actually didnt think of 1997 as Juggernitt pointed out.

by swiggy04 on Sep 9, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

if you consider ties with Nebraska national titles, we should have one too. As far as recent runs, 2005 and 2008 were both teams seconds away from undefeated seasons. That’s a NT contender, though I think both of those teams had weaknesses that would have been exposed later if they hadn’t lost. And that ’08 team was exposed when playing on the road at USC in the Rose Bowl.

by gcdyersb on Sep 9, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

But for Oregon,

Penn State wins that Rose Bowl rematch against Oregon State. USC, having lost the head-to-head contest with Oregon State, would be knocked out (and probably have played Texas in the Fiesta Bowl).

Can Abbrederis shoot the long three and effectively distribute the ball to his big men?
"Because one of the great minds of the 21st century is raising glow-in-the-dark fish and weaving serapes..." -Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory
For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 9, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of what ifs

What if Royster isn’t injured, or Maybin isn’t called offside, or Green doesn’t fumble, or Mays is ejected for head-hunting. But that 2nd quarter was such a monumental collapse, it wasn’t a matter of one or two breaks. We were owned. But I’m still proud of the way that team came out like it was 0-0 in the 2nd half and made a less embarrassing scoreline out of it. The Green fumble was probably a 10 point swing right there, and that killed it.

Yeah, we would beat OrSt, but that wasn’t who we were facing. We had an away game at the most talented* team in 2008 and imploded.

*Because their players were bought, but I’m just jealous of course.

by gcdyersb on Sep 9, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions