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Penn State Falls In Final Seconds At Purdue, 63-62

Every home game, before Penn State takes the floor at the Bryce Jordan Center, the production folks run an intro video with highlights set to Jay-Z's "Run This Town." In case you're not familiar with the lyrics, here's the refrain.

Life's a game but it's not fair/I break the rules so I don't care/so I keep doing my own thing, walking tall against the rain

Victory's within the mile/almost there don't give up now/only thing that's on my mind/is how we gon run this town tonight"

After trailing by double digits in the first half of their game at Purdue Wednesday night, the Nittany Lions (10-8, 3-4) made a valiant comeback to take the lead a few different times down the stretch, the last coming with under a minute remaining. It survived until the final 3.4 seconds of the game when Purdue's superstar forward JaJuan Johnson calmly knocked down a jumper from the corner, to put Purdue up one with only those precious seconds on the clock. Penn State's final heave was intercepted at halfcourt,and the Lions fell short of their third upset in four chances, 63-62.

Before the final dagger, Penn State thought it had Purdue stopped when a bobble by the Boilermakers' E'Twaun Moore appeared to bounce out of bounds of a Purdue. The ball was called off the Lions' Tim Frazier however, and the Boilers retained posession, setting them up for the last clutch play.

Some would argue the final seconds of Penn State's loss weren't fair, and that the refs blew the call that would have otherwise led to a Penn State win and upset of the nation's No. 13 ranked team.

That's life.

The Lions have already defied the odds to put themselves in the position they're in with 11 games remaining. They may have gotten a few of the lucky bounces to go their way in upsets of then No. 19 Michigan State and then-No. 16 Illinois. Now, against Ohio State and Purdue, they've gone the other way. That's just the way the game of basketball goes sometimes.

Ultimately, Penn State's goal of reaching the NCAA Tournament is still within reach. It might be a long shot, but all these players have ever hoped for was a chance to make a run at March Madness. They'll get that chance in this final month and change of the season. Now is not the time to pack it in. At 10-8, Penn State now needs to make some real hay as it enters an easier portion of its schedule, starting with a home tilt against Iowa next Wednesday, but after losing to Maine at home in December, few thought a 3-4 start to Big Ten play was possible with five games against ranked teams. Who's to say this can't be done?

Star-divide

The Good

  • Penn State responded to being outrebounded by 15 at home against Purdue two weeks ago by working the Boilers by 11 (30-19) on the boards Wednesday night. Many Lion players got in on the act, as Jeff Brooks had eight, Talor Battle had six, David Jackson had five and Andrew Jones had four. It was a great team rebounding effort.
  • The Lions shot 52% for the evening, including 37.5% from the 3-point line, following another good shooting performance against Ohio State. If the Lions keep those numbers up, they're going to win games more often than not.
  • After watching a couple of Purdue's role players go off in the first matchup at the Jordan Center, Penn State did a good job of limiting supplementary scoring in the game. While Johnson and Moore got their points (36 combined points) no other Boilermaker had more than six. It was a step in the right direction, team defense-wise.
  • The scoring distribution for Penn State was again much more reasonable than it had been at points earlier in the conference season. Brooks (19) Battle (14) and Jackson (13) all broke into double figures as usual, but Jones and Frazier stepped up for eight each. That was a big boost.

The Bad

  • The assist-to-turnover ration is one of the best stats in basketball, and it was decidedly against Penn State Wednesday night, 6.0-1.2. A good number to have is about two. The Lions' 13 turnovers weren't damning in and of themselves, but the lack of forced turnovers on the defensive end compounded the problems cause by the sloppiness on offense, allowing the Boilers to get up eight more shot attempts and stave off Penn State for a one point win.
  • The bench registered one shot on the night, scored no points and grabbed no rebounds. Penn State's starting five is pretty good, but not good enough to contend with a team as deep as Purdue for 40 minutes without some help. The bench just didn't get it done.
  • Penn State was perfect (8-8) from the free throw line, but probably should have been there a few more times. Instead, the Lions had to settle for only eight makes from the stripe, probably putting a dent in their upset chances. 

The Ugly

  • The coaching staff has already taken some arrows in some spheres for its call on the final play to chuck the ball to half court and try to advance it from there. Look, with 3.4 seconds, there are no good options. The coaches elected to take a shot at getting the ball as close to the bucket as possible for the highest percentage shot possible. You can't fault them for that. Sure, they could have gone the safe route and spent a couple seconds making sure the ball got in bounds safely, but at that point they're basically conceding to taking a half court heave at the buzzer. Instead, they went for a more reasonable shot. That it didn't work is far more about execution than strategy.
  • A lot of criticism also came in during the game for the staff's decision to play a 2-3 zone, deploying three players to cover the lane while two guarded the perimeter. It's important to keep in mind that Johnson still ended up scoring 25 points on the evening, even with the extra muscle inside. Pulling a defender out of the middle could have done even more harm the way he played Wednesday night. 
  • The last blown call was a real let down, but there was no reason for Johnson to get free off the inbounds on Purdue's final play.

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Great recap

This is why I love BSD, your rational arguments are a rare find on the internet the day after two tough losses for our Lions. But, you are exactly right. Was there a blown call at the end of the game, probably, but you can’t blame the zebras for the loss. We had two difficult games in which it was gut wrenching to see the good guys lose, but it certainly wasn’t taken away from us. If PSU plays good defense for 6 seconds longer last night, the game goes to the Nittany Lions. Here’s hoping they don’t slow down now that the schedule finally looks a little easier. We Are!

I get the paper. I go to the bathroom. I take the paper in there and I scan it. I look at it. The first thing I do is look at who died. All right. Second thing I look at are headlines. Something that says, "Paterno is the Greatest," I read it. -JVP

by wek5000lion09 on Jan 20, 2011 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

Penn State!

"I have my Joe Paterno autograph already, but I don’t know that I’d begrudge anybody else from getting theirs no matter their age. That’s kind of like meeting Winston Churchill." jesse. @ BSD

by bconway6 on Jan 20, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Well done

Also, I love this team.

"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."

by PSUtopia on Jan 20, 2011 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

It's hard to believe

but a 4 point swing in the good guys’ direction and the team is 5-2 in the Big 10. I don’t think anybody could have imagined a situation where the team was that close to that record. Hopefully they can continue this good stretch and start piling up some wins against good but not great competition.

We should be fine, we should be fine, we should be fine…

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2011 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

6-point swing in the other direction

And they’re 1-6. The luck is fairly even at this point.

by elefantstn on Jan 20, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you're definitely not wrong

that’s why I’m not too bitter about the last 2 games, with the exception of the atrocious “out on Tim Frazier” call at the end of the last one.

It’s just that PSU is 4 points away from being 1)in a place where an NCAA tournament bid is theirs to lose, 2)probably a top 25 ranking, 3)being 5-2 in Big Ten play, only .5 games behind an Ohio State team PSU beat on the road for first place and .5 games up on MSU, Illinois, and Purdue teams PSU beat, in the deepest league in college basketball this year.

Conversely, PSU is 6 points away from being 1-6 in conference play and fighting for an NIT bid

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Jan 20, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

My point was just that

after the Maine debacle and the Purdue beatdown, I don’t think anybody would have believed that this team would beat MSU, Illinois, then be 4 points away from beating OSU and Purdue. You do agree with that much, correct?

We should be fine, we should be fine, we should be fine…

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

All I have to say

is that the Big Ten better thank us up and down for dropping the game to Maine. If the selection committee passes us up, the reason will be because of awful Big Ten officiating, but everyone will stop as soon as they view “Maine, L.”

Here’s where I’d usually put in a “Well, unless we run the table in the Big Ten Tournament!” but I’m fairly certain that’s officiated by the Big Ten refs too, so even if we play well enough to win, I’m sure one of those “lucky bounces” that clearly goes off an opponent will roll their way anyway.

And before you all jump on me and tell me, “Well that’s just the way it works in the Big Ten,” yeah, I know. Doesn’t mean I need to like it. Call the game fair, or don’t call it at all.

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Jan 20, 2011 8:45 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

There were only two or three bad calls that went against us in the game.

And the last one wasn’t a bad call until we saw the replay. Even then it was still close. The ref didn’t have the benefit of instant replay.

The refs did a good job last night until the final five seconds. I can excuse them for that. Let us not complain about this one call when we couldn’t stop Johnson and when we got away with many elbows in the post.

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Then the refs should watch the game on TV because it was clear to me live

that that ball went off Purdue… not even a doubt.

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Jan 20, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

And you're the one who says that there's always a home-court bias

All I’m asking for is if there’s a questionable call, that wins the game for a team, call it fairly, and not for the home team by default…

… or more likely, the ranked team that’s going to make the Big Ten look better. In fact, I think we should get Big East or ACC officials to officiate our conference games.

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Jan 20, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not by default, man.

Stop it with the conspiracy stuff.

It has a lot more to do with thousands of fans right in your face than a desire to make the Big Ten look good.

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

All of these from you Rambler
I don’t care what you think if you’re just going to troll like most Ohio State fans. Those calls were calls home teams always get in the Big Ten and I think the conference should consider talking to their refs about this.
 -http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2011/1/15/1937323/penn-state-vs-ohio-state-open-thread#56989804
You may have another chance at OSU.
It’s not bitter to say refs always favor the home team; it’s simple reality. So another close game (Which seems highly possible) could be better at home.-http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2011/1/15/1937323/penn-state-vs-ohio-state-open-thread#56990230
It’s been this way since Knight was a guard at Ohio State.
Home teams get the call. It’s just something you have to get used to because it’s never gonna change as long as we’ve got amateurs.
-http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2011/1/15/1937323/penn-state-vs-ohio-state-open-thread#56990799
That was a pretty crappy call.
I know the home teams always get the call, but, thinking back, that one was probably an extreme. The offensive player initiated basically all of the contact but he didn’t foul. The defender certainly didn’t foul. One of the biggest problems with college refs is that they either call everything in the last minute or call nothing. There’s not enough good crews to go around, so this is what happens in probably half or more close games.
-http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2011/1/15/1937700/penn-state-falls-short-against-ohio-state-69-66#57015350

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Jan 20, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, well, PSU didn't get away with a lot of elbow shivers in that game.

Opinions are allowed to change, aren’t they?

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You're talking to the guy who has never fallen off the Ed DeChellis bandwagon,

but there’s an enormous precedence for the word “always.”

John has a long moustache

by AdamShell on Jan 20, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think the refs were bad

I definitely don’t think they called an unfair game. They blew the last call and probably tacked on a couple of questionable fouls but that’s the game of basketball. It happens at every level. You’ve ultimately gotta make a play with five seconds.

Adam
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by Adam Bittner on Jan 20, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I did notice that Johnson sure didn't get the same benefit of the lead with your shoulder calls that Sullinger got the night before.

Sullinger went to the line every time he was breathed on. Johnson worked hard for his points and the last shot he took was still 19.5 footer with someone running at him. Not a gimmie by any means. He was just really on.

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by BMAN13 on Jan 20, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

He's the best player in the league

Sullinger is a big dude and bullies a lot of guys at this level, but Johnson can do it all.

Adam
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by Adam Bittner on Jan 20, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

If they play well like they have the last 4 games, they can win the next 4

and have some momentum going into East Lansing.

The bench play (or lack thereof) is what is bumming me out right now. We have 4 senior starters. From where we sit right now, can you see how badly we are going to suck next year? OTOH, when you are in these close games, how do you go away from your 4 senior starters? Oh well – let’s just enjoy seeing where this season goes for now.

by IndianaLion on Jan 20, 2011 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Remember

Two 6’11" guys are coming in and a pretty nice SF prospect. You’ve also got Sasa Borovnjak and Jon Graham coming off redshirt, too. It’s going to be a bigger, deeper team next season. It’ll be a lot more inexperienced, but give it a chance.

Adam
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God Created the World Out Of Nothing, Paterno Built A National Superpower On Cow Fields...

by Adam Bittner on Jan 20, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Where was Marshall last night.

I saw Bowman get in but can’t remember Marshall playing.

Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy

by BMAN13 on Jan 20, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Marshall was in for like 15 seconds

when Battle looked to have hurt himself or was at least limping around.

We should be fine, we should be fine, we should be fine…

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if......

I can handle a whole season like this…..hopefully WE start getting some breaks one way or the other and it still won’t be easy in any sense as the only way WE move on is by winning the BTT.

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by DerryPharmer on Jan 20, 2011 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Current RPI = 58

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html

I feel like we’d want to be in the low 40s by the end of the year to get a shot at the tournament though, since so many of the lower seeds go to automatic qualifiers from the tiny conferences.

"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."

by PSUtopia on Jan 20, 2011 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

If we just play the way we've been playing

and can get into the semifinals of the Big Ten Tourney, we’ll dance.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Jan 20, 2011 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

Hats off

Was extremely impressed with your team last night (more finally watching in person instead of seeing the box scores of the wins/close loss to Ohio St).

Now that we won’t play you again in the regular season, please go on and win the rest of your games. This team is good.

by AustinP0027 on Jan 20, 2011 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

Penn State's last 3 losses

2 of which were on the road, came by a combined 19 points to teams who had been ranked in the Sagarin top 5 at some point in the last two weeks.

It’s like last season all over again.

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Jan 20, 2011 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

I think the most optimistic we can hope for is to finish 7-4 (10-8 record) and win some games in the conference tourney. Here are our remaining eleven games:

vs. Iowa
vs. Wisconsin
at Illinois
vs. Michigan
at Michigan State
vs. Northwestern
vs. Minnesota
at Wisconsin
at Northwestern
vs. Ohio State
at Minnesota

Pomeroy has the home games with Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan, and Northwestern as wins, everything else as a loss. I think we can beat NW in Evanston, so that’s 8-10. We were close with Wisconsin, so a win there isn’t impossible. A win at MSU or Illinois wouldn’t be impossible either. A win versus Ohio State would almost lock us in.

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

These next three games are critical.

I think we need to go 3-1, and that one loss simply can’t be against a crap team like Iowa or UM.

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

four games rather

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this

I still think 19 wins after the BTT is the magic mark at which PSU is probably in. That means finishing 7-4 and winning two games in the BTT. Easy? No. Very doable: yes.

7-4 isn’t at all out of reach:
Must wins: Iowa, Michigan, both at home
Must win 3 of 4: the rest of the home games (NW, Minn, OSU, Wisconsin)
Must win at least two: the rest of the road games (there are 5 of them, only one against an unranked team, Northwestern)

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Jan 20, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I look at it like this

Iowa and Michigan are mediocre teams that PSU gets at home. These are games PSU should win. 2 wins

ED owns Northwestern. PSU has won 7 of the last 8 in the series, and the one loss was a very close game at Northwestern. 2 more wins

Then PSU must go 3-4 against a slate that consists of 3 ranked teams at home and 4 ranked teams on the road. PSU is 2-1 against ranked B10 teams at home so far this year, and while PSU is also 0-2 against ranked teams on the road, PSU was tied or leading in the last minute of both of those games.

10-8 probably gets PSU somewhere between a 5 and 7 seed in the BTT. A 6 seed would probably mean playing Iowa followed by MSU or Illinois (love the chances here). A 5 seed would mean playing Wisconsin followed by Ohio State (DO NOT WANT, both of these teams are good and completely own ED). A 7 seed means playing Michigan followed by Purdue (doable, not preferable, PSU is currently 0-3 against these teams even if they could easily be 2-1).

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Jan 20, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Iowa and Michigan are not mediocre, they are crap.

Other than that, I agree with you.

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The computers insist that they are above average

My eyeballs agree with you, but I last I checked, every computer I check had them both well within the 150 mark

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Jan 20, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, my eyes tell me Michigan’s post game is some fat guy who just knocks people down until the freaking refs actually call him for it. Meanwhile, Iowa is a garbage fire. Can the stats take a garbage fire into account.

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

realistically, I expect to win all of them

this team has – dare I say – moxie

"Life is no way to treat an animal"

by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 20, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

It's going to be tough

7-4 the rest of the way with that schedule is going to be brutal. Minnesota is a really good team. And we haven’t been Wisconsin in 12 straight games. The game up there we should have won last year but we are going to need an effort similar to last night’s to beat them.

Even at 10-8, we still would only have a 17-12 record, which just doesn’t look that good. We may still need 2 or 3 wins in the B10 tourney for the NCAAs. I know that PSU has/will play a tough schedule, but once people start looking into the record, they are going to start talking about Maine, the beatdown vs MD, the other lost opportunities in the OOC, etc. We were 10-8 two years ago and also didn’t have any quality OOC wins and didn’t get in.

Maybe that’s why I had a sick feeling after last night’s game because it would have been a HUGE help. It sucks that a missed call that – if it would have went in our favor – would have helped their chances immensely.

by mundyscorner99 on Jan 20, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Minnesota is basically the same team they've been the last three years, if a little bit better.

I think we can grab one from them.

We’ve played the Badgers close in nearly every game we’ve played with them recently. Of course, their system does that to people: you feel close, but you’re often really not. They’re kind of like the old Wisconsin football teams from the late 90s.

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by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

KenPom currently gives us a 33% chance against Wisco at home.

Basically what I expected.

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by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep!

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Iowa – 78%
Wisconsin – 33%
at Illinois – 15%
Michigan – 70%
at Michigan State – 18%
Northwestern – 56%
Minnesota – 60%
at Wisconsin – 12%
at Northwestern – 26%
Ohio State – 16%
at Minnesota – 30%

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That gives PSU

a 37.64% chance, on average, in every game.

Based on that, the odds of PSU finishing:
11-0: .00215%
10-1: .039%
9-2: .324%
8-3: 1.692%
7-4: 5.34%
6-5: 12.39%
5-6: 20.53%
4-7: 24.29%
3-8: 20.12%
2-9: 11.11%
1-10: 3.68%
0-11: .554%

Sorry if there’s some rounding errors in there, but yeah. Chances of going 7-4 or better down the stretch: about 2 in 27. Not promising

Granted, I think PSU’s chances of beating Northwestern twice are waaay better than 14.6%, but whatever.

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Jan 20, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Assuming wins over Northwestern, Iowa, and Michigan

which amounts to “win the games you should win,” PSU would have to go 3-4 in the remaining 7 games to get to 7-4. The odds then:

11-0: .00867%
10-1: .49%
9-2: 3.156%
8-3: 11.3%
7-4: 24.3%
6-5: 31.35%
5-4: 22.46%
4-7: 6.9%

Immediately the odds of getting to at least 17 wins pre-Big Ten Tournament go from about 2 in 27 to about 2 in 5.

The most frustrating thing about these numbers? PSU was one bad call from winning last night. If PSU had won last night and would “win the games they should win” down the stretch, PSU’s odds of getting to 17 wins before the Big Ten Tournament goes to about 70%. That hurts.

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Jan 20, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, it's all about what I figured.

At this point, I’m just happy they’re fighting.

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheers and Jeers

Cheer: Great recap
-I’m proud of how hard these guys are playing, the rebounding and foul shooting have been pretty great.
-Good coaching game plan to keep them in the game
Jeer: WTF happened at the end of these two games? Awful sideline coaching in my opinion (or maybe good defense?). They got only an awful shot attempt at the end of tOSU game and couldn’t even get the ball inbounds at the end of the Purdue game. That is weak.

by emccomb1 on Jan 20, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

I was fine with the final play last night

In trying to get the ball to half-court. But I agree with you on the OSU final play. Jacking a 3 (while down 3) after burning clock unnecessarily (could we have gotten a quick 2 and foul?) was pretty bad.

"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."

by PSUtopia on Jan 20, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

last play?!

you gotta at least give yourself a shot, 3+ seconds is plenty of time to guarantee a shot from inside your own half.

a lot better option than trying to huck the ball 40 feet and hoping….thats a play for when there’s less than 1.5 seconds left.

to chalk it up to execution is poor. that play succeeds maybe 20% of the time, because even if the execution is good you need purdue to fall for it. at least give your team an actual possession to win.

3.4 seconds is a lot of time!!! stupid ed dechellis

by 424E. on Jan 20, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

A lot of people just sound like they're grasping for straws with the complaints about the last play.

I know Ed DeChellis is a total moron, but that total moron coached an excellent game against one of the best young coaches out there.

"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer

by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The play last night was terrible.

IF you want to throw it towards the end of the court, you have to have someone down at the inbounder that is a decoy. Someone looking to get the ball, Frazier was there, but he was screening the guy defending the throw in. Purdue saw he wasn’t a factor and knew the only other option was a heave-easy turnover.

I would have liked to see Frazier screen battle and have battle turn and run up the right side of the court, if hes open hit it, if not throw a long pass to the left side of the court off a screen. With this play you would have a chance to have them looking for battle, loose focus on the man and then get it up the court on a heave, have a few seconds and battle running full speed towards the basket.

In my opinion it was foolish to think that play would work without any decoy, but just throwing it deep. And clearly the play was not close to working.

by bigs26 on Jan 20, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the recap

I’m stoked to see that the team is making games exciting, and hopefully that translates to more interest in the BBall program and more fans at BJC.

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by NJ lion on Jan 20, 2011 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

Nice.

Only one bullet in the Ugly section was our fault!

by BurrowesBldg on Jan 20, 2011 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

So, where are people on the Fire ED spectrum now?

That Maine loss was the last straw for many (myself included), but now the team is actually playing at a respectable level (and much better than we usually expect from the Cagers), so have people begun to forgive the Maine loss and treat it as an aberration, or is the general consensus that it is still time for him to pack it in after the season (barring an NCAA tourney appearance)?

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 20, 2011 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

Again

If it’s been said once it’s been said a million times. If you fire Ed, you have to replace him, and there’s no indication the athletic department is willing to pay the going rate for legitimate coaching prospects these days. Penn State has he cash to pay Brad Stevens tomorrow if it wants to, but if it was going to do something like that, Ed would never have lasted this long. If and when he’s fired, you’re probably looking at someone already on the staff or another schmo from a mid-major as your head coach. Is that something that gets you excited?

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by Adam Bittner on Jan 20, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally, I feel like an outside observer to this whole thing.

I love Penn State, but I only like the basketball team. I obviously want to see them win, and I try to watch as many games as I can, but I would definitely classify myself as a bandwagon fan when it comes to them.

I don’t really know how one should handle this situation (though I was curious about others’ opinions). I’m not saying that we should go out and pay big money for a new coach, but sometimes when you are at the bottom, there’s only one direction you can really go, and you need some change just to breathe new life into the team. As of right now the team seems to be playing with plenty of fire, but right after that Maine game the mood was quite different.

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 20, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It seems like the AD and school administration just don’t care enough about the bball program to spend a ton of $$ on a big time coach. I have to believe they are content w/ the “success” they’ve seen from the program to not be looking for a coaching change. Esp. when you see what’s happened with the wrestling and women’s bball teams.

Disclaimer: I hardly ever follow college bball (incl. PSU), but I do know we’ve been middle or bottom of the Big 10 for about forever.

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by NJ lion on Jan 20, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

right, but the argument could be made

that you could go out and get someone else in ED’s price range who couldn’t really do any worse (the prevailing thought after the Maine loss), and could potentially do better (though not many teams could be playing much better than the Lions the past few games)

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 20, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm off the Fire Ed bandwagon and back where I should have been all along:

It doesn’t matter, so I won’t complain because Penn State won’t fire him and Ed is a good guy if not a very good coach.

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by ReadingRambler on Jan 20, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

My original benchmark

was that the team had to make the NCAAs to justify keeping him. After the loss to Maine, it seemed that was impossible, so I jumped on the fire Ed bandwagon, and that was perhaps premature. So I’m still looking at it as they have to make the big dance or it’s time for a change. No more “we’re making noise in the NIT” crap.

by PSU Mudder on Jan 20, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially this year.

Its his year, 4 seniors, including one of the best players in PSU Basketball history… If he doesn’t make the tournament this year, I’m not sure he will.
Plus if he comes back, we are rebuilding, so its a decision where if we keep him, it won’t be a “do ____ next season or else” year, but he will be in it for the long haul

by bigs26 on Jan 20, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Final seconds

Lest we forget . . . we had a very poor start last night. Battling back from a 14 point deficit definitely deserves some kudos, but had we done the same thing only “battling back” from a 7 point deficit, and the out of bounds call is a non-issue.
Granted, Purdue had a streak there where it didn’t seem like they could miss . . . wasn’t exactly lousy defense or anything, but we did have a couple of turnovers that made me go “ouch” during that stretch. But as was accurately pointed out, that’s life . . . that’s basketball. Those guys hung in there and really showed some guts. Gotta hand it to them.

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by nitwit86 on Jan 20, 2011 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

Good recap.

My only nit-pick with coaching was letting Purdue just walk the ball up the court after David Jackson’s three that gave them lead. Why not at least some 3/4 court pressure there and force them to be hasty?

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by Joe 96alum on Jan 20, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

Hell of a game last night

I was there and from my seats it looked like hte ball was off of Moore, honestly.

Please wreck havoc int he rest of the Big Ten now. I am very glad to be past both Penn State games.

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by BoilerTMill on Jan 20, 2011 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

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