Nitt Picks Is Bolstering The Lines
by Adam Bittner on Jan 25, 2011 12:54 PM EST
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PrintESPN.com's Adam Rittenberg recently wrote about the biggest needs of everyone in the Leaders Division and, no surprise here, his focus as far as Penn State is concerned is on the lines.
Offensive line: The Lions began addressing this need with last year's class and will continue to do so with the 2011 crop. Getting the offensive line in order is the biggest key to Penn State reclaiming a place among the Big Ten title contenders. Penn State loses standout guard Stefen Wisniewski and will have more departures after the 2011 season, so building depth is paramount.
Defensive line: Penn State lacked a dynamic pass rusher in 2010 and could bolster the end spot, but it can't neglect the defensive tackle position, either. Ollie Ogbu departs and Devon Still will be gone after the 2011 season. Although Jack Crawford returns at end, the depth there could be enhanced through recruiting.
Eight of Penn State's 15 recruits are either offensive or defensive linemen. For a small class, you'd have to say the coaches have done a pretty good job of addressing both areas for the most part. Despite the hysterics over the quarterback position, Penn State is pretty well set at the skill spots on offense. The secondary should be very good in 2011 and the young linebackers another year along in their progression. If the lines can get better, the ceiling for Penn State might be a lot higher than most people seem to think at the moment.
Post-Gazette On Recruiting
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Ron Musselman recently took a look at Penn State's improved recruiting class and talked to a recruiting analyst about it.
With its recent surge, Penn State sits at No. 34 in Scout.com's 2011 recruiting rankings, with two top-100 players, six four-star recruits and seven three-stars.
Rivals.com has the Lions at No. 35 nationally, with one top-100 player, five four-star prospects and seven three-stars.
"Penn State is really starting to come on and things don't look so bleak now," said national recruiting expert Tom Lemming of CBS College Sports and MaxPreps.com. "It's still not a great recruiting year, but it is much better than it looked during the season."
The class is still a long way from getting people excited a week before signing day, but at the very least, it looks like the staff has avoided the unmitigated disaster many feared heading into the holidays. There are some pretty good prospects in the class now, or so the recruiting experts say, so things are looking up.
Signing day is coming up soon, by the way, so stay tuned to see how everything shakes out.
Free Time
The Daily Collegian's Emily Kaplan caught up with the men's basketball team yesterday to talk about the team's time off since the Purdue game. Many welcomed the respite, but one is ready to get back after it.
For senior Talor Battle, the time off actually had the opposite effect. Battle said if it were up to him, "weeks off between games would not exist."
The senior said the loss to the Boilermakers is still stinging in his mind, and all he wants to do is get back on the court and erase that memory.
"It definitely was a break, but it actually kind of stinks," Battle said. "You lose a heartbreaker and then you have the whole week to think about it, so I’m anxious to just get back out there in a game. I just want to play."
The Lions will need that fire if they're going to win both games on this home stand. The Iowa team the Lions will face Wednesday night is coming off a win over Indiana and has finally tasted a little success. The Hawkeyes would like nothing more than to hand Penn State another embarrassing and perhaps NCAA Tournament crushing loss as they did late in 2008-2009. Then, of course, Wisconsin comes to town, a team that has owned the Lions in recent years. The Badgers are ranked No. 15 and would represent Penn State's biggest upset yet if the Lions can pull off the win. And just in case you needed something else to get pumped.
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Nice Video.
Certainly nicer than recent video posts of Indiana & Ohio State hoops.
"a Pride of Lions that is Penn State football. All of us - players, coaches, students, alumni & fans - are in the Pride. And once in, you never get out." - Jay Paterno
Now that the names Leaders and Legends are actually being used,
I am starting to hate them even more. What happened to the Big 10 supposedly reconsidering them? Was that just a PR move to quiet all the people complaining?
Correct; it was all just a PR move to quiet people.
Delany is a bigwig from the BCS. Never forget this.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Letting what breathe, his underwear?
"I’ll drink through the weirdness." - Illegal Formation
by leeharvey418 on Jan 25, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
the 8yo children he had in the basement brainstorming the name ideas
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
by jtothep on Jan 25, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I edited out 'Chinese' children as unneccessary
Glad it resonated without it….
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
They will never change,
and, in turn, announcers and journalists will pretty much have no choice but to use them. Resistance to the Big 1G is futile.
Dear Big Ten, nothing about your boring landscape, plain women, or two national championships in 40 years is legendary.
by Illegal Formation on Jan 25, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
I've always questioned why this was
(self-answer…:) I can see announcers, as employees of the network who has bought the tv rights and is, as such, a business partner of the league, being told top-down, use it or join Harold Reynolds. Unless you’re a blowhard like Berman and get away with using old hockey division names for football.
But journalists don’t have the same obligation, right? I feel like some continue to call stuff whatever they like, but can’t recall examples.
Similarly, but different, how are players able to insist that journalists or announcers pronounce or use the names they want used? Like when a dude who grows up Dickie decides he wants to now be called Dick; how does he go about that? It’s easy enough in blogistan to avoid acquiescing to preposterous nicknames (Dan Herron won’t likely convince me to call him ‘boom’), but maybe not so much in the announcer booth or on the newspaper beat? I suppose there’s always a danger of ending up like Ernie Terrell.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
I remember Vick did that at some point.
Announcers slowly fading into calling him “Mike Vick” for some reason, even though he had gone by his full name basically forever. I think it was in a post-game interview where he basically said, “Listen, my mother named me Michael, not Mike.”
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the Yo Mama Named You That defense only works if it's you saying it about yourself
Muhammad taught us you don’t try it going the other way. Unless you’re interested in making a few bucks off pictures of your failed efforts.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
But as a journalist, you do have an obligation to report accurately. That’s the official name of the divisions (or the player, or whatever) so that’s what you go with. The exception should be Chad Johnson. I’d rather be fired from my job than refer to him as Chad you-know-what.
I don’t know about nicknames though. It’s the same question with Joe Theisman changing pronunciation of his name. How do you do that?
Dear Big Ten, nothing about your boring landscape, plain women, or two national championships in 40 years is legendary.
by Illegal Formation on Jan 25, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Tony dorSETT was Tony DORsit at Pitt.
ETT happens.
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Jan 25, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
dammit, man!
As soon as I saw your name pop up, I thought, jfb’s gonna jinx me….
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
This was the first change of pronunciation of a name I remember
and made me dislike him even more. Different than Ahmad Rishad, Ali and Kareem completely changing their names. What I don’t understand is why no one at Pitt ever pronounced TD’s name properly. What, he didn’t know it was wrong back then????
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
I thought that was just due to the Pittsburgh accent, e.g.,
STILLERS versus STEELERS.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
by Paige2PSU on Jan 25, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Second for me.
First was when ND changed the pronunciation of Theisman to rhyme with Heisman. Before that it was “Theez-mun”.
Yeah, and Tony DORsett
Not pre-madonna enough, so he went with dorSETT. Freakin sPitters.
I don’t know about your first sentence, tho. Either what ‘journalist’ or ‘obligation’ mean or how true the obligation is based on how tight the journalist definition is. What are the real deterrents out there to that journalist deciding on a name for divisions that makes much more sense or is more appealing and just saying ‘you know what? I’m gonna use this from now on.’
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
I've heard that DorSETT story since I was a kid.
I heard it from my Mom, who heard it from my grandfather who ranted angrily about it.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
My mom somehow managed to get us ranting about it
Without ever doing more than conveying the story.
Gawd we hated Pitt as little kids.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
Moms are good for Teaching the Hate
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
I remember it bugging me as a kid (that he changed the pronunciation).
But now, in his defense, he was a painfully shy kid at first. He came very close to quitting school and going back home (all the way to Aliquippa…25 miles away!) his freshman year due to homesickness. So maybe it always was Dor-SETT and not DOR-sit, but he was just too insecure to speak up about it.
As I said before I roomed with his brother for 6 days when I was in the hospital 10 years ago. His brother was a nice guy (but sadly quite sick and in severe pain). The family came to see him every day and they were very nice people. Tony never came (he does not live around here anymore though), but he did send some nice flowers.
Bottom line is I like the Dorsetts no matter how the name is pronounced.
Chad was so hurt by this comment,
he decided to change his name back.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 25, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Wow.
Timely.
Dear Big Ten, nothing about your boring landscape, plain women, or two national championships in 40 years is legendary.
by Illegal Formation on Jan 25, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Incredibly so.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
He wants attention so bad. He's like a little dog.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
My boss's daughter worked with the production crew for hard knocks, Bengals
She said Chad (whatever he wants to call himself) was the nicest guy off the field, off the camera that she has met that is a professional athlete. He has got her tickets to events and still stays in touch and no to what some of you are thinking. He was just very nice. It made me, a Bengal fan, actually change a tad the way I think about him and the pre-madonna attitude he likes to show the media.
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
You could tell in Hard Knocks
He’s harmless, he’s just a child who likes having fun. He didn’t seem at all to be a serious problem, just someone everyone laughed at.
There's the 1AA/FCS
Most still call it 1AA
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
does anyone else have the issue
Whereby every time there are two articles, one for “legends” and one for “leaders” (i.e., Rittenberg’s articles linked above) I find I have to open both up, even though I only want to read about Penn State, because I never remember which division we’re in??
Hopefully this will change with time but right now it’s just Ficken annoying.
Fire Dan Snyder
I have the same trouble, and I'm 75% sure we're in "Leaders"
but I kind of wish we were in “Legends” just for the whole Deon Butler pump up video speech: “We are not normal, we are LEGENDS, people will tell their kids about us…”
I love that video. I’m going to go watch it right now.
I can't watch it now, I'll get too depressed that it's only January and I have to wait 8 months til the new season.
But only 3 months til blue white! yay!
Fire Dan Snyder
That's WHY you should watch it
If you’re not immediately fired up and ready to go to war for Deon, then the volume on your computer isn’t up high enough. Just imagine Deon is leading you into the offseason.
Join Him.
I'd totally follow that dude anywhere
devastation he broke his leg, he seems like such a good guy he deserves all kinds of success.
Fire Dan Snyder
I don't think surgeons can do this yet
but if Deon gave me that speech and asked me to donate my leg to him for transplant, I’d totally give it to him. You can NOT say no to that intensity.
“You gonna let my leg flip us off?? F**K ME? NO F**K YOU broken legs! Penn State on 3…”
Don't think so.
Unless someone wants to offer me a scholarship.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
If I get money back this year, then probably.
Want to room together?
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
I will at the very least write a FanPost
I have to think about giving up my anonymity before I decide on photographic documentation of any kind.
But I don’t think we’ll spend much time standing around with cameras, we will be working!
I hope Joe drops by.
Mauti Matters
I'm turning 30 this year
And I started working on my parents last year that the camp would be an excellent birthday present ;)
Fire Dan Snyder
Wait, you're a BSDiva too?
Or are you cleverly scheming to get in on the ladies camp, something like this but in reverse?
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
The ending was good.
When she “proved” she was a girl.
we are opposite what we are.
JoePa is a legend, so we are in the leader division. That is how I remember…..
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
The trick:
“Legends” is for teams that were good one time (Michigan, Nebraska)
“Leaders” is for teams that have been good for a while (I didn’t say elite).
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
So, about recruiting......
Apparently we’re now recruiting a running back from Clark’s old high school in Youngstown because his test scores went up. Nebraska and PSU were on him first, and we’ve actually offered while Nebraska is waiting until he takes an official visit. When asked by a reporter what he likes about Penn State, he replies….
…..wait for it….
…..no, seriously, this is awesome…..
…..keep waiting….
“I really like Jay Paterno.”
UNPOSSIBLE!
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 2:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
HE'S A LIAR! JOEPA IS OFFERING A SCHOLARSHIP TO A COMPULSIVE LIAR!
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
"I really like Jay Paterno."
I think a little bit of the internet just blew up with that quote.
Is this for 2011 or 2012?
Selling my Big Ten Championship rings since 2005....
@ArtieFufkin10
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 25, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
And the truth shall set you free.
I had a dream……..
that one day,
little Nit boys
and little Pitt girls
would walk hand in hand…
with JayPa as head coach….
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Jan 25, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I believe this is one of the first signs of the apocalypse
All the Verizon cell phones in my area went out for a while yesterday. I think Skynet is cutting communication lines and spreading rumors on the internet to send people into a panic.
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
Holy $hit, is it Mr. Ohio?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puxamlxnt2g
found this link trolling the Hate Board and seemed to line up with what you said.
I thought Belton would make a great KR, but I think this kid could be better. He would also be one hell of a corner back with his speed. OFFER HIM. DO IT. DO IT NOW!
Selling my Big Ten Championship rings since 2005....
@ArtieFufkin10
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 25, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. Kid could play a few different positions, from the sounds of it.
2 stars on Rivals, 3 on Scout. Was behind a pretty talented high school back who ended up at Youngstown State last year. Made his senior year count.
My initial reaction is that he’s a bit small to play tailback at the next level, but keep in mind that Mike Hart was about the same size coming out of high school.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Cool, does he definitely have an offer?
Selling my Big Ten Championship rings since 2005....
@ArtieFufkin10
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 25, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
From the sounds of it, yes.
I’m not getting my hopes up, if for no other reason than the fact that the kid is committed to Cincinnati already. I know it’s just Cincinnati, but once a kid makes a commitment it shows that he’s considered spending several years there. Hard to pry someone away like that.
He’s basically deciding whether to visit Nebraska or PSU. If he visits us, I think we’re better than 50/50 based on facilities and reputation alone. But we have to get him here first, and that could be tougher.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
But if we said, "We'll wait for your test scores"
I could see a kid switching from a school like Cinci to us if he really wanted to go to Penn State now that those scores have improved.
Last time I remember that we told a kid he was too small to play in college
He was Noel Devine. That was a whiff.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
I don't think we ever went after Devine due to "other" issues
It was Hart who Joe readily admits he was wrong about.
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
I agree.
Devine was a mess coming out of high school. A lot of it wasn’t his fault, but I never heard that PSU told him he was too small. I think you’re right and PSU just shied away from him.
I’m almost positive he was the top running back recruit in the country so I HIGHLY doubt PSU deemed him to be too small.
To his credit he’s not only had a very good career at WVU, but he appears to have kept his nose pretty clean and been a good college kid.
He had so many personal issues coming out of high school.
He’s a credit to kids who figure out how to become men at the college level. Congrats to him.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 26, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
There was also the matter
of his, uh, mentor representation
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
Also, Steve Slaton.
I don’t know if Joe ever admitted it, but every team recruiting him wanted him as a DB and told him he would never be a running back. Except West Virginia.
Now he plays in the NFL….as a running back.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 26, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, outside of his first season, he hasn't been very good
Got fumblitis and lost his job to the mighty Arian Foster
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Yes, but he was lights out in college.
And that’s all I really care about when it comes to PSU football players. So had he come to PSU and had the career he had at WVU I’d have been very pleased.
Eh, he made it there. Plus, Foster's really good.
And, as stated below, he was incredible as a college player.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 26, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and Belton's going to be disgusting on returns.
I’m serious about my comment from that last thread. That move he made within the first minute of that video showed unbelieveable lateral quickness. Very nimble.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
As good as Tim Dwight?
I think not.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
(runs screaming from the room)
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I really like Jay Paterno
and wouldn’t mind if he was our next head coach, though I have a few guys in front of him on my list.
I don’t understand why people still hate him… he’s a very good coach, recruiter… dude handles the media like a pro, good family man, true Penn Stater, and seems to have a very good feel of the team. While I don’t think he’s going to coach at Penn State for the rest of his life, I wouldn’t hate it if he was given a shot with the program.
Can we still be friends everybody? (seriously considered posting this under an alt)
John has a long moustache
You should have posted it under a 3 letter, 3 number name
and set the internets on fire.
Personally, I don’t think he’s ready for a HC job at anywhere except a MAC school or something of the like. I’m not sure how good of a recruiter he really is, but I do think he’s a better coach than a lot of people give him credit for. I’d definitely need to see more from him though before I would be comfortable with him being the HC at Penn State.
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
agree across the board.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
I have come around to liking Jay, too
but he doesn’t have a very good track record as a recruiter.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jan 25, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
The biggest negative I’ve heard about Jay is how he’s (allegedly) tended to drop the ball quite a bit with recruiting – not calling recruits back in a timely fashion, not keeping in contact with verbals, not getting offers out in a prompt manner, that sort of thing. I’m no insider and I only hear this stuff third hand, so I don’t know how much of it is true or how much is anti-Paterno agenda. But if it’s valid, it would be a source of concern.
The thing with Jay is....
he needs to make more of a name from himself outside of PSU before he could even be mentioned as a possible coach for a BCS school.
I agree with your assessment of his personal characteristics, but right or wrong, that just simply isn’t enough for a lot of people.
I think he is doing fine right now, but as far as recruiting goes, he’s not set up for success in Ohio and faces a constant up hill battle there.
Selling my Big Ten Championship rings since 2005....
@ArtieFufkin10
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 25, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair though
Is ANYONE on our staff set up for success in Ohio? Even if Joe himself was recruiting Ohio, I still think it would be an uphill battle with most of the top recruits there.
Almost a +1
For ‘Even if Joe himself…’; woulda made it if Himself was capitalized.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
He's definitely not a very good recruiter.
He’s probably OK, but his geographic region hasn’t been very good to us recently. He’s developed into a fine QB coach, but I wouldn’t call him one of the top in his field. He’s a very good marketer, though, and that’s helpful.
He’s not ready to be a head coach. I’d like to see him actually be an offensive coordinator before that, because it comes with a lot of responsibility. Right now, if the offense isn’t performing it’s very easy to put the blame on Galen Hall. I’d like to see him have more on his shoulders before he’s a head coach at a BCS level. Plus, replacing his father with him would be an unmitigated disaster assuming that he didn’t perform as well.
If he does want to be the guy here, let him go somewhere else and earn his stripes working for a non-family member. Then let him come back and take the reins in 10 years or so.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I'd like to see him at OC too
I’m no Galen Hall fan, but Jay did think up the spread HD and to me, that would show that he’s at least mildly competent as an OC
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 25, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
I love how he coined that term.
People on message boards were killing him at the time and thought it was incredbily stupid. “That doesn’t even make sense!”
Whatever, it worked. It was perfect marketing. Our offense was money that year and we had all sorts of weapons. Plus, despite the lack of a running QB in 2009 and the lack of any good QB in 2010 :::ducks:::, the label has lasted. It’s a great recruiting tool for us.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't internetting back on 05', but even the first time I heard that I thought it was ingenious
It sounds cool, it isn’t what you’d expect
it’s just great to me
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 25, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
I just hoped it wasn't a huge dud.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
i'll give Jay credit for coining the phrase "spread HD"
but I give Galen 100% of the credit for creating, implementing, and executing said offense
This feels telling
Beach, what is your take on the split play-calling duties, Jay calls runs, Galen calls passes? Is that actually the way it is, do you think? And if so, is there anyway to react to that beside dubya tee eff?
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
didn't they do that with Anderson and Ganter?
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
I've typed my opinions on this before
I think it stinks.
There is no way you can have the fluidity necessary on offense when you add an extra step deciding on who is gonna call what play
sorry for the repetition
Not sure where my memory went on that one, but thanks for indulging me.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
I agree.
and calling a game has to be like playing chess where you are at least 4 or 5 moves ahead. I understand the script plays are to see how the other team is reacting to certain formations/plays but I still think there would have to be a disconnect in flow when the top dog looks at the other guy and says “go ahead and pass”
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
Plus the fact that it takes the coin a while to stop flipping
"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"
by NJ lion on Jan 26, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think my dream scenario
would be for Joe to stop coaching around 2015 or 2016 with LJ Sr. taking over as head coach, Vanderlinden at DC, and McQueary at OC, but I wouldn’t mind if Jay got that job.
John has a long moustache
My problem with Jay...
is that I truly have no idea what he does and what Hall does re play calling, game planning, etc. He seems to be pretty good a developing a QB, but outside that, what?
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 25, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
everything that is good with the offense is Big Red or Galen.
Everything that is bad is Jay.
(or so says the drunk guy who spilled beer on me at FedEx during the Indiana game)
Fire Dan Snyder
LOL
that is sooo stereotypical of the anti Joe/Jay crowd and it makes me laugh. I don’t know the guy and won’t dis him but he should get some other non=PSU experience as a head coach before coming back here. I wouldn’t freak out if he got it but I think there are many more qualified. I also think he has done a very good job the last 7 years developing QB’s and trying to fit the passing game into their capabiities, something other coaches that are considered geniuses don’t do. Tweak it to fit what you have, he has done that.
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
To be completely honest, this doesn't really surprise me
The couple times I’ve met him, he’s an extremely nice person. Very approachable, easy to talk to, and a very caring person (he does quite a few benefits for all sorts of charities, including events for THON).
I think he gets criticized way too hard just because he’s Joe’s son and everyone somehow expects him to be every ounce of the coach his father is, whereas the truth is that there will never be another coach like Joe, EVER. I’m sure you’re probably joking, but like I said, after meeting the guy a few times, it doesn’t surprise me that a recruit likes the guy.
It doesn't surprise me at all.
I find Jay very likable. I’m just amused when people despise him so much without any real justification. He takes heat in completely disproportionate amounts compared to the rest of the staff.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
So let me get this straight
a recruiting class that we knew would small and hindered by the number of scholarships we had available has now been “salvaged” from being an “unmitigated disaster?” We filled every need we had, we have crazy depth, we got some AWESOME guys and we’re still complaining about this recruiting class?
John has a long moustache
Honestly, I would like to see a top DB in this class (Countess?) but other than that, this recruiting class has seemed to be perfectly fine to me.
Pullium?
isn’t he supposed to be pretty good, 4 * last year.
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
How can you cite that cat and not use that golden name?
SHYQUAWN, ftw! I’m pulling for him and DaQuan to play well enough to get the Coin at the next level.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
I love some of the names
my older grandson’s two best friends are Taishawn and Shaquan, brothers. Everyone just calls my grandson Z because his name is Zametrious.
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
I really Barham doesn't start at Left Tackle next year....
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 25, 2011 4:02 PM EST reply actions
He probably won't.
He performed well at LT this year – above reasonable expectations, I think – so he’ll surely be asked to switch to another position.
Dear Big Ten, nothing about your boring landscape, plain women, or two national championships in 40 years is legendary.
by Illegal Formation on Jan 25, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He didn't perform well vs the Big Name ends
Clayborn had a field day, we couldn’t run it to the left vs Trattou, Heyward blew him up every run play, nobody on the OL did well vs Illinois, Adrian Robinson registered considerable pressure…..
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 25, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
But he's the blindside tackle
Pass protection is more of a priority than run blocking, and I think the left side was excellent this season in that regard. Is he better than Adrian Clayborn or Heyward? No, but I don’t think anyone expected that. This was a kid who had been a right guard the season prior. He did well on the whole, and definitely better than anticipated.
Dear Big Ten, nothing about your boring landscape, plain women, or two national championships in 40 years is legendary.
by Illegal Formation on Jan 25, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Better than anticipated? Yes
But he’s a stumpy LT. That hurts (badly). And if he was playing right guard (And RG coming out of HS) then there’s probably a reason why he was.
And vs the only true pass rushers he faced in Clayborn and Robinson, he got beat (2 1/2 sacks overall). I’m not going to argue run blocking is more important, because it isn’t, but it would be nice to have the left outside of the line open.
He’s not a bad back up, but, that’s where I’d want him
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 25, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
If your 2.5 sacks number is correct,
then that seems pretty good. You’ve been watching too much of The Blind Side.
Dear Big Ten, nothing about your boring landscape, plain women, or two national championships in 40 years is legendary.
by Illegal Formation on Jan 25, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Vs two DE's?
That’s not good, I don’t want my LT giving more than a sack a game vs the best ends he’ll face.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 25, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Oh goody, a Line Junky
No, the football kind.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
Dude.
Heyward blew everyone up on most run plays. He stalemated Wisconsin; they ran around him.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
And he's so articulate!
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
Oh, shove it, you cad.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
That's true
it’s not changing that it’s a negative, but that is true
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 25, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Easy +1
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
What ever happened to Shrive?
Isn’t it about time that he starts to perform?
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Jan 25, 2011 4:23 PM EST reply actions
He’s not there yet. We gotta teach him to do a couple things before he’s a good ballplaya.
Dear Big Ten, nothing about your boring landscape, plain women, or two national championships in 40 years is legendary.
by Illegal Formation on Jan 25, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
WHATS TAKING SO LONG?
j/k
Selling my Big Ten Championship rings since 2005....
@ArtieFufkin10
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 25, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't Joe say
that shrive was one year away last pre season practice?
I’m a Farrell guy personally
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 25, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Farrell and Urschel saw the field this year
In the Indy game, when Okoli, Pannell and I think Ogbu and Still were all late for the bus. Farrel started at RT, then Klopacz went down with an injury (ankle?). They moved Wiz over to snap and brought in Urschel at RG.
I’m super-curious, tho, what it will take for these backups like these two and Shrive to bump Barham, Okoli or Pannell even. Then you add in Troutman’s annual doghousing for some petty arse shite, and bam! Another season of Oline fustercluck.
Could they still end up being really good? Sure.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
Farrell looked good at RT too
The whole line was supposed to be open after the Minny game, and yeah the guys kept their jobs but the backups were supposed to be breathing down some of the guys necks
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 25, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
As much as Klopacz infuriated me
(Still have nightmares of Jack Ham going ‘ohhh, God’ on the air when he whiffed during a 3man Illinois rush), the coaches were persistent in not burning any of the backup Centers’ eligibility. Let’s hope it pays off.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
Is Jack awesome or what?
I especially love it when he calls PSU “we” several times and then says something like, “Oh, I’m not supposed to do that.”
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I gotta figure something out next season
To alleviate the sync issues. Listening to internet radio Jack, watching HD cable video, and following twitterthreads is too much. Hmmm, Jack v Twitter. I wonder where I’ll end up with that one?
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
We need to delay the radio, correct?
I have a few months and a test game (ISU) to try something…. Wonder if I could practice on basketball broadcasts vs BTN TV
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
Correct.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 26, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
11th commandment: Thou shalt presume the PSU offensive line to be frustrating until proven otherwise.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of...
Where the hell has Eric Watters, Atlanta, GA been?
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
Fisticuffs match with jessedot?
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Actually I think it's a rassling match.
And I’ve got the dot in a fall.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
He'll be a RS Soph next year
If he gets significant playing time next year, he’ll still be well ahead of the curve.
Also, I am looking forward to Alex Kenney getting some playing time.
He’s 6’ 190, and is as fast as the little guy, Devon S.
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Jan 25, 2011 4:28 PM EST reply actions
So guys...WHAT THE HECK is going on at Iowa??
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/22832/twelve-iowa-players-hospitalized
Also, because you guys are the only people who feel my pain about this, my head exploded again from another one of Devon’s tweets. I have such a hard time wrapping my head around how someone could be so ignorant.
http://twitter.com/#!/Devon2012/status/30004024795209728
I'd really like to support you and help you through your pain
But that cat gets nothing from me cept unsubscribes and ignores. I’m really hoping it will catch on more. I have a hard time wrapping my head around how much press some of the losers continue to get. Too many good guys still out there to talk about!
As for Iowa, I hope they get well soon and really hope it doesn’t spread to the wrestling team ;)
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
have they said why they were hospitalized yet?!
As for Devon, I unfollowed him but he’s still on my PSU list, so he still shows up in that column which is useful since so many other PSU bloggers tweet back and forth with him all the time. Plus I like to know when people are taking shots as my husband.
Fair enough
I would like to be apprised, tho, whenever you think Mike gets close to punching him in the face. I’d tune in to that.
Ross says Scurvy, Jacobi says Kidney problems. http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2011/1/25/1956006/newz-12-iowa-football-players-in-hospital-with-undisclosed-illness#comments
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
fortunately Mike is not especially prone to violence
although I’ve seen him get close to punching someone a couple times. Once was an older guy sitting in front of us in the student section taking issue with Mike standing on his seat. Once was an ex-boyfriend of mine…of sorts. I already mentioned that in another thread somewhere.
Mike is always saying things that remind me he has years more experience than certain punk kids and they aren’t worth his trouble.
See Rambler?
Mike is always saying things that remind me he has years more experience than certain punk kids
Elder Statesman, right there! Dude’s an Old Soul. Like this dude Marty from one of my favorite movies:
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
Kidney problems?
Kidney problems? First knees, now anything that starts with a K?
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Some comic relief...
Kidney stones?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3ITjqLSAZY
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
here is an update
they are all fine, apparently
The players were admitted to the University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics (UIHC) on Monday night with exertional rhabdomyolysis, which is an acute breakdown of the muscle that leads to the release of damaged muscle cells into the bloodstream, the Cedar Rapids Gazette reported.
The condition, which can come about as a result of excessive exercise, can cause kidney damage and, in serious cases, permanent kidney failure.
Mauti Matters
With a name like exertional rhabdomyolysis
you really need to be bleeding from your hair follicles and spontaneously grow a tail or something, it just sounds like it should cause that.
But, glad they’re alright.
I actually had that (I'm pretty sure).
It was a really weird thing. I didn’t feel bad, I just didn’t feel right. I just felt blah. And I had very little strength. I started retaining water (which was what led me to going to the doctor) – that was because my kidneys were shutting down.
Actually, I was never officially diagnosed with it, but I had pretty much of the symptoms. The cause was never officially diagnosed either, but we’re (me and the doctor) are pretty sure it was from taking Lamisil at the same time I was taking ibuprofen. It all started when I started taking the Lamisil and abated when I stopped taking it.
Here’s another bizarre side to that story. It was 7.5 years ago that happened. I had had a bad thumbnail for years and figured it was from a fungus. So the doctor put me on Lamisil. I had tried it before (twice) and it never really cured it completely AND I never had any side effects. But this time I had major side effects (but I had never taken it in conjunction with ibuprofen before, which I was taking for tendinitis in my shoulder). So the rhabo goes away, but I still have this bad thumbnail. A couple of years ago I start treating it with home remedies…mainly soaking in vinegar. It seemed to work, but then it came back. I hated that ugly looking split nail. So finally I went to the dermatologist. She took one look at it and said it was NOT from a fungus, but instead from my “picking” at my nails and that I had what was called median nail dystrophy. I was taught as a kid to push back my cuticles and the doc said that was what was causing it. She said to stop that and maybe it would get better, but maybe it was scarred and would never heal. So I stopped cold turkey (which wasn’t as easy as it sounds because I was constantly pushing them back…many times a day). Well, it took about 6 months, but that did the trick. The nail is fine now. Wild, huh?
Hate to throw this out there BUT..........
I have had this discussion with the guy who owns the gym I go to. He used to teach martial arts at another gym but quit due to all the PED’s being used. He ran into a couple cases where he had to have guys sent to the hospital and in all the cases they were using PED’s. Creatine, which is legal and PSU used to use (late 70’s from my experience) can cause this also. Might just be an incredibly difficult workout session but it just seems suspicious with that many guys breaking down.
Show me an elitist, and I'll show you a loser.
Tom Clancy
so, um...should we still be jealous of Iowa's S&C program?
by The JuggerNitt on Jan 26, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Iowa's kidneys are not elite enough!
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 26, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's funny
Elite kidneys.
Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in 01. - former buckeye Antonio Pittman
I knew I shouldn't read that tweet, but I couldn't help myself.
I’m sorry I did that. This kid is disgraceful.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Jan 25, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if he ever gets any action
(you know, without resorting to his tweeted philosophy)
by The JuggerNitt on Jan 26, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Doubtful
at least for any woman with taste. But money CAN buy you 15 minutes or so of love, can’t it?
Mauti Matters
I'm not even asking in a joking "oh he's a loser, no one would want him" kind of way.
I seriously wonder if any woman would actually want that. I’m pretty sure he likened himself Jonah Hill in a lookalike post, and we all know what his personality is like. If he’s not loaded, he must be a very lonely person (though perhaps it is a chicken/egg scenario along with his personality)
by The JuggerNitt on Jan 26, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
I've seen a photo of him before
so yeah…I’d say lonely. Bitter for sure.
But ya know, those PSU bloggers have groupies…lol.
He's an child
An ignorant child. As Joe famously said, “youth is a disease, but it can be cured.”
Hopefully he matures into an adult one day.
by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 25, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for that quote.
Freaking awesome.
"As long as he behaves himself in this town, I ain't got no, ah...jurisdiction." - Link Appleyard, NCAA Compliance Officer
by ReadingRambler on Jan 25, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
over under on when that will happen?
(of course assuming he doesn’t get his ass handed to him beforehand)
by The JuggerNitt on Jan 25, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
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