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Inside Penn State's Offensive Inconsistency - Take 2

Silas Redd (25) carries a Hawkeye down the field during Penn State's win over Iowa, 13-3, Oct. 8, 2011. (BSD/Mike Pettigano) View more of BSD's own photos from the game.

On Friday, we took a look at Penn State's offensive rankings since 2004 and found that it had finished 72nd or worse in the nation 4 times, including this year's statistics.  Upon review, I wrote this:

"This is about putting your players in position to be successful, which is something Penn State does once every several years.  In 2002, 2005, and 2008, the offense was overhauled and the result was obvious.  In 2002, we saw Zack Mills slinging the ball out of the shotgun to Bryant Johnson in the first half against #7 Nebraska. In 2005, we saw the beta version of 2008's aptly named Spread HD.  In 2008, Daryll Clark was a legitimate threat to run and pass.  Each time, Penn State's offense was dramatically different - it was diverse, unpredictable, and took advantage of its talented skill players by putting them in a position to be successful.

"Where is that this year?  Where was it last year?

"Where are the plays that get Silas Redd out on the edge?  Where are the counters, cutbacks, and pitches?  Where are the drag routes across the middle of the field to utilize the blinding speed of Devon Smith?  Where is the play calling that doesn't require Penn State to run on second down?  Where is the moment when Penn State stops screwing around with the rhythm and timing of its offense and plays one quarterback consistently?"

In response, Penn State went out on Saturday against the Iowa Hawkeyes and scored 13 points.

13.

Even so, I'm not here to critique Saturday's offensive performance.  In fact, I'm coming in praise of it.  Life's funny, isn't it?

Star-divide

This isn't merely about the satisfaction of finally getting a sound win against an Iowa team that has been a thorn in our side for the past decade.  In fact, there's no question that this team has a lot of work to do to be better on offense.  All that said, despite the Saturday's scoring (or lack thereof), we saw real progress.  What we actually saw were the coaches putting their players in a position to be successful.

Each of those criticisms pointed out on Friday were addressed.  Yes, we ran Silas Redd into the teeth of the defense and he gained yards running inside at least in part because our offensive live was physically superior.  But we also elected to run plays where he and Curtis "Diesel" Dukes[1] could break around the tackle.  Several times we ran misdirection plays that we ran during the Spread HD era, with Smith looping around on an end-around fake while Redd broke in the other direction with the ball. Speaking of Smith, McGloin hit him on a drag route underneath that gave the Nittany Lions a 21-yard gain.  Smith ran a similar route during the first drive on the 3rd down in the red zone where Bolden threw the ball at Justin Brown's feet.

Finally, the staff appears to have settled on a quarterback.  After a nearly disastrous first drive that somehow managed to turn into 3 points, Rob Bolden gave way to Matt McGloin.  Bolden took one more series in the second half, but McGloin is clearly the guy that the staff, the fans, Chris Spielman, Urban Meyer, and Dave Pasch all trust.  He made two ill-advised throws on the day[2], but also checked down when appropriate to both Redd and Suhey, and showed surprising arm strength on two really nice intermediate outs. 

Still, the Lions only scored 13 points.  There is plenty of improvement to be had.  If Saturday was any indication, the X's and O's were just fine.  It's the Jimmy's and the Joe's turn to make plays.

Of course, we may be getting a clearer offensive identity sooner rather than later . . . [3]

Urban Meyer's Freudian Slip (via Furrrshurrr)


[1] "As in diesel fuel - that which makes a mack.truck.go."

[2] Seems to be the average, no?

[3] They see me trollin' . . . 

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Our people?

Urban, don’t toy with me like this.

by psuwxman on Oct 10, 2011 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Quarterbacks can be people too

Sometimes they just need tough love to learn how to function in society.

by PSUCharmas on Oct 10, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you people?

There are twelve people in the world. The rest are paste.

by WorldBFat on Oct 10, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

“”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAlVKgl_zCQ" target="new">What do you mean you people?"

by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 10, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing movie.

Hate the PC whining that came out about it…

Satan’s Alley is probably the funniest thing I’ll ever see.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Oct 10, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's talk about that statement that "requires Penn State to run on second down."

I’ve never, never, never understood the mindset that says if you throw on 1st down, whether it’s short or long and is incomplete, and then, staring at 2nd and 10, now you have to run. You’ve almost forced yourself into 3rd and long. What in the hell happened to throwing on 3 consecutive plays to get a first down? To me, it makes no sense to handcuff yourself this way.

by Ab4PSU on Oct 10, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Hilarious Slip.

It means nothing, but it’s definitely interesting.

by Swiggs on Oct 10, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I recorded the game and will probably go back and re-watch.

But I’m pretty sure McGloin had more than two ill-advised throws. Either way though, he made some really nice throws as well. I’ll continue to preach that he has a terribly tendency to get tunnel vision with Moye. That has to stop or another 4 or 5 INT game is inevitable. Maybe regular snaps will help him improve on this. Naturally, Moye is going to receive the most attention from opposing defenses, so he has to get better at finding his second option when Moye is the first. Brown is pretty good too.

by Swiggs on Oct 10, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

'Muy' and Brown

are the reception leaders — and by a long shot.

The better teams will even focus moreso on them with a double or two. Soooo, the coaches need to begin to SpreadHDmg the ball out; and this is the time to do it, considering the collective guess is that MM gets the nod and they can open-up the play-calling in practice for such things.

MooMoo is good for a few a game. BM-F and Kersey need to make some more positive plays, and more often too. Suhey is a proven option; but hasn’t had too many thrown to him thus far. With Green getting into the game (1 play, IIRC) and most likely/hopefully earning more playing time – he too is a proven option. Silas can catch too; so – there’s that!

That leaves sensible throws from the QB and receivers to catch the catchable balls to keep a balanced attack offense gaining momentum!

Do It Guys!

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 10, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

S(consonants)erba

has looked better lately too. I think between he and Haplea, we might have a nice little checkdown option on most plays.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Oct 10, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sczerba is really improving

He has been in the system for 4 years, albeit injured, and showed the game rust early in the season, but is really playing better now. His blocking was a half step slow the first 3 games but he is doing quite well now.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Oct 10, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

His uncle.

Not sure which side of the family.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 10, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duh -- must be father's side

just saw last name as I hit post.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 10, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's a Habsburg?

no actually that sucks

There are twelve people in the world. The rest are paste.

by WorldBFat on Oct 10, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't believe he went to the funeral on Friday, came home and was that focused.

He does seem to come from a fabulously supportive family and seems to be a very bright kid.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Oct 10, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problems with the Iowa game.

Of course I missed the first half, but…

What I saw was good. It may not have yielded a lot of points and I did see the endzone int, but I never expect them to be perfect. I can take and actually enjoy and appreciate a low scoring game. I just can’t take them against horribly overmatched opponents.

Back when PSU beat OSU in Pryor’s freshman year many “pundits” and college football fans thought that to be a game devoid of offense. That really wasn’t true. Both teams moved the ball between the 30s. There were very few penalties (PSU had none) and turnovers. There were 2 evenly matched good teams playing sound football and even better defense. The game turned on a turnover.

A lot of those Big 12 scoring fests that so many (read: ESPN) seem to love are actually poorly played games with little defense and lots of mistakes that are turned into easy points. Personally I’ll take a game like the 08 PSU/OSU game any day over those goofy, high scoring, filled with mistakes games any day. Maybe they don’t provide much 5 second highlight reel plays, but I enjoy a well played, complete football game.

by J Breezy on Oct 10, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The 08 Penn State/Ohio State games was one of the most exciting football games I've ever seen

Every single play was tense. Two heavyweights just going toe to toe waiting for the other to leave their gloves down for a single instant. Of course, the result worked out for us, but even if it didn’t that would be a memorable game.

It’s like a pitching duel with 2 starters that are on top of their game. Any batter could mean the difference, and every pitch has meaning. High scores might provide a lot of highlights, but close well-played defensive struggles don’t provide a moment of respite.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Oct 10, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much of this.

I couldn’t have put it any better.

When the safety bit down on that play fake and left Haplea wide open dragging at the back of the endzone as McGloin rolled out away from the play, and after running the ball every single play before that… it was poetry in Xs and Os.

by psuwxman on Oct 11, 2011 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ironically
is good to sit down in front of a TV and be afraid to run to the bathroom for 3.5 hours, in fear of missing the one play that changes everything

This is the same reasoning (make it 2 hours instead of 3.5) i give to friends when they ask how I can find soccer enjoyable. It’s the same principle. Which in turn I guess makes me understand why a large majority of the media thinks Big Ten football is boring, as well.

by swiggy04 on Oct 11, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

spot on comment

awesome

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Oct 10, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

More points would be nice, and in the future, may very well be necessary

But the offense staying on the field for long stretches, points or not, had its own advantages. The 10 consecutive running plays worked so well in part because the Iowa D was already gassed from being on the field for 30+ minutes already. The three consecutive sacks to end the game were possible because the PSU D was still quite fresh after only being on the field for 20 minutes.

We’ll need those long drives to end in TDs before too long, but on Saturday, the long time of possession was a bigger factor in the win than the touchdown was.

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by newenglandnittanylion on Oct 10, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

You can't expect a heroic effort from your defense every single week.

At some point, they’re going to give up some points. You have to be able to score more than 13.

But like I said, lots of progress.

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by Adam Collyer on Oct 10, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone's Meyer boner

is a bit premature. O$U will be opening the bank for him this fall. Joe… he’s not retiring this year.

by Tailgate Shogun on Oct 10, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe is the stickler.

Not the wallet. We can and will match tOSU dollar for dollar if it comes down to Meyer. Anyone that tells you otherwise is lying, or poorly informed.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Oct 10, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, I'm not even sure I want Urban rather than Scrap

with a brand new offensive coaching staff. Well, honestly, I would prefer Meyer, but would still be elated if Bradley’s defense is around for the foreseeable future.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Oct 11, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Disagree. Joe looks different this year in the eyes...

He actually looks identical to my wife’s grandmother…who is the same age and has Alzheimer’s

The crazy eye…its sad

I blame HITS

by SweepTheLeg on Oct 10, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree, I think he has looked much better than last year.

I still think he should choose to step away at the end of the season but he doesn’t look anything or act anything like you are portraying. The biggest difference that I see in the last couple years is I don’t see the fire burning after a loss or a poorly played game. But I definitely don’t see what you described.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Oct 10, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he just looks 85...don't know

On one hand its cool to see him out there trying to be involved but on the other it makes you realize how much he went downhill in recent years

I blame HITS

by SweepTheLeg on Oct 10, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

that I don't disagree with. The injuries have taken their toll.

He has always been in excellent shape and since the knee, hip problems he has just never seemed to get better long before something else. I’m over 50 and you just don’t heal the same. Its also got to be tough for him, knowing he is still sharp mentally but just can’t physically do what he wants. I think the pain killers and the pain depress him, they do anyone who lives that way and that does show sometimes. Its a bummer because I thought he looked great in the preseason, even after the accident, but the pain and medicine is taking its toll

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Oct 10, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want it to be noted

That I was going to reply to this in a hostile way, but decided against it. You’re killing me today, STL. Killing me.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Oct 10, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure why Octa.

To me he has a certain look, I never noticed it until my wife pointed it out.

She said “Wow look at Joe’s eyes, he looks just like my grandmother”…she was right.

I blame HITS

by SweepTheLeg on Oct 10, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mentioned the same thing to my family earlier this year.

His eyes don’t have the life and burn of even last year.

Whether it’s the injury, pain, age or exhaustion doesn’t matter. The spark isn’t there.

Bums me out.

"That Craig James gets such prominent assignments remains a mystery on the D.B. Cooper scale."
Richard Deitsch on Craig James, who allegedly killed 5 hookers while at SMU.

by Pete the Streak on Oct 10, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care what his eyes look like.

I think that’s ludicrously subjective. I care about the intensity and competency demonstrated by our players. I feel pretty good about that metric after last Saturday’s game.

"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard

by ReadingRambler on Oct 11, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In the absence of outside factors, I think you're right that Joe wouldn't retire this year

But, he’s friends with Meyer, and thinks very highly of him as a coach. If Joe has the opportunity to hand the program off to Meyer with the team in good shape to make a smooth transition, I think he’d take it.

I don’t entirely trust PSU to match OSU dollar for dollar, but I really hope they will. Plus, PSU would be a much more attractive job for a number of reasons; they might not even have to outbid OSU to land Meyer.

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by newenglandnittanylion on Oct 10, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Urban will make tons of money beyond PSU salary but you can't put a number on quality of life

SC (as we all know) is a hamlet in central PA, great fan base, top facilities, etc.

Columbus is a large city, insane SEC type fans, and unreal expectations…pretty easy decision to me

I blame HITS

by SweepTheLeg on Oct 10, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think for Meyer too

“This is how I pictured it”

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Oct 10, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, if Urban really did step down for family and stress reasons

Columbus is not going to do him any favors. The nearest major media markets are at least 3 hours away, and Philly doesn’t even care about PSU as much as PGH does. Besides, most of the PGH media attention is laced with contempt anyway. It’s easy to just ignore.

by psuwxman on Oct 11, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

JoePa

looks good for almost 85. It’s just that the job is too much for anybody that age.

tO$U sucks-ALWAYS the right choice!

by nits4ever on Oct 10, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

The important thing in

“dialing up” the plays that we would all like to see, those that provide variety to the offense and make a defensive coordinator actually earn his paycheck, is the ability of the offensive line to block for the various schemes. Are we looking for college-level play calling want our offensive line to date has only been capable of blocking for high school-level plays? (I’m being somewhat facetious in the college/high school thingy). We’ve all lamented the inability of the offensive line to bock effectively…last year for run blocking and this year for run AND pass blocking. Whether the fault is at the coaching level in not developing the talent on hand, or in the inherent talent levels in the athletes we have, are we expecting too much when what we need is at least adequate pass and run blocking – enough for the offense to function and score a decent amount of points while the defense does the heavy lifting as has worked in the past? We’re not going to be a national championship team this year, but could contend for Indy with probably a C+ offense and an A defense.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Oct 10, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This was the prototypical Penn State victory

Against evenly matchesd, or superior teams, we usually go in with the same general plan. Shut them down with our defense, and wear them out with a conservative run-first offense, until late in the game the opposing defense is so tired that we push them around and score a late game clinching TD. We won our last NC that way, we got our last victory against Ohio State that way, and we just beat Iowa that way.

Generally speaking this plan is great to watch when its working, but it’s horrific when the defense doesn’t do its job b/c the points don’t come until the 4th quarter and it’s far too late by then.

We have 3 other teams that this plan will likely go into effect for: Ohio State, Nebraska, and Wisconsin. Well maybe not Wisconsin. Joe seems to go for the jugular against Wisco ever since a few years back…

Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it

by millzners on Oct 10, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

FYI: ESPNU is rebroadcasting the game tonight

at 0330. Or maybe that is tomorrow morning.

Anyway, it’s on again in about seven hours.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 10, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL, BMan.

My wife and I tag-team the bathroom at that time of the morning. Thank goodness for being able to capture it electronically.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 10, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was trying to wrap my head around what you're capturing electronically.

The game, yes?

There are twelve people in the world. The rest are paste.

by WorldBFat on Oct 10, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, yes, the GAME

and only the game!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 11, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why thank you

I didn’t record the game the first time around; I’ll be sure to grab the replay.

It’s condensed to two hours, though… I’m sure a lot of defensive goodness got cut.

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by newenglandnittanylion on Oct 10, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually enjoy the two-hour versions, NENL.

They really don’t cut much of the action, but get rid of the huddles, standing around, and even game breaks/commercials.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 11, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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