Joe Paterno Press Conference Live Blog & Open Thread: 10.18.11
by Mike Pettigano on Oct 18, 2011 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintWe missed this last week, but no biggie. Enjoy the refreshments, bathrooms are down the hall, first door on your left, and Mr. Paterno will be just fine, thanks...
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F/+ rankings for last five years were published today by Bill
Penn State is the 11th best team since the start of the 2007 season, second best in the B1G behind OSU (and just slightly ahead of Wisky). Currently, they sit at 15th, though new rankings should come out tomorrow, where they’ll likely move up a couple slots.
Say what you will about how they look on the field; on paper (which is all the BCS computers can see), they look pretty solid. It’s about time for the “Just Win, Baby” memes to start rolling out.
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Interesting trend, thanks for sharing
- wonder how that list adjusts with a coefficient for schedule strength factored in; with that coefficient bollestered-up by the opponents “end of season” ranking, not their ranking when they were played…
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 18, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
UNPOSSIBLE
Everything ever is awful with this program. Coaching, recruiting, play calling, players, mascots, cheerleaders, STEP, the Creamery.
Until we hire Urban Meyer or Rick Neuheisal or that dude that everyone loved at Rutgers after he had ONE good season, we’ll be a bottom feeder.
by Tailgate Shogun on Oct 18, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I had forgotten that people were clamoring for Greg Schiano.
my god
There are twelve people in the world. The rest are paste.
Funny how that works.
People “in the know” had it on good authority that he was a lock to be our next coach.
Bwaaahahaha!
by Tailgate Shogun on Oct 19, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, apparently McGloin got banged up at practice this week.
Nothing major from what I read, should be available off the bench again on Saturday.
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So, there's no change from the previous seven weeks...
smh
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by Mike Pettigano on Oct 18, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
For the Rest of the Season
I don’t expect any change barring injury.
tO$U sucks-ALWAYS the right choice!
You were expecting something different?
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
PSU's QB insanity actually has turned into some form of continuity at this point.
by Chris Grovich on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've gone from
#teambolden to #teampicksomeone to #teammcgloin to #teamheyatleastpsuiswinningandthecoachesknowwhattoexpectandplanfor
so yeah, I guess, and I mean that in a mostly non-sarcastic manner
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat OMHR
by ckmneon on Oct 18, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
despite all this QB chaos
things remain oddly the same. Every week I sit down after our game and think, “Penn State won and Pitt lost; all is still right with the world”.
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by skarocksoi on Oct 18, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Except that
tO$U figured out a way to win and that’s depressing. Man they suck.
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by RWReese on Oct 18, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I was quietly turning towards starting to complain about it until the Iowa game.
My father still utterly hates it because it’s just so un-Paterno, but, I mean, 6-1 and everything. What am I supposed to do?
"Who do you think you are? You’re the son-of-a-bitch that sat at that desk over there and fired Johnny Cash. Let it go down in history that you’re the dumbest son-of-a-bitch I’ve ever met." - Merle Haggard
by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh brother...
"And also, contact with Joe Paterno for Penn State recruits doesn’t really happen. When you’re being recruited by Penn State, you don’t really talk to Joe that much."
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Didn't we already kinda know this, though?
I’m being serious.
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by Mike Pettigano on Oct 18, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Sort of, but we didn't really hear it from a recruit's mouth.
Especially in the context of why he opted out of a PSU commitment.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 18, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course we knew this
If this isn’t the reason for why PSU doesn’t do a better job of recruiting, then the program isn’t the sleeping giant I assume it is.
If you want a head coach who is actively involved in your recruting and coaching, you’re not going to pick PSU. That’s just as true last week and yesterday as it is today.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Well I want to see how much time other long-term HCs give every recruit
I mean you sign an average of 20 guys each year.
Assume you recruit them for 6 months
30 days a month
3 visits average (1 official, 2 unofficial)
I doubt most long time HC’s (Paterno, Beamer, Ferentz, Synder, et al.) are giving all that much more than Paterno is. You always here about the younger newer coaches because thats what they have to do to prove to the administration they were worth hiring.
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I disagree, but since we have no way of proving either way, it's a moot point.
I’d bet those other coaches mentioned are on the trail, recruiting, and putting in face time.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 18, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this actual dialog...
or is Pentimental just a big Friends fan? ’Cause this all seems possible.
Also, How didn’t this come out a long time ago.
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this is actual dialog
I have posted the video link before when people questioned where “moo point” came from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iObtPBh3NXs
"Rabble rabble rabble; fire Joe; snarky meme; rude nickname; rabble rabble rabble
I Doubt That is the Case
Beamer is in his late 60’s-and I bet he is still on the road a lot. Not sure about Snyder-he is kind of a caretaker at KSU.
tO$U sucks-ALWAYS the right choice!
Bill Snyder took KSU from pre-Golden Temple to a perennial top 10 team
retired, watched KSU become a perennial borderline bowl team, came back, and has them as a legit top 15 team again. He’s a great coach.
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
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He's the Jack McKeon of college footballl
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Seriously.
Snyder is the finest example of the Fry coaching tree – in fact, he may even be better than the Old Fox.
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by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just illustrating
That when a recruit says “you don’t really talk to Joe” its hyperbolic. I realize most coaches are on the trail and recruiting and putting in face time that Joe cant or wont do. I think that Denman got his time with Joe, saw an excellent Badger team with a NFL-size line and said hey this is just as good if not better for me.
I don’t fault him for being hyperbolic, he’s 18, but I think he may have meant that Bielema gave him more 1 on 1 time than Joe did.
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by Kunza on Oct 18, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I also wonder
how cognizant an 18yo kid can really be about how a comment like that will take on a life of its own in today’s environment. I realize he’s probably familiar with the recruiting process and circus surrounding it by now, but that hardly means this aside is a premeditated commentary on the state of the Penn State football program. Many professional athletes still don’t understand how to talk with the media or the consequences attached to it, so I don’t really expect that from high school seniors.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
My expectations of 17-18 year old males is incredibly low
I was an IDIOT when I was 18, and I fancy myself to be a pretty smart person. Expecting Denman to be sensitive to the reverberations of a comment that is likely true on a variety of levels is foolish. Also, as far as I can tell, his comments are only drawing much of a reaction here. It’s not like this is going to be on Sportscenter.
Right
It will blow up the internets for five minutes and then disappear (until it is brought up during a similar situation with Paterno not visiting a recruit in 2021… ).
On a side note about 18-year-olds and media savvy: I was always shocked by Lebron’s poise and comfort level with the international media attention he got as a kid. It’s like all the small mistakes and teachable moments he should have been having as a young man maturing into an NBA professional never happened and then all came pouring out at once as “The Decision.” Weird.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
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look at him, he is actually 40 years old
My grammer skills need improved.
by BMAN13 on Oct 18, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
And Greg Oden is Lebron's uncle.
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by jman07 on Oct 18, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd 'em both
Good jorb.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
What's hyperbolic about "you don't really talk to Joe"?
I’m sure he didn’t really talk to Joe. He’s not exagerating; there’s nothing hyperbolic about the statement.
You think he actually was talking to Paterno on the phone on a weekly basis? That when he visited campus, Paterno walked around with him?
The kid just told the truth. If you didn’t realize this before, you have extremely overrated the vivaciousness of octagenarions.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
I mean, thats what I do when I'm recruiting...
in NCAA’11.
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"you dont really talk to Joe"?
It is hyperbolic. Either you talk to him or you don’t. When people say "I didn’t really talk to him/her, it means they did talk, but either they didn’t put anything into it or didn’t get anything out of it.
I do not believe that Joe was talking to him on a systemic basis (week, month, day, hour). But to say that you don’t really talk to Joe is like telling someone that a restaurant has the “best sushi” ever, its hyperbole. You don’t really know if it is the best, I mean I’m sure the Japanese would argue that they make it better in Japan than anyone else in the world.
The point is there is telling the truth of, you know what I didn’t talk to Joe as much as others. I didn’t talk to him compared to other coaches. But saying you don’t really talk to Joe isn’t a truism. Its purely the opinion the kid took away from it.
I don’t think Joe really talked to him or that he talked to Joe.
Again. He’s 18. Its a product of youth to say statements like that.
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Well I am sure that Bielema gave him a lot of face time to sway his decision
but now he committed to Wiscy is he going to keep that same level of interaction? Of course not, I don’t know what the kid’s expectations are
You make a good point.
Eighteen year-olds would be better served by just saying, “Penn State is a good school, but Wisconsin is a better fit for me.” If, for example, Pryor had said that instead of the “too country” remark there likely would have been less animosity toward the guy (at least initially).
I also agree that in most cases, we shouldn’t expect eighteen year-olds to choose their words that carefully. Lord knows how many regrettable things I said at that age — and no one was sticking a microphone in my face at the time.
Read Ken Denlinger's book For the Glory
Joe used to be a regular presence in kids’ living rooms and high schools. He hasn’t been in years
TREMENDOUS read, btw
Can’t recommend this one enough for any Penn State fan. Good call.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
I have a feeling
1. When a kid gives some spurious reason for dropping a school it really means the school was not really a serious pick in the first place. Sometimes kids give reasons and I think, “That was the easy way out.”
2. Don’t discount the parent’s role in the selection process. It may not be the kid making the choice and it may be more the parents craving the love from the coaching staff.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
I say thats a good strategy
Make sure the kid loves the Penn State program, not the head coach, as the head coach can and will change at some point down the road. You don’t want half the roster wanting to transfer out because Joe leaves and thats the only reason why they came to psu in the first place. Obviously it means we lose out on a guy like JJ, but do you want guys who are 100% behind the program, or guys who aren’t?
Also, I have a friend who is a teacher and has a kid in his class who is being looked at as a preferred walk on at PSU. The kid came back from this weekend and got to talk to both Joe and Bradley and had Sukay show him around. If Joe can make time to talk to a walk on, I bet he talked to Denman too.
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Apparently he was raving about Penn State
and singing Hey Baby as he walked around all day. Good kid, and very smart from what I understand. He has a full academic scholarship, so he can go to any school he wants, but he sounds like a PSU kid already.
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I'll tell ya, I would love to see Urban Meyer...
…recruiting for Penn State as head coach.
Sorry. I can dream, right?
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by LowcountryLion on Oct 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
if only there was a facebook page we could all go on
to, you know, show our support of this idea.
by swiggy04 on Oct 18, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I would totally join! Some one should make a fanpost/shot to explain more...
by jrock4 on Oct 18, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i say make a fanpost AND shot AND comment in every posting on front page
This way no one will miss it.
by swiggy04 on Oct 18, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well played, Gentlemen! Recs around!
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
And they should title each one the same
with some catchy phrase like “A facebook page that is a must for any PSU fan”
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He's also the most gullible kid we've recruited since Muller
Side note: Want to tell me what Beliema did in 06’ that makes everybody hate him?
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Oct 18, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Deliberately ran his team offsides on a kickoff twice
to exploit a new rule which required the clock to start earlier than when the ball is actually kicked. It bled time off of the clock before half time and prevented Penn State getting the ball back to try to make a drive before halftime. It was a real dick move, especially since he did it twice.
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That maneuver prompted a comment by the “5 Hooker Killer” during halftime of that game.
tO$U sucks-ALWAYS the right choice!
Yes,
he called Joe an “Old Geezer,” for complaining about it. I was so pissed that if I could have found a number for ESPN, I would have called them up right then to demand that they #fireCraigJames. I sent an email complaint and they never responded to me.
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Honestly, that doesn't bother me, that's just a guy trying to win a game imo
Now, if we were getting blown out it’d be different, but if it’s close, and it’s legal, do it.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Oct 18, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was unsportsmanlike.
And Bulemia was just laughing on the sidelines. I’ve hated him ever since.
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You're not wrong, Bret
You’re just an asshole
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by OctaShields on Oct 18, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well, the laughing certainly makes me portray it in a different light
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Oct 18, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He is a slimy, creepy creep
"Rabble rabble rabble; fire Joe; snarky meme; rude nickname; rabble rabble rabble
It might not bother you
but it certainly bothered JoePa. Hence why in 2007 (38-7) and 2008 (48-7) the dogs were never called off. Bret might have thought he was quite the clever guy with that move but Joe got the last laugh.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
The reason, beyond the taking advantage of a stupid rule
is that it was also dangerous. His players got a ten yard head start running down the field and were able to cream the receivers as they caught the kicks. Injuries easily could have occurred. PSU could not move to block till the ball was kicked and the front line guys had to backpeddle to handle the onrush. It was a total dick move by Beliema. The rule was in place to try and speed up games and not to burn time off the clock at the close of a half. There was even a provision that the BiG refs of course didn’t use that called for an unsportsman like conduct penalty to be administered on the second straight infraction. Other than the hooker killer, everyone and their brother in college football basically called Beleima a dick.
My grammer skills need improved.
Also, as of this comment
The FOS QB poll is McGloin 128/Every Other Option in the Poll – 28
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Random:
If the fans made the decisions, Penn State would have gone 9-3 in 1986 with Matt Knizner starting under center.
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by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
And 7-5 (at best) in 2005
with QB14 throwing passes to Michael Robinson.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
by PSU_Buch on Oct 18, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
recs for both of you
ACCEPTS THE PAYPAL
Hello, everybody, coach get old, the new coach approaching, click in.
Welcome to http://www.pennlive.com
by newenglandnittanylion on Oct 18, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Silly Buch,
thinking they could have won 7 games.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 18, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
haha, I questioned that even as I posted it
3 or 4 might be closer to the mark, but I gave the Tony Hunt, DWill out of the backfield, and the defense some credit.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
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At a minimum it's best to question public opinion
Not to be a contrarian, but because the public is generally pretty stupid.
by kijana's acl on Oct 18, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
From my perspective, you are a component of "the public" and expressing an opinion.
Based on your opinion, you are stupid and wrong about the public being stupid. Which makes the public smart. That makes you smart and correct that the public is stupid. Which makes you stupid and wrong . . .
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by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 18, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well played
Though of course I meant public concensus. Like betting lines that move dramatically high or low; one can make some money betting against the public.
by kijana's acl on Oct 18, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to respond to this.
But I’m still stuck in the above loop.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 18, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
And you will never escape.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Of course opinion polls give us neither
public opinion nor public consensus. Instead they aggregate individual opinion into something of dubious epistemic status.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
by SubLime on Oct 18, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly!
What college football really needs is something of unquestionable epistemic status. Hmm, now what could that be….
by jtothep on Oct 18, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
We've had it since '66
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.
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Because none of us are as dumb as ALL of us.
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by RWReese on Oct 18, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I like the fact
that kids who need their behinds kissed by the head coach generally opt out.
Those who leave...
will be whiners.
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by Mike Pettigano on Oct 18, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
And those who don't stay on top of their recruits
Will be in the Outback or Champs Sports Bowl.
by Chris Grovich on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I know
I was just talking about how Denman talked about it like that. Regardless whether he had every right to (which he did) talk freely about his own recruitment, it just seems whiny.
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by Mike Pettigano on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
From everything I have read about JJ
He seemed almost spiteful about Penn State, and the Wisconsin rocks harder than Penn State with 30,000 less comment really got under my skin for some reason….
In the end it is his decision, all the best until he comes to Happy Valley, then I hope he is the first lineman to false start multiple times leading to a “can you hear us” type moment.
The desire to get to know the coach and have your ass kissed by him are two different things.
There’s really nothing to suggest Denman wants the latter.
But who would want to get to know Bielema?
All you can learn from him is how to be a terrible sportsman.
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by RWReese on Oct 18, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
And apparently
An even worse person. Unless (alleged) sexual harrassment of coeds is your thing. Wait a minute…
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Oct 18, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
There's nothing alleged about it
It’s happened.
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by Kyle_Martin on Oct 18, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
From the looks of Wisconsin's recruiting lately...
A gaggle of talented kids.
Or perhaps a rouge booster is offering free cheese, or taking recruits to cheese wrestling – or whatever the Miami equivalent is for fun in Wisconsin
by nuker77 on Oct 18, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Was this booster a woman...
Or do male Badgers wear blush, too?
by Pentimental on Oct 18, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
LOL.
No evidence has surfaced that suggests anything shadyis going on up there.
Yeah, I agree here
Even though Beilema is a slimy douchebag that innapropriately touches coeds at bars, there has been no reason to suspect that any sort of cheating is going on in relation to the football team and players themselves. Until something comes to light, we are best to smile and move on.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Oct 18, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
their band is a bunch of outlaws
"Rabble rabble rabble; fire Joe; snarky meme; rude nickname; rabble rabble rabble
by letsgopsu on Oct 18, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pervy Outlaws was probably Waylon Jennings' most controversial album.
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by ReadingRambler on Oct 19, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I say we murder him anyway, just to be safe.
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by WorldBFat on Oct 18, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Summaries from Twitter so far
McGloin may have had a slight concussion, but has been practicing this week.
Joe might talk to Andy Consonants about his dumb plays and penalties.
Drake still not 100% but Joe’s hinting at classroom problems too — “gotten into a little routine which I didn’t think was good for him.”
can Drake take a redshirt
or did he take one last year?
by kijana's acl on Oct 18, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
he took one
he might be eligible for a medical. I think he’s only been in 2 games which is under the 20% rule
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I think there's also some provsion involving a "persistent/chronic" condition
and his leg problems with the bone marrow issue should definitely qualify.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
Medical redshirts are notoriously tough to come by
I think if he gets two healthy seasons (2012 and 2013), then he would be less likely to get one, sadly.
by kijana's acl on Oct 18, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
We should hire Dan Earl as a "medical redshirt" consultant.
Wasn’t he at PSU for about 14 years?
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-Silas Redd
Beat me to it
Didn’t Earl follow DeChellis to Navy?
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Correct
http://www.navysports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/earl_dan00.html
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He "might" talk to him..
Gotta love it.
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Completely agree with Paterno on Northwestern
They’ll go through 5-10 minute stretches where they’ll play as good of football as anyone.
They usually follow it up with 10-15 minute stetches so bad that close games with Boston College and losses to Army are possible, but at times they look legitimately great.
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat OMHR
I think this comes from aspects of jNW football
that have been consistent for the last several years:
1) Good Coaching/Scheming – That gets the most from the talent on the roster.
2) Lack of Depth – The talent on the roster is not enough to hang in for four quarters against superior competition.
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I wouldn't overestimate the good coaching part if I were you.
Even Fitzgerald made some statement this week wondering about how much of NW’s inconsistencies during the games has to do with coaching. The problem of falling apart during games is a problem they’ve had for the last several years and it’s struck them in games against teams with lesser talent like Indiana.
Also, Fitzgerald’s often a raging cuss (He’s only now starting to draw sideline penalties this year). I’m just of the belief that calm coaching staffs are less prone to suffering emotionally unbalanced plays from their teams.
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by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Buch in that
I think Fitzgerald does a good job developing talent…he almost has to since they can never really compete in the recruiting of 5- and 4- stars except for the odd ones here and there who are mutant brilliant mind/freak athletes. Northwestern definitely gets a lot out of what they get recruiting-wise. I think he’s a decent coach at game prep but he’s also benefited from a couple of those solid athletes they were able to get – Kafka, Persa, etc. But having a couple guys carrying the rest of the team can only get you so far.
Sometimes I wonder if Northwestern is really playing up to the level of the B1G or is it more over the past several years that the B1G is playing down to the level of Northwestern, if you follow my drift. Do they look better because the B1G for the most-part is “down”.
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I read that wrong and the first sentence seemed to say
that during the 5-10 minutes of stretches during pre-game warm up they’d be a good football team. Made me laugh
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Those D numbers are nasty.
Again, it’s on paper, but as I said on Twitter last night, their D rankings are something like Pass Efficiency (3rd), Pass D (6th), Total D (6th), and Run D (22nd)
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but this is the first PSU D I can remember that had no weakness. Interior line? Great. DEs? Very solid. Linebackers? OMG Awesome, even without the best LB in the country. Secondary? Best PSU has had in a while
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat OMHR
I remember better D's
but they were in the Sandusky era. Jerry knew how to teach tackling and get them to actually do it the right way consistently.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
One weakness:
The pass rush. It’s not been nearly the issue I was afraid it would be, but it’s still there.
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by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the fact that the DEs can't get to the QB is a problem
If we go back to blitzing Hodges on every down, and it’s effective, that would at least be something.
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by newenglandnittanylion on Oct 18, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why I'm stunned that
Steele selected Crawford as a mid-season all-American. No way, I say.
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Crawford
He was just 2nd team All Big Ten, if I read Steele correctly. Even then, Crawford being there with no mention of Hill seems questionable, even from the usually redoubtable Steele.
by tuscaloosalion on Oct 18, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
gonna be
at my wife’s grandmother’s house outside indiana pa this weekend…game is on big ten network….she has xfinity (comcast)…
i know there used to be issues with comcast and big ten network, anyone know if that has been ironed out and is it on their lineup now? thanks
Ugh
In my area of MD the only way you get BTN is if you purchase their sports entertainment package. Really? I need to pay for a year of crap to see the 3 or 4 PSU games not aired on at least regional abc/espn coverage?
Still better than ESPN regional
I had concerns about BTN coming out of the gate for that reason. However, paying for a sports tier is something like $5 a month for me. Maybe $10.
Back in the olden days, you might have to spend over $10 just to order a day on ESPN Regional/+ so this is a better value.
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Yeah
But if you pay for it you get NFL redzone and the NHL network too. Both awesome additions to the B1G network
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by psuphysicist on Oct 18, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I get the sports package at the end of August and then drop it in January.
The drop costs $5, but losing the channel I don’t watch for 8 months saves over 60.
I'll be in NEPA
and won’t have it
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Where is Blue Ridge? Up in Susquehanna?
I’m in Clarks Summit and we have Comcast
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Delaware Water Gap and we have the crappy Blue Ridge
Makes me mad everyday.
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No Bars Have It Up There?
Isn’t BTN is available via DirectTV? A lot of bars have if for no other reason than to show every NFL game on Sundays.
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I should not have to go to a bar
this is Northeastern PA. It’s not like I live in the south.
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ESPN reporting Moye is out 2 additional weeks, until Nebraska
Said it was from the press conference and Joe said it. That true?
PennLive seems to agree
And they’ve got the actual quotes
He has a chance to maybe come back quicker than we were thinking he would. The kind of injury he had, they were talking three or four weeks. If we have him in three weeks, we have two weeks to go.
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Transcript of Joe's words
Here.
On intimacy with Eddie Robinson:
Q. Joe, you’re one win from tying Eddie Robinson. Can you share your thoughts about him and what he meant to college football?
COACH PATERNO: I knew Eddie. I wasn’t intimate in the sense that we spent time together. He and I appeared before a Congressional delegation when they were in the process of trying to figure out what to do with television (college football package). I got to know Eddie a little bit. Then we talked a couple times. He was a delightful person. He obviously did a fantastic job at Grambling. When you think about when he started, he was 24 years old when he was a head coach. He was really a great guy. When there was no place for the black athlete, what he and Jake Gaither did with Grambling and Florida A&M was something special. I think Eddie was a great guy.
I also liked this one
About Derek Moye possibly being predisposed to an early return from an injury b/c of …. his conservative lifestyle?:
Q. Joe, do you have any update on Derek Moye? Is he progressing the way you hoped he would be? Do you expect to have him next week still?
COACH PATERNO: He was at the practice yesterday without football gear on. Derek, he’s anxious to get in. I don’t think we’re going to have him for another couple of weeks. But I’m reluctant to say how long because he’s one of those kids…he’s a big, lanky kid, has no extra weight. He’s got a very conservative life style. I think he’s got a chance to maybe come back quicker than we would think he would. But the kind of injury he had, they were talking three, four weeks. Now, if we get him in three weeks, we got two weeks to go.
Well a dude getting pushed down the stairs in a reversal of stereotypical gender roles is pretty progressive, so I guess we can rule that out.
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by WorldBFat on Oct 18, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
What does "very conservative lifestyle" mean?
That he spends his free time studiously reading and rereading Russell Kirk and Richard Weaver?
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by SubLime on Oct 18, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it means...
He rides around in a taxpayer-subsidized mobility scooter carrying a sign that reads, “Keep Your Goverment (sic) Hands Off My Medicare”
by Pentimental on Oct 18, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
My goodness,
that’s so awful!
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Video: Derek Moye discusses greed.
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by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
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