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MISS U, DEREK.

Bravissimo. The Penn State/Iowa wrestling dual at Rec Hall on January 22nd sold out in 90 minutes yesterday. That's some impressive want-to.

For those of you that missed it. Derek Moye's going to be on ice for at least another two weeks.

And another one. Tulane head coach Bob Toledo was fired yesterday, which puts the JoePa coaching changes tally at 888. Well, 889 if you count the Jamaican prime minister's forthcoming resignation, which I most surely will.

It's called synergy, Lemon. Don't fight it. From our benevolent lords at the SBN mothership, here's Spencer's Alphabetical, as well as a gaggle of must reads from Bill Connelly: The NumericalMarket Adjustments, and a handy dandy and theoretically up to date* conference expansion primer.

Speaking of expansion. Missouri? Supposedly SEC-bound in short order. The Big East? Inviting e'erbody (unless you ask John Marinatto). Bill already wrote about all this, so you should probably just read that.

Suddenly, being "too country" sounds awesome. Because it sure as hell beats being "too hellish." Yikes, Lubbock.

I dare you to watch this and not laughcry. Poignant moments, thanks to an intrepid Tomahawk Nation reader. #rememberthefive

*Likely not up to date by the time you finish this sentence.

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Considering

Penn State won the national title last year and they were supposed to be a year away from a national title, how can you NOT get excited about wrestling this season? This was supposed to be our year.

by Galen on Oct 19, 2011 7:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Question....

Why cant some of the more popular second tier sports (women’s volleyball, wrestling), host matches/games, in the BJC….at least when its a big one like PSU/Iowa in Wrestling, or National Tourney in Volleyball, etc.? I know we wouldnt fill it…but for some of those events you could probably get twice the turnout and it might be a really cool atmosphere for our home team sports that are used to performing in front of a much smaller crowd.

by RitterPSU on Oct 19, 2011 7:38 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I don’t think the want to give up the atmosphere of rec hall. Drawing 6500 for Rec Hall drawing that in the BJC makes it half empty.

The wrestling team took on Ohio State in the BJC when THON was in rec hall, and it was awful. It’s just not a good venue for wrestling. Everyone is too far away from the action, there is no energy and no excitement.

by psuwresfan on Oct 19, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

When I was in highschool (around 2002) my wrestling coach took us to watch the national dual meet finals (or semis or something) that were being held at the BJC. It was good because they could have 4 matches going on at the same time, but from a fan perspective it sucked. We were too far away from the action to really see what was going on.

Side note: I got to see Cael Sanderson beat up a few other wrestlers. It was awesome, even from so far away.

'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'

by psuphysicist on Oct 19, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was earlier than that but sounds like you were at the NCAA championships when they were held at the BJC. Yea Cael won his 1st? I think national title at the BJC.

by psuwresfan on Oct 19, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Rec Hall is an awesome venue for wrestling.

I remember when PSU still played basketball there…Chris Webber said Rec Hall was the best place in the conference to play because the atmosphere was so intense.

by rodney20 on Oct 19, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have those events in the throbbing cauldron called Rec Hall

than have a half-full BJC that saps energy.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Oct 19, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was much better than Susan Sarandon

asking for money for hurt animals or kid in a third-world country. While they should be helped, #FireCraigJames is a cause I can get behind.

Follow my antics: @DanVecellio

Its the name on the front of the jersey that matters most, not the one on the back. -Joe Paterno

by Dan Vecellio on Oct 19, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh I'm scared

Are you gonna kill me like you killed those hookers? Or worse yet, kill me like you killed competent commentating?!?

Follow my antics: @DanVecellio

Its the name on the front of the jersey that matters most, not the one on the back. -Joe Paterno

by Dan Vecellio on Oct 19, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious...

How did the Craig James / 5 dead hookers thing start? Anyone know?

by rodney20 on Oct 19, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

IIRC

Someone vandalized his Wikipedia entry a few months ago but took a screenshot before it was deleted. It became a popular meme, especially through EDSBS.

by Nittanian on Oct 19, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't find the page,

but it was on the Curious Index on EDSBS.

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Oct 19, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

He really is a jagoff.

Remember the Joe Paterno comment he fired out when Joepa got run over by Quarless against Wisconsin a few years ago? What a dickbag.

by rodney20 on Oct 19, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like Craig James and would love for ESPN to get rid of him. But, that Hooker thing just rubs me the wrong way. Nobody should have to face that kind of stuff if it’s just make believe. Many people won’t understand it’s all a farce.

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand your point.

I think it’s so outrageous that people have to know it’s a farce (and I always say allegedly).

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Oct 19, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Mike Leach

shouldn’t have lost his job along with Bruce Feldman because that whole situation was make believe.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Oct 19, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd feel sorry for Craig James regarding the whole "dead hookers" thing

but he is Craig James. And it’s not likely slander since he’s a public figure and it’s almost along the lines of a parody and/or so outlandish that no one could possibly believe it.

Yep, I’m sure I don’t feel sorry for him. He’s an a$$hole.

by rodney20 on Oct 19, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was in reference to

Joe getting mad about the two offsides kickoffs by Wisconsin. Unless there were two awful things that he said that game.

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Oct 19, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He made a stupid, sarcastic comment about the two offsides kicks. Something like "Stickin it to the “old guy”. I was actually watching the game with some non-Pen State fans and they were laughing at the comment. I, as a Penn Stater, took great offense to that.

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 19, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He called Joe an "old geezer."

I was so mad. I tried to call ESPN, but couldn’t find a number. I had to settle for an email complaint on their website (I mentioned this on another thread).

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Oct 19, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

you sure it was "old geezer"??

I remember it as being “old fart”

Notwithstanding, he is still a dickbag.

by rodney20 on Oct 19, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe so,

At this point we’re quibbling. It was old something insulting. and he is still a dickbag.

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Oct 19, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may be having a lapse in recollection here too

but didn’t he have to apologize, on air, after the commercial break?

I’m sure that was a heart-felt apology and not because someone threatened his job on the set during commercial break too.

by rodney20 on Oct 19, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't recall an apology that same day.

But I was tuning Craig James out after that, so I may have missed it.

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Oct 19, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lot of hate

for his role in getting Mike Leach fired, when there seemed little evidence of anything other than James being an over-involved parent of a kid not playing.

by Tailgate Shogun on Oct 19, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was the Feldman suspension

that really drove the #FireCraigJames effort on twitter and after that when the Wikipedia page was posted on EDSBS.

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Oct 19, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, if a coach would’ve locked your kid in a closet you wouldn’t have stuck up for your kid? I would have been camped out in the President’s office demanding Leach get fired!

Maybe the James’ are wrong, (I don’t like Craig James), but Leach should have been fired and was and is a dirtball, too. Notice, he is still unemployed while “great coaches and great men” (sarcasm) like Charlie Weiss, Lan Kiffen, Pete Carroll and Jim Tressel found jobs pretty quickly.

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 19, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

But there's actually dispute over whether Leach locked Adam James in the closet,

or he went there voluntarily.

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Oct 19, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess Texas Tech wouldn’t have gotten rid of the most successful coach in their (recent) history if there hadn’t been some fire behind the smoke. However, it is water over the dam. I don’t really care anymore. I don’t like Craig James and I never thought Mike Leach was an honorable guy.

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 19, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check out the book

penned by Bruce Feldman. It is quite damning and pretty much shows that it was all made up by the James’ and TTech boosters who wanted James out because he took them to the whooping shed in contract negotiations.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Oct 19, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

FTFY
penned by Bruce Feldman. It is quite damning and pretty much shows that it was all made up by the James’ and TTech boosters who wanted James Leach out because he took them to the whooping shed in contract negotiations.

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Oct 19, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops

Thanks Paige.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Oct 20, 2011 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damning is an understatement...

It alleges that James perjured himself in a deposition, no?

by rodney20 on Oct 19, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only that,

From everything I hear, Adam James is a spoiled, lazy brat.

Can’t say I feel sorry for any of the James’.

by rodney20 on Oct 19, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

In assuming what you've just assumed

You’re crediting ESPN’s reporting of the incident to be objective and factual. Think about that for a second. First in general, just based on what ESPN is. Second, James (an ESPN employee) and his PR machine obviously had a vested interest in a certain light being shined.

Acquaint yourself with the other side.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Oct 19, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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