McGloin vs. Bolden: has the world gone mad?
by Traditional on Oct 21, 2011 6:38 PM EDT
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PrintSomebody explain this to me. McGloin is ranked 59th out of 119 QBs in the country (top 1/3) with a 136.0 QB rating. In the Big 10 he is sandwiched between Michigan's Denard Robinson (48th) and MSU's Kirk Cousins (51) on one side, and Nebrska's Martinez (71st) and Purdue's TerBush (72nd) just below him. He has a respectable 57.1% completion rate, with 5 TDs and 2 INTs. Bolden on the other hand is almost dead last ranking 118th out of 119 QBs with a 85.2 QB rating completing only 44.9% of passes for 1 TD and 4 INTs. Since we live in the United Sates of America, one of the few counties where pure merit is rewarded, it is only natural, ethical and fair that McGloin is the starting QB for Penn State while Bolden needs to try to earn his way into that spot through competition. But instead this fiery scrappy walk-on from Scranton is getting the shaft. And it is not fair to Bolden to reward poor play. Has the coaching staff and the world gone completely mad, or am I missing something?
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by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 21, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I heard that Matt McGloin was a walk on that has limited upside.
But Bolden on the other hand was a highly regarded four star recruit. I think Bolden has potential to be really great. Also McGloin threw a lot of interceptions against Florida and has never proven anything against good defenses. Statistics are not important due to the relative sample size, and Bolden played better against Alabama.
I think I just about covered it. And it’s really not all that long a paragraph to cover a topic that has had about a million words written about it in the past few months.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
by jesse. on Oct 21, 2011 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
You Forgot to mention Bolden's Dad!
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I just signed up to BSD
And I didn’t realize this subject has been beaten to a pulp the last the last few weeks. It still doesn’t make it any more fair. Last year I thought Bolden was the better QB early on, but McGloin started to prove me wrong. This year McGloin is proving to be far more consistent and clearly the better QB so far…and the gap widens every week.
You're right, and welcome.
I don’t disagree with you. And I was an avowed anti-McGloin member for a long time. But he looks better, plays better, and commands the team better. You’ll get responses about different play calling, among other things, but as more and more stats are compiled, it’s just extremely hard to believe that MM hasn’t earned the starting spot.
The problem is, and I’m really starting to believe this, that neither of these guys should be blamed. Playing Bolden is actually hurting his development at this point, and not playing McGloin 100% of the time is a shitty decision.
Stick around awhile, we’ll have some good discussions that don’t involve head scratching decisions eventually. I’m anxiously awaiting the day when the worst debate is which one of Skyler Mornhinweg, Silas Redd, or Eugene Lewis to cast my Heisman ballot for.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Skyler's Dad wants to follow his son to PSU and coach his position...
…although Marty Mornhinweg was a bad head coach (on horrible Lions’ teams), he really knows how to coach an offense and specially the QB.
I am banking on Skyler being one of those “coaches kids” that have all the intangibles, smart as can be, and just never makes mistakes.
WE ARE.......PENN STATE!
by Nick7 on Oct 21, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't Skyler a Girls Name?
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by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Are there boys/girls names anymore?
Evan is a girl, Leslie is a boy, and Gaga is a thing.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't Skyler USED TO BE a Girls Name?
Also, Johnathan Winters does not want to ride a girl’s bike……..but that’s another thread.
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by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It's for rich white kids too.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Coaches' sons are said to have a better understanding of the game, and rightly so.
It should also be noted that Penn State is currently recruiting the Steelers’ OL coach’s son. So we are well on our way to establishing a team of coaches sons and New Englanders.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does he have a little brother...
I thought that kid went or committed to Purdue?
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
He'd have to be committed to want to be a Boilermaker.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Older brother Rob committed to Purdue last year.
Patrick is a Class of ’13 OT from NA.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven't seen the Younger play.
The Elder was pretty damn good.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
He's playing Shaler on ROOT right now.
You can see him match up against Class of ’12 (and PSU commit) JP Holtz, who apparently plays 43 positions.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No Syracuse and WVU?
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Gave that a shot, but then I realized it was Syracuse and WVU.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you ever go to the Pizza and Wing Pub in Bridgeville?
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
I used to live there.
Not literally. But they have some phenomenal ‘za. I don’t live in Bridgeville anymore, though.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I started meeting clients at the Bridgeville Library
so I can justify going there for lunch once a week. It’s like the Sharp Edge, but with Wings and Beer instead of decent but overpriced food.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Yea, it's got some great food.
And the bar side has a good beer selection. Just stay away from Castaways across the street. And if you’re trolling for estate business, hit up the nursing home next door.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't troll for business.
My socks never match and they all have holes in them, but I don’t troll business.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
I'm just saying, those Bridgeville silver foxes probably have some money.
And I’m currently wearing a sock with a hole in it…must be a lawyer thing.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
But if their Husband is dead...
…how can they divorce them.
Also, are they playing that NA game at Heinz Field?
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Don't think so, but I stopped watching.
And if their husbands are dead, that means they need to figure out how to leave all their money. HELLO INTER VIVOS TRUST! And who sets up the trust documents? Lawyerz.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
They're not.
It just kind of looks like it.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Cuse is up on WVA, and Thanks for the ROOT info.
Watching them both, plus Louisville vs Rutgers.
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by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitt plays UConn next Wednesday.
Wednesday. Talk about a sacrifice to the ESPN guide.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
A New Low
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by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No, not new.
Just a rare low.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
by jesse. on Oct 21, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There was a Tuesday game this week.
I mean, I watched it, cause football is better than Grays Anatomy. But TUESDAY.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Coaches sons, eh!
Isn’t JayPa a coaches son?
Why not just enjoy the journey?
by OlderBudweiser on Oct 21, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw him play once.
He was fuzzy on his geography, though.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He played against Virginia
I remember JoePa, at a State College QB Club Lunch after the game, deriding his son because he went into the game in Q4, after the issue was decided, and delayed the snap while he stood under center, waiting for the VA defense to get set!
It was pretty funny at the time.
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by joefromboalsburg on Oct 22, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought that was Temple.
But 1988 was a strange year.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Great Thinking
Start the Bolden vs. Mornhinweg (I’m going to have to learn how to spell his name) early.
Elizabeth, with Vin Scully, only folks working longer than JoePA at same place!
by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Traditional.....Welcome to BSD!
The Reason Bolden starts every game is embedded in the lyrics of This BSD Anthem presented by CAIRO, many moons ago. Let me introduce you to Drafi Deutscher Buffalaxed, usually reserved for Minnesota games, but much needed in this post.
Violent fish in their wringing felt.
Down Down, Down Down.
The skipped island deer sued your hilt.
Down Down, Down Down.
Novel shite on eyes and blitzed.
Albert Unser believed in me.
ALICE ALICE GET MORE PIE!
Don’t be a sentence high!
Money’s eye muddish by design
Down Down, Down Down.
Nectar up the business I lie
Down Down, Down Down.
ALL RIGHT NOW!
Mama shine on eyes and braced, HEY!
Albert Unser believed in me.
ALICE ALICE GET MORE PIE
Don’t be a sentence high!
Mamas dine on eyes and blitz
Albert Unser leaving mist.
ALICE ALICE ALICE GET MORE PIE
Don’t be a sentence high!
Mindy golden in the ring for me.
Down Down, Down Down. Hey!
With this tooth towel we stand Zack the Deer,
Down Down, Down Down.
Mama stein on eyes and breached.
Albert Unser, they’re leaving me!
Alice Alice get four pie.
Don’t be a sentence high!
Mothers dine on eyes and bleach.
Albert Unser once believed in me!
ALICE ALICE ALICE GET MORE PIE!
Don’t be a sentence high!
EVERYBODY NOW!
Mothers dine on eyes and bleach. ALICE
Albert Unser once believed in me! ALICE
ALICE ALICE ALICE GET MORE PIE!
Don’t be a sentence high!
Mother dine on eyes and bleach.,,AWFUL!
Albert Unser wants to label it!
Alice, Alice, Alice, get more pie.
Don’t be a sentence high.
(Lets come in standing with the raincoat guy!)
Mindy golden in the ring for me.
Down Down, Down Down. ALICE IS ON!
Give a toy of the soggy steer.
Down Down, no more, Down Down.
Hear the watchdog!
Mothers dine on eyes and bleach!
Albert Unser believed in me!
ALICE ALICE DIG FOR PIE!
Dont be a sentence high!
Mothers dine on eyes and bleach!
Albert Unser leaving me!
ALICE ALICE ALICE KICK MORE PIE!
Don’t be a sentence high!
NUMBER NINE!
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by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Alice Alice, Get More Pie
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by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I flag it every time.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
It's The Church!
They Stand In The Way.
They Stand In The Way.
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by joefromboalsburg on Oct 21, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was a pretty nice flag.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Flag gets you to the naked lady flag from the original “in-laws” movie, to the the church preventing he dictator from flying the flag that he wants, to me mentioning that the dictators flag was very nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8b37w4lZI0
Here, and being able to pull that clip off the internet in ten seconds makes me want to sing the America Fuck Yeah song. There are boobies in the clip, so don’t let the kiddies see it.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
welcome
careful when you poke the qb bear around here. no offense. (adianoeta’d)
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True, but it doesn't have to be that way.
QBs and coaches are almost always going to be met with “HEY STOOPID POST CUZ ITS NOT NEW” but there are still debates on these issues. Especially when the coaches are playing the wrong player (debatable) and the coaches are the reason Penn State just lost a player (debatable).
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 21, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You know...
It’s not a bad welcome to BSD primer. Create post, see where the tangents take you.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Just lost a player?
Did I miss something in one week?
by misdreavus79 on Oct 22, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
We had a recruit decommit.
Don’t ask me who, I rarely learn their names before they are juniors.
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JJ Denman decided Wisconsin is the best place for him
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by Kyle_Martin on Oct 23, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not who I was referring to.
I meant a current player. It’s not public yet, but his reasons for leaving are interesting.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 23, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So when is it going to be made public?
I hate it when you guys with premium site access tease us with these kind of things!! LOL!
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I'm not sure when.
Presumably when the player or team officially acknowledge it. As you can guess (by who was in Chicago), it is not a player of utmost importance right now. The story is more behind why he’s leaving.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Oct 23, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to be picky but..
59/119 = 49.5%. Mc does however barely fit into the top 1/2. If you believe however that he has played at the same level or better than Denard, Cousins or Martinez then I think we have an entirely new problem.
We answered this question already.
The answer is 4.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
May I echo PsuinBosston.....
Isn’t this a new and provocative subject…..I still refer you all to Joe’s quote about, “trying to do something special this year.” It’s trying to win the B1G without a Div1 QB, despite coaching or “whatever”. You folks just don’t get it (Eyes roll back into cranium, thank you).
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by DerryPharmer on Oct 22, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmmm...
Since we live in the United Sates of America, one of the few count®ies where pure merit is rewarded…
I imagine you don’t get out of the country much.
Darn Malaysians and their pure merit awards:
Thank goodness he's wrong, I'd be unemployed and homeless!
But when I got back, the place I made the purchase no longer exists.
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