Penn State 34, Northwestern 24: It Started In Scranton, It's Now Number One
by Chris Grovich on Oct 24, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintSo, This Is Settled, Then? Matt McGloin started and produced six straight scoring drives (four touchdowns, two interceptions field goals) before the offense bogged down in the third quarter. Rob Bolden never saw the field. Speaks for itself, really.
Except That It Doesn't. After the game, Jay Paterno insisted that the competition starts from square one today, and the coaches "wanted to give Matt a shot to [start], nothing beyond that." Which, OH WHAT THE HELL? Joe Paterno added to the post-game confusion:
So we're clearly not past the point of managing egos through the media, but unless Bolden starts and gets extensive playing time against Illinois, the Paternos are trolling the hell out of us. Of great hilarity, however, is Bob Flounders' face when told of Jay Paterno's above quote:
They see me LOLin'.
STOP SENDING DEVON SMITH ON DOWNFIE-- Oh. Let's face it, if there is a Big Ten secondary against which Devon Smith should be sent on post patterns, it's Northwestern's sad sack bunch. Smith made a token simple head-and-shoulder fake to the outside against Northwestern's corner -- in reality, he just ran by the poor guy and caught a perfect bomb from McGloin. Also, tough little bugger. His near-goal line catch before half could've easily been an interception if he didn't hold on for dear life along with the Northwestern defender. Two plays later, Stephfon Green powered into the end zone and Penn State would never relinquish the lead.
Much more below the jump.
We're Cool, Then? Hey, Stephfon Green back and getting meaningful carries! Nine of them, for 33 yards (in addition to a pair of catches for 10 yards). Curtis Dukes only got two carries. Mike Zordich had the token late-game fullback dive. And that was it. Surprisingly, Green got the bulk of his work on a late-game drive as Penn State was playing keep-away with a 10 point lead. Nice to see him back in the coaching staff's good graces, and it's easy to see that the team enjoys having him back in a meaningful role. Let's see how much action he gets in upcoming games before lamenting the loss of work for guys like Dukes and Brandon Beachum.
Persa Doing Persa Things. He was effectively annoying for two quarters, before the track meet turned into a punt-a-thon. It's not hard to see how Penn State, usually playing a bit of a passive defense, gives up early scores to Northwestern on a regular basis. And as always against Northwestern, Tom Bradley makes the necessary adjustments and the running lanes / passing windows shrink until there's nothing left but Jordan Hill eating your lunch in the backfield.
Repeated Moments Of Silas. We've been begging the coaching staff to run Redd to the outside, and they did so constantly against Northwestern, who was totally unable to stop it. Redd ended up with 164 yards on only 18 carries (9.1 avg.). His 42-yard run prior to halftime was on 3rd and 1 against a six-man front for Northwestern (derp.) and was a combination of near-perfect blocking by Penn State and Northwestern's linebackers and safeties running themselves out of the play. There was quite a bit of that by the Wildcats -- not a surprise, as we covered their putrid defensive stats thoroughly in Friday's preview. They did not disappoint.
In Praise Of. Jordan Hill and Gerald Hodges combined to make the play of the game, as Hill tipped a Persa pass which was intercepted and returned by Hodges and returned to the Northwestern 19. One play later, Silas Redd was (again) around the edge and into the end zone. Redd was great, naturally. No turnovers for the last 59:55 of the game. And perhaps it was just me watching the game on a tiny television in standard definition, but I don't recall many dangerous Moxie Moments from McGloin.
Nexting. IlLOLnois, 21-14 losers to Purdue at Ross-Ade on Saturday (and taking it well!). Purdue totally dominated the game -- it was 21-0 for about 30 minutes of game time. The game will air on ABC (ESPN2 in outer markets), the Penn State Sports Network and www.GoPSUsports.com
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I think you mean field goals. McGloin didn’t turn the ball over against Northwestern.
I know, I found it difficult to believe, too.
I'm still 100% convinced that Bolden is the better long-term option, however...
if they’re going to start Mac as THE GUY, then just friggin’ do it already. Enough with this “we may, or may not” stuff concerning the quarterback situation. The best thing for this team right now is to pick one and stick with him.
Of course, if Bolden gets the same complete-game opportunity against Illinois that McGloin got this week against Northwestern, I’ll be very curious to see how it goes. Though, once again, McGloin is going up a defense that makes pee-wee quarterbacks look good, while Bolden has to play equal or better against a defense with somewhat of a pulse.
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb
How are you still so sure Bolden is the better long-term option?
Has he shown anything that tells us he’s capable of being anything other than QB14 v. 2.0.? If so, I haven’t seen it, so I see nothing wrong with going with the guy who is clearly better now (and will likely be so next year).
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Oct 24, 2011 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
And exactly how do you know McGloin is going to be better next year?
So we went from “McGloin can’t get better” to “Bolden can’t get better” all of the sudden?
by misdreavus79 on Oct 25, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Re: 'Enough with this "we may, or may not" stuff'
I believe the estimable ReadingRambler said it best, in his pretort yesterday morning:
What Joe actually thinks: “I played him for the whole game, you incompetent antelope, isn’t it then fairly obvious that I trust McGloin to actually score points so the defense has time to adjust? Do you think I would inform you of my intentions? What right have you to know of my intentions? You are an animal. I am a human. I am more of a Pennsylvanian than you and I was not born in the Commonwealth. You are not worthy to breath the air through which, in an ideal state, my spit would fly towards your face. Infidel. What is the Italian equivalent of infidel? I’ve forgotten. In any case, I utterly despise all of you.” What Joe actually does: Plays McGloin almost exclusively for remaining games, claims he “hasn’t picked one guy”
My only problem with this now
Why keep saying this now when its clear that Matt is the guy, not for the sake of the fans or media, but for Bolden. I mean, I would take it as more of an insult if the coaches keep insisting that its an open race, when clearly its not at this point, rather than just have them say “yeah, McGloin is doing better so he’s going to start and we’ll try and work in Bolden when we can”. To me, this is just setting up another “Bolden gets pissed about playtime and wants to leave scenario”, which just seems unnecessary at this point.
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Bolden holds no power at this point
If he’s thinking of transferring, where’s he going to go? I don’t think he’s proven himself enough to head to somewhere like Delaware, a la Devlin. Any school that would take him and give him playing time at this point would be a HUGE step down.
What did Devlin do to "prove" himself?
Bolden has three years of eligibility left, of course schools would want him.
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by Mike Pettigano on Oct 24, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
3 years?
he just used up 2 here he might have a redshirt left dont’t think hes got three.
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This is correct.
He essentially has three years to play two seasons of football, which is why a FBS transfer would still be in play.
by Chris Grovich on Oct 24, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
What has Bolden done to prove himself? Granted Bolden will have a redshirt available that devlin will not have to make him more appealingly to a transfer to an fbs school….but I don’t think bolden is going to make tons of schools go after him. Heck msu didn’t want him anymore once they got the qb who decommitted from bc (the name escapes me)
by JRM397 on Oct 24, 2011 9:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Boisture was the guy you’re thinking about who decomitted from BC. I think he’s actually left MSU. You make a good point. U of M didn’t recruit him as they went after and got Devin Gardner and MSU got the Boisture kid and the Maxwell kid from Midland who was very highly touted. Could it be that Bolden was just overrated coming out of HS? Gotta say, when I saw him play, I wasn’t real impressed. Of course, he’s tall and has a strong arm and I’m sure he looked amazing at QB camps and 7 on 7 crap where no one’s actually trying to tackle you. The “star givers” love that stuff.
Ehhh
The way Joe has handled this QB situation this whole year is…different. A lot of it is criticism-worthy, for sure, but I think the real story is that he’s clearly trying something new. We know Joe can be stubborn. But we also know he does what all good teachers do: he continues to try to learn. I’ve thought, and he alluded to it last week, that he was disappointed in himself for how he handled the Clark/Devlin situation. And disappointed that the program lost a talent in part because of how he handled it. So, he’s been trying some new approaches to that position’s handling this year.
Now while a big part of that has been the numbers of snaps, the kinds of play-calls each has gotten, and who gets off the bus first (notably not in play this week in Evanston, when Mac got his first start), the other big part is the messaging. And we all know a big part of JoePa’s messaging is his frosty relationship with the beat writers. And that part, to me, is just funny. Rambler covered it better than I can, but yeah, I don’t have a problem with Joe spinning this silly to those guys.
But you may be right ska, that this messaging, along with the way they’ve functionally handled the position, may be a real disservice to Bolden. I think it’s all both assailable and defensible. But in end, or to this point, Joe continues to hold the trump card as the dubyas pile up.
by jtothep on Oct 24, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
No doubt
I’m not mad they picked a guy, and I figure the coaches know these players better than we do, so they probably know what will push the right buttons for the right guys. If I were in Bolden’s position right now though, I’d be pissed cause it seems like you’re just getting jerked around. I can’t see Joe saying things to mess with the media that may damage a kid’s confidence though. Maybe things have already been layed out for Bolden and this is just a game for him to save some face; I don’t know. I just don’t want to hear about how Joe chased off another QB with the way he handled the situation.
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Unless there's something going on
with Paull Jones that we don’t know about beyond the scheduling issue with classes and the possible academic challenges. If you have someone who is “the Guy” and another who might transfer, but behind them is another person who coule be “the Guy” with yet another incoming Freshman with potential, then it doesn’t make sense. BUT, if there’s something wrong with the other person who could be “The Guy” and the chasm between McGloin and Morningweg is wide if you lose Paul Jones AND Rob Bolden, then you try to keep Bolden for as long as you can. That’s the only wat it makes sense to me.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Bolden may be better and have more potential in every facet of the game
but he has one weakness that’s a gamebreaker — dealing with a blitz. Until he gets that fixed he shouldn’t see the field again.
And play action
granted, Bolden’s play action fakes and reads are 10X better this year than they were last year, but we shouldn’t confuse that with being “good”
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
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-poor pocket presence
-slow delivery
-poor accuracy
by JRM397 on Oct 24, 2011 9:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not to be too negative
-he does have a cannon
-once or twice a game you see him make an nfl throw (see last completion vs purdue)
by JRM397 on Oct 24, 2011 9:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
give it a rest already
Let Moxie start. And folks, stop defending Bolden, he’s played horribly. This team will (continue) to win with defense and the running game. It will lose because of (lack of) QB play.
As for long term – I will be VERY interested to see whether Paul Jones can get his academic house in order and contend for the starting job next year – think he’ll be a red shirt sophomore, should have a good handle on the playbook – hopefully he can make the entire argument moot.
Hopefully.
He has played horribly
but he’s a sophmore with less than 2 years at Penn State. I, for one, am not going to hate on the kid or flat out give up on him just because he isn’t playing to the level we want him to. Hell, by Joe’s standard method, he shouldn’t have even seen any meaningful game time at this point, so I doubt he has given up on the kid. I have no problem giving McGloin the starts going forward as he’s the better QB right now, but lets not sit around and act all indignant like Bolden is a RS Senior and can’t throw an out route.
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by skarocksoi on Oct 24, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So basically
He’s Anthony Morelli plus great mechanics minus the ability to set up / throw a good screen or do good play action fakes
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat jNW
The only possible separating factor is…does bolden show up to the post game interview room after a loss?
by JRM397 on Oct 24, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bolden is Betamax and McGloin is VHS.
Yeah, sure…many believed that Betamax was a better format. Smaller cassette, clearer picture, whatever. VHS, despite all it’s shortcomings, came out the winner and ruled the video world throughout the 70’s and into the early 80’s. I have no doubt that there are STILL some people clinging to their Betamax tapes, mumbling over and over to themselves in some dark corner, "It’s just better…it’s just better…how could they not SEE!
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
by RWReese on Oct 24, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
/owned Betamax
/filled up 10 Beta cassettes with Yo! MTV Raps episodes
by Chris Grovich on Oct 24, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Fab 5 baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I blame HITS
by SweepTheLeg on Oct 24, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but
I remember when there were FOUR channels on TV. FOUR. ABC, CBS, NBC, and PBS. FOUR. And no remote. Your father would say, “See what’s on NBC,” and you would get up, walk across the room, turn the knob – click, click, click – and just when you sat back down your father would say…“Now go to ABC.” That’s why we were all so skinny back then…all the up down up down up down.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
by RWReese on Oct 24, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't have cable until I turned 16
But we had FIVE channels! I hate to call Fox an actual channel, but this was in the Simpsons’ heyday, so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.
Also, we all wore onions on our belts, as was the fashion at the time.
Yeah, I remember getting cable at about 15 or 16
and watching WPIX out of New York. It was crazy going from FOUR channels to about eight channels. It was right about then that the news broke that the Earth was actually NOT flat.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
I Tell My Kids
WE had 4 black and white channels until about 1967-then we got 2 fuzzzy UHF stations. We didn’t have a color TV until 1973 (I was 14.). My kids wonder how I survived.
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We got a color TV in '71 when I was 14 as well...
But, we had 12 channels, sort of. In Oil City we got ABC, CBS, and NBC each in triplicate from Pittsburgh, Youngstown, and Erie (there’s 9). Additionally, we received independent 53 and WQED from Pittsburgh along with WPSX from Clearfield (that’s where the transmitter was and how they identified themselves). The last of these was critical im my personal journey because they were the exclusive home of TV Quarterbacks with Joe Paterno.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
True.
The addition of Fox was like something from outer space
by Tailgate Shogun on Oct 24, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
You got FOUR channels? That was more than we had.
We got PBS (WPSX) and CBS (10 – Altoona). Usually we could get NBC (6 – Johnstown, but we got it on UHF). Our neighbors two houses down had cable, but the cable company didn’t go beyond that until I was a teenager. Then, we got another CBS channel, ABC out of Scranton/Wilkes Barre and three New York independents (5, 9 and 11). Before we got had cable, I remember looking longingly at the sign on the Autoport saying “10 Channel Cable TV”. (They must have counted the text only channel 4 & maybe HBO.)
Before we got cable, the only way we could get any stations was connecting to wire from the huge antenna on the roof. I never understood the concept of a portable TV because it wouldn’t get any channels where I was.
This also reminds me of a cartoon from back then. Two guys are having lunch & one of them says, “I just got me one of those remote control TV’s.” His friend says, “It will be a sorry day when I am too lazy to make my wife or kids go and change the channel.”
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by Elihu on Oct 24, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure most on here ever heard of Betamax
I blame HITS
by SweepTheLeg on Oct 24, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I know. Trust me, I know.
There was also that moment in the late 80’s when RCA came out with Laser Discs that were about as big as LP’s (for you young’uns, LP’s were “albums” made of vinyl that played music on a thing called a “turntable” that was chisled out of stone by neanderthal man in caves). RCA thought they were going to be HUGE, and they were – in size, but about a minute later the CD-DVD was released and, well, there it is.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
I have a turntable and a nice collection of vinyl albums
We’re not all uncultured!
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I'm with you man
vinyl sounds way better
by Nittany Llini on Oct 24, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Betamax was a wonderful recorder for music.
It gave you near reel to reel quality and four hours of recording time — perfect for party tapes.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
The tape wars...
VHS was cheaper to manufacture. VHS tapes could record an entire movie. VHS had porn. Yep, porn. Porn drove tape rentals and sales and won the battle for VHS.
My parents didn’t but their first color TV until I left for Penn State. I remodeled the family room for them in the Summer before freshman year. When I came home during Thanksgiving, there was a brand new color TV. This was 1979. I had no idea how many shows like I Dream of Seeing Her Navel were in color.
by Pentimental on Oct 24, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
McGloin
will be the de facto starter in 2012 barring injury. PJ in 2013 if his academics are in order. I don’t expect Bolden to be back next season. Of course all bets are off if there is a new HC after this season or next.
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Presumptions, assumptions, cloaks, daggers, and smoke screens
Nothing is what it seems, yet everything is obvious
We won, but the competition starts now
QBs need to prove that they can prove themselves
because it’s certainly not for certain
that they can play a full game
because they haven’t. (except McGloin, but it proves that he needed the chance).
No decisions have been made other than the decision to keep the competition going.
Silly journalist asking for an answer when he was given one: that there are no answers.
Waddya want? We won the game!
Thunderc*ck didn’t play but will, Ginger played all game but may not start next
Oh what the hell,
1+1=5 in another universe.
Penn State football = string theory.
And Jay Paterno...
…will be the next head coach.
"Wham! a homma. Wham! Another homma. Wham! Wham! Wham!"
by LowcountryLion on Oct 24, 2011 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe.....
not necessarily here, but maybe.
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by DerryPharmer on Oct 24, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Jay would be a good HC, he seems like he can delegate.
Plus he can bring Bolden with him where he goes.
Places I can see Jay ending up:
- Rutgers
- UVA
- Directional Michigan school
- Minny
- Bucknell
I blame HITS
I'd be happy with any one of those places...
‘Cause then he wouldn’t be at Penn State anymore…
Amen...
"Wham! a homma. Wham! Another homma. Wham! Wham! Wham!"
by LowcountryLion on Oct 24, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on, you're just naming school at random.
It will be interesting to see if Jay remains in coaching after his father is done, though. Or, more specifically, how far he’d be willing to stray from State College to keep coaching.
by Chris Grovich on Oct 24, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
JayPa has been a position coach...
…and coordinator for PSU his dad for 12 years or so, right?
If he really wanted to be a head coach anywhere else, I think he could have moved on by now. So I think he’s definitely ‘waiting in wings’ and will make a serious bid to be the next head coach at PSU. God help us all.
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by LowcountryLion on Oct 24, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe he just wants to coach with his 84 year old father.
Seems to me that being so close to your father is a great thing, especially at that age.
Jay’s employable in the coaching profession after Joe retires. I understand the appeal of coaching alongside your dad and sticking with him. Coaching inevitably leads to a life of movement and instability. It must be nice to have a job you like at the school you love while you work alongside your father and have your family close by.
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by Adam Collyer on Oct 24, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
This is a nice thought
I’m not sure I’ve seen that notion articulated this reasonably & kindly about Jay before.
by jtothep on Oct 24, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, it appears occasionally and......
truer words have never been spoken or written….most of you/us don’t realize that Jay is more than one dimensional…he can/will be successful in other things besides FB.
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by DerryPharmer on Oct 24, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, this is a case in point as to why JayPa is so divisive among Penn State fans
We have to sift through a shit-ton of vitriol to find these kinds of characterizations.
Does anyone know why I can't see the "actions" tab for this post - and this post only?
Just some weird SBN glitch?
In any event, +1, Adam.
There ain't no point deficit can hold my defense down.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 24, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Cleary
SBN doesn’t want nice things about Jay rec’d
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by Kyle_Martin on Oct 24, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
THEY PUT HIM BEHIND A COLUMN & THE WINDOWS ARE CLOSED!
by jtothep on Oct 24, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
AND HE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO OPEN THEM!!!!
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Anyone who thinks Jay
has any sort of shot at being the next head coach has no understanding of the power structure at Penn State. It’s fun for the Pitt fans to taunt us with it, but in reality there’s no reason to lose sleep over it.
THIS
I am not worried about this at all.
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Oct 24, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Revolt
is what would happen-if the form of a massive drop in season ticket sales-if Jay is the next head coach. I should point out that MK (the actual PSU grad in my family) thinks this is what both Joe and Jay want-although she realizes that they will never admit. it.
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But not by as many points as I wanted us too!
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!
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You forgot to mention we scored a TD on a screen pass!!!
I was so thrilled it finally worked! They executed it properly and finally got a …….wait….it was called back?! So it wasn’t a TD? (hand hitting forehead)…..sigh…….(thinks of good times when PSU teams could complete a screen pass).
It was so well done, too...
But Stank’s penalty was at the point of attack, so who knows if Green would’ve actually scored.
by Chris Grovich on Oct 24, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
The defense definitely improved in the 2nd half, but...
It should be noted that NW had a sure TD pass go right through a receiver’s hands, and I feel the game completely changed once Persa went out on a drive they were looking to score on as well.
Yes, there were some dodged bullets in that 2nd half.
by Chris Grovich on Oct 24, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It just reminded me of a lot of other games vs NW
There were some uncomfortable moments, some doubt, but ultimately they were able to do enough to win. I’ll take it.
by mundyscorner99 on Oct 24, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
When you look at that "sure TD pass" more closely
that ball was overthrown. Yes, the receiver touched it with two hands, but I’m not sure he got either palm on it, and he was extended as much as he could be.
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
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Perhaps, but I think it was definitely a catchable ball, and...
my point is that there were some other factors involved in the defense’s improvement in the 2nd half besides the “adjustments” made by Tom Bradley. An average Purdue team moved the ball for big plays against this defense and so did NW, and I thought our defense was a little better than that.
by mundyscorner99 on Oct 24, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The receiver took a bit of a weird angle at it. The throw looked pretty good to me, but whatever, no harm.
by Chris Grovich on Oct 24, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
New meme building......
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by Adam Collyer on Oct 24, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't apologize. This is going to be awesome.
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by Adam Collyer on Oct 24, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No it's going to be
GLORIOUS!!
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by Paige2PSU on Oct 24, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Win.
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by Adam Collyer on Oct 24, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely - no harm, we won the game
NW has moved the ball well against pretty much everyone they’ve played since Persa has come back. So I don’t expect us to shut them down completely. I was just frustrated because it seemed like he was picking them apart at times. (I think at one point he was something like 21 for 25 or something like that.)
It is perfectly clear that this team is not about style point or margin of victory, I’ll take a win any way it happens, just giving my thoughts on the defense.
by mundyscorner99 on Oct 24, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
So far we've done the best keeping them off the scoreboard
since Persa’s return. It doesn’t help that NW was almost gifted a TD since they got the ball on PSUs 35 to start the game
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We were both lucky
Yes, we were lucky the guy failed to make a pretty-tough catch, but they were lucky that we overthrew Devon Smith who was wide open again in the third quarter for a long touchdown pass. The way I look at it is we both failed to make those plays, so we’re even.
Also lucky that Powell fumbled on the first possession of the game.
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by Adam Collyer on Oct 24, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Persa's injury unlikely to make difference
I was disappointed that Persa got hurt because we really do want to beat their best and I really do wish the best for him. I don’t think it made any difference in the outcome, though. Credit our defense that came through with 2 straight sacks on Colter, who is actually quicker and more elusive than Persa. Northwestern’s next (and last) drive started at their own 18 yard line, needing 10 points with less than 3 minutes to go. It would have taken a Flutie-type miracle for them to win at that point.
Are you kidding me Joe?
I was on #TeamBolden from day 1 but what the hell else needs to be done for this QB debacle to be settled? Ginger was able to lead a team to 27 points in the first half and 34 over the course of the whole game. Northwestern’s defense may be ok at best, but regardless, Bolden hasn’t done that against anyone. Good, bad or otherwise. Maybe Bolden can be the guy down the road but today he isn’t. There is no shame in the coaching staff admitting it. Maybe if Penn State had started off poorly or was 3-5 instead of 7-1 then sure, play Rob. But that isn’t the case. This team has a legit shot at playing in the Big Ten title game, and McGloin clearly gives this team the best chance to win.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I
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by Adam Collyer on Oct 24, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Specify start position
You can add the following #t=00m18s to your Youtube link to start at a specific time in the video.
Alea iacta est...
Why are people so upset with Joe's QB comments?
Honestly, if you think Joe if going to give a detailed explanation of his future plans then you know absolutely nothing about Penn State football. Why do fans (of all programs) feel that they are owed this? Should Paterno have jumped up and down after the Purdue game and screamed “We’re going to give Green more carries next week!” What if he scripts the first 15 plays and announces them so we know exactly what to expect.
The unpredictability is a big part of watching college football so entertaining. Just watch the game and enjoy the (hopefully pleasant) surprises. Paterno doesn’t owe the media a damn thing. Let them waste their meaningless lives speculating about things that don’t matter once the clock hits 0:00 each Saturday.
And also….WE WON THE GAME.
by Jared Slanina on Oct 24, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Did we......?
wait….WE WON THE GAME
by Artiefufkin10 on Oct 24, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't mean to steal your thunder, just wanted to emphasize that...
…WE WON THE GAME.
by Jared Slanina on Oct 24, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec's all around!
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Not for nothing, but Paterno's interaction with the media is borderline disgraceful to me.
This is going to be extremely unpopular. I don’t particularly like David Jones (for football, he’s an excellent basketball writer) or Bob Flounders either, but Joe Paterno is the head coach of a major college football team and should act like it. There’s no reason for his relationship with the press to be so contentious, and I get tired of defending it. He acted insulted by the idea that he even had to answer questions at a post-game press conference. Especially that question, which is overwhelmingly relevant to the entire season and pretty innocuous. If you have to dance around the answer, then dance, but it’s too condescending to hear Joe go, “We won the game!” as if no one has any right to ask about the decisions he’s paid handsomely to make.
Also, this….
Paterno doesn’t owe the media a damn thing.
…is patently untrue. Paterno owes the media, at least in part, for the life he’s led. College football is covered by the media and it’s how he’s made his living. I love Joe, but come on. “WE WON THE GAME!” is a great BSD meme, but it’s truly obnoxious.
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by Adam Collyer on Oct 24, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Ehh
Who owes whom what for what is all pretty debatable in this day and age. The whole thing is very chicken or egg. No, mom, HE started it!
Joe used to have a very nice relationship with the press, and he’s been pretty candid over the past two decades about the fact that that has changed. Those guys you mention, and plenty others on the PA paper PSU beat, have been just as awful to JoePa over the past ten years. It’s every bit a two-way street.
Could either side take some very easy steps to improve upon the relationship? Absolutely. Do I think it’s hilarious that Joe did not take that step in this presser, instead opting to troll them, creating a new BSD meme in the process? Absolutely.
Hey, come to think of it, wasn’t Ben Jones in that JoePa & The Media class this semester? Maybe he can give us a post on what he learned about their history sometime?
by jtothep on Oct 24, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I respect your opinions and enjoy your posts on BSD
I do see your point. However, the present-day media is such a circus, that I don’t blame any coach for not wanting to deal with the media. The days when the media asks questions that are even remotely relevant to the games are long gone. It’s all about bombastic predictions, and then moving on to the next thing once the game is over. Accountability be damned.
With that, I’ll change my statement to “Paterno doesn’t owe a damn thing to the present-day media.”
by Jared Slanina on Oct 24, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
While I'm at it...
I can’t recall the situation, but I remember a reporter asking him about something that was a huge distraction. Paterno just laughed and said “It’s only a distraction for you guys. It’s not a distraction for our team.”
That’s mainly what I mean about Paterno not owing the media anything. Let them speculate and make a huge story about the QB situation. Apparently it’s not that big of a distraction to the team as it is to us. Why should he say something that could end up being a bigger story? Let him underwhelm the press and focus on how to get this team to 8-1.
by Jared Slanina on Oct 24, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, the word media is instructive.
After all, they by definition mediate between entities, in this case between JoePa and the students, alumni, supporters, and all species of PSU football fans. Thus, he does sort of “owe” the media, but only in the most indirect and secondary way.
Sidebar: As of a few years back you would get dramatically different approval poll results depending on whether you used the term “media” or the word “press.” The media is widely hated while the press is still largely beloved.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
by SubLime on Oct 24, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ehhh
- when the media prepares ‘better’, and by that I mean a bit more creative questions for the coach, ( and I won’t even limit this onto JoePa and PSU ) then IMO less creative answers will be delivered.
JoePa’s style, likes and dislikes are pretty obvious – even to the casual observers … you want a good answer, prepare a good question.
Many times, it’s almost like they’re picking on him – damn well knowing what type of response he’ll give. Respect him – I’m pretty sure he’ll respect you…
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 24, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
THIS! FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS!
I’ll never understand why it’s difficult to come up with interesting questions to ask Joe Paterno.
by jtothep on Oct 25, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Watching Redd run out on to the field
to be the first person to congratulate Greene after that TD was like reason number 1005 why I love that kid.
We are not normal. We are legends.
by NittanyAlum02 on Oct 24, 2011 11:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
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no doubt.
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by skarocksoi on Oct 24, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think I saw
Greene run out and chest bump Redd after the long run prior to that TD. He’s still a good positive influence when not in the game. Great to see
Alea iacta est...
by PSUGuru on Oct 24, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You only have 1005 reasons?
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Did Joe Suhey play?
I know he didn’t touch the ball. Curious to me, since it’s a homecoming of sorts for him…
Rumor he was injured
Too lazy to look it up, but someone in some other thread posted he was rumored to have suffered a stinger.
I get the paper. I go to the bathroom. I take the paper in there and I scan it. I look at it. The first thing I do is look at who died. All right. Second thing I look at are headlines. Something that says, "Paterno is the Greatest," I read it. -JVP
by wek5000lion09 on Oct 24, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe is completely trolling the media.
No more, no less.
There ain't no point deficit can hold my defense down.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 24, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
He trolls them hard. Always has.
Personally, I love it.
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat jNW
by ckmneon on Oct 24, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I find it hilarious.
His press conferences will always be must-see viewing.
by Jared Slanina on Oct 24, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
On a side note
Is Flounders enjoying cutting a big one with a large push or is Dave Jones removing his tongue?
My grammer skills need improved.
Victory is Ours!
(I posted this in the wrong thread earlier)
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