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That's it. There are now several United States senators involved in conference realignment. In related news, I'm done talking about it until something official happens. I'm sorry for getting politics in your football, and here is a token of my appreciation for your understanding.
And of course, since I wrote this last night, the Big 12 decided to actually do something official and invite West Virginia, and West Virginia only. Hopefully this is where we say fin to major conference realignment, and no, that doesn't include the Big East adding the likes of Central Florida and the service academies.
Big changes comin'. The NCAA rolled out several big-to-massive rule changes yesterday. They basically boil down to this:
- Four year scholarships are now back on the table.
- Teams must maintain a 930 APR to be eligible for postseason play. (Penn State's football APR, as of the 2010 report, was 974.)
- Schools can offer $2000 in addition to full scholarships to help meet the full cost of attendance.
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And with WVU's move to the Big XII
come the demise of WVU football in any type of national relevancy. In the Big East they were an annual contender for the conference championship, and as the Big East Champ they’d have a chance to get to a BCS bowl . In the Big XII they become a middle-of-the-pack-also-ran who will never have the recruiting they need to keep up with Oklahoma, OK State, Texas, and Texas Tech. Once every ten years they’ll maybe get to the conference championship and lose. Their chances of getting to a BCS game are pretty much gone since only the conference champion of the Big XII will play in a BCS bowl.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
by RWReese on Oct 28, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agree
I always thought that it would make the most sense for WVU to join the SEC or the ACC, going to the Big XII makes as much sense as TCU joining the Big East (which is no sense at all).
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by Bob Sacamano on Oct 28, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
ACC would be about the only move that makes sense for WVU
except for just staying where they’re at. They’d get eaten alive in the SEC and would be lower than whale crap on the ocean floor. If they stayed in the Big East, which Notre Dame will eventually be joining, they’d be in a much better position to win on a consistent basis.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Notre Dame isn't joining the Big East
Of the existing conference, only the B1G has a chance of landing ND.
by kijana's acl on Oct 28, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinkin' they might opt to go Big East
over B1G IF the Big East stays viable as a conference. It’d be too hard for their football team to compete on a consistent basis in the B1G and they’d more than likely end up never getting to a BCS bowl…too much competition. IN the Big East they’d be a big fish in the small pond, get to a BCS bowl and compete for conference championships. All their other sports are there already. I don’t think they ever want to join the B1G.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Yeah but its about money
And as it sits, they’d be giving up a lucrative NBC deal to play on Wednesday nights in the Big East.
Other than sticking it out as a football independent, the only way they would make even close to the same amount of revenue they do now, would be to join the B1G. Unless they can work in some insane deal that absolutely favors no one in the Big east, Notre Dame wont want a seat at that table. Plus, they’d be giving up Michigan/Michigan State/Purdue and likely USC in favor of…
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by psuphysicist on Oct 28, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
They've probably got a better chance of
keeping their own TV deal and joining the Big East than keeping their own TV deal and joining the B1G. I’d bet the Big East would slobber all over themselves if ND said they’d join so long as they maintain their own TV contracts.
In reality ND wants to stay independent. But, I don’t see them seeing any benefit to joining the B1G…they’d never compete for more than also-ran status in either of the divisions.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
I still they could work around the NBC deal if that were the only problem.
At this point, I really don’t think that money is the issue at all. What does Notre Dame really have left at this point but tradition? Money, but seriously, what else?
I think the Big Ten’s expansion plan is wait out Notre Dame, and when they are ready to go grab Rutgers too. Rutgers in and of itself does not get the Big Ten on cable in NJ and NYC, Rutgers, Notre Dame, coupled with Penn State does. Rutgers isn’t going anywhere we won’t be able to find them, so all we have to do is wait.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Everyone always looks at the ND - B1G from the POV of how
the B1G benefits from ND joining but rarely looks at what are the pluses for ND joining the B1G. There really aren’t any. They’d have to play a harder schedule in the B1G. They would have less chance getting to a BCS bowl. They’d lose their lucrative nation-wide TV coverage more than likely. There really aren’t any good upsides to joining the B1G for ND.
In the Big East they’d probably keep their TV deal, play an easier sched, get to BCS bowls more often. The only other conference that makes sense for them is the PAC-73 or whatever it is now. I think the B1G can wait and wait and ND will never join up.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
They might be losing their TV deal
but they’d be gaining the money from the B1G Network, which is much, much greater than their contract.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
Yeah, that TV Deal is a huge Red Herring.
If Notre Dame doesn’t go to the BCS they get less money from NBC than Northwestern gets from the Big Ten. Moreover, I don’t think that NBC would balk at paying Notre Dame the same amount of money to play a Big Ten schedule than the one they currently play. Finally, if Notre Dame is a valuable commodity, why would ABC complain about getting more of it than they currently have for the exact same price. As to the cash, simple, ND doesn’t share in the BTN or other conference revenue until every other team in the league gets what ND get from NBC. Problem solved, moving on.
That’s before the BTN adds Rutgers and the BTN is on in NYC and New Jersey. That folks will be one valuable property.
Why would ND join the Big East? They’ll make less money than the B1G. They might make be able to keep their NBC deal (they might be able to keep if they join the B1G too) but there is no way that they would be able to keep a disproportionate share of their BCS earnings like they do now. Plus, They’d lose their games with Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue, which they always play. By joining the B1G the USC game certainly survives, as do their other traditional games.
It’s happening. But for silly pride, it be done already.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
They would join the Big East
if it is more about ego than money. They could keep their side deals, have total say over everything the conference does, and still seem like an independent that happens to play a lot of big east teams.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 28, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
UConn, Rutgers, USF, Louisville, Cincinnati. They realistically add, what, Memphis, Temple, UCF and if a miracle occurs, BYU and Boise. It’s about ego and they’re gonna join that crew?
So they can play home and homes with, and get schooled by, Boise State? I doubt it.
At least there is some honor in losing to Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska or Penn State. If they join that league they’d be the laughing stock of college football, and rightfully so,
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
by jesse. on Oct 28, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1
Couldn’t have said it any better myself.
Run.
by Bob Sacamano on Oct 28, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Ain’t nobody that’s anybody, especially ND, joining that Big East. The ship that was the Big East has sailed and now sunk.
And at his home in State College
Joe Paterno enjoys a hearty chuckle.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
Houston's offense is hilarious
F*** IT I’M GOING DEEP on every play. I watched for 10 minutes and I saw at least 8 passes attempted over 30 yards and maybe 5 of them completed. It’s like Rex Grossman died and went to heaven.
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
Yeah but
Case Keenum, in 8 games, has 32 TDs and 3….THREE INTs. Three. THIRTY TWO and THREE. OMG. And a 193 passer rating. I don’t care what conference you play in or what teams you play against…that is sick.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
The only thing sick is what they did to Rice last night
Case and the rest of team played like crap for the first 1 and 1/2 qtrs than decided to run it up so bad in the second half that even Bielema would have been disgusted. That was disgraceful and their coach should be ashamed of himself.
by psuwresfan on Oct 28, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bielema has no conscience and therefore never feels disgusted.
Ever.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
by RWReese on Oct 28, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Apparently Saturday, October 22nd never happened.
You damn well bet anyone would be disgusted after losing like that.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 28, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
True, that is sick...
But you know how Penn State’s thing is plain uniforms, Oregon’s thing is fancy uniforms, Texas’ is being rich, Ohio State has that silly thing their band does, Michigan has hundred year old stolen uniform elements, USC the best sweater seamstresses in the history of recorded man kind, Texas A&M has lunatics, Arkansas/pigs, etc., etc…
Houston’s thing poor sportsmanship in the name of pretty talented quarterbacks running up gaudy numbers while massacring the little sisters of the poor. It doesn’t mean much more than that. It never has and it never will.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
by jesse. on Oct 28, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I thought tOSU's thing is being flaming butt-holes....huh....my mistake.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Houston: Andre Ware.
Nothing more needs to be said on the subject.
Well, David Klingler...
I think he was the quarterback that 92 on SMU. But it actually pre-dates that too. It’s just who they are. And yes, Andre Ware sucks on TV.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
It was Ware who scored 90 something on SMU.
Douchefaces.
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by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to think Klingler helped a little.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
The Ray Graham injury was awful. A few plays before, he made a “sick” move (seemingly cut left in mid-air) to turn a short gain into a fairly large one. Just like our kids, you never want a player to get hurt and lose a year and potentially a crack at some big money in the NFL. The way it happened reminded me of Mauti’s, it just buckled and he was done :-( .
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
West Virginia joining the Big 12 is like Maine and Mississippi seceding together.
I mean, who gives a crap, right?
Oh, the sun shines bright on my Pennsyltucky home.
Also
Since this new league has no geographic sense whatsoever and is built exclusively for temporary sports boon as opposed to academic excellence ala PSU joining the Big Ten, West Virginia will now have to rename itself WEST Virginia just so no one asks why they’re in the league they’re in.
Also, this new conference will fall apart within a decade.
Oh, the sun shines bright on my Pennsyltucky home.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
From Burns Hargis, an Okie State guy who heads the Big 12:
The addition of West Virginia, while expanding the reach of the Big 12, brings an impressive institution with esteemed academics and a proud athletic tradition into the Conference.
(emphasis added)
Wow, straight from The Dr. Josef Goebbels School of Communication.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Well, compared to Oklahoma State University & Auto Diesel School, yeah.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
And Burns Hargis...
The more I’ve thought of it, this guy’s name sounds like some Tennessee Williams creation.
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Texas pledged their TV revenues to the Big 12 for, I believe, the next 6 years
I expect Texas to leave the Big 12 in 4-6 years.
by kijana's acl on Oct 28, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Football around here just got better.
Inside of three hours of my house on any one weekend you could see Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Miami, Florida State, Virginia Tech, or even Penn State. All playing conference games. This year, Penn State had Alabama in town, WVU had LSU, and Pitt had Notre Dame. It’s hard to argue that the quality of teams coming into the area isn’t going to be a lot better with the death of the Big East as we know it.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Amen to getting the Big East Game of the Week
off of WTAE.
Seriously right?
It might have been a messy divorce for eastern football but it looks like we’re all going to land on our feet.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Minus WVU
who will be on the level of Mizzu or Texas Tech. Flashy offenses who occasionally can capitalize on down conference years but will never win anything of significance.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
We'll see.
I think they’ll fare a little better than you think. Plucky bunch those Mountaineers.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
I would like to keep the coastal
Kennebunkport to Portland area. Canada can have pretty much the rest.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 28, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That's because you're a snotty Bostonian.
Admit. It is literally impossible for a Bostonian to not be at least 1/4 snotty.
Maine is a fine state, all of it – and even rednecks (especially primarily) non-racist rednecks) contribute in their own, special way.
Besides, I want the whole coast if we’re giving the rest of the state to Canada.
Oh, the sun shines bright on my Pennsyltucky home.
by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm fine with keeping the entire coast.
But let’s not igore that a lot of Maine is already pretty much Canada. In the winter, people ride around on their snowmobiles and aren’t even sure what country they’re in half the time. That isn’t a knock on it, necessarily. I think Montreal is a terrific city to visit. But we aren’t changing much by letting Canada assume actual control.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Oct 28, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the thing though:
A lot of people in inland Maine are of French stock. And snotty French-Canadians want to be independent because that’s just in their blood, but realize that it would be economic folly to secede. So, if we gave inland Maine to Canada, we would be faced with wrathful Francophone lumberjacks. Not a healthy prospect.
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by ReadingRambler on Oct 28, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Why are we giving anything to the Canadians?
Most of them are already down here anyway in Hollywood and on TV…I’d rather just annex Canada and make it the 51st through 64th states. Canada is like our attic…you forget about it most of the time but every time you go there you find all sorts of good stuff that you could probably put to good use.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
by RWReese on Oct 28, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Didn't the NCAA also change the GPA requirements for eligibility of freshmen to both play and practice?
or am I making that up?
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The good thing about this is that I can watch the other games. I am also happy that I will be able to watch Eric LeGrand lead Rutgers on to the field.
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She is probably not going to come
She was driving up in the am. She is waiting until the morning to decide.
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OT question for people with greater expertise in this area, please help!
Does anyone know where one would go to buy a small wicker basket?
But when I got back, the place I made the purchase no longer exists.
I can't believe I'm answering this....
http://www.luckyclovertrading.com/baskets-c-1.html?gclid=CIa5mMuZjKwCFcx-5QodazU2mw
I got something for my wife there a while ago.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Thanks, but I need it tomorrow.
Also – minimum order $50! That’s a lot of basket.
But when I got back, the place I made the purchase no longer exists.
Michael's.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Somebody gave us one of those really expensive baskets as a housewarming present once.
It was hard for me to hide my outrage, I mean I’d have used a six dollar bottle of wine.
Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.
Do you have a Hobby Lobby in the area?
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by SarcasmJam on Oct 28, 2011 7:24 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions 2 recs
Well, you nailed it.
Rite Aid worked, but if it hadn’t this would have been invaluable. Thanks to all of you.
But when I got back, the place I made the purchase no longer exists.
Also
If you see a dude tucking his way across DC tomorrow, say hi!
But when I got back, the place I made the purchase no longer exists.
Are you doing
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I wasn't, but now yeah probably.
But when I got back, the place I made the purchase no longer exists.
There must be NCAA people who read my internets
I’ve been the lone voice advocating allowing 4 year scholarships as the way to end oversigning for some time now
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
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