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Penn State Ranked 15th In Coaches' Poll, Feeling Giggity In Big Ten Standings

The USA Today Coaches' Poll is out, and Penn State is moving:

9. Nebraska (from 13)

13. Michigan (from 17)

15. Penn State (from 19)

16. Michigan State (from 10)

17. Wisconsin (from 11, and from 4 two weeks ago)

Lou Holtz, for as much hate as he gets on the internet, isn't incapable of saying obvious but insightful things on television.  Yesterday's comment, which could have been about any of the wild matchups involving a ranked team yesterday, said simply "you get a different team every week in college football." And it couldn't be more true.  Unfortunately for Penn State, we seem to get a different set of coaching philosophies also, but the solution to the problem is the same: don't try to understand what you're watching.

Penn State was the seventh-highest vote getter in the Big Ten after week four; they're now the third or fourth best team, depending on who you ask.  The highest ranked team on the conference was Wisconsin, who for a while looked unbeatable...

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...then switched to Michigan State, then to Nebraska.  Unbeatable Wisconsin falls from fourth to 17th in just two weeks.  There are no rules, people.  Anyone can have this thing, it's just a matter of showing up.

Star-divide

And even that's not necessarily required.  Penn State effectively forfeited the second quarter with Rob Bolden taking just about every snap.  I want Bolden to succeed, just like every Penn Stater, but each of the last several weeks the commentators say he looks like a distant second-best option in practice, which is then displayed on the field during live action.  But we don't need four quarters to win in this league, just a fantastic defense.

I mean look at this, folks.  There are no typos in these BCS projections:

BCS Standings projections, Week 10: 1. LSU, 2. Alabama, 3. Oklahoma State, 4. Stanford, 5. Boise State, 6. Oklahoma, 7. Oregon, 8. Arkansas, 9. South Carolina, 10. Virginia Tech, 11. Nebraska, 12. Houston, 13. Michigan, 14. Kansas State, 15. Penn State.

Nebraska, Michigan, Penn State.  Corn, Corn, Pig.  Penn State is the highest ranked team in the division and, even if they falter over the last three games, not to be written off for an at large bid if the wind blows right.  

And so far the wind is blowing oh so right. Big Ten Division Standings:

Pig Division
Penn State 5-0
Ohio State 2-2
Wisconsin 2-2
Purdue 2-2
Illinois 2-3
Indiana 0-5

Corn Division
Nebraska 3-1
Michigan 3-1
Michigan State 3-1
Iowa 2-2
Minnesota 1-3
Northwestern 1-4

That's what we baseball fans call a 2.5 game lead.  It's also called a backloaded schedule.  We suffer though the bye week and then face the leader of the Corn Division (for now), then the top two teams in the Pig Division on the road.

The Roadmap to Indy. So while we shouldn't have any allusions about being able to beat Alabama in a rematch, the optimistic scenario from last week:

And think about this: if Penn State is able to beat Illinois, Nebraska at home and an Ohio State team they seem to match up well against, a Wisconsin loss before the Penn State game renders the finale in Madison irrelevant, which could be an interesting twist on the quarterback rotation end game.

...just became more probable.  Penn State can go 2-1 in any order and the Roadmap to Indy is a Charter Plane to Indy.  And that's assuming Wisconsin doesn't totally pack it in after two devastating losses (Remaining: Purdue, Minn, Illinois, PSU) and that Ohio State's gets nothing but consistency out of a true freshman quarterback and can handle Michigan on the road.

Penn State will take a week off, rest up Moye, switch to a four-quarter game plan, and be just as likely to win the Big Ten as anyone else.  Whoever said being mediocre wasn't fun every once in a while never experienced just how far mediocrity could get you in the right environment. 

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Crazy game

This team is very likable…sort of like an ugly puppy.

Just win baby!

No point in complaining just going to enjoy the games, we only get a few per year…embrace it!

I blame HITS

by SweepTheLeg on Oct 30, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

And into the AP

poll at 21 — behind three two loss teams and a couple of three loss Big 12 outfits.

Exasperating.

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Oct 30, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The AP poll in the link makes absolutely no sense. MSU goes from #15 to #9 after a loss. Also, TAMU goes from #17-#16 after their third loss. Texas Tech loses, be it to powerhouse Iowa State by 34 points, and rises from unranked to #19.

Are we sure this is the “new” poll or last weeks with the outcomes listed. It doesn’t compute!

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 30, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like it might be last weeks standings with the new w-l records after yesterday.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 30, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now it makes sense.

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Oct 30, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t make sense anybody would publish it that way?

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting since Sagarin was pretty high on us earlier in the year.

I’m assuming that’s a function of Bama having a bye, Iowa losing to Minnesota and Purdue losing to Michigan?

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Oct 30, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iowa is trolling us so hard

the losses to ISU and Minnesota, both of which they were winning most of the game, are hurting us bad in the computers.

Using Colley’s play god function (which still has last week’s rankings), adding a PSU win over Illinois (happened), an Iowa win over ISU, an ISU win over Texas Tech (happened), an Iowa win over Minnesota, and removing Iowa’s loss to ISU moves PSU from #15 to #10

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Illinois

by ckmneon on Oct 30, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re about to prove that scrapple is better than anything those far-off Westerners can do with corn. And I love corn.

Tom Bradley for offensive coordinator.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, reply fail, see below.

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 30, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you put anything on your scrapple…like maple syrup, ketchup, salt??

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 30, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

A trash bag and garbage pickup sticker.

"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."

by MainLion on Oct 30, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was kind of cruel…..but funny.

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 30, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a damn thing.

Tom Bradley for offensive coordinator.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Pentimental could do truly magical things with this. Especially with McGloin.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Illinois

by ckmneon on Oct 30, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

McGloin looks like

he just got finished disemboweling someone.

Formerly known as kmart93

Black Shoe Diaries

by Kyle_Martin on Oct 30, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhh, man - '84, you just hit it! Photo caption!

MM: "BARS!, BARS! – TUCK THOSES ARMS IN! YOUR’re SCARING EVERYBODY!!! "

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Oct 30, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just in time for Halloween!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 30, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Did you happen to notice that they are right behind a 2 loss MSU team?

Should tell us all we need to know about how strong the media believes PSU is.

by GMac14 on Oct 30, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Penn State effectively forfeited the second quarter with Rob Bolden taking just about every snap. "

Yeah, and then we forfeited the first and third with McGloin taking snaps.

Here is the problem: The QB question is settled now, but it’s been settled in different directions multiple times in the past. We’ve settled it in favor of McGloin, and we’ve settled it in favor of Bolden. If they didn’t continue to play McGloin despite an even worse game he played against Bama and getting booed off the field even harder than Bolden was yesterday, would he be available now to run the one good drive he did today?

When McGloin was effective vs NW, they left him in. When he was atrocious vs Illinois yesterday, they switched it up. Why is this a problem?

We have two not-quite-mediocre QBs. Both are capable of pulling great fourth-quarter drives off with huge fourth down conversions; both are capable of throwing for 0 yards in a whole quarter’s worth of action.

They’re both going to continue to play. I’m saving my outrage for the use of Beachum when we have Dukes and Green on the bench.

by elefantstn on Oct 30, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Ummm....I was so pro-Bolden earlier in the year...

But my gosh man, the kid is just awful now. Yes. McGloin is bad too, but it’s really not even close anymore because Bolden has regressed so much. He’s a shaken, no make that shatterned man out there. There’s really no use in trying to analyze why he’s that way, the fact is he just is.

Sorry, but there’s no way he directs that 80 yard drive at the end. No freaking way.

I also don’t believe PSU has two “not-quite-mediocre” qbs (mediocre really is not to be modified, by the way…you either are or are not mediocre). PSU has two below average qbs. And that’s a shame because the rest of the team is pretty darn good.

by J Breezy on Oct 30, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have some issues here

First: I agree that McGloin is the better option now. He should start. He should play. But we have been in situations where the performances have been completely reversed; if we had given up on McGloin then, he wouldn’t be available now. Switching it up when McGloin is playing horribly to see if Bolden might do better is not a bad idea. Yesterday, Bolden did not play better and they went back to McGloin. Where is the problem?

Second: We have one other clutch fourth-quarter winning drive this year, it was against Temple, and Bolden led it.

Third: You might as well tell me not to end sentences with prepositions as to not modify ‘mediocre,’ and that’s the sort of thing up with which I will not put.

by elefantstn on Oct 30, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bolden hasn't played better in 4 consecutive games now, and that's the problem with continuing to give im snaps.

Just like Breezy said, the kid is completely broken right now. Whether he did that to himself or the early-season rotation did it is another debate, but we’re seeing the results either way.

For his own good, Bolden should not see another snap this year. He needs to be told “Okay, Rob, you’ve done well, you’ve done what you could, but we’re giving this team to Matt for the rest of the year.” That would be the best thing to happen for Bolden. Take any lingering pressure for him to perform off of his shoulders, and maybe he can right his own personal ship.

It really breaks my heart to see a young player like that, with so much potential, literally falling apart before our eyes.

by psuwxman on Oct 30, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, it's a myth that it's improper to end sentences with a preposition.

The problem with your first point is that in those times that McGloin stunk it up, Bolden did not do much better. He never seized his opportunities.

I’m not thrilled to be defending McGloin because I still think he’s not a very good qb, but his worst outing was against ‘Bama. That’s arguably the top team in the country so I can cut him SOME slack there (but he was soooo putrid that I can’t let ‘Bama explain it all away). Bolden has stunk it up against…well, just about everyone. Yes he led the 4th qtr drive against almighty Temple. Call me crazy, but I’m more impressed with yesterday’s 4th qtr drive in awful weather against a better team.

I really wish Bolden could put it together. I’ve been hoping all year that he would. I think he has more upside than McGloin. But it’s now obvious that it’s just not going to happen. He’s getting worse, not better.

by J Breezy on Oct 30, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bolden did not do much better

Are you shitting me? If you put me in at quarterback, I wouldn’t throw interceptions. I would get sacked on every play and fumble. Bolden has to improve to throw interceptions.

I don’t want to bury the kid, but the Bolden crowd needs to help out and stop making excuses for him.

Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.

by jesse. on Oct 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is the Bolden crowd?

And where are the excuses?

I’m in the “let’s not put all our eggs in the basket that threw 5 picks in the bowl game” crowd. McGloin is better, but not good.

by elefantstn on Oct 30, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I don't want to bury the kid.

But he played so poorly yesterday that they could a pulled a kid out of the stands to the same effect.

Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.

by jesse. on Oct 30, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Taylor for starting quarterback!

Seriously!

Tom Bradley for offensive coordinator.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, screw that.

Ed Ruth for starting quarterback! 717!

Tom Bradley for offensive coordinator.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, no.

I’m not looking to write negative things about Rob, but like I said above, people need to stop advocating for him. I’m sorry that everybody who wanted him to be better was wrong, but they were, and they need to deal with it. It’s really not that big a deal.

I think that Rob is going to be a good player at some point. I honestly do, and I’ve said as much several times. But right now, this is over, and it needs to stop, I don’t think the ongoing debate helps Rob at all.

Yeah, I get it. Our plan is to show up with our fantastic defense and let the chips fall where they may.

by jesse. on Oct 31, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

1. How we are still having discussions like this one is beyond me.

2. Not playing Bolden for an entire quarter when it’s clear he’s unable to even get passes off does not preclude him from ever playing quarterback again for Penn State, nor does it make him a worse option if the team ever needs him down the road. If anything leaving him in there to waste several possessions in a row only made him worse off in the long run.

One thing that’s pretty baffling here is the idea that you have to get snaps in real games to get better. Plenty of football players at a lot of different levels have been able to make progress in practice, which is what practice is for.

by Kevin Powers on Oct 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This line of discussion is now officially like arguing over whether the earth is flat or not. The answer is so patently obvious that the argument has ceased to be productive, and I refuse to partake in it anymore.

by mushdamma on Oct 30, 2011 9:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was wanting the coaches to get him out of the game

because I was scared the kid was going to get himself killed. He was holding the ball far too long. Each time there was a free rusher I was yelling, “Throw it, throw it, thro…OOOOHHHHHHHHH” as he got smeared.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Oct 31, 2011 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re-read what I wrote before that.

“…in those times that McGloin stunk it up…” – that’s mainly the ’Bama game. Bolden certainly did better in that game, but like I said, not by much.

by J Breezy on Oct 30, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Temple's defense is statistically better than Illinois'

More to the point, we shouldn’t have to watch clutch fourth-quarter drives when the defense gives up 7 or 10 points total, and turns the opposition ball over 4+ times.

Here is my point: The question is settled now. But it’s been settled before. Why are we sure this is the time we’re right, and McGloin will be better for the rest of the season?

by elefantstn on Oct 30, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know how you can watch Bolden

and not see the flaming wreckage of what was once his psyche and confidence. He is broken, a shell of his former self. It’s not doing anyone any good, himself or the team, for him to continue to get meaningful snaps. He needs to be completely unplugged from whatever “competition” there is going on right now between him and McGloin.

McGloin is not the long-term answer, and he is not a good quarterback, but he’s all this team has got right now. For better or worse.

by psuwxman on Oct 30, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree it stinks to need 4th qtr drives in the situation you described.

I’m tired of that, too. And I’m also tired of reading about how “good” Temple is to aid in propping up PSU. I said it in a thread a week or two after the Temple game when a lot on here were talking up the Owls – I don’t want to hang my hat on a win over Temple.

We don’t know McGloin will be better the rest of the season, but Bolden has performed so horribly as for that theory to not even be put to the test. He’s done nothing the past few weeks to merit any more chances.

by J Breezy on Oct 30, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Temple isn't that great

But we can’t hang our hats on wins over Illinois either.

by elefantstn on Oct 30, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

"He’s done nothing the past few weeks to merit any more chances."

I think this is what it comes down to for me. McGloin’s performance in the bowl game merited no more chances, but we don’t have a good option, so we had to keep giving him more chances. These guys are both bad. It’s not like we lost Kerry Collins in the second quarter; we lost a guy who completed at a 33% clip for under 100 yards, a pick, and no TDs for the game.

by elefantstn on Oct 30, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s delusional to think, after watching Bolden for his first four plays yesterday, that he would magically turn into Carson Palmer if he could only get five or six more snaps. Like I mention in the post, even the announcers, who are getting to watch practice before these games, are making it very clear Bolden is way, way behind at this point.

Why are we sure this is the time we’re right, and McGloin will be better for the rest of the season?

There are only three games left in the season, the gap is wider now than it’s ever been, and putting Bolden in to do what he did on Saturday is hurting the teams ability to win, period. Why not wait until Bolden proves in practice that he’s a better option, wait until McGloin performs in a way that warrants him being pulled (I’d argue he wasn’t anywhere near that line on Saturday), and then do this. It’s self-handicapping.

by Kevin Powers on Oct 30, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

First of all, he already did magically turn into Carson Palmer

And again, the last time we settled on a guy and stuck with him, he turned a winnable bowl game into his own personal nightmare.

As bad as the QB situation is here, I don’t think 4/12 in the first quarter is the kind of performance that should have us begging for more.

And for the love of God do not respond to this post in a way that intimates I thought Bolden outperformed McGloin yesterday. He was clearly worse.

by elefantstn on Oct 30, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what is the answer at QB?

Don’t keep us in suspense . . . .

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 30, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think the team will win more games if they keep putting Bolden in like they did on Saturday. I don’t. That’s what I’m responding to.

by Kevin Powers on Oct 30, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ Truf!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 30, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude...

Weather played a part. Bolden has been consistently aiming for dirt (not paydirt, but literally pegging Mother Earth with his passes). McGloin isn’t great, but he is more of a threat in the passing game, which will keep people honest and open up space for Silas, which is all our QB needs to do.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Oct 30, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bolden

looks like he went to the Donovan McNabb School of Pegging the Open Receiver in the Feet with the Ball.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Oct 31, 2011 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

Your “modification” of “mediocre” is perfectly acceptable. It’s not like you said someone was “very” mediocre, or “more” mediocre than someone else. You said that these two entities were “not quite” mediocre, which is acceptable. As J Breezy points out, “mediocrity” is something you either are or are not (like “unique,” a more commonly mismodified term), and your comment implied that they were not mediocre.

I kind of hate myself for having written this.

by tuscaloosalion on Oct 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't hate yourself.

I thank you for educating me. I was wrong. Thanks for having the “very unique” guts to point that out!

by J Breezy on Oct 30, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love you for having written this

Eases my anxiety for having written similar things, in a peer-sharing sort of way.

by jtothep on Oct 31, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My other issue is where everyone is laying it all at McGloin's play but what about the play of the WRs?

They did their fair share of drops. The had to put Moye into the game because the WRs were having a hard time finding the handle? Could McGloin have played better…sure. WOuld it have been different if the WRs were using stickum? You bet.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Oct 30, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ This,

Ironically, Brown had two good catches on the last drive, when he had dropped some easier catches earlier in the game.

Just goes to show how fragile team chemistry can be. That’s the only way I can explain why the O responds to McGloin and not Bolden, why Moye gave the O an emotional uplift, etc.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 30, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

EXACTLY

when the announcers are saying that a QB’s throws are right on the money and that the QB’s stats will reflect an incomplete, but don’t take into account the fact that the ball was thrown perfectly but the WR didn’t execute, and said announcers are, at the very least, NOT good, it’s saying something.

//run-on’ed

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Oct 30, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those two announcers BLEW!

Seriously. I hate both of them with the fire of 10 suns. Brock Huard should be drug out into the street and shot. What a smug little man he is. Ugh. As somebody said, made me miss Pam Ward and that thought alone makes me want to bathe in bleach.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Oct 31, 2011 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm resigned to life with McGloin

But that statement about forfeiting the second bothered me as well. He was terrible. So was McGloin, for far longer. Absent a gift pass interference call, nobody is celebrating McGloin’s shitastic afternoon.

by kijana's acl on Oct 30, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

I’m not at all big on McGloin, but I thought the pass on 4th down was pretty good (although it shocked me that he would make that pass on 4th…I thought they should go for something underneath to get the 1st). And the PI call I thought was legit. So did the refs….two of them threw flags on it at the same time. I think it’s a TD if the d-back didn’t interfere with Moye.

I too am resigned to a season of McGloin. I’m not happy about it, but sadly there is no viable alternative.

by J Breezy on Oct 30, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a perfectly thrown ball. Two ref’s called it PI and it was clear that Moye could not get his one arm up. The only bad thing (at the time) was it wasn’t the pro rule where we got it on the one yard line. I was still skeptical that we could score a TD. Great drive!

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 30, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If anyone can get one, there is a great endzone camea view.

The PI is so completely clear it would have been complete travesty not to call it. I was at the game, directly across the field from the play and it looked like Moye got held but still could have made the catch. The endzone view I saw yesterday, not sure where, showed the corner grab Moye’s arm, jersey anything he could get a hold of. Both refs immediately threw flags before the end of the play. It was not a close call at all.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Oct 31, 2011 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

And it wasn’t as if one ref threw his and the other then threw his in support. They both threw them at the same time. Both saw it from different angles. I noticed it immediately live on TV and replay confirmed it. That was not a gift PI in any way.

by J Breezy on Oct 31, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Greatest obvious-yet-insightful Lou Holtz quote

“To win a national championship, you don’t have to be the best team in the country every week; you have to be the best team in the stadium every week.”

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Illinois

by ckmneon on Oct 30, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I believe that's a Decapod.

If I remember correctly from my reading of Set Up Running, the PRR crews somewhat disliked the Decapods. They got the job done well but they were hard as hell on crews. Seems fitting.

Tom Bradley for offensive coordinator.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Home-made in Altoona, baby...

And without a trailing truck it would have been a rough ride. So yeah, rough rides for free courtesy of the PSU D.

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Oct 30, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Brandon Ware in the back of that bus?

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.

by ckmneon on Oct 30, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Is it just me...

Or does it look like Sheelhaase was going to bit McGloin? Or am I watching too many horror movies these days?

by AriesGD on Oct 30, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Silas Redd

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Oct 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Joe Paterno:

Old and out-of-touch, my arse.

Tom Bradley for offensive coordinator.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jay could only now fake his own death so he could

write a column tweet teach Bolden how make a documentary about it.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.

by ckmneon on Oct 30, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just started giggling uncontrollably at this

so hard I had to explain the above series of pics to my family, and then this one. They are still giving me odd looks.

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Oct 30, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah.

Tom Bradley for offensive coordinator.

by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfectly executed.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Oct 30, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Oct 30, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

BCS Standings are in.

Rank #16

A plateau is a high form of flattery.

by Assorted Fruit on Oct 30, 2011 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

68' and 69'

I was a student during those years. Like Yogi said “it’s deja vu all aver again.” During those years qb Chuck Burkhart couln’t run or throw he just won. It was the stellar defense that won the games. There was a least one game in each of those years where we had to pull it our out of our arse in the final minutes.

McGloin should start the remainder of the season. No matter how bad things looks he keeps chucking the ball and occasionally good things happen. String a few good things together and we get a touchdown. I don’t see this happening with Bolden. Something has gone wrong with Bolden. His heart isn’t in it any more. Next year we will have Paul Jones in the mix. He will have had 3 spring practices and 2 years running the scout team and learning the playbook. Maturity wise he will be the equivalent to a junior but with sophomore eligibility. More importantly, he has not had his confidence crushed.

by ageing lion on Oct 30, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

And one, the Orange Bowl, we needed an extra play to win (though Kansas clearly had 12 men on the field).

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Oct 30, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha! Been thinking along the same lines

Can you imagine if Chuck Burkhart played in the Age of the Internet? U. G. L. Y.

by jtothep on Oct 31, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I graduated in 84

but was in State College until 1988. 1985 and 1986 were similar to 68 and 69. John Shaffer didn’t have the greatest skill set, but he knew how to lead a team. I’ve said since before the season began that, with the skill at the other positions, we just needed a good game manager at QB. I still believe that.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Oct 30, 2011 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I understand..

Where “Corn” comes from but…
Where does “Pig” come from?

Oh and why isn’t OU getting penalized after losing at home to a Texas Tech team that just got blasted by Iowa State 41-7 or something like that ?? Huh ?

by TonyLion on Oct 31, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

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