Penn State Depth Chart & Injury Report: Nebraska
by Mike Pettigano on Nov 11, 2011 1:01 PM EST
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TE Garry Gilliam - knee - out
DE Pete Massaro - knee - out
LB Michael Mauti - knee - out
RB Pat Zerbe - knee - out
Notes: Derek Moye will be officially back this week. So there's that. Oh yeah, and you could lump in the emotional/mental injury this entire university is battling this week and the foreseeable future.
Moving on.
Coaching Changes
I'm trying to be cute with putting Tom Bradley up there as head coach. It should also be mentioned, if you didn't already know this (it's not the most important thing you're following this week), Larry Johnson, Sr. and Ron Vanderlinden will be co-defensive coordinators. Grad assistant Elijah Robinson will be a full-time coach starting this week. And Terrell Golden will assume Mike McQueary's duties relaying plays and whatnot. McQueary won't be at the game, following threats received.
Penn State Depth Chart
Ehh...
Did I miss anything? Not that it matters. Go enjoy the football game.
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NU vs PSU
PSU offense and especially the run game should be productive against the Nebraska defense considering the numerous players that are out among the defensive front for Nebraska. Just too many guys out and it hurt lasst week late when this defensive line got tired against NW on final drive. Husker defensive front is missing 3 regular players in the DT rotation. J. Crick, T. Randle (Crick’s replacement) C. Rome ( Randle replacement) are all out.
DE Meredith moving inside to help DT depth. Will be surprised if PSU can’t run at will, especially late. And that helps play action. Martinez and Nebraska will score, but not enough. Martinez is near 70% completion past 4 games. And playing well. People get too enamored withhis funky delivery and ignore the fact that given time, theball usually gets to the target, especially last 4 games. Expect it to continue.
We had a similar issue last year with our defensive line and linbackers.
Tough for the run support to be strong when you keep losing guys.
Martinez has a funky delivery, but like Tebow and (to a lesser extent) Phil Rives before him, the ball gets where it needs to go. Your option game allows for receivers to be open because there is so much focus on the pass. I’d expect you to score about 10 points early as our guys get used to playing the option again. Once they adjust, it usually bodes well for us.
But seriously, who knows what’s going to happen here? Part of me feels a blowout one way or the other. I’m just thankful to talk football for a minute or two.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Nov 11, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Blowout indeed.
Not sure which side.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Nov 11, 2011 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just want to watch football, drink beer, not think, and see Nebraska lose.
I’m drained. I haven’t been checking in here too much…just once a day or so. I just hope the team stays focused, plays with intensity, and wins. I hope the fans keep it classy. I hope the trolls stay home. I hope the announcers focus on the game and leave the scandal mostly out of their comments. I wish Scrap well!
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
by RWReese on Nov 11, 2011 1:24 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
I think so.
Wonder if it’s Scrap’s doing. No more illusion of 2 QB system…
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Moving on
It will be interesting to see the energy level the players bring. I don’t know how good nebraskas defense is but I hope McGloin is on. In a normal year psu typically plays well on senior day.
by JRM397 on Nov 11, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure if this had been discussed before
But several ESPN heads are now suggesting PSU football get the death penalty. Apparently firing Paterno wasn’t enough.
Who? And why?
What possible reasoning could there be for that?
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Nov 11, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
I've seen it floated around as well.
Punishes the wrong people, IMO.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 11, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
The death penalty was used once, and only once, to deter schools from systematically cheating in football, because when they were caught cheating before, the punishment wasn’t a deterrent from repeating the actions.
In this instance, there is already a pretty strong social & legal deterrent system preventing from other schools repeating “this” (doesn’t feel right to boil the mess down to a word), so the idea that you need to give PSU the death penalty is, well chose your own word to fill in here.
My advice, just turn that shit off.
by Kevin Powers on Nov 11, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Agreed
People are just moving on to the next target. I GUARANTEE you that if Penn State’s football program got the death penalty that the media would just ask for ALL athletics to be cut.
After that, they’d be asking that the school be shut down. Then State College would be razed. Then the state of Pennsylvania would be asked to leave the union. Then the entire eastern seaboard would secede. Then the entire U.S. would be asked to dissolve.
by cjapsu on Nov 11, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Indeed
Escalation is the name of the game.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Nov 11, 2011 3:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Some idiot actually said to me
“PSU should be shut down. I mean, who would want to be associated with that school now?” Plenty of people bitch! So shut it! She’s lucky we were at work. I’m quickly tiring of having to defend myself.
by lexi1031 on Nov 11, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Where is Rambler?
He has to be around for a talk about states leaving the union!
by archerbullseye on Nov 11, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
I need to correct myself for poor word choice
It was not suggested they receive the death penalty from the NCAA, but rather that the University should shut down the program themselves.
Anyway, Derrick Brooks was arguing ti on First Take this morning. And I have no idea who Lester Munson is, but he has a very poorly informed article that can be found here
Wow, I must have been half asleep still when I turned that on
Just saw the clip again and it wasn’t Brooks, it was Jon Ritchie. I don’t even know how I made that mistake.
The fact it’s Ritchie might make it worse.
I don't think it can be in play..
If I remember correctly from The 30 for 30 on SMU, the death penalty is reserved for repeat offender status. Despite what any future NCAA investigation may prove of NCAA violations, PSU is definately not a repeat offender.
On Moye's return-
Dad- "Captian Moye. Love it. A Todd Moules moment"
Me-"Not Todd Moules- Marco Rivera coming into the Illinois game in 94- solidified the line, sparked the comeback"
Dad- "Moye for President"
by NEPA_Lions on Nov 11, 2011 2:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just another example
Of pundits fanning flames to keep the intensity up from the media firestorm. You can’t be on TV at this point if you are not being outlandish (looking at you Switzer). But really it can’t happen by the current guidelines
On Moye's return-
Dad- "Captian Moye. Love it. A Todd Moules moment"
Me-"Not Todd Moules- Marco Rivera coming into the Illinois game in 94- solidified the line, sparked the comeback"
Dad- "Moye for President"
by NEPA_Lions on Nov 11, 2011 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I could see the B1G members stepping up for us if that even became a possibility...
Without PSU, the B1G loses $$$$.
Every sonuvabitch on ESPN over the past few days has been just totally irrational about the entire situation. Rece Davis is the only one that I have not imagined choking.
I hope PSU wins by 65 and the players, effectively and with class, tell the reporters to kiss their ass during post game interviews.
by rodney20 on Nov 11, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Agree
- z e r o interviews
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Nov 11, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Death penalty is an NCAA response to
NCAA infractions. No NCAA rules were broken. This is a civil/criminal matter.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Is NCAA action or even not attending a bowl a legitimate possibility?
I don’t think the BoT would willingly give up the revenue unless the scandal goes deeper into the coverup side than we’ve seen so far. I am concerned though that sponsors will back out of bowl games if we’re invited. Our best chance is the Rose Bowl automatic berth, but if that happened we’d get even more attention and pressure to not attend. Damned if we lose, damned if we win.
I think by the time the bowls roll around people will be able to appropriately compartmentalize the innocent players from the guilty parties. Or at least I hope so.
by Kevin Powers on Nov 11, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed
Could you imagine being anybody on this team and having to go through this situation? And then you make it to a bowl game (heck, even a potential BCS game) and have the chance to get away from SC and just enjoy time somewhere else, only to find out that the BOT or somebody else takes that away from you? The kids on the team have had to endure a lot, to take that away would be even worse.
by GMac14 on Nov 11, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Any sponsor that backs away from this team now
will be remembered in a not so fond fashion when I make future purchasing decisions.
by PSU Mudder on Nov 11, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So far we just have cars.com
Which I never used, nor planned to, anyways.
Any others?
keep a list
Maybe we should keep a list of any sponsors that back out; though I can’t completely blame them for doing so.
Liberty Mutual is out too
They cut the sponsored post on Wednesday
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PSU Death Penalty? Not so fast my friend...
I googled that first phrase worried of what I would find and followed the first link:
I think you’ll find that it’s a lot of nonsense.
Giving PSU the death penalty...
For the remainder of this season screws up the whole Conference no? It leaves OSU and Wiscy a game short. Seems like its punishing teams for issues not of their making.
I don't think they're suggesting they cut the program this year
Although if you want to argue semantics, the Penn State football team (i.e. the players on the roster) didn’t make this issue either.
There goes my donation to his foundation.
Speak once you have all the Facts Heath. As a Patriots fan, that just pisses me off even more.
I can't help but wonder if that has been discussed in a conference room at ESPN as a "goal".
See, ESPN? I can toss crap out there too, without any support.
Here’s another one. ESPN wants Penn State out of the B1G so that Notre Dame gets the invite and NBC loses their college football presence. If that means a coordinated campaign to destroy a university, 50,000 students, and 100 innocent football players, so be it.
/ESPNed
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody else surprised...
….that since the media has taken up the cudgel against McQueary after they crushed Joepa into the dust that he wasn’t fired after the Board meeting today?
My guess
is that because of previously noted (not in this thread) legal implications – if the BOT ‘fired’ McQ – and thinking that his current ‘status’ as not only ‘credible’, but a witness; and thus leading to a later potential suit of McQ v PSU for ‘unlawful termination’ (note: I am not a lawyer, so work with me here) is what kept them from firing.
However; I’m guess that the BOT went back and forth on the pro’s and con’s of firing him, and came up with ‘we can’t’ but we have to fire JVP (read: media) and ‘damned if we do … ’ cause and effect. Further, if you agree with this potential rational/vetting; then they probably also considered the potential that McQ could quit – and for many obvious reasons. And they probably hoped for that so they didn’t have to send him an letter as well…
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Nov 11, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
93.7 just reported that Sandusky was in South Carolina last spring
on a recruiting visit and, obviously, it was with th blessing of Joe Paterno. Not hearing this anywehere, but these asshats on The Fan are claiming that is OBVIOUS that Joe Paterno sent him.
Not speaking from "real" knowledge
But wouldn’t that be a recruiting violation
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
Wouldn't the kid be too old for Sandusky anyways?
We’re not actively recruiting 10 year olds to my knowledge…
/bad taste joke
That's Lane Kiffin's thing
Didn’t he offer an 8th grader while at Tenn?
Correct me if I am wrong
but that article just states Sandusky was there… it has nothing about PSU sending him there (even unofficially) or expressing interest in the kid.
Exactly. That's what I thought, too.
93.7 The Fan (in Pgh) is taking this story and presenting it as if Joe Paterno, himself, sent him down to SC on a recruiting visit.
Credibility is no longer applicable.
Make up the allegations and run with it. After a day of frenzy, true or not won’t even matter. Fame will come.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Spats
I would just stop listening to that station for awhile.. They have been twisting the facts since last thursday and its not going to be getting any better anytime soon. Sadly i used to enjoy listning to Chris on the way home from work.. That wont be happening soon if ever.
by archerbullseye on Nov 11, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
You're right
But I do have to wonder why he was at that game, and if the kid is being recruited by PSU. I can’t really think of a good reason for him to go to a spring game in South Carolina, and talk to a top LB prospect unless a college had something to do with it.
I follow recruiting and never heard this kids name before
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Nov 11, 2011 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ben tweeted a little while ago
that this kid’s AD said that the reports of Sandusky recruiting him were false and untrue. He said the kid made it up. Can you believe that?
Game Cast links other than ESPN
I’ll be traveling during most of the game, but will have access to internet at times. Do either of you know any good game cast sties? I liked ESPN’s version, but am trying my best to avoid visiting their site.
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"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
by RWReese on Nov 11, 2011 3:58 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Interim President Press Conference
I saw that one’s coming up on ESPN… anyone know what it’s about?
by cjapsu on Nov 11, 2011 4:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That's because of who he was.
The BoT wanted him out so bad before so now they had there chance and they are running with it now.
This came up during the press conference
The spokesman – forget his name – said no, but a bald dude over his right shoulder smirked when the question of whether the BoT was simply seizing an opportunity to do something that they had wanted to do for 10 years or more.
by kijana's acl on Nov 11, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I caught that too
The question asked was (and I’m paraphrasing) "What do you say to the allegations that you’ve wanted Paterno out for years and this has given you the opportunity to do so.
Surma responded that he had no idea what they were talking about (really? you forgetting about the time everyone went to his house to convince him to retire?). One of the guys behind him kinda shook his head half asses, and another got this smug little grin on his face.
I would love the eventual investigation
To show that the firing was unjustified and JoePa gets to sue their asses for it!
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
by RWReese on Nov 11, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know he wouldn't really
But they’d deserve it if he did…dirty rat bastards that the BOT are.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Sue them...
Then donate the proceeds to some “deserving” cause. Wouldn’t surprise me he’d give it to Penn State.
Trouble is, the MSM would never mention it.
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
why would he need to wait?
Isnt what they did wrongful termination due to the fact that he did his legal duty?
by archerbullseye on Nov 11, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
question....
can the charges against sandusky stand for the ten year old in the shower if they can’t find the victim to press charges against Sandusky?
Also, how can they even prove any of this without some sort of evidence?
If they can’t prove that anything happened other than McQueary’s statement does that mean they can still convict him on what McQueary says, without the victim?
i'm buzzed
and i’m no legal expert
but that 23 page devilscript on the attorney general website lists 8 victims. i think 8 against one is good odds
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
right..
were there any other victims on campus? there was that one and the one with the janitor…neither can be proven without the victim, so i don’t think those charges can stand without them…that’s why the AG had a big news conference..no victims, can you still charge/convict?
This is the problem with vulturistic journalism, the giger effect, let’s let due process happen and then condemn them or let’s tar and feather them like they do in Arkansas
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