Report: PSU Trustees Contacted Virginia's Mike London BEFORE Firing Paterno
by Chris Grovich on Nov 11, 2011 4:09 PM EST
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From Steve Yanda, at the Washington Post's Cavaliers Journal:
Steve A. Garban, chairman of Penn State’s Board of Trustees, reached out to gauge Virginia Coach Mike London’s interest in succeeding Joe Paterno on Wednesday, before the board announced the firing of the Nittany Lions’ longtime coach, according to a person with direct knowledge of the situation.
The person, who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, said London has no interest in leaving Virginia and declined the overture. In fact, the person said, London would prefer to sign an extension to remain with the Cavaliers beyond the terms of his current five-year contract, which expires Dec. 7, 2014.
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Ehhh
Unless they’re already settling, this sounds like a pimp piece for London getting a better contract. Unless we’ve already approached 20+ other coaches (including multiple assistants), I doubt this.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Nov 11, 2011 4:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Doesn't make sense to me.
But very little this week has made sense. What honorable coach would jump ship mid-season? And unless we were total jerks about it, we’d have to go through UVA’s AD, and what AD wouldn’t simply say, “Wait until the end of the season?” (assuming he granted permission at all).
BoT were total jerks to one gentleman...
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Nov 11, 2011 4:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's a good young coach and has poached a few of our recruits.
Assuming the report is true (and I’ll put a “Report:” in the headline above), it’s distressing that the BOT would do this before resolving the Paterno situation, and that we’re starting the coaching search with Mike London.
However, as someone on Twitter noted, it would at least be a good sign that we’re not confining ourselves to the Golden / Schiano / Ferentz realm.
by Chris Grovich on Nov 11, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kirk Ferenz is a candidate?
I’d be surprised if the Board pursued him; there was an issue with a sexual assault at Iowa a few years ago that Ferentz was allegedly involved in helping to cover up.
Ferentz is a name that has come up for the past decade whenever this has been discussed
with varying degrees of desire amongst the fanbase. And yeah, the sexual assault issue Iowa had a few years back would definitely sorta rule him out now.
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
Jesus H
It’s a effin’ epidemic!!!!
/reacting like the media
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
Kirk Ferentz? No.
We’ve punted enough already.
Everyone lost.
Black Shoe Diaries
@runthedive
by Peter Gray on Nov 11, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Not that he shouldn’t be considered, but I’m taking any source who says “he has no interest in leaving Virginia” with a grain of salt.
Agree with this second part, although if you assume for a second this is true, I’m also going to assume this was one of about 20 calls they made within the same hour.
by Kevin Powers on Nov 11, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Was this
while they were waiting for Joe to call them back?
/what a joke the BoT is
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
This
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Nov 11, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I think I know where the head coach search is heading...
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
The BOT is holding a press conference to announce that a reservation for two has been made at the Corner Room...
A pandemic of cowardice sweeps the nation.
He's got too much baggage
they’ll be looking for someone to help get rid of at least one of our bags.
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
We have baggage, he has baggage, we hate ESPN, we hate Craig James
and quite frankly, I want to see someone who is different from the traditional football coach mold.
It’s never going to happen, but I can always wish upon a star…
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 11, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
for bringing me back to a magical time when crickets could sing.
by 3deepfrustrated on Nov 11, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Leach got hosed. He WOULD restore Penn State to ethical and football prominence. He's a good man (except for being a lawyer.)
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
I agree that he's a solid dude who didn't do anything wrong that we know of
But seriously? He’s defensively apathetic at best and runs a shiny offense that crumbles against anything approaching a solid defense. Should we look into RichRod too?
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
Al Golden would fit that mold
But he’s not even gonna be asked. Guilt by association.
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
Depends on how much you value Grosz, but he made the affirmation days ago that there was contact with Golden as well
by OmarLittle on Nov 11, 2011 5:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He'd lock any baggage
in a closet. No way it gets out.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
Do not want
I understand that it was at Big 12 Indiana, but we’re talking about a guy who had gimmicky, mediocre football teams outside of the Michael Crabtree era
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
I love Leach
I think he’s a fascinating guy that runs extremely entertaining football teams. However, I think I like him more when I can observe it from a safe distance.
Everyone lost.
Black Shoe Diaries
@runthedive
by Peter Gray on Nov 11, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
#MikeLeach4Temple
They have ports in Philadelphia. He can manage.
by Chris Grovich on Nov 11, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
was that a pirate reference?
Otherwise I don’t get the joke.
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 11, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Aaarghh!
"That Craig James gets such prominent assignments remains a mystery on the D.B. Cooper scale."
Richard Deitsch on Craig James, who allegedly killed 5 hookers while at SMU.
by Pete the Streak on Nov 11, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
The Dread Pirate Leach would run North Philly
by Chris Grovich on Nov 11, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Personal experience?
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
#OccupyESPN
And it would guarantee we would never lose to Temple
We take this crazy thing called defense seriously. Or at least with more than scorn
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
So the BoT hand picks the president from 'within'
You think the next PSU head coach will be from ‘within’?
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
I’m starting to get tired of these people.
"General Lee, I have no football team."
by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2011 4:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Watch Bad Boys II
Learn the meaning of “Wooosaaa.” I’ve had to say it a lot in the past week.
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
"McQueary placed on leave"
The blood-letting continues.
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
you're forgetting
a “source with direct knowledge” says Mike London was the first one asked
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
A source with direct knowledge
says that Tony Dungy was the second one asked.
/that source was my cat.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
My cat said they were going to offer the job to Mao.
He did run a nice spread offense for a couple years with the Reds, but probably not a controversy free hire.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the media would approve
so the BOT will probably consider it
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
I like to keep my NFL and my college football separate
I never really bought that Dungy was all that great of a coach. Having Peyton Manning in his prime covers up a lot of blemishes, as we’re now seeing with Jim Caldwell. Also, the Colts defense was never particularly good under Dungy, even though he’s a defensive coach.
Beyond that, I have a couple personal reasons for not caring much for him, but I don’t think this is the best forum for laying them out.
Everyone lost.
Black Shoe Diaries
@runthedive
I do not want him, ever . . .
. . . because what I’m guessing are your personal reasons.
by BurrowesBldg on Nov 11, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
I suspect that I can accurately guess those personal reasons...
… and if they are what I think they are, I concur with you.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
He brings baggage.
10/9/11 - the day the music died.
by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 11, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Next coach
When replacing a legend (and yes he is still a legend) like Joe Paterno a lot of times you get your Zooker before you get your Urban Meyer. I would not be surprised if we end up with a meh coach for the next couple years. Personally I will find it really hard to watch PSU football next year if there is no Paterno tie (which is likely IMO). If it was up to me PSU stays grounded to its roots which is very much JVP. Though I was not for this while he was at Temple…….Al Golden has shown he has what it takes to deal with a very bad situation at U of M and get that program on the right track. The media and HS coaches alike are raving about him in S. Florida right now and Mark D coming in as D. Coordinator……will help him to ensure that PSU remains Linebacker U. I wouldn’t think twice about offering him the keys right now.
May the JVP way......success with honor forever be the Penn State way.
he has been my ultimate choice as successor for several years
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
I'd be great with Golden too
I think most people would.
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
I would love for it to happen too
but I think the BoT has a very different agenda
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
BoT Agenda
“Destroy everything that Paterno ever touched, because he’s clearly the bad guy here and that’s what the media wants, and they always [ed: have they ever?] have PSU’s best interest at heart.”
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
by ckmneon on Nov 11, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Tom Bradley is the best person currently available for the job.
But we (and I mean the fanbase too) is too stupid for this.
The Grand Experiment will never die.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
we is
Damn, just damn, Rambler
The Grand Experiment will never die.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
PENN STATE
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
by GoodOleDays on Nov 11, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would be fine with Bradley
As long as he somehow isn’t wrapped up in this whole scandal. (i.e. hearing about things, etc.) In that case he would be part of the “cleaning house”. There isn’t anything out there that has made it sound like he is at this point, but this week has made me think that anything is possible.
by mundyscorner99 on Nov 11, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone suggested that this might have been why
all of those coaches were interviewing for other jobs earlier this year?
I thought this was a joke on stupidity.
You should have gone in that direction with it.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Nov 11, 2011 4:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm telling you, I think Bad Boys II would do you a lot of good
and I agree
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
Meh. This is the only popular culture thing that currently summarizes my opinion:
Oh my God, what have they done to the town I loved so well?
The Grand Experiment will never die.
by ReadingRambler on Nov 11, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Songs that have summarized my feelings, opinions, and observations
Most of these fall into alt / synth pop, not outlaw country, so you’ll just have to bear with me
“No Surprises” by Radiohead
“Panic” by The Smiths
“Wrong” and “Policy of Truth” by Depeche Mode
“Lost Cause” by Beck
“Take it Easy (Love Nothing)” by Bright Eyes
“Punching in a Dream” by the Naked and Famous
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
by ckmneon on Nov 11, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Never have loved Bradley
But I would be ok with him now given that I do believe the agenda of the BOT is to destroy all things Paterno. I could not endorse his candidacy if he kept McQ around though! SHOW HIS ASS THE F*ING DOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May the JVP way......success with honor forever be the Penn State way.
It's being reported that Red may have whistleblower status
If that is true, they can’t fire him.
Saw this.....but it begs the question why is JVP not protected as well?
“Gerald J. Williams, a partner at a Philadelphia law firm, said Pennsylvania law is broad in protecting a person who reports wrongdoing, as long as that person is part of a governmental or quasi-governmental institution, such as Penn State. "
There is no debate that Joe Paterno reported wrongdoing and was part of Penn State.
May the JVP way......success with honor forever be the Penn State way.
I had the same question
I came up with 2 possible reasons.
1. Maybe he somehow isn’t considered a whistle-blower because he’s didn’t witness anything firsthand
2. He is protected, but the BOT knew that Joe wouldn’t ever sue the school. McQueary on the other hand, might.
Since the Washington Post is now publishing completely made up shit
I too have no interest in the PSU head football coach position. I am quite happy with my company and hope to stay here another 5+ years. Just thought I’d get that out there.
by kijana's acl on Nov 11, 2011 4:52 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Agree
I’m much more interested in getting a raise at my current job than accepting an interview for the HC position.
by Kevin Powers on Nov 11, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
My 2 Cents...
(1) against my better judgement, I’m going to go out on a small limb and conclude this story is BS. Not that the BOT isn’t capable of such irresponsible banter…but rather, who, with an ounce of PR acumen, would further enflame this situation by demonstrating our (institution) primary concern is seeking the HC replacement. Color me realistic…
(2) I cannot imagine us identifying a long term/outside the PSU family HC for the immediate future (1-3 yrs). It would not surprise me if we retained Scrap for the time being. One HUGE caveat – as long as the investigation does not implicate either he and/or other staff. Yes, the entire staff will probably be gone by season’s end…but…he may be the best option.
Am I crazy?
by Batwing on Nov 11, 2011 4:52 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I agree
but if you were crazy, you’d have to be batshit crazy, right?
by kijana's acl on Nov 11, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Priorities
(1) Stay away from NFL coaches – especially position coaches (see e.g. Tim Brewster).
(2) Stay away from anyone currently on the payroll (we don’t want further allegations to surface and replay this catastrophe in the future).
(3) Stay away from any Penn State coaches – let’s get something that actually resembles an offense.
(4) Get someone with head coaching experience somewhere else – and has won.
My lawyer friend here at Duke
just read me an e-mail from a lady who used to work for him here, but who is now at State (she is a State grad). E-mail read that the entire coaching staff is gone at the end of the season. WTH good does that do?!?!?!?!?!?!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Read my bit on the BoT agenda above
I actually believe that they believe this
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
Have to clean house
They all have to go! Having been part of Paterno’s staff for so long is a detriment here. The arrogant culture that allowed this coverup to happen must be swept from Haluba Hall to beaver Stadium. Why leave anyone who could even be questioned as to what they did or did not know? Makes no sense. We must rebuild from the ground up.
To be honest...
If Edsall were still at Connecticut and wasn’t busy torpedoing Maryland’s program, he’d be the guy the Board would want. Basically a military-type guy. No ties to anything at the university. He’d be their guy to bring in as the sacrificial lamb for two years. If he won, maybe he gets an extension. If he loses, the hire was “do no harm” and then they can start a real coaching search.
Mike Sullivan from the Giants?
Ken Niumatalolo from Navy?
Steve Addazio from Temple?
Sullivan? I’m sure we can do better
Niumatalolo? Solid coach, but he’s got a good thing going, not sure he would leave Navy
Addazio? No 10,000 times
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
Not sure he would leave Navy for PSU?
I’m sure he would walk to State College for that job. Scandal or not.
by kijana's acl on Nov 11, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
funny enough, didn't Dechellis do the exact opposite?
We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.
by mikeissurreal on Nov 11, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
I like Niumatalolo a lot
But I don’t think running the option at a school like Penn State is a good way to maximize the kind of talent that will be available.
Everyone lost.
Black Shoe Diaries
@runthedive
I agree with this
But I do think 1)he’s a very solid coach and 2)he enjoys the extremely high “pay-to-pressure-to-win” ratio he has at Navy
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
Hypothetically speaking...
If Penn State drops from 5’s and 4’s to 3’s and 2’s, running the option with a Penn State defense might not be the worst idea.
I suspect that Niumatalolo could develop a more conventional running game, too.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a UConn fan and like Edsall
but for the sake of our uniforms, I’m glad he’s not a candidate.
Penn Stater, lawyer, and loyal to Joe Paterno until the day I die.
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 11, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
That's an Under Armor thing, not an Edsall thing.
As a Maryland fan, I am extremely disappointed with Edsall. He has needlessly antagonized players and some of the alumni season ticket holders are upset about how he gets in players’ faces during games and absolutely tears them a new one screaming.
I couldn’t care less about the wins or losses. He’s disgracing the university. He’s also throw some players under the bus in the media.
The guys I named above were coaches that I thought could bring some of the “military toughness” that Edsall brings and will have the character needed. They’re also not necessarily long-term solutions. Whoever the coach is next year is going to have a nightmare on his (or her) hands. It’s going to be brutal and maybe a “rebound coach” isn’t the worst idea.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
eh
They’ve played (relatively) well the last few weeks, but early on in the season they were arguably the worst 1A team. Never forget: they got their internal organs fed to them by Indiana State
Unless you’re being sarcastic
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
Nope - not sarcastic
I’m trying to think like the Bot might be thinkin’. Priority 1 – get somebody to help diffuse the current situation. You think they care if we win another football game?
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
Sorry folks, but Pat Fitzgerald will not leave Northwestern
I believe we’re paying him somewhere north of a million a year. He loves his alma mater. We’re going to do some serious work on our facilities (which need work).
by LincolnParkWildcat on Nov 11, 2011 5:26 PM EST reply actions
Has anyone mentioned him on this thread?
There’s a reason
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
by ckmneon on Nov 11, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like Fitzgerald.
He seems like a really good guy, and I think a decent coach. I’m sure he’ll stay at Northwestern. No one in this thread mentioned his name to my knowledge.
I thought about him when I was thinking of guys who often look like they're trying to pass gas on the sidelines
Maybe LincolnParkWildcat read my mind?
by kijana's acl on Nov 11, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
After his team scores?
Like he just farted and everybody is blaming on the guy next to him.
When his team is playing poorly? Like my son when I put him in timeout.
by kijana's acl on Nov 11, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Gruden?
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
#OccupyESPN
One ginger coach is proving to be more than enough
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
hahahaha
fitz is quite animated on the sidelines
by LincolnParkWildcat on Nov 11, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
on another note
think this week, considering all that’s happened, the students will be able to put aside tailgating til the last minute/ sleeping in and get to the stadium early enough so that place is packed at noon? i’d hope that this of all weeks would be the one where they do it
The more important question is...
Who in their right mind would want the PSU job? Under these circumstances? Is there anyone brave enough to come into this environment? With the burden of “saving” the program?
It’s a tall order, one that only a superhero would take. Where’s Batman? Or Captain America? ;-)
NOT Batman!!!
I was always a little worried about him and Robin (an androgynous name) running around in short-shorts and tights. Not the image we need right now . . .
(An attempt at levity, folks; don’t tase me, bro!)
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 11, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
How would Iron Man suit you? No tights in sight! ;-)
by michellemtsu on Nov 11, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Iron Man would be cool,
as long as they coat him with Teflon once a week. Don’t want this crap sticking to him.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 11, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if anyone else has posted this...
ESPN’s internal review has an article: “”http://espn.go.com/blog/poynterreview/post/_/id/168/espn-stumbles-with-penn-state-coverage" target="new">ESPN stumbles with Penn State coverage"
If you think that’s because ESPN is trying to atone for its spectacularly awful and inappropriate coverage, you’re wrong.
Meanwhile, the tone of the early ESPN coverage was spotty — sometimes getting it right, but more often seeming inappropriate. It wasn’t until mid-afternoon Tuesday that ESPN finally seemed consistently to ask the right questions and find the appropriate moral outrage. That’s 72 hours after the story first broke.
Outside the Lines" got it right on Tuesday afternoon, particularly with the participation of ESPN.com writer Howard Bryant, who had written a scathing column.
Neither seemed prepared. McKendry’s questions were indirect and non-specific. And Millen himself was understandably still working through the implications of charges. He started by defending Paterno’s job and cautioning folks to withhold judgment of the legendary coach. Pressed by McKendry, Millen meandered, eventually choking up and acknowledging that if the charges are true, this is a massive moral failure.
We don’t fault Millen — particularly not for a very human show of emotion. Rather, he was the wrong person to have on the set at the time. It wasn’t until “College GameDay” analyst Kirk Herbstreit joined “SportsCenter” in the afternoon that anyone on the air could fully articulate the appropriate hard-hitting questions and moral outrage.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Penn State is still in reactionary mode.
1. Mike will coach on Saturday, either on the sideline or in the booth.
2. Mike will be in the booth for his own safety.
3. Mike will not coach on Saturday due to threats made against him.
4. Mike is being placed on paid administrative leave.
I know it’s a tough situation, but damn. Somebody take the lead and get a plan together.
Gallows humor.
Front page of PennLive has an article titled “Penn State Could Be Sued”.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
Tomorrow's headline today
“Sandusky may not be popular with prison population”
by kijana's acl on Nov 11, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
TITANTIC SINKS!
We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.
by mikeissurreal on Nov 11, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
LOL.
On a sad note, I read a report that someone threw pieces of cinder block through Sandusky’s window last night. He deserves whatever the law can do with him, but vigilante b.s. And I’m damn sure Dottie doesn’t deserve that. Can’t imagine what she is going through.
I'm sorry if the comment / question is inappropriate...
… but I noticed that Dottie isn’t mentioned in the grand jury indictment for testimony.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
I think he might be VERY popular with prisoners
Who are serial killers who also have young sons at home.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
The fact that they even called London at all is appalling
It actually gives credibility to the thought that the BOT really might have been using this as a way to finally remove Joe. At the very least it shows a greater level of incompetence and a complete failure in how the situation was handled. Finding a new football coach is the absolute last thing they need to do. That they looked for that before dealing with things such as Curley and Schultz’ fate is perfectly in line with how they’ve handled this whole mess.
It's been said before but...
This will be a Communications/PR seminar someday. How NOT to handle a crisis.
by michellemtsu on Nov 11, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
And by someday, you mean next semester.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
It's like the board got together when these allegations first hit
And said, hey, lets try to make this as bad as we possibly can.
Every decision that’s made seems to be the worst one possible.
by ppfcpp on Nov 11, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rick Perry's had a better week than the Board of Trustees...
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight.
I just can’t possibly imagine what the scene is going to be tomorrow, or especially my feelings of seeing Penn State run onto the field with that little bastardized ESPN logo on the screen.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think that theory is credible.
To them, I think the only bright spot in this whole horrible mess is that it gave them an excuse to get rid of Joe.
As for contacting London…well, “The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight” strikes again!
I have a feeling...
that whoever they hire, it will be done relatively quickly. But that’s just like my opinion man.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
by EREX21 on Nov 11, 2011 7:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
there's a beverage here!!!!
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
by hbeach08 on Nov 11, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec's all around
because I like the dude’s style.
It takes courage to stand behind someone you believe in when it’s this bad outside. It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you. - JoePo on JoePa
So Penn State's first choice for a replacement coach is a mediocre-to-bad ACC coach
And he DECLINED?
If the Sandusky thing is an 11 on the the shame scale, this has got to be at least a 6, even if it’s not true.
I had that in sarcasm font at first. But I’m not sure it’s necessary.
Penn Stater, lawyer, and loyal to Joe Paterno until the day I die.
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 11, 2011 7:13 PM EST reply actions
I'll bet
They will do everything in their power to 1. Find someone who never had anything to do with PSU football or Paternoster and 2. Is preferably a minority so they look as good as they possibly can in the public eye.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
by RWReese on Nov 11, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
F'n auto correct
Paterno, not Paternoster. $&?!@
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Hey, RW, Happy Vets Day to ya, man!
To think we gave up blood, sweat, and tears for this shit. Almost makes me wish I would’ve burned my brother’s draft card and my HS girlfriend’s bra. (I was too young for the draft, and getting her bra off would have been nice . . . . )
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 11, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Never to late to call her up and ask if she's game.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
She's a dear, but not that kind of game, Tez.
Besides, my bride of 32 years might look askance at me making that call.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 11, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
32 Years?
Congratz man. I assumed you were younger due to the 84.. But I guess that could be your class year or something else.. I read too much into names anyway..
by archerbullseye on Nov 11, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Archer, I'm old -- 53.
84 is my class year at State — I attended after four years in the Army. I say 32 years, but that’s not official until next Thu — hope I survive until then. This crisis has rocked my world . . .
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 11, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
84, it has rocked everyone with an affiliation to PSU
whether a grad or a relative
i’m with you brother
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
Thanks, 08,
and I’m sure your close affiliation with Penn State football has made this even harder for you.
“What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.” — we are putting that to the test this week.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 11, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
no one can deal with this properly
who could?
it’s been a mix of shock, depression and reflexive humor for me…and none of its working. i’d like to think the game tomorrow will help.
i gotta be honest, Obama’s comments were soothing. whether you like his game or not…it’s amazing what a polished speaker with the world’s best PR machine behind him can do for you
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
Well, I mean, you could ask your wife if it's okay to relive the past.
Please videotape and post for our entertainment; we need it.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
She's the one who "suggested" I make amends by telling you guys
about my 32 years of wedded bliss. She is reading some of the BSD threads while I’m posting.
GREAT write-up about your Penn State experiences, Tez. I told the wife, “It seems that EVERY post I’ve read from fans of other teams has been supportive of us and Penn State.” I shed a few tears over what you wrote — not too proud to admit that. Thank you very much!!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 11, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
A couple years ago...
I was at a wine tasting in with my family (right before my parents split). I was wearing a Penn State hat. As I’m walking through this incredibly crowded area, I hear someone shout, “We are!” and my dad and I turn and respond, “Penn State!” like it was planned. There was a Penn State alumni group there and they invited us to sit with them. We chatted for a bit and exchanged some emails.
The next year, they invited us to all go to the tasting with them. I politely explained that my parents had split and I no longer had a relationship with my dad, who was the Penn Stater among us. They answered that didn’t matter, I was still in the Penn State family.
You don’t get that every day.
The national media may think that the Penn State experience is a sham… that it’s mythology, or a guilding on top of this horrible core. Screw ‘em. Penn State’s family.
by Tezcatlipoca on Nov 11, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Clearly
1. Mike London sent out this rumor to make himself sound cool
2. If this is who our BOT is considering, we are royally fucked.
But clearly this is a hoax.
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 11, 2011 11:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Since we're in the mood to slime on ESPN...
You guys should go after Tim Tebow.
\V/ for Villanova
by dees ees en drama on Nov 12, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
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