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ZOOOOOOOK. It was rumored earlier this week that Ron Zook is going to be out at the end of the year at Illinois. Honestly, it makes sense, as the bottom has completely fallen out on this team, and it's not like he's built up a ton of goodwill over the years. So naturally, Zook was asked about it at his weekly press conference, and he didn't take it so well. Thankfully, we have the transcript.

Ole Miss is doing just fine, thank you. The Rebels are playing LSU this week, and if that wasn't bad enough, they'll be without their starting quarterback Randall Mackey and leading rusher Jeff Scott due to suspension. In related news, Archie Manning has been appointed to a committee to find the next football coach there, and naturally, he's been asked by fans to hire...

Peyton Manning

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It's cool, guys. Urban Meyer isn't going to Arizona.

Synergy! From the SBN mothership, we have: The AlphabeticalThe Numerical, and bowl projections.

GO TO THIS. #2 Penn State is hosting #4 Minnesota in wrestling at noon on Sunday at Rec Hall. GO GO GO GO GO.

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Wrestling, very nice

Minny travels to Ithaca on Friday night to take on Cornell, before coming to Rec Hall on Sunday. Meet begins at 6:30p and Flo is reportedly running free streaming video. We’ll see what kind of quality…

I’d guess Galen might have a PSU Minny preview coming up, but here are the lineups for both the Minny/Cornell meet and ours as a jump start. *Exception: Minnesota super-frosh Logan Storley injury defaulted in their tourney last weekend and is a likely no-go this weekend.

125 #2 Zach Sanders vs. #8 Frank Perreli
133 #7 David Thorn vs. #18 Joe Stanzione
141 #10 Nick Dardanes vs. #12 Chris Villalonga/Mike Nevinger
149 #6 Dylan Ness vs. #20 Craig Eifert
157 #8 Jake Deitchler vs. #1 Kyle Dake
165 #8 Cody Yohn vs. #18 Marshall Peppelman
174 #10 Logan Storley vs. Billy George/Mike Alexander
184 #6 Kevin Steinhaus vs. #4 Steve Bozak
197 #2 Sonny Yohn vs. #1 Cam Simaz
HWT #4 Tony Nelson vs. Jace Bennet/Stryker Lane/Jacob Aiken-Phillips
 
Sunday, sunday, sunday matchups:
125: #18 Nico Megaludis (PSU) vs. #2 Zachary Sanders (UM)
133: Derek Reber (PSU) vs.#7 David Thorn (UM)
141: Sam Sherlock (PSU) vs. #10 Nick Dardanes (UM)
149:#1 Frank Molinaro (PSU) vs. #5 Dylan Ness (UM)
157: #11 Dylan Alton (PSU vs. #9 Jake Deitchler (UM)
165: #1 David Tayor vs. #8 Cody Yohn (UM)
174: #2 Edward Ruth (PSU) vs. #9 Logan Storley (UM)
184: #1 Quentin Wright (PSU) vs. #6 Kevin Steinhaus (UM)
197: #10 Morgan McIntosh (PSU) vs. #2 Sonny Yohn (UM)
285: #4 Cameron Wade (PSU) vs. #3 Anthony Nelson (UM)

Interesting note plucked from FOS commenter Tom:
There are only 2 weights where the same guys wrestle each other this year that did so last year—184 and Hwt. Last year they each wrestled their opponent 3 times:

184 Wright lost 10-1 (dual), won 4-3 (B1G finals), and won 8-4 (NCAA 2nd round)
Hwt Wade won 2-0 (dual), lost 3-0 (B1G semis), and won 4-1 (NCAA 2nd round)

Both of those are key match-ups and last year we won 2 out of 3 at each weight.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 12:24 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Really wish I was in SC this weekend

That’s gonna be one heck of a dual meet. BTN will suffice.

Thanks for the Minny-Cornell tip, I’ll have to stream that for sure

by OmarLittle on Nov 16, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I may have missed it

You know in the swirl of other events of the past week, but didn’t the qrestling team start out ranked #1, and then beat their only opponent of the year?

So how did they drop to #2, and who is the new #1?

And ys I know it 1. doesn’t matter, and 2. I could probably look it up.

I am a Penn State Nittany Lion, and I played for the legendary Joe Paterno, and more importantly, I am a man because of it. - Lavar Arrington

by LegalLion on Nov 16, 2011 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

Lots of different rankings sites

Galen & Peter may have used different ones, just a guess.

The Penn State Wrestling Club’s site, has a page dedicated to rankings here. It’s got a chart of our individual wrestler’s rankings and links to the ranking sites’ pages.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Our current 133 pounder, Reber is unranked and is likely not who will represent us beginning in January. When Frankie Martellotti comes back and wrestles a few matches, he may move into some systems’ rankings.

Obviously, a lot of wrestling will take place between now and nationals, but we are right up there ready to compete with Iowa & Oklahoma State for another national championship.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good point, too

Also, a few of them don’t rank true freshmen (GAH’s The Wrestling Report), til they wrestle their first match.

In any event, we’re certainly going to learn a lot about our new guys on Sunday.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Minny sure has an extremely tough dual lineup

everybody ranked. this is going to be fun to watch. I think I’m going to try to go to the West Virginia match with the grandson. saw they had 6000 for Bloomsburg, freakin amazing. last year for Lock Haven, the first match when I took my grandson, there was only 3500. We did go to Illinois too which was a 6000 + match but I got tickets early. Lock Haven we walked up, don’t think that will happen this year.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Nov 16, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed.

No last minute ’Hey – wanna go watch the match?" stuff anymore.

What the hell just happened?

by Pete the Streak on Nov 16, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, our squad, this early isn't built for success here

I think we can win, but not sure we will. Def won’t if either Cam or Q drop.

Super curious about Nico & Sanders, a SR, 3x AA. Sounds like they have the same skillsets tho: creating movement off their motors.

Lots, lots to watch for up and down this matchup.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i think Nico can pull this out

hope Reber and Sherlock can stay away from giving up bonus. Thought Reber would have a better showing against Bloomsburg. Cael said he was really nervous, though

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Nov 16, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a tip for those going home to family for Thanksgiving

if they start giving you shit about PSU, send them to the RAINN link to donate and tell them to “sack up and do something with their moral indignation”. I think I might just get cards made or something for the occasion.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 16, 2011 12:39 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Fingers crossed

That the Zookers rally this weekend.

by FB6244 on Nov 16, 2011 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

For real

I want Zook to stay at Illinois FOREVER.

I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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by Peter Gray on Nov 16, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

A PSU win over OSU and an Illinois win would make the PSU-Wisconsin game meaningless

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

GO ILLINI!

Let's go State

Beat Wisconsin!

by jman07 on Nov 16, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Knowing the Illini

They’ll beat Wisconsin by 20. Then lose to Minnesota by 30 next week. You know this is going to happen.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 16, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be an extremely Ron Zook thing to do

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

threadjack: may have been mentioned somewhere

Dave Joyner has been named acting athletic director

he was the guy sitting in the last row over the speaker’s left shoulder in last week’s press conference FYI

he is also a former football player and wrestler

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

oh, and this was a university press release

not something I heard

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm with ya man

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I will add this as an aside;

you don’t get to be head football coach at Penn State, or a member of the Board of Trustees, or President, or any position of real authority like that without pissing a good many people off. These guys have all done “things” on their respective paths to the top I’m sure. Assaulting kids, covering it up, maybe not, but no one in that position is without enemies IMO.

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

A great point for a lot of people to remember, on both sides of the debate.

No one that attains as high a position as some of these key players gets there without some skeletons in the closet. The vast majority of skeletons are on the level of “I did not inhale” but some are clearly worse than others.

by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 16, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That's illegal

and immoral! LOL!

No matter what you think about the current situation, support the players, they deserve our respect.

by Paige2PSU on Nov 16, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

With you, word for word
the BOT’s actions have left me a little queasy, but speaking form a personal standpoint, prior to all this, the dude is A+++

My mom went to school with him and I grew up with the highest regards. He’s also been a huge donor to the wrestling program.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

Yeah, my life would’ve been a little different if I had been Dave Joyner’s kid.

Instead, I’ve got all this Johnstown blood in me.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Johnstown blood?

That statement brings up a flood of emotions within me

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 16, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

For a flood reference.

Nearly yearly trips to the museums mean it’s probably the historical event I know the most about.

It takes courage to stand behind someone you believe in when it’s this bad outside. It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you. - JoePo on JoePa

by nylyst on Nov 16, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

My favorite factoid to drop on people

is that Johnstown used to have over 100,000 residents and now it has like 20,000. Its like Mini-Me Detroit

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 16, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Shame of it is

The flood, although devastating, wasn’t what killed the town. It was the mills and mines in the area closing.

As for flood info, I’m always impressed that the stone bridge, where all the debris clogged up and caught fire, is still standing.

It takes courage to stand behind someone you believe in when it’s this bad outside. It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you. - JoePo on JoePa

by nylyst on Nov 16, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

A pretty useless monopoly property

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Suck it, Buckeye.

The PRR did more for your state than you will ever know.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

and Western PA would still be in the dark ages without John D Rock

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong-o

We were already making steel before that guy.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I shouldn't say we though.

I milk cows.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not going to get into this

John D Rockefeller wasn’t directly involved in the steel industry, but probably did more for it than anyone else ever.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

No, you're going to get into this.

You’d better think about justifying your assertions before you diss these two:


The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Without Rockefeller's contributions to the petroleum industry

Both the energy and carbon used in the mining of iron and manufacture of steel would have been between 10 and 100 times as expensive, vastly reducing the marginal profitability of steel manufacturing over farming.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps.

But without the Pennsylvania Railroad, you wouldn’t even have anything but river transportation in Ohio. No joke. I have nothing to back this up, and the NYC actually went there first, but I don’t care.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you be forgetting about this little thing called Lake Erie

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Not if it freezes over.

The Pennsylvania Railroad is capable of anything.

But, seriously, the PRR could defeat any terrain or use it to the company’s advantage.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 16, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Thinking the same thing

Tangents upon tangents……

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Nov 16, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you get my reply email?

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Went to a wedding in..

Johnstown. Got blasted at Scottie’s by the Dam (it’s next to the dam) and bought $1 hot dogs at some store downtown. Fun time, but heck of a long drive back to Philly.

11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 16, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Coney Island hot dogs

that place has literally not changed at all since 1970

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 16, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

that’s the place. Good times.

11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 16, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Small world

Grew up in Seward and went to LV.

Also, according to my father, related to Frank Solich

It takes courage to stand behind someone you believe in when it’s this bad outside. It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you. - JoePo on JoePa

by nylyst on Nov 16, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha, I'm from Cambria County

Thank goodness my town is the county seat and not Johnstown.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 16, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

I think I’d rather be related to Solich than have Ebensburg as home… 8P

It takes courage to stand behind someone you believe in when it’s this bad outside. It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you. - JoePo on JoePa

by nylyst on Nov 16, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Solich grew up in Cleveland though

and no one likes that place.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 16, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Hehe

Didn’t know that.

Huh, learn something new every day. I was always under the impression he came out of the Johnstown area, as I know he has relatives there (my father’s sister married a relative of his, cousin I believe)

Oh and totally agree on Cleveland, despite what Drew Carey might think.

It takes courage to stand behind someone you believe in when it’s this bad outside. It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you. - JoePo on JoePa

by nylyst on Nov 16, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand that he was born in J-town but raised in Cleveland

So he has Johnstown blood like Jtot or Tom Bradley. I don’t have Jtown blood, per se, but my great grandparents might have bootlegged for Jtown mobsters in the 20’s…allegedly

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 16, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting

Seems like a regular journey to grow up in that area and end up out east.

If I could find a decent job back there, I’d love to move back, just not many opportunities.

It takes courage to stand behind someone you believe in when it’s this bad outside. It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you. - JoePo on JoePa

by nylyst on Nov 16, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’d love to find an employer that would be flexible with telecommuting.

Most software development positions though, they want you on site most of the time.

My brother has lucked out in the pharma industry and had job after job where he might not be in the office but a few times a year, and he’s moved back twice because he could. Once while working out of CT and now out of OH.

It takes courage to stand behind someone you believe in when it’s this bad outside. It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you. - JoePo on JoePa

by nylyst on Nov 16, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a member of the BoT.

So whatever.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that he is

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasnt there a rumor

that he was basically belittled by another BoT member in their meeting for being a former football player under Joe?

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by skarocksoi on Nov 16, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

can't keep track of all the rumors

hadn’t heard that

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Board getting their hands on a lot

Taking over the athletic department. Doing their own investigation into what really happened at PSU. Seems like they want to control what goes on on campus now and what information now gets out to the public.

Follow my antics: @DanVecellio

Its the name on the front of the jersey that matters most, not the one on the back. -Joe Paterno

by Dan Vecellio on Nov 16, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not against the board per se.

I refuse to believe that the forty-something person board is made up entirely of bad or evil people. Which is why I don’t have a problem with Joyner taking over, especially if what hbeach says above is true (academic AA, doctor, etc.).

by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 16, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Also one HELLA All-American player. Offensive line.

Screw with him at your own risk.

What the hell just happened?

by Pete the Streak on Nov 16, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, I know!

Hbeach IS Dave Joyner (rumor starts).

No matter what you think about the current situation, support the players, they deserve our respect.

by Paige2PSU on Nov 16, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it sucks

That a guy who sits on the BOT and seemingly threw Paterno under the bus without facts would be the AD.

Should have hired Franco Harris.

by FB6244 on Nov 16, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He's the 'interim' AD

Nothing permanent yet.

We should give him a chance.

What the hell just happened?

by Pete the Streak on Nov 16, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I see no interim mention in what I read...could be though

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa.; November 16, 2011 — David M. Joyner has been named acting athletic director for Penn State, effective immediately. Joyner, a Penn State Distinguished Alumnus and a member of the Board of Trustees since 2000, will suspend his membership on the board to take on his new role.
“Dave Joyner has served the board with integrity, and he is internationally known for his work with the U.S. Olympic Committee. I am confident that he will bring that same integrity to his new role,” said Penn State President Rodney Erickson.
Mark Sherburne has returned to his duties as associate athletic director.
“I would like to thank Mark for filling this leadership role when asked last week. I am grateful for his willingness to do what was needed to move us forward. Now, as he returns to his regular duties, we look for his continued leadership in that role,” Erickson said.

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I see that now

thanks

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

so Sherburne was the "acting-interim AD"

and Joyner is semi-“acting”

I can’t keep track!!!

:)

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd for culling comments

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Culling makes me think

of the old John Wayne movie, McLintock:

Cuthbert H. Humphrey, Governor of our territory, is a cull.

Let's go State

Beat Wisconsin!

by jman07 on Nov 16, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd bet this, the latter

I can picture him wanting to serve the university during time of crisis, but not being interested in a perm position.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

true, believe it or not

as you may attest given your personal experience…PSU AD is kinda “beneath” him, no?

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Nov 16, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe?

Let’s go to the Bio! Looks a little overqualified for Athletic Director, doesn’t it?

Corporate Medical Director and Partner of Occupational Athletics Inc.

Dr. David Joyner received his B.S. in Science from Penn State in 1972 and his M.D. from Penn State’s College of Medicine in 1976. Following residencies in general and orthopedic surgery at The Milton S. Hershey Medical Center and a brief stint in the World Football League, Dr. Joyner began a medical career with a sports medicine emphasis.

Dr. Joyner is a health care and business consultant as well as an orthopedic physician.

Dr. Joyner is a member of Penn State Libraries Development Advisory Board, Co-Chairman, Paterno Libraries Endowment, Chairman of the External Advisory Board for the Schreyer Institute for Teaching Excellence and the Schreyer Honors College, member of the Board of Directors of The Milton S. Hershey Medical Center, member of the Hershey Medical Center Capital Campaign Committee and was active in the Grand Destiny Campaign for Athletics. Dr. Joyner was honored as a Distinguished Alumnus of Penn State in 1992.

Dr. Joyner is on the Pennsylvania Governor’s Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. He is a former Chairman of the United States Olympic Sports Medicine Committee and is a member of the American Orthopedic Society for Sports Medicine.

Dr. Joyner was elected to the Board of Trustees for a three-year term beginning July 2000 and has been reelected for succeeding terms.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Found it!

I knew I had written about him earlier this year, but had trouble with the sbn search.

Here’s a more thorough interview with Joyner from ‘some time ago,’ to paraphrase myself (/Stoltz’d) where you can see more details of his awesome career, including this quote from former wrestling coach Rich Lorenzo:

I was an assistant coach for the team through Dave’s career here. He was one of the most mentally tough people that I’ve ever been around. He also had great focus and intensity and a fantastic work ethic. Unfortunately, he was always working at a disadvantage in that he never had a full season. We usually didn’t get him until January because of his football commitments. The NCAA Tournament was in early March, so this didn’t leave Dave much time to get his conditioning and timing down. One year, however, he was able to start practice with us in December; that was the year Penn State didn’t go to a bowl game (1970). As soon as football ended he came right out and hit the mats. He also ran up and down Mt. Nittany everyday. That year he went all the way to the National finals, where he barely lost. That was his junior year and his senior year he had an especially short season as Penn State not only went to a bowl game, but Dave was selected to play in the Hula Bowl (all-star game) after that. It was just too short of a season. He still made it to the National quarterfinals, however.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Thought this paragraph was funny:

Dave has continued his high acheivement level since graduating from Penn State. He graduated from the Milton S. Hershey Medical School in 1976. While a medical student he was class treasurer, was appointed by the President of the University to the University Disciplinary Review Board and was recepient of the Gilbert Nurick Award for outstanding academic achievement and service to the College of Medicine. He is now a very successful physican practicing orthopedic medicine. He also has remained active in athletics; he completed several marathons including the New York City Marathon and is a fifth degree Black Belt instructor in Manasyu and Kendo karate. He is also director of the World Kum-do (Japanese Sword) Association.
Of course he was a director of a Japanese Sword Association!

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He is...

the most interesting man in the world.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 16, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry but

I am not willing to do that.

by FB6244 on Nov 16, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Not until I find out who the smirker was

The guy who chuckled during the press conference when the (reasonable) question was asked relating to whether the BoT was simply using this crisis as a convenient excuse to do something (remove Joe) that they had wanted to do for years.

One guy, to the right of the BoT spokesperson, chuckled and gave that fox in the henhouse look (aka the “Tressle”). Until he’s gone, they’re all guilty in my eyes.

by kijana's acl on Nov 16, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I thought about this guy too

they guy to the right (as you were looking at him) of Shurmur or whatever his name was. Looked like a smug prick.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 16, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

+1, for commitment

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

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by IcersGuy on Nov 16, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

eh

I cut a few corners, since The Smirker appears to have been a male, and left off the BoT ladies.

Plus, now the guilt will set in—the one about how I’ve used my time. I could make a case (that wouldn’t be terribly earnest and probably would be pretty damn sloppy) that if we’re going to rebuild PSU as an institution of transparency, we can start by getting to know the folks on the board of trustees.

But I’m also pretty certain that a few minutes of picture-pasting didn’t do a damn thing to make the world safer for our children.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop it.
But I’m also pretty certain that a few minutes of picture-pasting didn’t do a damn thing to make the world safer for our children.

Getting to know the trustees may not help the children, but holding people to transparency will help the cause of justice as a whole.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Ok

Obviously, I’m still trying to reconcile energy with purpose with language with the core issue that started all this shite.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

This is 100% un-PC,

but I think it’s the guy directly below the second black guy. Definitely had glasses on, kinda looked like a turtle. But some of these photos are so old and not everyone wears their glasses in every photo, so I can’t be certain.

by kijana's acl on Nov 16, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

If using Firefox

Right-click, then reg-click View Image Info, to see the last name.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

No dice

He’s below the African-American gentleman in the grey suit with the yellow tie (also wearing glasses). This might actually be the third black guy, but, like Stephen Colbert, I don’t see color so it’s hard to tell. Maybe they’re all Asian?

by kijana's acl on Nov 16, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I've got him as

L.J. Rowell. Got his BA in 55, so maybe 77-80 years old now? Does that sound right?

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems a bit old

but he’s the only one that I’m seeing as the smirker.

by kijana's acl on Nov 16, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He's below Barry Robinson.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Nov 16, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

He’s certainly a big-wig on many boards.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

So what you're saying is

they shouldn’t quit their day jobs?

Let's go State

Beat Wisconsin!

by jman07 on Nov 16, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd for longest post (linear feet)

in BSD history.

He completed 17 of individuals 26 passes for 192 lanscaping your yard and two touchdowns - Chan

by rahpsu92 on Nov 16, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't seen this many awkward looking white guys in bland suits since, well, the last time I turned on C-SPAN

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I can't see Joyner smirking about any of this.

I’ve known about him for years, and at first look this appears – to me – a good appointment.

What the hell just happened?

by Pete the Streak on Nov 16, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, me either

Nor Lubert. But maybe that’s wrestling bias.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

zooker

I understand Illinois wanting more / better. I get it. But Illinois will be going to two straight bowl games for the first time since 91-92, and they were 6-6-0 and 6-5-1 in those two years. Illinois could very well reach 8 wins this year (they have 6, and Wisconsin, Minnesota, and the bowl remain), and if they do, they will have 3 seasons of 8 wins or more in the last 5 years.

The last time Illinois had a span of 5 years with 3 seasons of 8 wins or more: 1902-1906. The last time Illinois had a span of 5 years rivaling the last 5 in overall quality: 1925-1929.

To Illinois fans clamoring for the firing of Ron Zook: your school won’t do better than this.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

What schools HAVE learned this lesson yet?

And by that I mean, learned the Grass Aint Greener lesson other schools continue to provide and manage to NOT pull the firing pins?

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

If they learned that lesson, they wouldn't be perennial borderline bowl teams

so I’m good with it

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually disagree.

Their school can and should do better than that. Illinois is the most populous Midwestern state and while their high school talent isn’t as great as, say, Ohio, it’s pretty darned good.

Illinois needs a good athletic department and a coach who can develop players and teach them to play fundamentally strong football. I honestly think Illinois football, theoretically speaking, has a higher ceiling than Iowa.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Illinois is the B1G's perennial underachiever

along with Michigan State, but for different reasons.

Thing is, I agree sort of. They should be better. But when you reach 3 seasons of 8 wins or more in a span of 5 FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER A CENTURY, wouldn’t a bit of hesitation before firing the coach be warranted? At least amongst the fans?

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be more than 1/2 serious about that

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

and the less than half should be Iowa fans

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

And I didn't say Illinois can't do better than Zook

I said that they won’t

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, yes, this is true.

By the way, I’m going to create three video games:

Guitar Hero: Ralph Mooney Edition.

THE CIVIL WAR – part FPS, part RTS, part tactical combat simulator, well, I mean, this would be as massive as the war itself. It would be the greatest, largest, most breathtaking video game ever created.

Success with Honor and the Unseasoned Dish. Take over a college athletic program of your choice. Be like Paterno or be like Switzer. I could see myself Paternoing Illinois. I think my coach would combine Paterno with Hayden fry; Brooklyn with the high porch picnic.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Can I burn SEC country to the ground in THE CIVIL WAR?

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you think?

You can be anything you like. You can create your own characters or be a genuine figure.

You can be Sherman and make Georgia howl.

You can be a sleazy cotton speculator and make Grant issue his infamous and bizarre Jew Order.

You can be Kit Carson.

You can be a Copperhead politician.

You can be Charles Sumner, and get beaten over the head with a cane.

You can be Stephen Foster.

The possibilities are endless.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 16, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

You were supposed to answer

“If you did, could anyone tell the difference?”

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

No, but it would have been awesome

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Kiss my grits, y'all!

No matter what you think about the current situation, support the players, they deserve our respect.

by Paige2PSU on Nov 16, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm making Shrimp and Grits for dinner tonight

FWIW, the inventors of grits (the Muskogee Indians) no longer live in the South.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

you won the internets today

good job

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Ohio State.

by ckmneon on Nov 16, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The Smirker, as ID'in a BSD lineup


Far right, over Surma’s left shoulder, yellow shirt. L.J. Rowell.

by jtothep on Nov 16, 2011 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

what a douche

I wanted to smack him through that entire press conference. Forget if they were right or wrong in their decision, just to be so indignant that people would ask questions about it pissed me off.

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#OccupyESPN

by skarocksoi on Nov 16, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

...aaaaand Bob Davie is off the market...

Sorry ladies another one got away. His soothing baritone will no longer be dishing deep analyses on game day. His leprechaun magic will not be gracing Beaver Stadium’s sidelines.

He completed 17 of individuals 26 passes for 192 lanscaping your yard and two touchdowns - Chan

by rahpsu92 on Nov 16, 2011 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

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