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Penn State Beats Ohio State 20-14

COLUMBUS, OH - NOVEMBER 19:  Stephfon Green #21 of the Penn State Nittany Lions outruns Tyler Moeller #26 and Orhian Johnson #19, both of the Ohio State Buckeyes, to score a touch down during the first quarter on November 19, 2011 at Ohio Stadium in Columbus, Ohio. (Photo by Kirk Irwin/Getty Images)

This week has been anything but normal. I think we can probably agree that rehashing the events of the past 14 days would tarnish an otherwise perfect escape from the drama surrounding Penn State. It was a game that didn't matter for the Big Ten Title, but it was a game Penn State just wanted more. They had plenty to prove and they had plenty to fight for.

From the start you knew it was a game that Penn State took seriously. Matt McGloin looked as sharp as he has in his two years as a starter. His 10/18 passing day may not have been flashy, but it was efficient when it had to be. Stephfon Green ran like a man who had something to prove, his 16 carries for 93 yards came at pivotal moments in the game. Curtis Drake found his way into the playbook and made big play after big play. The defense also made just enough plays to insure that the game would not be spoiled. It wasn't always pretty, but Penn State from top to bottom played their hearts out for a full 60 minutes.

Somewhere in State College Joe Paterno watched this game and I'm sure he would have been proud of his team. Against almost all odds Penn State walked into the Horseshoe and gave everything they had, played smart, and walked out on top. They ignored the distractions and took care of what they could control. It was all he every really asked of his teams.

Moving forward Penn State has another chance to prove more people wrong. A date with Wisconsin next weekend is for all the marbles. A division title, a shot at the Big Ten title, and a chance to finish what has been possibly the most improbable seasons in Penn State history. It seems at this point that Penn State is destined to complete a title race that shouldn't have ever happened. It doesn't make any sense, but we've stopped trying to figure it out.

That feeling you have is an emotional cocktail of relief and hope. That some day soon it'll be better and that things will be like they were. Today was the second step in a healing process.

And it felt great.

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WE STILL ARE!

and tO$U still sucks.

Reputation-Vile Thing! (Othello)

by nits4ever on Nov 19, 2011 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

PENN STATE!!!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 19, 2011 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

And

We will always be Penn State!

Reputation-Vile Thing! (Othello)

by nits4ever on Nov 19, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

And tOSU still sucks!

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Nov 19, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

"Satisfying"

would be the word that comes to my mind when I summarize this game.

I’ve never been so happy to have made the wrong pick for a game.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Nov 19, 2011 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

Haha

I just got done telling my friend that I’m immensely satisfied with our record to this point. It’d be great to beat the douche next week, but I won’t be angry with the team if we don’t.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I predicted 8 or 9 wins at the start of the season so depsite everything that goal has been met.

Reputation-Vile Thing! (Othello)

by nits4ever on Nov 19, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe I said 8-4

I may have said 9-3.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

But you would be okay

with 10-2, right?

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 19, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'ing that!!!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Nov 19, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

This team has been something else this year.

My beginning of the year, ‘best case’ realistic outcome was that we’d lose 3 games. I didn’t see us being any better than that, but that was when I thought we might have an explosive offense that might help bring the D along. I figured, lose to Bama, then drop 2 of the final three.

Then I was at the Bama game and I told my buddy afterwards, there is no way that this team competes in the B1G this year, that offense is atrocious.

I’m happy they’ve proved my second guess wrong, especially now. The way they’ve handled themselves has really made me proud.

Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"

by Rogue Nine on Nov 19, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved today's offense

It was innovative and something we haven’t seen from Penn State in… forever.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Joe said in the spring and Bradley mentioned it postgame

that they wanted to run the wild lion with Drake all season but they shelved it after Drake broke his leg.

by lion09 on Nov 20, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The Bama Game

didn’t affect how I felt. But after Temple and then Indiana I was not optimistic.

Reputation-Vile Thing! (Othello)

by nits4ever on Nov 19, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Ayup

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 19, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Trading Places win

Awwn.. Look. They’re in love!

by PSUCharmas on Nov 20, 2011 1:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Next week

We’ll be big underdogs next week, and I’m fine with that.

by psuangus on Nov 19, 2011 8:01 PM EST reply actions  

Great day.

Not our best performance of the year, but we were clearly the better team and we once again overcame adversity created by Ohio State and, of course, self-made adversity. If McGloin makes some more accurate throws and if we don’t screw around in the red zone, we probably would have blown Ohio State out in their own little hovel.

The defense looked a little bit rusty today and Jack often commented on poor tackling and a few mental mistakes. I counted five instances of Jack commenting on inaccurate throws by McGloin. At least one of those throws should have been a touchdown. McGloin only made one bad decision during the whole game (the interception), but his inaccuracy cost him some nice plays. He doesn’t usually have quite so much trouble with that issue.

This is still the same team we’ve seen the last few weeks. They seem to have moved beyond the debacle of the last two weeks and gotten back into a rhythm. That means they’ll win, but it might give you a heart attack.

I think we’ll get more than 20 points next Saturday and I think the defense will play much better. Remember the Purdue game. They looked very sloppy, but they overcame. Then they played very, very well against the next two opponents. Plus, honestly, Ohio State’s run game has improved dramatically.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 19, 2011 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Our D didn't turn in it's best performance

But what game did our O play better? NW maybe?

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, probably.

Like I said, game of inches and everything. McGloin threw the ball behind his receivers on about five occasions. Change one or two of those passes and we probably would have had a two or three score lead in the 4th.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 19, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus...

that one wildcat play in the third would have been six had the play clock not run out. And if Zordich had caught that ball that was on his hands…

by Dr Screenpass on Nov 19, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, all of that.

Illinois shut us down because, hey, Illinois played well on defense. Indiana and Ohio State did not shut us down, we just screwed around.

The Grand Experiment will never die.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 19, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

But hey

IDC how we win. Just so long as we win

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm happy for the players

and I’m happy for Tom Bradley. He is a worthy man to coach our team.

by CvilleLion on Nov 19, 2011 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Yea

I didn’t like the idea of him as our coach before this season… but he’s winning me over.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here.

But I’ve done a 180. Unfortunately, I’m not sure Joyner or the Board of Untrustees will give him serious consideration.

by CvilleLion on Nov 19, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I think they'll unfortunately make a clean break

but I think Bradley is the best choice if they want to continue Success with Honor. You don’t serve under Joe this long and not buy into what he preaches.

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The staff seems so much more decisive...

with the possible exception of “Guman! He didn’t make it!” Redux.

by Dr Screenpass on Nov 19, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

That’s exactly what I was thinking. I think I died a little bit that night in New Orleans.

I would have run at least one play-action pass play there (either tonight or on 1/1/79).

by Jitterbug on Nov 19, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I've done a 180 the other way

Terrible decision to go for it on 4th and goal when a field goal puts us up 9 against a typically inept offense and our D. Looks like a guy who’s trying too hard to impress.

Still a great win.

by kijana's acl on Nov 19, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree he should have kicked it...

but I don’t think he was trying to impress higher-ups; just show confidence in the players.

by Dr Screenpass on Nov 19, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

He wasn’t doing that to impress anyone. Come on.

"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings

by ReadingRambler on Nov 19, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched.........

Bill Cowher piss away who knows how many trips to the Super Bowl by playing not to lose or close to the vest……aka……Martyball. I like the decision to go for it. I don’t like the play calls once the decision was made.

"Distinction will be his paramount object, and although he would as willingly, perhaps more so, acquire it by doing good as harm; yet, that opportunity being past, and nothing left to be done in the way of building up, he would set boldly to the task of pulling down."

-Abraham Lincoln

Eric Watters
Atlanta, Ga.

by ech2os on Nov 19, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea

I would’ve liked to see something other than 4 runs up the middle there. A counter or something would’ve been nice

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.........

McGloin up the middle? Maybe Silas goes over the top but without the ball. I don’t know. I guess if you say eff it we are going for it and we are going to pound it down your throat to end this…….then I like it. But it didn’t feel like we were going to be able to do that. JMHO.

"Distinction will be his paramount object, and although he would as willingly, perhaps more so, acquire it by doing good as harm; yet, that opportunity being past, and nothing left to be done in the way of building up, he would set boldly to the task of pulling down."

-Abraham Lincoln

Eric Watters
Atlanta, Ga.

by ech2os on Nov 19, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

McGloin on the naked bootleg

would have walked in, or possibly swaggered in.

by IndianaLion on Nov 19, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

On 2nd down,

That would have worked easily.

The 3rd down QB sneak was poorly executed by McGloin. He sttod straight up and turned sideways instead of just putting his head down and plowing through there. I still think he would have been stopped. Those OSU DL men were tough.

I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.

by PaJoe on Nov 20, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

The 1st mcgloin sneak

would have been a TD had he gone left of center instead of right. There was just enough of a crease for him to get through and get the TD.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 20, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Would've been cool

to fake it to Zordich up the middle and flip it out to Redd

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Bill Cowher was like 1,243 and 1 with 4th quarter leads for a reason

When you have that defense against O$U’s offense you take the three points and make them score twice to win. It’s not ballsy, it’s not flashy, it just works.

by kijana's acl on Nov 19, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats the great thing about football........

its not baseball. Stats don’t mean as much as momentum. WIth our defense, leaving them at the 1 with a freshman QB and for all intents and purposes, nothing on the line in that game besides pride, go for it. As it turned out, a field goal wouldn’t have accomplished anything anyhow as the go ahead points were scored at the end of the first half.

I have never been a fan of the conservative play calling. While I see what you are saying, I like the call to go for it and try to put it away.

"Distinction will be his paramount object, and although he would as willingly, perhaps more so, acquire it by doing good as harm; yet, that opportunity being past, and nothing left to be done in the way of building up, he would set boldly to the task of pulling down."

-Abraham Lincoln

Eric Watters
Atlanta, Ga.

by ech2os on Nov 19, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean.......

with the first TD. lol. Durr.

"Distinction will be his paramount object, and although he would as willingly, perhaps more so, acquire it by doing good as harm; yet, that opportunity being past, and nothing left to be done in the way of building up, he would set boldly to the task of pulling down."

-Abraham Lincoln

Eric Watters
Atlanta, Ga.

by ech2os on Nov 19, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you're overstating the poor quality of Ohio State's offense.

Ohio State moved the ball very effectively today – particularly on the ground.

Frankly, I think Bradley should have kicked the field goal too. But I’m not sure the statistical percentages make it an obvious call.

Finally, Jack and Steve didn’t have much of a problem with the call. Good enough for me.

"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings

by ReadingRambler on Nov 19, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

They did

But not so well that I thought they could easily score twice in, what, 20 minutes?

I prefer a more aggressive approach when circumstances dictate. In the same situation against Wisconsin or Michigan, I like the call. I don’t like against a freshman QB who has led an offense that, for most of the year, could reasonably be described as more inept than ours.

by kijana's acl on Nov 19, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I’m actually leaning towards wanting him as the next coach.

by speedomike on Nov 19, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

At this point, I think he is the only one who could semi-salvage

the recruiting class. Otherwise a talent gap will be created that will take at least 4 years to fix

by whiteoutonly on Nov 19, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

Much as I think recruiting is overrated in general, I do agree with one of its major dogmas: 1 bad recruiting class, you’ll hardly notice, but 2 bad recruiting classes in a row can severely damage a program.

Last year’s class, by all indications, was solid but not awesome, but truthfully we still don’t know. A bad class following that class could make things rough.

GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, until PSU sees them in basketball and wrestling
Beat Wisconsin

by ckmneon on Nov 20, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Proud of the team...Glad for Tom Bradley...

But still too emotionally drained from the last two weeks to be too happy. I think my reaction was a pride mixed with lingering terrible sadness.

Wouldn’t it be ironic to see “2011” on the club boxes in future years? We’ll see in one or two weeks…

And I think that Bradley, if he gets to accept the trophy, would say something like, “Joe Paterno would be honored to accept a trophy named after Amos Alonzo Stagg, and so are we.” So far he is class all the way. Let’s hope we get to see it.

by Dr Screenpass on Nov 19, 2011 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

Same here. The strain of the past two weeks affected how I felt while watching the game.

Instead of sitting on the edge of the sofa and yelling (at good plays or bad) I watched it with a sort of quiet satisfaction. I was more happy for the players and coaches than for anything else. I’m sure the old fire will return, but for now I’m a bit more relaxed and have a more relaxed perspective on the games (I think).

by CvilleLion on Nov 19, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Game Ball..........

Anthony Fera…….two career long field goals on the road and excellent, excellent punting.

When Florida was beating people to win MNCs, Chas Henry was punting people into horrible field position week after week. You can’t overstate how awesome Fera was today.

"Distinction will be his paramount object, and although he would as willingly, perhaps more so, acquire it by doing good as harm; yet, that opportunity being past, and nothing left to be done in the way of building up, he would set boldly to the task of pulling down."

-Abraham Lincoln

Eric Watters
Atlanta, Ga.

by ech2os on Nov 19, 2011 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Let's greenify that bad boy

welcome back

It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.

by Horse N Buggy on Nov 20, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He's actually JoePa

Beat the Hell out of Ohio State!!

by JuniataMan on Nov 19, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

That game completely hinged on Fera’s leg. That and the TD on the first drive. The tone of the game was set from that play: Ohio State would be playing from behind all day.

Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it

by millzners on Nov 19, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

What a game

The score doesn’t even indicate how well the team played. Wish we could’ve gotten some points out of that goal line series. I know there’s a lot of talk about how much of the offense clicking can be attributed to Joe not being around, but how much of the defense playing uncharacteristically above-average (instead of awesome) can be attributed to Scrap not running that show?

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by 06Lion on Nov 19, 2011 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

The point about the defense is a very good one, and not one I thought of

We always assumed LJ would be a great defensive coordinator, and Vandy used to be a head coach…but could it be they’re not as good DCs as TB?

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Nov 20, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

well, they've had 1.5 weeks in their new respective positions.

As with everything we’ve learned in that past 1.5 weeks, let’s wait a bit before deciding.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 20, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

excellent point

I just hope they are given a chance, and we have the opportunity to have more data before deciding

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Nov 21, 2011 8:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I just had a Sam Adams Chocolate Bock.

It’s like drinking hot chocolate, but it’s cold, and beer.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 19, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That may be the only Brooklyn I've never tasted...

I LOVE Brooklyns. I’m working on a trip to NYC with my GF – she gets to see Wicked (actually, I like the show too, but I don’t tell her so I get credit), and we’re going to the brewery to see if anybody can be me at the game of drink.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 19, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I've only ever had one beer that I found too strong.

The Dogfish Head 180 or whatever it is that’s like 18% alcohol. Not even good.

(And as far as too strong a flavor, I’ve actually eaten hops and loved them.)

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 19, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Homebrewed on draught

Köelsch (4.2% ABV, 22 IBU) and hard cider (8.3% ABV )

If you like a true German Pilsner, you will LOVE Köelsch. It is a lagered ale. Exotic ale esters of apple and citrus along with the smoothness of a lager. ‘I can drink that shit all day’!

by PSUinOH on Nov 20, 2011 8:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ROSE BOWL OR BUST, BABY!

A plateau is a high form of flattery.

by Assorted Fruit on Nov 19, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

This coaching staff needs to be kept for another year or two.

But they won’t be. The university will screw this up too.

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by 06Lion on Nov 19, 2011 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 19, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If they don't take a flamethrower to the football program

ESPN and the rest of the media won’t approve. They’ll report on Penn State with frowny faces. So you can plainly see how their hands are tied.

by Jitterbug on Nov 19, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you overestimate

the capacity for overgrown children to sustain their manufactured indignation.

The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.

We (Still) Are...

by PSU_Buch on Nov 19, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh

Nah, I’m on to the media’s tricks. They’re guaranteed to mention Bradley’s work under Joe enough times to give the BoT (and by extension, the new prez) the heebie-jeebies, and they’ll clean house. We’re a “new” Penn State now, gents. They’ll soon practically beg the media to ignore anything pre-2012.

by Jitterbug on Nov 19, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

What can we do about the BoT?

When several of them are brought in by whomever teh governor is

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

They are susceptible to public pressure

Step One would be galvanizing support from within the Penn State community to call for Bradley’s retention.

The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.

We (Still) Are...

by PSU_Buch on Nov 19, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we pay ESPN to start saying nice things about Bradley?

Because apparently that’s where the BoT gets all their info

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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 19, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

If we can find a way to link to Bradley to...

1) Brett Favre
2) Tim Tebow
3) The Yankees/Red Sox Rivalry
4) The SEC
5) LeBron James

It’s a great start. They will talk about him 24/7.

The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.

We (Still) Are...

by PSU_Buch on Nov 19, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering ESPN showed Jay 6 times for every time they showed the actual head coach

These guys are screwed.

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by 06Lion on Nov 19, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Easy

Jay Paterno is on Bradley’s staff, he is a Red Sox fan. Also, Jay recruited Lebron as a wideout in high school

by whiteoutonly on Nov 19, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

IMPEACH CORBETT!!!!

That’s what we can do!

by PSUinOH on Nov 20, 2011 8:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Cool

I’m glad you have fire in the belly. I’m too scarred by the events of the past two weeks, twisted and warped in cynicism by witnessing fecklessness and naked scapegoating right now. I still need a reason to see that some actual justice comes out of this mess. Perhaps it’s only a matter of time.

by Jitterbug on Nov 19, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Facts, damned facts

Why bother reporting facts about Penn State now? They’re just mailing it in on the football games now anyway. To bring their A game would legitimize the football team and wreck the narrative, which they’re not about to do. I’m surprised instead of Nessler and Blackledge, we didn’t get the one-eyed woman and the prison-release hire with the lisp to do the game.

by Jitterbug on Nov 19, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

As my wife said

They didn’t want people to turn off their TVs.

by speedomike on Nov 20, 2011 7:25 AM EST up reply actions  

WE Beat OSU in the Shoe

This season is waaay better than I predicted.

Predicting Penn State's Offensive Scripts since 2005!

by Kunza on Nov 19, 2011 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

Great game; gutsy calls...

..for a week that made football seem so 2ndary.

by lion in winter on Nov 19, 2011 11:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Great game

Being there, I never really felt OSU fans in it, except the goal line stand there (and I like that we went for it, play calling could have been better).

I also have to say I have never been treated better at an OSU game. Fans were very nice. Heck, even this guy wearing a douchey T-shirt apologized for wearing it. Any ribbing I was subjected too was purely football related. Very impressed.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Big Ten...or just lose the sweater vest.

by amandakt on Nov 20, 2011 12:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I would never have guessed.

At this point, I think it’s clear that most fanbases (in general) realize PSU has been unjustly dragged through the mud. Nebraska were wonderful, you’re saying OSU was good, and even Pitt fans are showing compassion. The hatred is now purely “we have nothing else to talk about” media-based.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Nov 20, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Pitt fans showing compassion?

You must be around some nice ones. The ones I work with are dicks.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Big Ten...or just lose the sweater vest.

by amandakt on Nov 20, 2011 10:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You know a Pitt grad with a job?

That’s like having seen a unicorn or Big Foot.

by kijana's acl on Nov 20, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I imagine the ones at the games/tailgates are probably a bit different than the "average" fan.

They see what it is like to REALLY love and follow their team (as opposed to just saying they are a fan when it is convenient), and know that this could have just as easily happened at their school as well, and it is just mortifying to have to deal with.

by The JuggerNitt on Nov 20, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

It's nice to see that normally douchey fans are showing they have a heart.

If only the ESPN boards were that way. I mss the days when our biggest concern was beating Indiana by six points.

I never really go to any away games (can’t afford it) but this sounds like one I’d have liked to have gone to.

Still, I have to say, football-related it was nice to see Ohio State lose. Because they’re our big time rival now, of course. But it’s actually been hard to think about football lately. The last two weeks are the first tiem I wasn’t glued to the TV for all four quarters in years.

by Altoona Man on Nov 20, 2011 5:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope

the same can be said next week at Wisconsin. Something tells me however the Belima (sp) will find a way to be his normal dicky self.

As for yesterday, super proud of this team. Just a few points…I think being on the road these last two weeks will be a big help as far as focus goes. McGloin getting full reps during practice shows (even with some poor throws). Love the wildcat play calling but I wonder if we used it a week to soon.

This upcoming week couldn’t get any better. Great Thanksgiving football followed by a game for the right to play for the Land Grant Trophy. Everyone enjoy your holiday.

We Are…

by PSUROLLS on Nov 20, 2011 7:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wore my colors to work on Friday

Gotta tell you, OSU fans empathize for us PSU fans. If anyone knows what we are going through it’s the fú€keyes.

by PSUinOH on Nov 20, 2011 8:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sadly, I had a different experience.

Went to the Rhino Bar in DC. Penn State upstairs, Ohio State downstairs. I was upstairs and there was a group of OSU fans sitting right beside me. During a play in the first quarter, the OSU fans started cheering, and the Penn State fans said go downstairs. This one OSU guy next to me shouted out, “don’t play with little boys.” I turned and yelled, “Fuck you. FUCK YOU. Cheer for your team, root against Penn State, but that is out of bounds.” He quieted down a bit after that. When things cooled, I said you can’t accuse every Penn Stater here of the action of a few. He said that he was a teacher and took the allegations seriously. I told him that if he took them seriously, he should not use the subject to mock fans of an opposing school, but should contribute to RAINN.

I am not going to paint all OSU fans based on one’s action, but it was a disappointing experience in an otherwise fun day.

by dontcallmescooter on Nov 21, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

He said that he was a teacher and took the allegations seriously.

This bothers me. The whole “well, I’m a ____ (fill in blank with parent, teacher, whatever) so I take this seriously”—as if those of us who aren’t don’t take it seriously. As if there aren’t those of us who ARE parents, teachers, whatever, who are Penn Staters and would vehemently disagree with his characterization.

The idea that because we are Penn Staters, that means we don’t take this seriously is ludicrous. I would argue that we take it even MORE seriously, because we are Penn Staters and this hits us so close to home.

Sorry, I know this isn’t the thread for it, but I was massively worried about this type of backlash myself, so I actually hid in my hotel room in WVa to watch the game rather than hit the sports bar that was the plan a few weeks ago. I just wasn’t sure what I would say that would best articulate my feelings, and I didn’t want to have to defend myself or my sister in public with a bunch of drunk, idiot, WV fans. I applaud you, Scooter, for going out and watching it, and being a good representative of our University.

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Nov 21, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

elation-

 a feeling or state of great joy or pride; exultant gladness; high spirits.

by aqwerty on Nov 20, 2011 12:35 AM EST reply actions  

Just watched the game

I couldn’t bring myself to center my day around watching the game. Just too disheartened with the Sandusky scandal. But it felt good to see it after all.

Really ambitious play calling—it kept OSU offf balance. Except on the goal line where predictability led to a missed opportunity. Two things are obvious offensively without Paterno as HC. One, no more RoBo. (He’ll transfer anyway I figure.) Two, more daring on the road. Not judging here, just making a few observations.

by gcdyersb on Nov 20, 2011 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

No Pucker pucker pucker.

"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09

twitter: @princessblueezy

by kmblue on Nov 20, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

This year, the team finishes what they started at halftime.

Take away that pick and make the one fourth down call a field goal and we murder them 23-7. I wanted a blowout, but a close win is good enough. Seeing the sad panda Ohio State fans late in the fourth quarter was the best thing I’d seen in awhile.

by Altoona Man on Nov 20, 2011 5:29 AM EST reply actions  

What was Pitt thinking?

Seeing Scrap these last two weeks make me wonder what in the world was Pitt thinking when they decided to give the HC job to someone other than him?

by SilverFoxx on Nov 20, 2011 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

They were thinking he's from Penn State

They still think we give a shit about a rivalry half of the living alumni don’t remember

by PSUinOH on Nov 20, 2011 9:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You're probably right

After the regular season, the BoT should do something right and make him the HC period.

My confidence in the BoT isn’t at an all time high (shocking), so unfortunately this is probably a terrific audition for another job. Anyone paying attention has to be very impressed with the job that Bradley and the rest of the coaching staff has done.

by SilverFoxx on Nov 20, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yep.

They’re terrified of what the media is doing to their precious “PSU brand”, so the current staff stands NO chance of getting an offer.

Only by hiring complete strangers can the BoT show how much they hate child abuse. Can’t fall behind in that contest.

by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 20, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If the staff gets swept clean

Kiss Linebacker U goodbye. I doubt anybody that would come on board would be able to continue that tradition, or even attempt to honor it.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Nov 20, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't know if I care about the moniker "Linbacker U" anymore

since Sandusky built that reputation. Even though it was continued since his departure. I associate that too strongly with him. Not fair, but it is what it is.

by dontcallmescooter on Nov 21, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

The BoT has stated

That they are leaving the filling of the coaches job to the president and the AD. And the AD just the other day stated that he is not opposed to allowing a PSU person, or one with PSU ties be the head coach. Gotta follow Ben Jones, he reported that yesterday afternoon before the game.

So there is a chance that Bradley can be viewed as a viable candidate for the job.

by AriesGD on Nov 20, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I think that was code for..

Al Golden. I think Bradley’s only chance is if PSU wins the Rose Bowl.

One question I have is where does Vandy land? He is probably the best linebackers coach in college football. Would Golden bring him down to Miami?

11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.

by Esteban d' Amur on Nov 20, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Joyner is a good dude and trust his judgement on this 100%

His son played until 2000 so he is very familiar with the current staff from multiple perspectives, he will make a good decision

May no act.................

by SweepTheLeg on Nov 20, 2011 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Joyner voted to fire Joe

He was a BOT member that voted ‘unanimously’ to fire Joe. The BOT gave into media pressure to fire Joe and they also gave in to the media’s timetable to fire Joe under the cover of darkness. I question his ability to lead. A true leader would have seen through the media’s BS and made a tough decision.

He has ties to the football program. If Joe knew about Sadusky’s pervo fetish then so did Joyner. So the BOT should use the same logic and fire Joyner too.

by PSUinOH on Nov 20, 2011 4:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Dave Joyner lost a lot of respect

from a lot of people. I cannot wait to vote him out, if he doesn’t quit first.

by FB6244 on Nov 20, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough FB6244...can't argue with the democratic process and I am being dead serious

Same thing goes for the OWS people, unless if you show up and vote…you are not really getting anything accomplished.

May no act.................

by SweepTheLeg on Nov 20, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Where has Curtis Dukes been?

I haven’t noticed him at all in the past few weeks and had thought he was looking pretty good when Beachum was out. Did I miss something about him getting injured or in trouble? I would have liked him to get a crack at carrying the ball when we were on the 1 trying to pound it in.

I like sports and I don't care who knows.

by Drea1020 on Nov 20, 2011 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

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