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Penn State Coaching Search: Tom Bradley

Nov. 12, 2011. Interim head coach Tom Bradley, via (BSD/Mike Pettigano)


As Penn State kicks its search for a head coach into high gear, we're doing the same here at BSD all this week and probably into next week. Each day, we will publish a coaching candidate profile for as many likely contenders for the job as we can squeeze in before a decision is actually made by Dave Joyner and Rodney Erickson. Penn State could have a coach by the end of today for all we know. No, it's not likely. But these things can take weird, sharp turns at any point.

After taking a look at Mississippi State's Dan Mullen, it's on to the guy who actually has experience running the Nittany Lions on gameday: Interim Head Coach Tom Bradley.

Head Coaching Record

2011 Opponent Result
Nov. 12
Nebraska L, 14-17
Nov. 19
at Ohio State
W, 20-14
Nov. 26
at Wisconsin
L, 7-45
Overall W/L: 1-2 Avg. Score: 13.6-25.3

No head coach in the history of the sport has been put in the position Bradley now "rests." (Like that's an accurate description of what he's doing.) There is no need to rehash what has happened to the university and its athletic department, or it's former head coach. Let's just leave it at this... Coming within a field goal of a winning record against this final three-game stretch, under these circumstances, has been borderline brilliant. Bradley has been able to keep this team together through a close loss, a road win, and a blowout road loss to the best team in the conference. What's even scarier to think about that is we all pretty much expected that kind of record for Penn State in November even before the scandal nuked Happy Valley a few weeks ago.

Coaching Experience

Tom "Scrap" Bradley earned his nickname as a player from 1975-78, as part of the "Scrap Pack" special teams unit that was so good in the mid-to-late years of that decade. In 1979 he joined the staff as a GA and never looked back. From 1980 to 1995, Bradley coached the Penn State special teams (OMGPENNSTATEHADASPECIALTEAMSCOACH!) in addition to other positions like wide receivers in the mid-1980s and recruiting coordinator later that decade. He moved exclusively to defensive backfield following the '95 season, then to defensive coordinator in 2000. In his until-recent role in charge of the defense, Bradley has somehow never earned the Broyles Award for best coordinator, even though Penn State has annually fielded defenses among the best in the nation, not just the conference.

Star-divide

In 2006, Bradley served as co-head coach with Galen Hall when Joe Paterno first missed games with the broken leg. The past three games, he has been the interim full-time head coach.

Coaching Philosophy

Being a coordinator or position coach his entire career, we only have that--plus the three games this year--to gauge what kind of style he would bring to the job. But Bradley has shown his cards enough for us to take a crack at this. Bradley's defenses, in the patented "bend but don't suck break" system, have been remarkably consistent in a very good way. (For an explanation of S&P+, please see here.)

Year Total Defense (yds/game) Rank Scoring Defense (pts/game) Rank Defensive S&P+ Rank
2005 304.67 12 17.00 10 146.9 2
2006 284.46 15 14.38 9 130.9 6
2007 308.23 11 17.54 7 115.7 19
2008 280.08 8 14.38 8 120.5 15
2009 274.46 9 12.23 3 130.6 11
2010 346.85 35 23.69 50 111.4 38
2011 300.92 11 15.69 8 135.1 3

The defense would be in good hands, even if Bradley unloaded much of the responsibility to a full-time coordinator. He would still have input on how the defense was run. We know he can do a fantastic job of that. But what about the offense? Well, it's tough to say, since he's spend all of three weeks now sitting in on the offensive coaches meetings. One nice cue we can take from Bradley's handling of the offense this November was the Ohio State performance, during which the offense successfully executed the "wildcat" or single-wing style offense that took the Buckeyes completely by surprise. Penn State ran for 239 yards, 6.1 yards per clip, while jumping on Ohio State for 20 first-half points. Now, the second half shutout of both teams was a bit concerning. But with the defense Penn State has this season, it's not surprising that Bradley was content to sit on the lead and allow the D to hold on for the win.

Fit - Cultural, Personnel, Etc.

Bradley grew up in Johnstown, graduating from the same high school as Jack Ham. He's a "Penn Stater" in every sense of the moniker. There would be no learning curve for Bradley as head coach, both in the program and in the community. He's long been regarded as one of the most likeable, personable people you'll ever meet, especially considering his stature.

As for the team, though Paterno was long known as a disciplinarian, Bradley might actually be tougher on the players when they screw up. Even during his first press conference, Bradley sounded almost like he was giving a job interview by declaring his own "one strike" rule for team discipline. That would sound harsh to most programs, and possibly a turn-off to some recruits or players. But Bradley has earned so much respect from the past players and current team, he doesn't have to worry about hurting anyone's feelings by kicking a little ass once in a while.

The elephant in the room, however, is what he may or may not have known about the Sandusky Scandal. Bradley roomed with Mike McQueary for a while, and was obviously in a close working relationship to Sandusky himself. Sure it's possibly Bradley just kept his blinders on and didn't know anything about the unspeakable acts going on; but..................(my point exactly).

Bradley is the polar opposite problem to what Peter discussed yesterday with Mullen, as Scrap is a strictly defensive coach with very, very little experience running an offense of any sort. This would force Bradley to make a dynamite hire for an offensive coordinator. Sorry, as much as Jay Paterno has distinguished himself on a personal level the last few weeks, he's still not a high enough caliber offensive coach (right now, but I do think he's not as terrible as everyone jokes) to have earned the job at Penn State.

We all love Scrap. But is his potential, possibly yet-to-be-discovered baggage too much of a risk for Penn State to take right now? What if it comes out in another six, eight, 12 months that Bradley did in fact know something about Sandusky? That would be like a double-tap nuking of Happy Valley. There would be no Penn State after that. Just a warm glass plain between Philly and Pittsburgh.

My official stance on Bradley is 1,000 percent positive if he's clean, but not worth the risk if he's not. It's a damn shame that he might be sunk by something he has nothing to do with. But, hey, we all know who to blame for that.

What is your thought on Bradley as a candidate?

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also in dr screenpass' post...but you guys move so fast!

with all of the coaching vacancies that came open (and some of them are some pretty damn good jobs imo), what are the chances we find out if this will be an internal hire or if we’re shopping. and i don’t mean in the "we’ve appointed a search committee so, pack your bags, Bradley" kind of way…

If i was TB, I’d be having a big conversation with this committee right now. the psu job is mine to lose. but if i’m losing it because i’m associated with the program, you bet your ass i want to know that up front. he’s already shopped other places for a job before. if he doesn’t get a crack at psu, don’t you think he’d bail immediately to go after one of these other open jobs?

so, what i’m asking is: if TB is still our coach in, say, 3 weeks…does that mean he’s a bonafide candidate for the full-time gig, and that the committee isn’t concerned (or has exonerated him) of any insider knowledge of the JS debacle? (#FUJS) or do you think that would reaffirm the PSU admins are actually PURE EVIL HOPPED UP ON MTN DEW?

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by afields16 on Nov 29, 2011 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

Rec'd

And I will add that a quick and firm resolution will benefit not only the team/program, but the entire school and the broader community. The reasons to prioritize expediency in this process are legion.

The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.

We (Still) Are...

by PSU_Buch on Nov 29, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Regardless of Bradley's status

Some in the admin are indeed Dew-infused evil. I wonder to what extent Bradley’s association with PSU will disqualify him from consideration for other jobs. His resume and performance over the last few weeks should dispel virtually any question that he is ready to lead a college football program. However, given current national sentiment toward PSU and everything associated with it, if you’re an AD making that hire, do you really want to defend bringing in “the Penn State guy?”

Sandusky continues to cut an ever-wider swath of destruction…

The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.

We (Still) Are...

by PSU_Buch on Nov 29, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

We owe Tom honesty

Bradley is my #2 choice to an elite coach like Dungy, or a ‘High Profile’ un-named college coach. He can hire an offensive staff.

But I completely agree with afields, if he’s not in contention, we owe him that honesty. That way, he can seek employment at another school, like Illinois or UNC (and he can bring Vandy & LJ with him if they wish).

The University’s failure has held these guys back enough – time to unleash their ‘pursuit of happiness’ if they’re not in contention.

by posas14 on Nov 29, 2011 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

Really struggling on Dungy.

When I think about him, I don’t particularly want him. Then I heard him on Mike and Mike a few minutes ago and realized that I like him. He also said that he wasn’t interested in coming back to coaching anytime in the near future, so take that for what it’s worth.

Bradley’s a fine coach and would do well here. I don’t expect him to be the head coach next season. That will be disappointing in some respect.

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by Adam Collyer on Nov 29, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

The more I think about Dungy

the more I think his skills would work well in college, at least from a “molder of young men” standpoint, but I just dont like him as the HC. Not sure what it is, but I just can’t buy into him being the next coach.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 29, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

What if he were in the CEO with really strong coordinators?

I think he would be a great face of the program, great in the living room with recruits and their families, and focus on the right things on the football field (defense, running game and special teams). He’s my first choice for those reasons.

by kijana's acl on Nov 29, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Everything you say makes total sense

and I dont disagree with it really. But theres just something inside of me that screams “NOOOOO” any time I hear the Dungy name connected with PSU. Maybe its just an inherent dislike of NFL coaches moving to college or something, I’m not sure. Though for some reason I think it would be completely awesome if Mike Tomlin were the next head coach, which is odd as he’s a Dungy disciple and probably somewhat similar in coaching styles. Thats probably just cause I think Tomlin is the coolest mofo around.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 29, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Larry Johnson Sr probably

is then too.

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by rahpsu92 on Nov 29, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

So people should be disqualified

from the HC position because of their religious beliefs and/or their propensity to express them? Not trying to be malicious or defensive, just curious and would like to understand where people are coming from who hold that view (cause I don’t think you’re alone).

by PSUMark2008 on Nov 29, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's the religion that bothers most people, but I understand how some would find him "preachy."

That doesn’t preclude him for me, but I understand the preference.

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by Adam Collyer on Nov 29, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the biggest issue I have with Dungy

is that he just doesn’t excite me. he seems like an awesome guy and I would probably love his overall philosophy, but he just seems…boring. I can totally see a recruit wanting to adopt him as a grandpa, but coming to play for him? I dunno. Plus, I have always thought of him as a really good but not great NFL coach who benefited from having some great talent.

That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.

by Nittany_Ryan on Nov 29, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

You just Tomlin

because he’s Omar Epp’s twin.

Let's go State

Beat Wisconsin!

by jman07 on Nov 29, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Well just think

we wouldnt need to worry about all those medical issues we have. Torn ACLs are a thing of the past!

Plus timeouts would be cool as shit.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 29, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Your last paragraph

nicely summed up my thoughts on Bradley. I also remember an article that David Jones wrote several years ago about TB as Joe’s potential replacement. It was a pro-Bradley piece, stating that Tom would be a demanding leader in terms of accountability and recruiting effort, alluding to the fact that some coaches weren’t pulling their weight in one or both of those areas.

Continuation of a strong defense, better recruiting effort, and a renewed performance accountability is a damn fine way to start the post-JoePa era. Offensive help can be hired.

by CvilleLion on Nov 29, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

"He can hire an offensive staff."

Can he? Think about it this way: you’re an up-and-coming coordinator and Bradley gives you a call to be on his staff. What happens if, like Mike mentioned, it comes out at some point that Bradley knew something? Do you want to take that risk?

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by DrewRusse on Nov 29, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

And for the record

I think Bradley would be a great coach, but I don’t think he’s got a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the job.

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Nov 29, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, why exactly is Dungy an "elite choice"?

Just because he was in the NFL? Really?

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by ReadingRambler on Nov 29, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not a big NFL fan...

but I do appreciate what it takes to win a Super Bowl.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

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by Mike Pettigano on Nov 29, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention, you're not the one getting recruited to play college football...

about 99% of the kids who want to play college football at this level have dreams of playing in the NFL.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Nov 29, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

and they've heard of Tony Dungy

Kids, parents, coaches are going to (rightly or wrongly) need an incentive to send their kids to Penn State – this year, and maybe for many more.

Dungy has become the Great Rehabilitator – If he’s in town, things are bad, but he believes in you and maybe everyone else should too. I don’t want be believe that PSU truly needs him, but maybe they do.

That said, I don’t think there’s a chance he actually takes the job.

by PSUgirl on Nov 29, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That does have an initial impact.

Even Al Groh got a recruiting “pop” at UVA for a couple of seasons. He just couldn’t sustain it and turn out a consistent winner.

by CvilleLion on Nov 29, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I never thought he was a particularly great coach

I get that he won a Super Bowl, but I think that had more to do with Peyton Manning being there than Dungy.

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by Peter Gray on Nov 29, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

And playing

the Sex Cannon led Bears.

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by jman07 on Nov 29, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't want to start anything here but:

The only reason Peyton won the SB MVP that year was because of his last name. If anything, the running back duo of Rhodes and Addai should have been named co-MVPs because a stat line of 25/38, 247yds, 1TD and 1INT isn’t all that impressive. Also, I happen to think that Manning is one of the most overrated/over-hyped athletes of all time.

Run.

by Bob Sacamano on Nov 29, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Very true.

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by Peter Gray on Nov 29, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about this...

You’d have to think the Colts would be in the mix for the playoffs if he were healthy and playing. He’s at least the MVP of his own team.

Also, that superbowl game was played in an awful storm.

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 29, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

The Colts were not going to be a good team

in 2011 with any quarterback. Manning might have gotten them to 7-9, but that football team is garbage. They are overmatched in every facet of the game save for WR (and Wayne and Clark aren’t the same players they once were) and even with Peyton it would have taken a lot of breaks to get above .500

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by OctaShields on Nov 29, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Simply from a "winning the big one" perspective

Peyton hasn’t proved that he is a consistent, big time winner. If you want 400 yards and 4TDs against Jacksonville in November, Peyton is your man, but if you want someone to claw out an ugly win over a team like the Steelers in January or February, I’d look elsewhere.

Run.

by Bob Sacamano on Nov 29, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

One guy can only do so much...

who knows how the Colts would have performed this year with Peyton – we do know how they’ve performed without him – Zero wins. With that said – the parts bin in Indy is pretty empty.

He completed 17 of individuals 26 passes for 192 lanscaping your yard and two touchdowns - Chan Luu

by rahpsu92 on Nov 29, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

If we're going to talk about the real reason

that a HC won something, you could just as easily say Joe won his MNCs due to Sandusky’s defensive schemes… I don’t think any of us want to go there.

You can say all you want about the personnel that allowed the Colts to win the Super Bowl, but the fact remains that Dungy was the HC when it happened. Could someone else have done it? Maybe. But Dungy did.

by PSUMark2008 on Nov 29, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a question.

I don’t mean to sound like a dick, so please don’t take it that way, but if Tom Bradley isn’t good enough for Pitt, Temple, and UConn then why on earth is he good enough to be the head coach at Penn State?? Awaiting barrage of tomatoes.

by snydo5976 on Nov 29, 2011 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

Its a good point..

Addazio got huge booster support for the Temple gig.

Maybe Bradley got offers at Pitt and UConn and decided it wasn’t for him. Maybe he didn’t interview well.

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 29, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

He...

is a bachelorrrrr

A pandemic of cowardice sweeps the nation.

by WorldBFat on Nov 29, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I will marry him

Today is the day I died inside 11/9/11

by letsgopsu on Nov 29, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It's honestly the first thing I thought of.

Imo, the best and most objective way to gauge something is to take the emotion out of it and ask people that aren’t close to the situation. In this case we as Penn State fans obviously want Bradley as the next HC since he is been with the program for 30+ years and he’s done a fine job so far. But isn’t it a bit troubling that within the past year 2 Big East schools and a Mac school didn’t hire him?? I know this sounds terrible but I weigh that more heavily than my own personal opinion of him as a coach. Granted, a sample size of 3 isn’t all that great but the bottom line is that none of them hired him.

by snydo5976 on Nov 29, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Re: temple..

someone told me that there was a Booster who absolutely loved Addazio so Bradley may not have gotten a fair shake.

As for Pitt/UConn? I really don’t know, though it sounds like Pitt botched that with Haywood as their first choice. UConn – same deal, I have no idea.

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 29, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

Did I say that?? Hmm. Let me check. Nope. So I guess you didn’t miss that part. Thanks anyway!!

by snydo5976 on Nov 29, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

his implication was that they regularly make pretty crappy judgements when it comes to football decisions

so them passing over Bradley isnt quite the negative you’re making it out to be. At least, thats what I’m assuming he meant.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 29, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Correct

The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.

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by PSU_Buch on Nov 29, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Old sayings about broken clocks & blind squirrels are old for a reason

They’re true. I am simply not going to start measuring the validity of administrative decision making at PENN STATE against the sterling brain trusts that brought us Pitt, Temple and UConn football. I’m not. You are welcome to do so, and we can agree to disagree. End of story.

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by PSU_Buch on Nov 29, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hey

at least they’ve done it before.

by PSUgirl on Nov 29, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Bradley declined the interview at UConn, according to himself.

Pitt was divided from some sourcesand there was a strong push for Bradley but the anti PSU bloc won out and Temple did have a huge donor say to hire Addazio, so take it for what its worth. If you look at Pitt’s choices the last 30 years and use them as a reason PSU shouldn’t hire Bradley, I really don’t know what to say. Addazio was Urb Meyer’s asst and the hot comodity at the time and there was big money wanting him. Bradley didn’t want UConn and declined. not sure that any of those situations reflect poorly on TB depending how you really investigate what happened.

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by BMAN13 on Nov 29, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, this

I’m also still of the opinion that Bradley was interviewing for interviewing experience sake. I’d guess he had as much power/leverage in the fact that he did not end up coaching at those places as those on the other side.

by jtothep on Nov 29, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It's an imperfect process.

First choices sometimes fail. Individuals passed over sometimes succeed. Could be that Pitt, Temple and UConn got it wrong.

by CvilleLion on Nov 29, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand it's an imperfect process.

Or else every single school in the country would have hired the right guy. But come on. All 3 of those schools passed on him?? Seriously?? It just doesn’t add up to me. However, this does:
1+1 = turkey leftovers for 2 straight weeks

by snydo5976 on Nov 29, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

This is like arguing recruiting. It's pointless.

So what if he was passed over by other schools? The only measure of whether those schools were right or wrong is how TB would do as their head coach. Unfortunately, this isn’t some controlled experiment where you can substitute one variable at a time. We’ll never know how Tom Bradley would have done as a coach at any of those schools. However, administrative decision making at Pitt, Temple, and UConn isn’t a criteria that I give much weight to.

BTW, “1+1 = turkey leftovers for 2 straight weeks” is childish. I thought you wanted to actually discuss something.

by CvilleLion on Nov 29, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently not.

So thanks for clearing everything up CvilleLion.

by snydo5976 on Nov 29, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for your deep insights bro

Let's go State

Beat Wisconsin!

by jman07 on Nov 29, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I never said I would be hitting anyone with some "deep insights".

I simply posed a question. I also think I’ve explained my point of view thoroughly enough. So for those of you who need a refresher, it’s this: If Tom Bradley was passed over by 3 “lesser football schools” (and you can quote me on that) to be their HC then why is he good enough to be Penn State’s coach??

I never said that he shouldn’t be Penn State’s next HC, I simply wanted to see what everyone’s thoughts were. So if I’m being “childish” or stupid or irrational then fine, so be it. Aside from a booster at Temple wanting Addazio, administrations not wanting to win, and Joe being the Emeror of Pennsylvania, I haven’t really heard anything good.

by snydo5976 on Nov 29, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

You want an unsnarky answer?

We don’t know. We have no way of knowing. There are a million and one things that go into a coaching hire. Hell there are a million things to be considered when hiring a History Professor, let alone a football coach. You want “good” answer, call up the Pitt/UConn/Temple admins. They’re the only way to get a real answer. Anything else is pure messageboard speculation.

by jman07 on Nov 29, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Relax man, people were making jokes

First, if Temples biggest (and maybe only) booster wants one guy and not Tom Bradley, it doesnt matter if Bradley is the next Urban Meyer or not, they’re going to take the guy the booster supports. They need money just like everyone else.

Pitt would have made a slam dunk had they hired Bradley, but they have an irrational hatred of anything Penn State, and it also looked like they wanted a different style of coach. They probably saw Bradley as a similar mold to what Wanny was (power running, strong D, etc) and wanted to go a different direction (ie, High Octane offense like Graham). Or maybe they wanted a guy who already had HC experience.

I dont know anything about UConn and their decision, but there really could be a dozen different reasons other than “Bradley isn’t a good coach”. Its not just if he’s good, its whether or not hes a good fit for the school and what they want. That has nothing to do with what Penn State wants and needs right now.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 29, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Just to be clear.

I believe your statement was childish. That’s not the same thing as saying that you are childish. Tom Bradley deserves more respect than being compared to Thanksgiving leftovers.

by CvilleLion on Nov 29, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Well in that case.

I sincerely apologize for making a joke about a recent holiday and the current state of my refrigerator.

by snydo5976 on Nov 29, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I personally love turkey leftovers

and will eat them as long as they are about – sometimes risking botchulism.

Open faced turkey sandwich calling… gotta go.

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by rahpsu92 on Nov 29, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

OMFG!!

You thought I was comparing Tom Bradley to Thanksgiving leftovers?? What?? Did I explicitly say that?? No. I was just making a Family Guy (Ie. random, has nothing to do with anything) type of joke. I’m speechless. That is until I see you at next year’s family reunion.

by snydo5976 on Nov 29, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

You're welcome.

Considering that your handle starts with “snyd”, I may be arguing with one of my relatives. I think I’ll stop here so that I can still go to the family reunion next year.

by CvilleLion on Nov 29, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

He didn’t get the Temple job because their chief booster, who has a ton of input and influence, wanted Addazio. This is why you shouldn’t let boosters run your program.

I don’t know about the Pitt and UConn situations, but I doubt it has much to do with his not being good enough.

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by ReadingRambler on Nov 29, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Its possible

That Bradley interviewed for those jobs for reasons other than actually taking the job. Interview practice, being able to tell PSU that other school’s found him to be a viable candidate, using it as leverage for a raise.

I don’t claim to be an insider, and certainly I could be wrong, but it seems pluasible that Bradley actually passed on those schools. They aren’t going to announce that kind of information though- hey alumni, we hired a new coach but he wasn’t our first choice. The guy we really wanted didn’t like our terms. Or something

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by psuphysicist on Nov 29, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My understanding...

of the Temple and Pitt situations were that at Pitt the AD had eyes on 1: a minority hire, and when he got booted for criminal behavior, the AD’s 2nd choice was the former Tulsa HC. He interviewed Scrap only to quiet sentiment among the media that getting Scrap would be a coup against Paterno and Penn State.

Temple: as was mentioned above, boosters for TU wanted S.A.

Not sure why Scrap was passed over at UConn however, especially for PP???

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by pennst92 on Nov 29, 2011 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks PSUgirl

you just gave me my new sig.

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by jman07 on Nov 29, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made.

You sound like you should write folk songs.

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by ReadingRambler on Nov 29, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He allowed them to call the wildcat and clearly chose 1 QB

After this season that basically makes him look like an offensive genius in my book

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by Nittany_Ryan on Nov 29, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Why we should hire Scrap:

I will assume:

1. There is no Gruden, Dungy, or Cowher that is going to take this job until the scandal is bookended by jury convictions and the results of the NCAA investigation.

2. A “2nd tier” coaching hire would nuke the existing staff and we essentially start over on all levels of coaching. No cherry picking LJ Sr. or Vandy if we get some guy.

3. Urban Meyer is about to completely dominate recruiting until we name a HC.

Scrap is a great defensive coach, a great recruiter, and a great Penn Stater. With his defenses and just a modest offense we can be perennial contenders with Ohio State. If he simply fires everyone on the offensive coaching staff and brings in a new hotshot OC we instantly become a contender. If we bring in some guy like Mullen or Patterson we’re 5 seasons off from anything special happening.

Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it

by millzners on Nov 29, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Mostly agree..

I will say that the stipulation on Scrap is that he has to retain most of his coordinators. We simply don’t know how/if he could maintain top 10 units without Vandy and LJ.

I’d like to think that guys like Mullen/Petersen/Patterson could turn things around in less than 5 years. But if they’re more “system-based” you’re looking at 1-2 years until they have their guys in place.

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 29, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think all of them could win on some level next year.

Petersen and Patterson run pretty normal pro-style offenses. Mullen’s a bit different, but we have seen his offenses utilize talent effectively.

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by Adam Collyer on Nov 29, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Boise is pro-style?

They seem to throw the ball a lot. I don’t really watch them unless they’re on prime time.

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 29, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

They use what they have

They threw the ball a ton last year because they had Moore, Pettis and Young. They ran the ball a lot more this year because they had a really good RB in Doug Martin.

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by Peter Gray on Nov 29, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

That's what I've seen.

It’s one of the reasons I really like Petersen.

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by Adam Collyer on Nov 29, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be interested in one of our

stat monkeys showing the pass/run split in the NFL this year. There’s been a steady trend overall toward the importance of the QB.

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by rahpsu92 on Nov 29, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

also..for recruiting alone..

LJ is a homerun in the DC area and Vandy has done well out in the Midwest. You’d like to keep that around.

by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 29, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Do the guys on the current

staff even like eachother? Is there any base to the rumors floating around in this and years past about the staff being divided – was it Off/Def? Would this be the push LJ SR needed to go tend his flock?

He completed 17 of individuals 26 passes for 192 lanscaping your yard and two touchdowns - Chan Luu

by rahpsu92 on Nov 29, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

There are rumors that Bradley and LJ are nowhere near amicable.

There are other rumors that LJ had expressed an interest to hang it up and get more involved with his church when Joe left, which is admirable. I hate to see the man go, but I don’t see him sticking around under most circumstances.

Galen is done as well. No one is going to keep him around, including Bradley, and he’ll likely retire as well. Vandy, Buggs, Anderson will find new employement, as well as Robinson and Golden if they are not retained (really the only ones I can see being retained as young talent with zero connections to The Incidents).

Jay is…Jay. And I’ll leave it at that.

So even if Bradley is the guy, the new makeup would likely be quite different.

by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 29, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Anderson has said he's

wanted to retire for years but stuck around at Joe’s request. Bill Kenney and the S&C crew are out there too.

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by rahpsu92 on Nov 29, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Kenney will land somewhere.

He’s taken over the RC spot in MM’s absence and we’ve only had one decommit (so far) in the wake of this. That has to count for something.

by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 29, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I've asked this before and I mean it seriousely

will Spider be OK?

Today is the day I died inside 11/9/11

by letsgopsu on Nov 29, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words, you're not getting PSU minus Paterno

your getting Bradley + a whole new staff, which I think is pretty exciting. The offense is the problem. Scrap can gameplan defensively and recruit.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 29, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sold on him as a recruiter.

He hasn’t exactly locked down western PA (only Jesse James and JP Holtz are from the area in the Class of ’12, with Holtz apparently an eventual decommit). I will say, though, he appears to be hitting the trail hard this week.

by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 29, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, I'll give you five years (after all, "What have you done for me lately?")...

Class of: (all stars per Scout)
’12 – Jesse James (3* OL/TE), JP Holtz (4* TE [down to Soft Verbal status])
’11 – Shyquawn Pullium (3* DB [never made it/JUCO])
’10 – Mike Hull (5* LB), Luke Graham (3* OT), Paul Jones (5* QB), Miles Dieffenbach (5* OL), Tom Ricketts (4* OL [transferred to Pitt]), Shyquawn Pullium (3* DB [prep school instead])
’09 – Adam Gress (3* OL)
’08 – Mike Farrell (2* OL), Mike Yancich (4* LB/TE)
’07 – Nick Sukay (4* DB), Jon Ditto (4* TE [played for IUP instead]), Stefen Wisniewski (4* OL)

Sure, some solid talent (Wiz). But I wouldn’t put Bradley on the same level as LJ or some other recruiters around the country.

Also, I’m sure I’m missing some. These are simply the ones from western PA, Bradley’s home turf.

Also also, we could cover recruiting misses as well, but I don’t feel like doing that kind of digging.

by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 29, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

So all that will be left

is Spider. Oh wait. He HAD to know….

by cs93 on Nov 29, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I am really worried about Spider

not being silly or sarcastic

Today is the day I died inside 11/9/11

by letsgopsu on Nov 29, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear ya

I was only half joking. I have friends that have worked the sidelines and everyone agrees he’s a great guy. It would be a real sad statement if he becomes a casualty of this fiasco.

by cs93 on Dec 1, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

my thoughts on next coach

1. How do we know what Bradley or Jay philosophy on offense or defense truly is? Joe probably had them on a short leash plus Jay had to share duties with Hall so who knows what he would’ve done on his own.

2. I would prefer an unknown coach with lots of upside than a star coach like Dungy. How often do the star coaches fail. Spurier, Weiss, Shula, etc.

3. Doesn’t the situation with the whole guilt by association thing remind you of the old Soviet regime? Any association with the past is like a death mark.

Personally I would like to see Bradley get the job but I think you could paste the devil with a snowball before that would happen.

by wvpsufan on Nov 29, 2011 12:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

If someone can photoshop a picture with Paterno

in this exact manner I will cry tears of joy. Pentimental?

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 29, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

A few words on my lunch break.

I love Bradley, he is one of the nicest people in the world, and if he is the choice, he has definitely earned it. His defenses, for all of the guff we give them (BBDS), are still pretty damn good. And the offenses he allowed to run over the past three games were pretty good, and allowed us to play some players up to their strengths (Belton, Drake).

However, in the eyes of public perception, which is DEFINITELY a driving force, he is toxic by association. Merely being on staff for the past 30 years makes him guilty, and his retention will be derided publicly for years as “circling the wagons” and not addressing the root of the problem by cleaning house. It is because of this fact alone that I don’t think he’ll be the choice. But as I tweeted yesterday (after some RTs of BWI’s Ryan Snyder), Bradley and Co. are going out like gentlemen, taking time all this week to visit as many commits and recruits as they can. If they are doing nothing else other than reassuring these kids that things will be better in Happy Valley, that’s extremely commendable.

Alternatively, I’m not sure where I stand on the next choice. The majority of the fan base, if you look past Tom Bradley as a choice, seems to be searching for the “Urban Meyer” Home Run Hire. I’m not sure that guy is out there, and the closest thing might be Dan Mullen. Not saying Mullen’s a bad choice, just that there aren’t any home runs out there that are likely in play here.

The other route, the “Brady Hoke” Relative Unknown Hire is intriguing. A guy like Tim Murphy would fill this role. A relative unknown to the fan base, though one that fits every non-football characterisitc we’re looking for who also has some decent football street cred. It’s a tough call here, and the committee has a tough road ahead (not to mention the fact that one of the committee members is playing for a fifth straight championship this month).

by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 29, 2011 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

to extend this metaphor

I’m not sure we even ought to be trying for a homerun, given that it’s more likely in so trying we’ll strike out. Let’s just get a single or double and put ourselves in a position to score with the next batter; in other words, bring someone in to just essentially tread water and hope the program stays afloat for the next five years or so before, perhaps, trying to hire that next big guy.

I think Bradley is a walk, and that seems like a pretty wise option. Tim Murphy seems like a single-hitter.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 29, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

But the fanbase demands results yesterday.

Bringing in a guy to essentially hold down the fort won’t cut it with a lot of folks. You can take a chance on the next big coordinator (I’m not sure who that is outside of PSU…who are the hot OCs and DCs today?), but that’s a big risk.

by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 29, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

the interwebs have practically melted due to PSU NOT BEING ELITE. If the administration raises the white flag and hires somebody to bring in a 7-5/8-4 annual season, oh my goodness.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Nov 29, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That's why you need to take the best person possible

I dont like the idea of “4 or 5 years until we can get someone better”. I want “whomever will win us the most games”.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 29, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

do you really want someone who will win us the most games?

Because that person is probably Jim Tressel, but I doubt you actually want him to be hired.

The truth is that Joe Paterno and the PSU community has always defined the football program’s success by metrics in addition to wins and losses. Graduation rates matter. So does the team’s behavior off and on the field.

The sad reality is that there is not a clear homerun choice available right now, outside perhaps Tressel, who probably isn’t taking any jobs, certainly not the PSU job. Given that reality, choosing someone who is a clear homerun for all of the other things that PSU football stands for and the community supports while the dust settles from teh Sandusky scandal is not a bad play. It might be the best play. And you never know, that person could actually turn out to be good at winning games.

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Nov 29, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I'm not saying only winning matters

alll the standards we held to before should remain. I just hate the idea we have to settle for someone who may not be the best choice, simply because he needs to be some caretender until our savior arrives. Basically I dont want to see a hire made because its what looks good to the outside, and not what is best for the program going forward.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 29, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen!

The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.

We (Still) Are...

by PSU_Buch on Nov 29, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that was the best metaphor I'd heard.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Nov 29, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The other one I like is, "Use a scalpel, not an ax."

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by Adam Collyer on Nov 29, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll rec this all day.

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by Adam Collyer on Nov 29, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a good metaphor

but even in cancer treatment they change the recommended course depending on what the cancer actually is and what the consequences are of missing some.

by M1EK on Nov 29, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea

they usually don’t chop off your arm before they determine that the cancer was actually in your leg.

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by jman07 on Nov 29, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I could answer that question

About the circle the wagons but it makes me look like a nerd….

Screw it.

It was a defensive mechanism for fighting attacking Indian tribes in the west, when the white man was traveling that way. Cricle the wagons to make a small fort.

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by AriesGD on Nov 30, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

No, actually.

If there’s a cancer that has a good chance of killing you in the next month, they often do go with a more aggressive treatment that has a better chance of keeping you alive in the long-run rather than waiting for tests that might take a month to even show anything.

by M1EK on Nov 29, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn't work.

No one is trying to kill all the cells. There is no way PSU will ever escape The Scandal; we will always be associated with it. As for the coaches, if Clean Sweep is the approach taken, it’s not like Bradley, et al. will be on the street with their hats in their hands. Bradley will catch on as a top-tier DC, or can even step to the MAC or MAC-like school for a HC spot. LJ could be in line for a DC spot (Maryland?) if he chooses to stay in coaching. The list goes on. It’s more of a parting ways approach, if that’s how the school chooses to go.

by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 29, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you really think

that they’ll catch jobs that easily? It seems to me, if all of the coaches are that tainted by this scandal, they’re going to have a hard time getting coaching jobs anywhere at any level.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Nov 30, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

What about:

Mike Fisher
Jack Del Rio

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by TJM5054 on Nov 29, 2011 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

If you want to get really into the NFL coaching thing

Andy Reid is about half a cheesesteak away from getting forced out of Philly and that leaves a lot of NFL coordinators looking for jobs. One of them has a son who committed to Penn State.

If you ask me, Morningweig is a dark horse candidate for at least the next OC.

Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it

by millzners on Nov 29, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I may be his only fan in the city

I think that says more about me than anyone else, but I think he is a beyond excelletn QB coach.

by STU Boy on Nov 29, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree 100%

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Nov 29, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

If you look at OC’s in the college arena, your basically judged on developing QB’s, and scoring points. He’d likely be fantastic at developing QB’s given he’s done wonders for Vick and Young who aren’t prototypical NFL QB’s.

Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it

by millzners on Nov 29, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

And McNabb

It’s no coincidence McNabb’s best years came with Morningweig.

by STU Boy on Nov 29, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

"he’s done wonders for...Young "

I wouldn’t go that far, I think that VY stinks, I’ve seen no improvement from him since he came to the Eagles and believe me, there was a lot to improve.

Run.

by Bob Sacamano on Nov 30, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

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by Peter Gray on Nov 29, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Bradley For HC

I really have to believe that Bradley was unaware of anything with Sandusky. He has to know that the investigation would reveal it, if he was aware anything. He is certainly smart enough to not put himself in that situation. I believe that he is best option of any of the realistic options that have been mentioned.

by Army COL on Nov 29, 2011 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

Bradley's image with us

I believe Bradley didn’t know anything too. The problem is the rest of the country likely doesn’t believe that, and isn’t going to just take our word on it either.

Nonetheless, I continue to believe Bradley should be the guy because the outside options that have a decent chance of matching or exceeding Bradley wouldn’t touch us with a ten foot pole. But I understand why others wouldn’t go that way.

by M1EK on Nov 29, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hire him.

Tom Bradley deserves the job. He’ll be a damn good coach and seems like a heck of a good guy. You want a leader that will continue to make the university proud in the midst of this mess? He’s right in front of your face. Keep LJ. Keep Vanderlinden. Seek offensive help.

by stevenreedkelly on Nov 29, 2011 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

I like Bradley and hope he's the next coach

I like Dan Mullen too, but unless Tim Tebow is about to commit to PSU I have my doubts about the ability of his offense to work in the B1G.

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by ckmneon on Nov 29, 2011 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

Tom Bradley

This is not the time for sentimentality….. Tom Bradley may be a fine fellow and top-notch guy ~~ a helluva defensive coordinator, too….. His potential as a head coach may be that of genius….. Hopefully, we’ll never know, because Tom Bradley should NOT be the next head coach of Penn State football!

The new head coach must have NO ties to the Joe Paterno era, neither attempting to fill the shoes of JoPa nor standing in the shadow of the Sandusky scandal.

Tom Bradley coached under JoPa for 33-years….. JoPa’s inner-circle….. Is it possible he had no knowledge of Sandusky’s lust for young boys? If you want to play games with my question, let me say, “Yes, it IS possible!” But, it is NOT probable!

Bradley could NOT coach without the shadow of the scandal following him as surely as his own shadow on a sunny day! Harsh, you might say, but true.

The new head coach at Penn State must be 100% free of any association with the JoPa era….. As sad as that is to say, it nonetheless is the overruling fact of the search for a new coach.

Life is not easy ~~ nor is it fair….. Just ask one of Sandusky’s victims……

by CinemaNoir on Nov 29, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

skarocksoi

Well, skarocksoi, just why do you think there is a search for a new head coach???

Sadly, the reason is spelled V-I-C-T-I-M-S…..

by CinemaNoir on Nov 29, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

that is pretty inappropriate. If you’re really interested in the victims here, donate to RAINN. Thats really all the further I’m going to go with this.

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by skarocksoi on Nov 29, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I know its been said

but if theyre gonna look towards the NFL then whats wrong with Jeff Fisher? He was a pretty successful coach for a long time. He is a headstrong guy who cares about his players, but more so about the team as a whole. Cant exactly remember his offensive coaching style, but he seems like a worthy guy to look at. Pure speculation clearly.

As for Mullen, I just cant get by the original article about him. That spread offense is a little dated and like someone else said, we dont have Tebow. Just does not seem like a good idea from a football standpoint at all.

I hope they stay away from Dungy, Gruden, and Cowher. Cant imagine they would look towards Tressel seeing as he too is a crook. And I dont know much about Del Rio. Im sure more names will come out of nowhere in the coming days.

by pf289 on Nov 29, 2011 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

This would as an added bonus

confuse and infuriate the cow homers around me for years. They are just absolutely convinced Fisher sat Vince Young out of nothing more than spite for years (most recently to let Kerry Collins start). They will likely assume there was a conspiracy between Penn State and the Titans, which would be amusing to watch.

Problem is I don’t think Fisher is all that great a coach, and he also seems to be a jerk.

by M1EK on Nov 30, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

where do you live dude?

that everyone is a conspiracy theorist? About everything, apparently.

Today is the day I died inside 11/9/11

by letsgopsu on Nov 30, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

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