Penn State Ranked 12th In Coaches' Poll, And Now The Real Season Begins
So full disclosure: it's hard to find this very compelling right now given this indescribable Sandusky thing, but at some point the show must go on, and maybe it's best to compartmentalize the current team and their efforts with a story that isn't just about sports anymore. That being said, the football team continues their improbably path, although here's what a great defense and backloaded schedule will get you in the USA Today Coaches' Poll:
12. Penn State (from 15)
13. Michigan State (from 16)
14. Wisconsin (from 17)
17. Nebraska (from 9)
21. Michigan (from 13)
No one bought the Michigan-Iowa line when it came out around 3, but that's why those things happen. They continue their pattern of beating the hell out of overmatched schools, knocking around Notre Dame (5 of last 6) and generally winning in September, but then not actually being a very good football team.
Meanwhile Ohio State steadily gets their identity, Michigan State rebounds, and Wisconsin scores 48 or more for the sixth time this season. And Oh Boy Nebraska; just when it looked like they were in the driver seat in their freshman year, it turns out the Northwestern curse over Iowa extends much further into the plains than anyone thought.
And the projected BCS standings? Penn State leads the conference there as well.
1. LSU, 2. Oklahoma State, 3. Alabama, 4. Stanford, 5. Boise State, 6. Oklahoma, 7. Arkansas, 8. Oregon, 9. Clemson, 10. Virginia Tech, 11. Houston, 12. Penn State, 13. Kansas State, 14. South Carolina, 15. Michigan State.
The Alabama loss hurts but probably not very much if they do in fact remain at three. Michigan's loss helps in the computers since they're off the schedule.
LSU & Alabama, Ok St. & Oklahoma and potentially Stanford seem to have the marked cornered at the top -- although check out 2007 for a lesson in how valuable that is with this much football to play -- along with two of the at large bids. That leaves the Big Ten, Pac 12, ACC and Houston to fight it out over the remaining two spots.
Penn State sits on top of the Big Ten at Sagarin's digs, but man does his Predictor hate it when you win like this.
Big Ten Standings.
Pig
Penn State 5-0 (3-0)
Ohio State 3-2 (3-0)
Wisconsin 3-2 (2-1)
Purdue 2-3 (1-2)
Illinois 2-3 (1-3)
Indiana 0-6 (0-4)
Corn
Michigan State 4-1 (2-1)
Iowa 3-2 (2-1)
Nebraska 3-2 (2-1)
Michigan 3-2 (2-2)
Minnesota 1-4(1-3)
Northwestern 2-4 (1-2)
We're not tracking divisional records in parenthesis because, frankly, this thing is a mess. Your tiebreakers go like this:
1. Conference record
2. Head-to-head record
3. Record within the division
4. BCS ranking
With some wrinkles you may be interested in, specifically if teams are within one spot in the BCS standings, which isn't out of the realm of possibilities now that we have three right in a row in the Coaches' Poll.
The Roadmap To Indy. The first option is pretty simple: lose no more than once, and to anyone. Of course this season is so wacky Wisconsin could lose to Illinois, Ohio State to Michigan, and then the bar gets even lower.
The Mathlete says Penn State has a slight edge to hold on over Wisconsin. The way things line up both over there and on the more qualitative end, the move seem to be to kick Nebraska while they're fans are leaving early against Northwestern, then sell out against an Ohio State team committed to a true freshman quarterback.
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Sounds like Missou to the SEC is official Houston Nutt is getting the boot.
Oh and: “High-ranking source in SEC tells me Mizzou definitely going to the East. Gators have a new rival. Bama didn’t want to lose UT. Story up soon”
by Kevin Powers on Nov 6, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Seconded.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes . . . you'll never go platinum.
#OccupyESPN
Thirded.
A plateau is a high form of flattery.
by Assorted Fruit on Nov 6, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Infinitied.
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
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by SarcasmJam on Nov 6, 2011 2:01 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
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Follow @134Lounge
by skarocksoi on Nov 6, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"To infinity and Beyond"!
I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
by PaJoe on Nov 6, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I LOVE those movies!!!
Wife and I cried while watching the third one — it came out a year or so after older son left for college.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Did you know that Steve Jobs
Was the man that turned around Pixar? He was even in the credits for the first Toy Story.
by archerbullseye on Nov 6, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep. He has some genius ideas.
Not sure how I felt about him as a person, but as an innovator and businessman he will be truly missed.
Fire Dan Snyder
Agree
I was not in favor to the world reaction of his death.. He was not as good of a person as people make him out to be.. He was smart but if you think of what he did for the world at large.. an iPhone doesn’t account for much when it comes to humanity.
by archerbullseye on Nov 6, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Might night have been the nicest guy, but it’s hard to argue the technology he created didn’t revolutionize lives. Check out the 60 Minutes on the iPad and autism as an example. My interpretation of the reaction to his death was that we lost an irreplaceable guy, both the good parts and the bad.
by Kevin Powers on Nov 7, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really think the next two are winnable games
Nebby looks like their D is not ready for prime time (hasn’t really all season). Their QB can turn into a sobbing basket case if you stare at him hard enough. tOSU is getting better but they still look suspect to my eyes. I just don’t think they’re for real and our D is WAY improved over last year’s model and our O line is playing much better too. IF McGloin limits mistakes and IF our receivers find a way to hold onto the ball and IF the coaches remain distant from the distractions of the news and create game plans that are aggressive, Nebraska and tOSU should be wins. Wisconsin scares me, but even that can be a W if the gods smile favorably upon the numerous sacrifices I am planning.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
So who had money on PSU being the highest rated B10 team on November 6th?
Because it certainly wasn’t me.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Scott Wolf
continually rated each week as the worst AP pollster and generally hates the Big Ten
oh, ok
the headline on this post is “Penn State ranked 12th in coaches poll” so I thought it was coaches’.
Fire Dan Snyder
Noon kickoff for Nebraska
Really sucks.
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln
by SarcasmJam on Nov 6, 2011 1:59 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
on the bright side
it’s easier to go to the basketball game after than to skip out on tailgating. If we win, I want to see the BJC full for Pat’s debut.
@devon2012. Follow me.
by Devon Edwards on Nov 6, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Stupid Northwestern
Nebraska wins that game and stays a top ten team, and we waltz into a 3:30 kick.
JERKS.
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 6, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
In what sense?
networks are afraid people will tune out due to disappointment with PSU admin?
Maybe. Not like there’s a precedent for this sort of thing.
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 7, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think they didn't want to bring publicity
and wasn’t the 3:30 game on ABC? So, if they have a regional network game in our stadium the week after these charges surface…
Maybe I’m going all third gunman here, but I would not be surprised if TPTB wouldn’t want to associate with this negative story if they can at all help it.
Fire Dan Snyder
how
Does this game get the noon slot when the 3:30 games are michigan Illinois and Wisconsin minnesota?? It’s still two top 20 teams despite this situation an Nebraska losing….
by va2pennstate on Nov 6, 2011 4:30 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Nobody loses close games like PSU's former opponents
Alabama, Temple, and Eastern Michigan all lost by a combined 6 points this past week. Arizona State (who lost to Illinois, who was arguably PSU’s best win, so was really helping PSU in the computers) lost a 1 point game.
jNW technically won a 3-points-or-less game, but anyone who watched that game knows it was not that close. jNW led for the entirety of the last 47 minutes, and 3 separate times had 10+ point leads, on the road. Nebraska never led, and might have been gifted a 2 point conversion to cut it to 3. I’m not convinced Martinez got in.
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
So
You’re telling me there’s a chance.
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln
by SarcasmJam on Nov 6, 2011 5:14 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
I'm saying this team is better than they appear in the computers
Change the results of those 3 games and Iowa’s 2 losses by a combined 1 point, and PSU is a consensus top 10 team, borderline top 5, in the computers
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
True
But none of that will matter if we lose Saturday. If we win, we will be consensus top 10. Then that will only matter until we beat tO$U.
#teamfocus
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln
by SarcasmJam on Nov 6, 2011 5:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
how does Iowa lose twice by a combined 1 point?
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by Devon Edwards on Nov 6, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
not sure if this is rhetorical or serious
At the end of 4 quarters:
Iowa 24
Iowa State 24
Iowa 21
Minnesota 22
Both were road games. In each game, Iowa led for over 20 minutes. Between the two games, Iowa trailed for a total of 3 minutes.
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
Overtime is a thing.
@devon2012. Follow me.
by Devon Edwards on Nov 7, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
OT points are fake points
Once you take out kickoffs and punters, it’s not football
GO IOWA AWESOME, now and forever, unless PSU sees them in the B1G CG
Beat Nebraska.
BCS Countdown
Kirk just said Penn State has “NO SHOT” at making the BCS.
Horse Shit.
We are not normal...WE are Legends...We are PENN STATE!
by hawaiipennstatefan on Nov 6, 2011 8:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Was he talking specifically as an at large?
That would probably be pretty factually correct. Otherwise, that’s a pretty dumb statement from a guy that’s usually pretty good at his job. Or it could just be the ESPN line.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Everytime my wife..
sees Kirk on the TV she is like:
“At least he wears deodorant”
Stupid Dove commercial…
by archerbullseye on Nov 6, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
does she also get the lovey-dovey eyes?
I don’t.
Okay, maybe I do.
Okay, there’s no maybe about it. Perhaps this belongs in the confessional thread, but I THINK A BUCKEYE IS PRETTY.
Fire Dan Snyder
*gasp*
SHAME ON YOU!
And no, she just rolls her eyes.. She does know his name but refuses to call him by it.
by archerbullseye on Nov 6, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Does he say..
“The Ohio State University” when he is talking about them?
If he doesnt, then ill forgive you…
by archerbullseye on Nov 6, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
nope
just said, we have no offense and disregarded us in less in than a sentence.
We are not normal...WE are Legends...We are PENN STATE!
by hawaiipennstatefan on Nov 6, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Good.
This team thrives on crap like that. I hope it keeps working.
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln
by SarcasmJam on Nov 7, 2011 5:36 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs

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