Reconstruction Begins: Graham Spanier Resigns Tonight, Rodney Erickson Reportedly Starts Tomorrow
by Kevin Powers on Nov 9, 2011 5:09 PM EST
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PrintWhile it's likely an interim positions to start, BWI's Nate Bauer is reporting that Graham Spanier will submit his resignation tonight to the BOD, to be replaced initially -- and perhaps permanently -- by current Executive Vice President and Provost Dr. Rodney A. Erickson.
Erickson's current stint at Penn State began in 1999; his role has been running academic operations. He holds B.A. and M.A. degrees from the University of Minnesota. His pitch reads like this:
As chief academic officer, Provost Erickson is firmly committed to the goals of enhancing academic excellence at Penn State through greater support of high-quality teaching, research, and service; enhancing the educational experiences of Penn State students; building a more diverse and caring University community; and serving the people of the Commonwealth and beyond. Dr. Erickson and all units organized under the Office of the Executive Vice President and Provost value your ideas and suggestions on ways to achieve our educational goals at Penn State.
There's also the issue of getting to the root of the massive administrative failure. The BOD will begin it's Special Committee process, which is explained in full in yesterday's press release:
At its regular meeting on Friday, November 11, 2011, the Board will appoint a Special Committee, members of which are currently being identified, to undertake a full and complete investigation of the circumstances that gave rise to the Grand Jury Report. This Special Committee will be commissioned to determine what failures occurred, who is responsible and what measures are necessary to insure that this never happens at our University again and that those responsible are held fully accountable. The Special Committee will have whatever resources are necessary to thoroughly fulfill its charge, including independent counsel and investigative teams, and there will be no restrictions placed on its scope or activities. Upon the completion of this investigation, a complete report will be presented at a future public session of the Board of Trustees.
While it's easy to demand Action Now in these kinds of situations, its probably worth admitting the BOD has been relatively prompt given the red tape they're forced to operate under, not to mention the gravity of both the exit and invitation decisions.
And of course this is all just the first few steps of a long road to travel. There are the victims, which need re-focused on. The trial. Potential government intervention and investigations. Likely a more formal search for the next President of The Pennsylvania State University, not to mention the other positions that will be left vacant between now and early January.
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The proverbial "Silver Lining"
Good riddance.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
by PSU_Buch on Nov 9, 2011 5:17 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
As of now
I’m not sure I trust any of the inner-circle of top executives of this school. I’d rather see an outside person be the permanent fixture.
by Rogue Nine on Nov 9, 2011 5:19 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed
That’s why I would’ve liked to see Tom Ridge be an interim president to help clean things up.
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Nov 9, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Best interim president option:
Joseph Vincent Paterno.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Snerk.. I just snorted my coffee
I hope to God you weren’t serious
"It's all in the game, yo"
by Worf on Nov 9, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was,
but personally I think it would be awesome. I hope no one flags my above comment.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope our bench is deeper than Tom "Duct Tape" Ridge.
Just because he has a big name and no direct PSU connection doesn’t make Tom Ride a good candidate for cleaning house. He’s an insider’s insider.
by tonycpsu on Nov 9, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For your consideration:
Handsome, grizzled, mentored by Picard, has handled intergalactic crises with grace, and oh yeah, a PSU alum.
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 9, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I swear I'm the only one who does not like that show
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 9, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
I don't really like it
solely because they make the dad a buffoon, and I’m sick of seeing that in shows these days.
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i beg to dffer is ti too sooon to post her picture?
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like he's ready for the job!
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Nov 9, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Aww crap!
I just snorted beer through my nose.. thanks, needed that!
by MicrobrewPSU on Nov 9, 2011 9:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
BREAKING: Jonathan Frakes Buys a House in Boalsburg
Oh wait. That was his parents. Like 50 years ago. BUT STILL!
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 9, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Also tilts forward and has blown up the Enterprise.
Allegedly. Kind of like Craig James allegedly killing 5 hookers at SMU.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 9, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Woohoo
ESPN URL shout-out!
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
Cool! That's great for Ben!
Bad things happen to people that don't deserve it. Look at Joe Paterno
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Nov 9, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
This might explain some of the new visitors this afternoon
Then again, dickheads would have found BSD somehow, I suppose.
Ah, so THAT's what Ben looks like!
Wait… is Ben really Joe Paterno?
Has Joe been secretly feeding us info from inside his command center all week?
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 9, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever happens going forward
it cannot be with any current PSU administrator — even if it’s the person in charge of the cafeteria — at the helm.
Outsider who brings in outsiders and says, “No more”
"It's all in the game, yo"
by Worf on Nov 9, 2011 5:31 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I have to imagine this is interim
You need to get someone from the outside but I agree that’s almost impossible to do given the short time frame during which swift action needed to occur.
What is Gen Colin Powell up to these days?
just sayin…
16365 native
by SNOI7 on Nov 9, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
link fail
http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_19298106?source=rss
"Put it to the floor, hold on, and watch the mud fly!"
Anyone read Jemele Hill's article on ESPN?
I kind of want to hit her. It’s not that shes necessarily wrong, it’s just the whole tone of the article.
"It's not just linebackers. This is Penn State linebackers, man. We're a certain type. We've gotta be aggressive, relentless, focused. Don't talk. Don't talk at all. We don't showboat or anything. We just play hard and get the job done." -Khairi Fortt
by HighFlyers on Nov 9, 2011 5:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The wolves are circling
I’m not 100% convinced Joe runs out Saturday
Not because of this article, but step outside of BSD or ESPN a minute and shit is not looking good. Anywhere
And I can’t say it’s not justified.
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
by hbeach08 on Nov 9, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
It’s a complete failure by the University.
The DA’s announcement on Saturday left ample room for the University to paint Paterno in a positive light. Instead, they remained silent. It sounds like Joe was eager to talk about it himself yesterday, to at least begin to tell his side of the story. But the University shut him down, and continued to remain silent.
I don’t want to think things are beyond repair, but at this point, the public is too much of an angry mob to deal with.
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 9, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
I want to think that the University is trying to keep him quiet
But at this point I’m having a hard time why he hasn’t spoken yet if that’s the case.
Keep in mind
He could still be called as a prosecution witness in 3, maybe more, criminal trials.
Even if he’s not under gag order, he could still have been advised to not make any statements of fact regarding this whole mess.
My guess is Joe’s once again trying to right the best he can and at some point down the road, all of this will come out, whether in a trial or in a book.
by nylyst on Nov 9, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If that were the case, he could still come out and say just that
But if anyone has earned the benefit of doubt, it’s a man who’s done things the right way for longer than I’ve been alive. As such, I’ll reserve judgment until the facts are all out there.
Civil case
They don’t want Joe tomtalk because of the multiple millions of dollarsbin civil liability the universinand Joe individually, are facing when the lawsuits start. The institution covered it’s eyes and worse covered up what high level officials knew was happening on it’s grounds, bybone of their own. Disgusting and costly. Think Catholic church.
neither Tony nor Mike on PTI thought he should coach this weekend
Basically said “we don’t know what he knew but we’re gonna assume it was awful, so he should go away”. Hooray instant judgment!
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Nov 9, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
I'm on the fence.
People want to see him on Saturday. Clearly there’s a groundswell of support for him, no matter how reprehensible I think that is. My compromise — let him come out of the tunnel one last time on Saturday, and that’s it. Then, Bradley leads the team at Ohio State and Wisconsin.
by Chris Grovich on Nov 9, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Do you really think that's substantially different than letting him coach out the last 3?
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
I do.
It gives the fans one last chance to see Joe, and it sends a message as to the seriousness of the situation.
by Chris Grovich on Nov 9, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think it says,
we want him gone because his actions are unforgiveable, but not enough to deny him one last home game, which is ridiculous. In terms of seriousness, it says: regular Big Ten away games < sex abuse cover up < farewell to a football coach.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ehh I disagree, but either way it doesn’t matter because as of right now, he is gonna coach the last 3. Thats all we know and thats all that matter now.
The last 5.
No matter what you think about the current situation, support the players, they deserve our respect.
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by Paige2PSU on Nov 9, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
May we get to see
The sun set over the San Gabriel mountains to end this season that we’ll never forget for all the right and wrong reasons.
I agree with this...
One more shot at home and then off into the sunset. I cannot imagine what C-Bus will have waiting for us the next week. It is going to suck
Follow @TheMightyErik
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Nov 9, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe one day
you will say something I agree with, but I am not so sure.
by FB6244 on Nov 9, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You realize that I really don't care, right?
by Chris Grovich on Nov 9, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Sorta unrelated, but there was an article up on the Nebraska game
It’s gone now. What happened to it?
Bad things happen to people that don't deserve it. Look at Joe Paterno
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Nov 9, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
The sponsor told SB Nation they wanted out, I didn't get the email until after it was posted.
by Chris Grovich on Nov 9, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Man, I didn't even notice it had a sponsor
But roger that then.
Bad things happen to people that don't deserve it. Look at Joe Paterno
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Nov 9, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't expect you too
But I do have hope one day you will wise up. It was you who changed the tag line up top too, didn’t you?
I do. I think he’s earned one last walk out the tunnel.
But after that, he can’t be allowed to make his own decision here. It’s out of his hands or at least, it should be.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I don't really think it's about what he's earned
It’s really about what he deserves. Does he deserve to be fired?
He can’t be fired for violating any University policy.
He can’t be fired for any ongoing criminal charges or investigation.
Can he really be fired because a lot of people are mad at him as the largest public figure at a University that is involved in a scandal?
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
So far everyone else has resigned as opposed to being fired. Joe will clearly not resign so he has pretty much forced the school’s hand by saying he is done at the end of the year.
And yes he can be fired, not for the reason you mentioned but because the University feels he did not act in the best interest of the school. If they feel that way.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Everyone else has NOT resigned
Let’s not forget that Curley is on administrative leave.
Also, the reason Joe is in this mess is because he followed the University’s policy verbatim. I’m sure they still could fire him, but they probably shouldn’t.
What they should do and what they can do are two different things. Obviously since that is kind of the crux of the whole situation here.
As for Curley, yeah I argued that earlier before and people kept saying that his leave is essentially the same thing as a resignation.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Yeah I remember you saying that
The major difference is that administrative leave leaves him open to coming back, or getting a fat severance / retirement package.
I would actually argue that his retirement is a resignation.
He’s just not doing it immediately. Absent this scandal, Joe would not have announced his retirement mid-season. His had has been forced by circumstance.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Is it a resignation if you don’t have a contract at the end of the year?
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
When you’re 84 (is that right?) and you don’t retire on your own terms, it’s resignation. That’s a simplification, but accurate here, I believe.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
hes doing what would benefit the orgainzation and his team.
at the same time. he knows resigning mid season is not fair to these seniors.
keep winning ugly
Dude, how could the University say
“Mr. Paterno did not act in the best interest of the school” with a straight face. He’s the only one that’s carried themselves with decency in this whole ordeal.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
The University hasn’t said anything. And now two people have resigned and one is on leave.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
one re-retired, not resigned
havent really seen or heard exactly what SPanier did.
My grammer skills need improved.
He's still hiding under his desk in Old Maine.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
He can be forced to resign immediately.
The forced resignation is often done for exactly the reasons you mentioned – you can’t pin anything solid on the person, but the PR is terrible.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you find the groundswell of support reprehensible?
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 9, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because this incident undoes a lifetime of good deeds.
/sarcasm
by mushdamma on Nov 9, 2011 8:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously, count me among the "reprehensible."
by mushdamma on Nov 9, 2011 8:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We're all entitled to our opinions.
My opinion is that people, no matter their previous good deeds, who don’t go to the police when there is clear evidence of pedophilia happening under their nose don’t deserve a pep rally outside their house. If it’s your son, your brother, or you in the shower with Gerry Sandusky, you’d probably be asking why Joe Paterno didn’t do everything he could to protect those kids.
I’m quite comfortable on this side of the issue. Sorry.
by Chris Grovich on Nov 9, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Gerry Sandusky
Of the Baltimore Ravens radio team kindly points out the “J”
by PSU Mudder on Nov 9, 2011 9:35 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Heh, saw that earlier this week.
I have an uncle Gerald who also goes by Jerry. Always confusing to write.
by Chris Grovich on Nov 9, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to hear Joe's testimony eventually.
But I agree he could have done more.
So could have McQueary. So could have Spanier/Curley/Schultz/Ray Gricar and state college police in 1998 (who by the way got a FUCKING confession from him).
It was a failure on every level.
by Artiefufkin10 on Nov 9, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
And I’m quite comfortable with the idea that I am not fit to cast stones. I would like to think that I would have done more (as you are so certain you would have). Life experience has taught me that all men are fallible, and frequently make poor decisions notwithstanding the content of their character or good intentions and deeds. I know I have.
What bothers me, and has bothered me since the start, is that people are quick to be sanctimonious and do not take into account how well-meaning people can still make mistakes. Big ones, even.
I am not a religious man, but I have learned to refrain from zealous criticism based upon a belief that “I would have done right” in a difficult situation. The entire tenor of your posts on this subject are based upon this very ideal. I envy your moral certainty, but cannot share it. The entire history of the human race points in the opposite direction.
Joe’s failure to do more is by no means excusable. It was an omission driven by, I’m sure, a desire to not really believe or deal with such a horrible allegation about a man who was, to that point, beloved. Failing to act in the face of such circumstances is not excuseable, but it is human, all too human.
Those who support Joe I think recognize that this one failure, even as gross as it was, was not born of malice. It shows that contrary to popular opinion Joe never was a saint. He is merely a man who has generally tried to do the right thing.
Likewise, those that support Joe are not “reprehensible,” as you so casually declare. They’re just people trying to defend a guy for all the good he has done.
by mushdamma on Nov 9, 2011 10:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think it would make the university seem weak and arbitrary. While that would be consistent, it would not be positive.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh
another article of someone jumping to conclusions based only
on only the GJ report
by mjs2103 on Nov 9, 2011 5:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, going on other sites isn't fun
The one part that gets me is her saying Sandusky is innocent until proven guilty, and then a few words later saying Joe needs to go immediately. How does that make sense?
"It's not just linebackers. This is Penn State linebackers, man. We're a certain type. We've gotta be aggressive, relentless, focused. Don't talk. Don't talk at all. We don't showboat or anything. We just play hard and get the job done." -Khairi Fortt
So, she gets some facts wrong, characterizes them as negatively as possible, then bases her judgment on that
This is what happen when no one at Penn State is making any attempt to steer the narrative.
Paterno announced his retirement to try to get the focus off himself. But with nothing else to focus on, the media apparently wants more blood from him.
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 9, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Thank you. Well said.
As I’ve said many times, we have a leadership vacuum. It allowed Joe to catch more than his fair share of the arrows, and it is allowing the media to fill information gaps with ever-increasing speculation.
At this point i’d take Alexander Haig telling everyone to calm down and that he’s in charge. (And yes, I know he died!)
Outstanding point here...
Humans are fundamentally narrative beings who will choose the most plausible story — unless of course there is only one damn story.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
I punished my eyes and read it
I’ve tried so hard to stay away from the pied piper crap on ESPN et al, but I read it for some reason. Inexplicably I stayed to the comments afterwards. I involuntarily typed "Jamele Hill doesnt “deserve” to do anything more than make me sandwiches. Which is insensitive to women and I don’t mean it, but my fingers could not help themselves to make an outburst.
You didn't say that because she's a woman.
You said that because she’s a no talent hack, right?
No matter what you think about the current situation, support the players, they deserve our respect.
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down paige
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
I meant that to be funny.
If that’s what he meant, then by all means, tell her to go make a fucking sandwich.
No matter what you think about the current situation, support the players, they deserve our respect.
Follow @Paige2PSU
Like you Paige, I abhor sexism...
But on this? Right On.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
absolutely
a grilled fucking cheese sandwich
Can't stand Hill
she’s another mockery of a journalist. Somehow she’ll pull the race card in this situation
Formerly known as kmart93
Black Shoe Diaries
Compromise, from a troll
Suspend Paterno for rest of season, but let him coach whatever Bowl game, then let him retire.
Lances the immediate boil. Takes wind out of media sails, and gives two months, the holidays, and probably 14 other scandals at other places time to get in the way of Paternos last game.
But I don’t care if the whole lot of them suffer a Bit more. Just playing devils advocate
"It's all in the game, yo"
by Worf on Nov 9, 2011 6:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Not the worst idea
and thank you for self-reporting yourself as a troll.
But Joe’s track record of SIXTY YEARS should buy him a bit more than that. People have a hard time remembering this, but he wasn’t the one who allegedly abused any kids.
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 9, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Who was?
I’ve been watching the news for like 15 minutes now and they haven’t told me.
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
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by skarocksoi on Nov 9, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Shameless attempt to get a job at ESPN:
Joe has personally abused every man, woman, and child on the planet.
A pandemic of cowardice sweeps the nation.
This all has caused me to turn on Two and a Half Men
:(
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Dude there are hotlines you can call.
A pandemic of cowardice sweeps the nation.
by WorldBFat on Nov 9, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What is your purpose here?
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
When you grow up
you will hopefully regret having conducted yourself in this way.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Maybe when I'm 84, I will
"It's all in the game, yo"
by Worf on Nov 9, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I flagged it
Not only has he trolled, but he’s admitted to trolling, and when given an opportunity to explain what his purpose is other than trolling, he responded with, basically “trolling” in so many words. It’s cheapening the community to have to deal with this, it’s almost impossible to have a real discussion.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
If one guy prevents you from having a real discussion
Thats a you problem
"It's all in the game, yo"
by Worf on Nov 9, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He's the same way on Bleed Cubbie Blue
Just trolls most threads and argues with people
Until someone else from the university steps up to start facing this thing, nothing Joe will do will be enough for the public.
The public is angry and wants blood, justifiably. But Joe has given more than enough by retiring.
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 9, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Paterno's the starting QB..
and he’s playing both O and D
I'm not rationalizing - I'm being totally irrational
I blame Bolden for all of this
McGloin for President he can occupy the QB and president role…..Until Paul Jones gets his grades in order
by UPSUPhilly on Nov 9, 2011 6:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
US Education Department to investigate Penn State's handling of child abuse case
The U.S. Department of Education will launch an investigation into whether Penn State University failed to comply with the Jeanne Clery Disclosure of Campus Security Policy and Campus Crime Statistics Act (the Clery Act) in regard to allegations of sex offenses on campus by a former school official. Former Penn State Defensive Coach Jerry Sandusky has been charged with sexually abusing several young boys over several years, including incidents on campus.
Under the Clery Act, colleges and universities are required to disclose the number of criminal offenses on campus that are reported each year. In addition, in certain cases, the institution must issue a timely warning if a reported crime represents a threat to the campus community. The U.S. Department of Education is responsible for Clery Act compliance.
Education Secretary Arne Duncan said, “If these allegations of sexual abuse are true then this is a horrible tragedy for those young boys. If it turns out that some people at the school knew of the abuse and did nothing or covered it up, that makes it even worse. Schools and school officials have a legal and moral responsibility to protect children and young people from violence and abuse.”
The investigation of Clery Act violations will be conducted by the Office of Federal Student Aid (FSA). DOE officials formally notified Penn State of the investigation in a letter today. As the FSA investigation proceeds, the Office for Civil Rights will also assess whether further investigations or enforcement actions are warranted.
by Bhawoh Jue Says Whatup on Nov 9, 2011 6:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Might as well pile on now
Contemplating filing a lawsuit against PSU, as their coverup of this alleged crime has caused me to be crazy non-productive at work this week, thus potentially negatively impacting my year-end bonus.
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 9, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
They'll release their 20 million dollar gov't report
in 2021.
"It's not just linebackers. This is Penn State linebackers, man. We're a certain type. We've gotta be aggressive, relentless, focused. Don't talk. Don't talk at all. We don't showboat or anything. We just play hard and get the job done." -Khairi Fortt
Anyone expect
the state of PA to further cut PSU’s budget appropriation next year? Yeah. Have fun with that tuition increase, kids.
It wouldn't surprise me if Corbett is already set to announce something of that nature tonight
Didn’t he call a press conference for 8:30?
Not sure this would be the time to announce that
Given the more pressing issues. But I agree, it’ll happen.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Unfair
Completely unfair. Good luck getting elected next term, Mr. Corbett.
by AlmostAYardShy on Nov 9, 2011 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
I don't disagree
But the fact that he of all people is holding a press conference after makes me question his motives in this.
by ppfcpp on Nov 9, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone see the PSU student interviewed on CNN?
I think his name was Tece. He gave a great interview and said many things that have been missing from the Penn State narrative. Jebus, a student did what no member of the administration has been able or willing to do.
by CvilleLion on Nov 9, 2011 7:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
OK for now.
Nobody local will do.
This entire mess is the upper mucky-mucks in town covering up a Crime by one of their own.
No local person can do the job, and get it done right.
New Broom, Sweep Clean.
Anyone who has their picture taken with Graham Spanier on the Old Main Steps should be disqualified.
I Know Nothing! They were just Horsing Around!
by joefromboalsburg on Nov 9, 2011 7:15 PM EST reply actions
I twice ate brunch at Graham Spanier's house
and have spoken to him several times. Am I able to ever hold any position of authority anywhere?
You might be right, but let’s be reasonable.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I've strongly disagreed with a lot of what Joe's said this weekend
And I don’t entirely agree that the entire upper levels need to be swept.
But I DO NOT want to see someone internal promoted to take the job on a non-interim basis. The next president has to be someone completely clean of what has happened, I don’t think we can be sure of anyone who already exists in the PSU hierarchy.
by Rogue Nine on Nov 9, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Met him
numerous times, but I’m not sure any photo evidence exists.
I think I’m still in the running…..
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 9, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
NBC Nightly News
U.S. Department of Education announced they will investigate to see if any federal laws were broken. And here I thought it couldn’t get any worse . . .
Dept of Ed investigation isn't that bad.
Congressional investigation is bad.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
No investigation is bad
I just want all the facts to come out.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I was sort of crudely trying to draw that distinction
Department of Ed will be thorough, take its time, etc. Congress will bloviate and politick, which accomplishes nothing.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right
I get you now, and you’re right on point.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
This was pretty much bound to happen at some point
With a case this big, a lot of people are going to be asking a lot of questions.
THis is also good in that it puts the investigation where it should be, the administration and the crime reporting process that sorely left the children down.
Why should we be debating the moral failings of Paterno or worse, McQueary who has to try to iterate seeing a neighbor, friend’s dad, mentor do what he did. We, and everyone in the country talking about this should be outraged that there was a complete failure in the reporting process that was already in place and initiated by the witness and his boss. THis is an adminstration failure along with everything else and had Curley and Schultz just done what they were supposed to do, which is report this to the proper authorities, then we wouldn’t be here now.
My grammer skills need improved.
by BMAN13 on Nov 9, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Agree BMan
I’m surprised how few people seem to even consider this. Joe’s failing seems to be that he trusted his superiors to do what they were legally required to do.
by PSUEnrg02 on Nov 9, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Sadly, this
It really sucks that this situation is making that seems like the wrong thing to do. It’s a terrible example to set.
it really is its like the woirst moral of the stroy ever
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
At a pre-commercial tease on ESPN, the anchor said this:
“If JoePa coaches this weekend, will it have negative repercussions……FOR YEARS TO COME??”
I literally screamed “oh fuck you” at the TV and quickly changed the channel. Yeah, THAT is the thing that’ll really screw us over!
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Nov 9, 2011 7:23 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Yes, this is true.
Hundreds of child molesters will see that by allowing Joe to coach, society has gone on record as condoning their actions. Hundreds of additional children will now be abused, due to Joe coaching a football game.
This? This is why I don’t watch ESPN.
by Tailgate Shogun on Nov 9, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Legitimate Question:
Would it actually do more good, than harm at this point to make Paterno step down?
Through the last five days, he has been the sole figure to even attempt to face the media. He has, willingly or not, shouldered the burden of the University’s shame. Whether he coaches on Saturday, on in 4 Saturdays, is not going to change that.
Do you think ESPN will stop running sound bytes on the scandal if he’s not on the sideline? Do you think Curley, Schultz et all will suddenly go “My Bad” and own up if you fire JoePa? All you will achieve is possibly ruin the seasons of 120 or so Student Athletes that had nothing to do with this, as well as possibly take away the only positive thing the general student body has to look forward to for the next month.
So, I will repeat, this is a legitimate question. Can someone make an argument with supporting evidence that firing Paterno right now will do more good than harm? Because, honestly, I’m not seeing a tangible benefit to it right now.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Nov 9, 2011 7:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It is 100% a PR move - there's no other reason
People want Joe’s head right now (fair or unfair) and a bunch of idiots people will see him coaching as the University supporting JS’s acts.
by ppfcpp on Nov 9, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Uh-oh
I’ve been joking all these years, but…
He holds B.A. and M.A. degrees from the University of Minnesota.
It looks like our next head coach could be Glen Mason
*
Dan Nystrom as Special Teams coach
/bad memories that pale in comparison now
I don't know what to do.
But I can’t keep doing this. So I’m gonna get banged up and try again tomorrow.
...with dignity and determination...
Its hard to continually
..have it in your face all day long. And I work in an office full of Pitt trolls who have a sickening love for all of this. And I’m running out of gas to keep trying to talk myself out of a corner all day long.
I live in Iowa.
And for the past 3 days at work, everyone is coming to me to get my perspective as the only Penn Stater in the office. I’m growing more and more tired of it. I am beginning to lose my cool with it because I just don’t want to talk about it.
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I really can't get away from it
I have a conf. call with higher ups from our companies #1 acct every Wednesday, and 2 of the 3 regional commodity managers are a Sparty grad and another that lives in Lincoln. I had barely beeped in and hadnt said a word before the assault started.
I know how you feel.
I’m almost afraid to wear my extensive wardrobe of PSU gear out in public.
_______________________
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I'm torn
I usually wear one of my jerseys to work every Friday and to a bar in Beaver County to watch the game just about every Saturday. It usually has plenty of Staters around, but I don’t know what to do this week. The snarky comments will come undoubtedly, but I feel like I’d be lesser for not being PSU proud even in the darkest of days. I don’t know.
I used to live in Beaver County.
Where do you go to watch the games?
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how is the southern contingent holding up
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
I've gotten calls from reporters,
in my “official” capacity here. I’m stonewalling until we draft a written press statement.
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Chippewa
Sal’s Ristorante. Its nothing PSU themed, but a group always shows up.
I lived in Economy Borough.
That was ages ago, though.
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At least they're asking for perspective
and not just blindly listening to the media?
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If anyone came up with this idea already, I apologize..
…for recycled ideas. But give Tony Dungy a blank check and put him in the best position within the university that they can come up with. Special advisor, head coach, whatever and wherever the BOT feels best. I couldn’t think of a better name and face to insert at the given time?
If anything
Because he’s the first guy I can think of that the media trolls have very little option but to respect. Anybody else coming from the outside in will get unfairly pummeled with this for awhile. And he’s as much of an unquestioned class act as any football guy out there.
Dungy
was the first name I thought of. And FTR I am a long time Patriots fan-grew up outside of Boston. Actually attended the second game ever played in the old Foxboro Stadium (1971). But depsite the rivalry I have nothing but total respect for Dungy.
Reputation-Vile Thing! (Othello)
Yeah
I was watching the SNF game and as soon as his face popped up it hit me. Not sure if anybody with the keys will come up with the same idea of if he’d want to, but he’s on a very short list of guys that could come in and have an immediate positive effecct.
Not sure if this has been posted but here it is...Joe has hired a PR firm.
http://www.odwyerpr.com/blog/index.php?/archives/3550-Paterno-Brings-in-Crisis-PR-Counsel.html
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
Turns out the person on the front lines of this PR firm is a friend of a friend. Obviously his solidarity with the school and their PR goals have eroded, but after hearing about what happened when the firm’s number went out, I think this probably has more to do with Scott Paterno getting tired the phone call volume than anything else.
An SI attorney adds his two cents
I really didn’t need to read this. I’m done for the day folks. Depression is setting in.
Article Says Nothing
Paterno isn’t getting charged criminally-and PSU will pay any civil claim against him. I and the other lawyers on BSD know more than this so-called expert.
Reputation-Vile Thing! (Othello)
Wow that article is actually, factually wrong
Any time a lawyer writes something like this:
it seems plausible to assume that Sandusky — still actively involved with the team, albeit in an informal capacity — continued to view himself as Paterno’s subordinate.
He is either A. an idiot or B. doesn’t actually understand the law he’s pretending to profess about.
If there were ever a negligence case where the superior faces liability because a person might view themselves as a subordinate, when they are not in any way a subordinate, de facto or de jure, I have yet to see it. Also, the judge who didn’t dismiss that claim immediately would probably be too stupid to walk, or even have involuntary reflexes.
I mean this article is really, really irresponsible. I’ve been a lawyer for 3 weeks and I know this is complete bullshit.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I skimmed it, but it seemed awful flimsy to me.
by Chris Grovich on Nov 9, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
I mean
civil liability on a person because someone else may have seen that person as a superior?
…
I can’t.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Joe had about as much room for public support as you can muster under the circumstances
when this story first broke on Saturday. He was being commended by the DA for his cooperation. At the very worst, people were asking if maybe he could have done more.
Had ANYONE gotten out in front of this story in support of Joe, things would be much different right now.
After five days of stonewalling from the University, the public has worked itself into an absolute fury. Retiring wasn’t enough. Immediate resignation wouldn’t be enough. Nothing will be enough. This is the definition of an angry mob.
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 9, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Just so disappointed.
I have really tried to stay away from the comment sections during this ordeal for fear of becoming more angry than I already am. But, I’ll get in my few comments and just divulge my shear disappointment on so many levels in this case.
I’m disappointed in Spanier. How can a man who leads such a wonderful university sit on his hands on such information? Why did it take him so long to resign? Why did he openly admit to supporting Curley, who will likely face jail time.
I’m disappointed in Mike. I don’t care what position you are in — if you see something as horrible as this, you put a god damn stop to it then and there. We are talking about an innocent child here, not a coach slipping a $100 bill to a recruit.
I’m disappointed in Joe. It’s debatable how much he actually knew, but my bet is he knew enough that not acting further is disgraceful. That said, however, I am also disappointed in how much blame seems to be falling on his shoulders. He may not have done enough, but at least he did something.
I’m disappointed in the media outlets. Justified or not, too many fingers are pointed at Joe. More emphasis needs to be given to the victims and their families. After all, this entire situation is about them. They need the support.
Disappointment. Anger. Frustration. Denial. That about sums it up my feelings.
“May no act of ours bring shame.”
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ESPN blows
I’m on my cell phone, so I didn’t see whether anyone has pointed out the obvious, but as long as they continue to employ a man who allegedly killed five hookers while playing at SMU, nobody there has the authority to tell PSU that it shouldn’t continue to employ a man who allegedly didn’t follow up on sexual abuse allegations that he reported to his boss.
by speedotito on Nov 9, 2011 8:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Thankful for support of Joe here
Obviously tremendously disappointed should the charges levied against Sandusky and the admins be proven. God help those kids.
Also very disappointed in those who rushed to such a harsh judgment of Joe without knowing more facts. Even taking a grand jury indictment as gospel (which should never be done), there is nothing to suggest Joe deserves this level of hatred. Especially from those who claim to be his biggest supporters. Maybe that changes down the road, although I doubt it.
Yes I am new. I am a fellow psu alumni and donor and have followed the conversations on here closely the last few days. I hope that doesn’t make me a “troll”.
No, you're not trolling.
By definition, a troll is someone from outside of the community.
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Something about imagining this conversation makes me happy
RealMikeRob Michael Robinson
Just spoke with MY COACH. He is a strong man and is what honor and dignity is all about. Sad time Nittany Nation. I pray for the victims
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Nov 9, 2011 8:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I dont know if you know this
but MRob doesn’t talk, he only sings in a buttery smooth R&B voice.
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
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M Rob is a great man
I’d be very proud to have him return to Penn State in some capacity when his playing career is over, but I have the feeling he’s going to be a broadcaster
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I strangely started getting text messages from some old, non-PSU, non-football friends about Joe being able to stay for a couple of games. I found myself, kind of on autopilot, responding that I’m not sure I really care if he leaves tomorrow or mid-January.
At this point I’m not sure it matters, and really this is all just a distraction from the real work, which isn’t figuring Joe’s exit script, but doing everything possible to support the victims and then, after that, putting an entire university back together.
With no disrespect to the victims
It keeps slowly setting in that its going to take so much time and effort to duct tape this program back to something we recognize, let alone back to what all us has ever known unless you’re 70 years old. I’m not sure when it will set in that we’re in the grouping of teams on the college landscape with a new coach, staff etc. trying to find our way. A part of me has died in the past few days, from a selfish football perspective, and I know that goes for alot of us.
so the baord is meeting at an undlsclosed hotel
somehting big will be announced
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
lol they did say off campus maybe the graduate
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
If the board is firing Paterno tonight
State College will burn.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
hoping they dont but might be why there in an undisclosed lcoation
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure it's leaked that they are at the Penn Stater
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
espn rinaldi would only say offcampus hotel
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ben Jones is at the Penn Stater, so I have a feeling he caught wind of it
That place is a bit removed from the main campus, so it would make sense.
by smashtheguitar on Nov 9, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
if jones is there then it is gospel
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Kid's got a nose for the story, does he not?
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
scary good
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
I missed the "If"
and went to grab my coat and keys.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
damn preopoisitions get in the way of central pa jsutice all the time
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yet another riot...
If the fan base in State College wants to honor JoePa, they should respond to any news of his ouster with class and dignity instead of engaging in yet more destruction of the town. Joe has given his entire life to the University, and if the University decides they’re going to continue without him, I think Joe would respect that decision and move on to the next chapter.
It's hard to get college kids to think rationally. Besides, they'll riot for anything
because in a college student’s mind, riots are fun
by smashtheguitar on Nov 9, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
nothing was destroyed in the “riot” last night. how else do you suppose you show their opinion?
by emg500 on Nov 9, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All I'm saying is
Things can go from “nothing being destroyed” to “a bunch of shit being destroyed” right quick. If they’re angry, then it’s probably going to happen, I’m just saying it’s not how Joe would want it.
I wouldn't be surpised if they've been drinking this time around.
Hell, today was a rough day. I know I could have used a drink after hearing some of the news.
Joe would not want the fuss
But the university should know better after the support the student body showed last night at the mere mention that he might be fired over the next few days.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
wasn't quite a riot
someone else used the term “Grazing”, which I felt was more appropriate.
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It damn better well
Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
"He is a strong man and is what honor and dignity is all about." - Michael Robinson
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Nov 9, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Overthinking this,
but if they’re smart (and they’re probably not) they would make sure riot police are in place before basically any announcement – particularly a Paterno firing. Can that be done in under an hour?
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
PSU pretty much has riot police on speed dial anymore
I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a mini riot squad patrolling all week just in case.
i am sure if they were gonna do it they would have had a good idea of the vote ahead of time
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. A better solution would be to announce such a decision at 9 a.m. tomorrow
by smashtheguitar on Nov 9, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Except
The media pressure is immense — people want heads to roll. They’re getting criticism for not moving fast enough, so I’m sure they feel like the tradeoff of a few broken lightposts or turned over cars would be worth saving further damage to the school’s reputation.
That would be a very shortsigted decision.
Riots make things look worse.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
And I was thinking
Firing Paterno at this point, I think, would absolutely kill donations from alumni.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
I wish I was making enough money
That I could threaten to take it away if they handle this poorly.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
just lie
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No matter what,
people will be pissed and pull donations. I think the only factor there would maybe be the continued support of their top donor – Joe and Sue.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Correct.
Maybe this means there’s no firing. Or maybe it just means that they have less foresight than an internet blog commenter who’s 3/4 deep in a bottle of zinfandel.
by Illegal Formation on Nov 9, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
They've done nothing smart yet.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
can mussy say ur looking live at a bunch of dbags before they start
There are times when a corps commander's life does not count.
by psu in the w-b on Nov 9, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You could do far worse than a Minnesota guy.
We’re polite, but we don’t tolerate bullshit. Hopefully he’s the type that has that Germanic/Nordic bizzare love of cleaning up messes.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Nov 9, 2011 9:24 PM EST reply actions
We "redd" them up in these parts.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Well Graham,
you and Curly do put on “The Greatest Show in College Football”.
by penntatefan on Nov 9, 2011 9:25 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
been
following Ben on twitter. He is doing a great job, and so has everyone at BSD as well as the posters. Thankful for BSD and the outlet to connect with others and vent frustrations. So is there a presser for 10 pm ?
If anyone needs a stream to watch
6ABC should be, according to @Jim_Gardner on twitter. I’d guess here:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/live
But nothing’s up yet (since it doesn’t start until 10)
Author on Anfield Asylum - YNWA
Direct link to the 6ABC stream
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/livenow?id=8425797
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I don't know if anyone got the chance to read Joe Posnaski's short blurb
But it’s worth a look. I’d like to think BSD didn’t get caught up in the “reactionary” part of the coverage he’s talking about, but I’m not so sure that’s true.
http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/11/curiously-short-posts.html
There's extra security around Joe's house atm, if you're wondering
Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
"He is a strong man and is what honor and dignity is all about." - Michael Robinson
You know, short of the BoT blaming it on him.
I’d kind of imagine that’s going to be the most well protected house in State College tonight no matter what happens, even without the police around.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Joe has his own atm machine?
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
El oh el, fair enough
Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
"He is a strong man and is what honor and dignity is all about." - Michael Robinson
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Nov 9, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Don't shoot the messenger
Jim_Gardner Jim Gardner
#Paterno is out. #PSUcharges
49 seconds ago
Jim_Gardner Jim Gardner
Assistant coach, Tom Bradley is interim coach. #PSUcharges
1 minute ago
Jim_Gardner Jim Gardner
Action News source says #JoePaterno will not coach another game. #Spanier has resigned. #PSUcharges
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Well, fuck, but it's become expected
Oh well, Bradley is a really good coach. Best of luck to him
Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
"He is a strong man and is what honor and dignity is all about." - Michael Robinson
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Nov 9, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Early Twitter reports
Are that Joe is finished, and Bradley is interim. Spanier gone too.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
State College is not going to be a pretty place tonight.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
You would think that they would at least consider the timing here.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Well they've managed to fuck this up in every other way imaginable.
Why not this too?
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I hope State College riots, and riots like hell tonight.
Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
"He is a strong man and is what honor and dignity is all about." - Michael Robinson
Serious question
Can I request a new diploma from PSU? I don’t want Spanier’s signature on mine.
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Oh God. It’s all over. I’m ruined. RUINED. I’ve got nothing left, except for my millions of dollars, a gun, and this plane I’ve hijacked
Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
"He is a strong man and is what honor and dignity is all about." - Michael Robinson
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Nov 9, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
If this is so, I hope the players put strips of black electrical tape on those helmets Saturday.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
If he is gone it's obviously not what is wanted
but hopefully he can tell all sooner now rather than later.
by clay-born to party on Nov 9, 2011 10:02 PM EST reply actions
It's not on for anyone else is it?
Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
"He is a strong man and is what honor and dignity is all about." - Michael Robinson
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Nov 9, 2011 10:02 PM EST reply actions
NBC10 also saying JoePa out, Bradley interim coach
From @colinmacaulay
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Oh god it's the goon again
The dumbshit who said Paterno was more responsible than JS himself is on ESPN news
I think there's now an open thread.
We should all move there.
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I'm literally shaking right now and my heart is racing
I can’t take this.
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Nov 9, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions
Sad PSUEnrg02
IS SAD.
But if they can Joe without even giving him the opportunity to divulge his side of this story, then
FURIOUS PSUENRG02 WILL BE FUCKING FURIOUS!!!
Fucking Bastards
Sorry for the language, but that’s how I feels.
"I admit we don't have all the facts."
But, we’ll make a decision anyway.
Of course I'm home. I'm always home. I'm uncool.
Somebody is SKEWERING this guy.
And whoever he is, I’m a huge fan.
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