Open Thread #2: Please Don't Burn The Place Down.
by Chris Grovich on Nov 9, 2011 11:54 PM EST
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Goes for students and commenters. Maybe we should all sleep on this, hmm?
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Guys, do me a favor: calm the fuck down
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 9, 2011 11:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I CANT AND WONT
Ok, I’ve calmed down a bit from before. I can’t believe how mad with rage I actually was. Physically angry. If someone would have looked at me wrong I would have fought them, and yes I’m embarrassed about that now, but it doesn’t change how I felt/feel
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 9, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'M CALM. YOU CALM? I'M CALM.
EVERYONE CALM DOWN.
Calmer than you are, Dude.
/Lebowski’d
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
#OccupyESPN
CSN showed footage of Joe and Sue outside their house...
No real news, but Joe seemed upset (or at least incredulous) that they fired him with a phone call.
Apparently he told the folks outside to to go study and to pray for the victims
according to folks at the scene
by smashtheguitar on Nov 10, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I hope the protests stay peaceful
Seriously the students and a lot of the Penn State fans feel Joe is being made a scapegoat for a failure much larger than what he did or did not do. I just hope it stays somewhat peaceful.
Beware of the toothpick, it knows what you're thinking.
They will
this is how student ‘riots’ are and have been since 2001.
Everyone gathers in Beaver canyon. The riot cops line the streets. Eventually people disperse
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe we should all sleep on this, hmm?
Maybe we shouldn’t. This university is a goddamn disgrace. Period. The entire week has been one fuck up after another. I’m done.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes . . . you'll never go platinum.
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Nov 10, 2011 12:02 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
So very much with you.
The way the university handled this is absolutely disgraceful.
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'm totally fucking numb right now
I am so shocked and upset by all of this that my emotions aren’t working properly
Defense wins championships
Joe's statement is what I hoped he would say
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
And "go study"
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln
by SarcasmJam on Nov 10, 2011 12:06 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
where can i read
the statement online? i missed the start of it on sportscenter
PSU’s philosophy students just got a lesson that justice truly doesn’t exist.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:04 AM EST reply actions
And the communications/media students
Are getting a lesson in how to not handle an escalating crisis.
unless you want a lot of pagehits
and the ability to say you took down a giant.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
I'm scared to go to work tomorrow
because I know this asshole ND fan is gonna make a snide remark to me about all this and laugh. To which then I know i’m gonna knock him the fuck out and lose my job.
I’ll keep you all updated.
by pf289 on Nov 10, 2011 12:04 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I live in Houston and work with UT, Baylor, Texas Tech, Michigan, and Texas A&M folks
ALL of them have been very supportive. Of course everyone’s opinion with regards to Paterno’s moral culpability differs but they all understand how difficult this is for me.
Just remind him that he's a Notre Dame fan
That’s as good of comeback as any
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
insert inappropriate comment about Catholic church here...
and then something about Notre Dame’s Bowl victories
16365 native
I'd keep the comment about the Catholic church inside
But the bowl victories are fair game
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
ask him why Brian Kelly still has a job.
PSU handled this better than ND handled Declan Sullivan’s death.
by Cock D on Nov 10, 2011 12:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
No thats not cool either
We’re above using tagedies as cheap comebacks. thats not the psu way
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently it's the PSU way to clean house when there is a tragedy.
ND didn’t show that level of accountability.
Shipping work tomorrow.
by dontcallmescooter on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I understand what the board did
from a corporate stuffed-shirt point of view, but it’s unfair to Paterno. I must have missed that part of the grand jury report where Paterno is indicted. All of the criticism of him is made in hindsight, and Paterno was failed by numerous people around him.
Joe Paterno Apologist
by Joe 96alum on Nov 10, 2011 12:05 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Riots getting violent according to ESPN
Of course some of that is based on the reported being upset that the chats are “Fuck ESPN”
First was WTAJ
haven’t heard about the second
Well forgive me
if I find ESPNs reporting to be questionable
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"several students tried to flip over a media van"
well at least they’re directing their anger towards the proper people
Defense wins championships
by psu_all_day on Nov 10, 2011 12:05 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
It's 2011
Can’t ESPN have a camera on the scene instead of just someone on the phone?
by mundyscorner99 on Nov 10, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions
The one man in this whole thing that is least culpable...
…and did the most to prevent it.
…and is the only person who has admitted he could have done more.
…is now the only person that has been fired for it.
The only thing Paterno is guilty of is trusting that people would do their job.
by Brian Verdine on Nov 10, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
OMG
I dont wanna see this at Joe’s house. This is awful.
He just said that the students should get a good night sleep, and pray for the kids.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Just Joe telling them thank you for the support but to please leave and get some sleep and study lol sadly. And lastly to pray for the victims and “We are Penn State”.
by pf289 on Nov 10, 2011 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
eh im watching it on live tv
no link for that
Joe just shit on the BOT
“A phone call put me out of it.”
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
When Corbett is up for re-election
I bet Joe doesn’t vote Republican
by psueagle on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
a phone call put me out of it
IN JOE’S WORDS…..THAT IS PATHETIC THEY TREATED HIM LIKE THAT
not only a phone call that put him out of it,
but they made HIM call THEM. Pricks.
I’ll say it again: pricks.
I’ll say it more emphatically: fucking douchebag asshole piece of shit pricks.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
TweedleDUMBASS
Defense wins championships
by psu_all_day on Nov 10, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Rece it's called SHOCK
People can get numb and appear emotionless
count me
as one of those people
Defense wins championships
by psu_all_day on Nov 10, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
did you hear this
a messenger delievered an envelope and it gave him a number to call which told him he was relieved of his duties….
They didn't know how to unfriend on Facebook either
Beware of the toothpick, it knows what you're thinking.
by Pilsner73 on Nov 10, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
What about Skype?
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
So if Joe doesn't call
Can he claim he was never informed and keep his job?
Beware of the toothpick, it knows what you're thinking.
Every time I see the look on Sue's face, I cringe
"Fight 'em till hell freezes over then fight 'em on the ice." -- Dutch Meyer
by PSUTripleOption on Nov 10, 2011 12:11 AM EST reply actions
Joe seems to be handling it ok - like he accepted it
Sue just seems crushed.
Let's make as many assumptions about the BOT as we can...
…then maybe THEY will all be relieved
by Cadderly18 on Nov 10, 2011 12:11 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
And please channel a small fraction of the outrage here, because this is sickening.
There are very real victims involved here. Very real. Please keep that in mind.
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/sister_of_sandusky_victim_talk.html
In a parallel universe, going to class might be a nice distraction, to get her mind off the chaos surrounding the arrest of the man accused of molesting her brother.
But not as a junior at Penn State, where students are making jokes about being "Sanduskied."
"I can’t escape it," said the junior, whose brother was allegedly molested in a shower by former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky when he was 11.
"I’ve been going to minimal classes, because every class I go to I get sick to my stomach. People are making jokes about it. I understand they don’t know I’m involved and it was my brother, but it’s still really hard to swallow that."
…
For this student and her family, the pain has lasted years. But there was no preparing for how Sandusky’s much-awaited arrest would explode into a scandal that will end the career of legendary coach Joe Paterno and her university’s president.
And in all of that, a message is lost.
"I’ve just been really upset about it all because a lot of people aren’t focusing on the victims in this," she said. "And instead they’re focusing on other things, like football. As much as you shouldn’t blame the football players … they should be focusing on their respect for the families and what they’ve been through."
by Chris Grovich on Nov 10, 2011 12:12 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
this is what the focus should be on
not on Joe
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And yet, PSU made sure tonight that the focus is as far away from them as possible.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
I just posted this in a now dead thread, but I think its at least worth a thought:
Honestly, I thought they should have fired Spanier, Curly, and Shultz. Laid the entire mess on them, especially since curly and shultz are indicted.
Then, offered JoePa an extension, which he would have turned down. But say something along the lines of ‘the only person in this mess to act appropriately and within his means and willingly express remorse for things out of his control. He still upholds everything he has lived for and stood by. He is one of the few adults in the room. Right now PSU needs him’
Whether you believe it or not, thats the right PR spin for the university. They lay blame on those that are most responsible and clean up JoePas reputation-which is really the school’s reputation. They force the story back to what it is and was, and remove JoePa from the spotlight.
Sure, the administration would get hammered, but the public face remains in tact.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
agree
The focus should be on the victims first, but the media has made this about Paterno.
by psualum9931 on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
yup
there is no white knight coming to fix this or spin this
a monster lived and worked among us. he fooled us. we failed.
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
To the defense of many, many people
These creeps typically go unnoticed. The sad part is that right now somewhere out there, maybe in your town, this shit is going down. That you and many other people never knew the true nature of Sandusky isn’t an indictment of you as a moral person, rather it proves that you are human.
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he is clearly a master manipulator
and that stretches from young boys to brilliant men
let's go state
Ironically I had to go through training for that sort of thing when I was hired as head coach this past spring
My district is genuinely concerned about predators. The fact is these guys don’t drive around in vans and give candy. They aren’t in trench coats with bottles of lube sticking out the pockets. They look like you and me and everyone else here.
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
exactly
I’ve also been trained as a requirement to volunteer in a shelter for survivors of abuse. My wife is an advocate for survivors of abuse and the abusers are typically very charming and well respected.
by psualum9931 on Nov 10, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
We communicate at distance through the media, Chris.
There is no “broken families thread #2” on BSD right now. There is a “press conference thread #2”. You’re having a bad night.
by gumbercules on Nov 10, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't she also say
She didn’t blame Paterno in that story. Why leave that part out?
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln
by SarcasmJam on Nov 10, 2011 12:30 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
In my sick mind I hope
Tom Bradley’s first press conference is his last.
I hope he comes on and says fuck the BoT, and I love Joe and if Joe goes so do I.
by pf289 on Nov 10, 2011 12:13 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
he won't because he is loyal to his players
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I still think the players might
Bradley will stick around as long as the players do
Part of me
hopes the players stage a walkout over this.
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Nov 10, 2011 4:33 AM EST up reply actions
My god...
This man is absolute class. I’m not a Penn State fan…but I am a college football fan…and Joe Paterno is everything college football should be. I’m shedding tears down here in Alabama. I have absolutely nothing to do with Penn State, and this whole thing is causing me, a grown man, to cry openly. I cannot even fathom what you all must be feeling.
And even through it all, JoePa comes out of his home and tells the students he loves them and loves Penn State.
I can only hope to be that strong one day.
"You have to create six seconds of hell, every time the ball is snapped..."
-Nick Saban
by KongAtTheGates on Nov 10, 2011 12:13 AM EST reply actions 14 recs
Everything college football should be?
So college football should be covering up the rape of children?
We don't know that he did...
Imagine yourself at work. You see a fellow employee doing something unethical. You report it to your boss.
Now…what else do you hear about it? Nothing, because your boss is under zero obligation to tell you anything about it.
Is it so hard to imagine that when JoePa inquired about the status of the investigation, his boss told him “it’s being handled” and JoePa believed him?
Look, I’m not making excuses for him. He should have followed up. How many situations in your life do you look back on and think “wow, I should have handled that differently.” ? If you’re like roughly 100% of the rest of the world, the answer is “a whole fugging lot”.
If it turns out that coach Paterno was actively involved in a cover up, I’ll feel differently. However, based on his impeccable track record, I can only assume, for now, that Paterno alerted his superior and assumed that his superior alerted the authorities.
Absolutely everyone who knows the man speaks to his character. Even down here in Alabama we revere the man for his character. I believe that his life has earned him the benefit of the doubt.
"You have to create six seconds of hell, every time the ball is snapped..."
-Nick Saban
by KongAtTheGates on Nov 10, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Dont bother
This guy isn’t here for rational discussion. He’s here to troll. Don’t feed him
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He doesnt sound like a troll to me
to be fair
Hes back from earlier today
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
As a follow-up
We still don’t know if he DID follow up (you can even imagine he mentioned it more than once to Curley) and was told “we looked into it and nothing came of it” OR “it is being handled appropriately”. Without getting more of the story (short of grilling the witness or the accused — both of which are, supposedly, close to you and friends of yours) and not being the witness yourself, what else could/would one do? IF JoePa truly was only told “I saw them horsing around in the shower”, doesn’t it at least make sense JoePa wasn’t quite as culpable as some are making him out to be? The point of this strawman is to illustrate we don’t really know all the facts. If it does turn out that JoePa was part of the cover-up or didn’t follow up because he was afraid it would bring the program down, then I’ll be just as pissed as everyone. For now, I’m severely disappointed but willing to withhold final judgement until we hear more from Joe and the rest of the players.
by SpacePirate on Nov 10, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
According to Scott Paterno, the laywer
He stated that Joe was told by Curley that Schultz was handling the investigation.
by psualum9931 on Nov 10, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not that I doubt you at all....
but for future defense purposes….can you put up a link?
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
If you don't know what you are talking about
Then don’t post.
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln
by SarcasmJam on Nov 10, 2011 12:32 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Meant to post this over here.
One last thing, then I’m going to bed.
Schultz and Spanier both sat on the Board too. Don’t be shocked if the coverup went throughout the Board too. Housecleaning is going to take a long, long time.
And seriously, fire Curley and Schultz NOW, you dolts.
How Curley and Schulz are unscathed is beyond my ability to comprehend
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
I dont think they can fire schultz.
Schultz is retired,so I’m not sure there’s any recourse. But yeah, the fact that Curley is only on leave is sickening.
They could re-hire him and then fire him
by cjapsu on Nov 10, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'd like to see that
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
he is on leave so they can control him
Maybe he knows shit that will do as Grovich suggests, and sully the board.
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
More likely Schultz would than Curley
Schultz was actually on the board
Honestly, you have to fire McQueary too. He went up the chain which is what JoePa is being ripped apart for. I empathize with his situation, but I can’t see it any other way.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
No you dont..
They fired Joe because of who he is.,. not because of what He did.
by archerbullseye on Nov 10, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
My friend and I(both non PSU'ers were talking about this)
He put it like this “he did the appropriate action, not the jesus-esque action which is why he got fired”.. I don’t think I could have said it better myself
by clay-born to party on Nov 10, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
No, no, no
Crucifying another person who – by all reports – did the right thing, is not helpful. Firing Mcqueary is not the answer.
He did the same thing Joe did. I want to stress that I empathize with his situation.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
right
but it wasn’t right to fire JoePa for it, so its not right to fire McQueary for it
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
But since they fired one, they have to fire the other, right? That’s where I’m at. I can understand why people wanted Joe gone (though I disagree), but that last fact is upsetting.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Ever heard the expression "2 wrongs don't make a right"
That applies here. Wrongfully firing Red doesn’t fix wrongfully firing Joe.
I feel we’re arguing about the same thing. I feel like Joe and Red are inextricably linked with this forever. I’m not saying it’s right, just how it is.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
But 3 lefts make a right.
That doesn’t apply to anything. Lord, I pray that you help my Nittany Lion family.
Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z
by OMEGAMAN on Nov 10, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because that is a more apparent lawsuit for wrongful termination
He reported a crime, a GJ already believes him to be a credible witness. Do you think PSU wants to risk another jury finding him more credible than Schultz and Culey?
by psualum9931 on Nov 10, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
I hope the team comes out with 10 players for it's first play Saturday
In the missing man formation.
by MSUDersh on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Please just leave before you say something stupid
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
wayyy too late
Formerly known as kmart93
Black Shoe Diaries
by Kyle_Martin on Nov 10, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is crap
It may play out that Paterno had a bigger role than it first appeared in this whole mess. But no one should be jumping to that conclusion until we find out more.
Instead, the board dumped the coach unceremoniously. Paterno deserved better, at least due process. Shit, Sandusky was investigated for several year before charged. It took 4, 5 days for Paterno to be publicly convicted.
by gcdyersb on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Fire at Old Main rumored
According to Ben Jones twitter feed
Joseph Vincent Paterno may not be the BOT's head coach, but he is still MY Head Coach!
by wek5000lion09 on Nov 10, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
He is downtown from his pics though, so don't know how credible
Joseph Vincent Paterno may not be the BOT's head coach, but he is still MY Head Coach!
by wek5000lion09 on Nov 10, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
That's what worries me
Joseph Vincent Paterno may not be the BOT's head coach, but he is still MY Head Coach!
by wek5000lion09 on Nov 10, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
ESPN keeps showing the same clip of all the students lol
by archerbullseye on Nov 10, 2011 12:15 AM EST reply actions
yeah, they left Old Main a while ago
unless they’re back. But the guy ON THE PHONE for ESPN is saying he’s on College Ave while they show Old Main (up close)
16365 native
One more thing...
Can the next head coach at Penn State, say he will not accept unless JoePA says he can take over the team?
Please please PLEASE
Stop destroying property people… don’t do this now…
Sorry if this is rambling
I’m a pragmatist by nature; I can see both sides to the argument; why he should go, and why he shouldn’t. I’ve gone back and forth as the day has gone on, and I still don’t have an answer.
But this whole business tonight leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. Maybe that’s all the answer I need.
At any rate, what’s done is done. It was Penn State before JoePa, it’ll still be Penn State tomorrow now that it’s gone. We have to move on; we have no other choice.
But now, I’m going to read, go to bed, and wake up in the morning and hope I can get some work done. It won’t be easy.
Good night, all. Be safe if you’re in SC. Quit fucking rioting. We are Penn State, and we should be above that.
Goodbye coach…wish it wouldn’t have ended like this.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
by DrewRusse on Nov 10, 2011 12:18 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
on ESPN
“did the board have any idea the students would react this way”
How the fuck could they not?
The students react this way to a minor regional arts and crafts festival.
by elefantstn on Nov 10, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Now moving on to students drinking
Fucking seriously ESPN? stooping lower and lower.
Actually, it's a good question
Because during the BoT press conference, Shurma dodged the shit out of that question.
The reporter's response was that this was unexpected
That was the funny thing to me. Anyone who has ever been there knows this is common.
He is still live... in 45mins.. or longer....
by archerbullseye on Nov 10, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
All I know
is that – eventually – ONE of two groups of people is going to look REALLY stupid. it will either be those who support Joe Paterno still and all he stood for…or it will be the media, who put Joe on a crucifix and then lit him on fire. God I hope it’s the media.
Defense wins championships
Agreed
I know where I stood and still stand. I hope Joe’s last stand is proving it right.
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln
by SarcasmJam on Nov 10, 2011 12:37 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
If only
no one will hold the media accountable
I wish someone would
Formerly known as kmart93
Black Shoe Diaries
by Kyle_Martin on Nov 10, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
there are more than 2 camps
I’m on the side of Joe Paterno and due process. If it is found that he did know more and where any rational person would have done more, then I will be with the rest crucifying him. As far as I know right now he was told there was inappropriate horsing around, reported it, followed up and was told that there was an investigation that turned up nothing, and went on his way. That is what pisses me off by far the most (outside of the disgusting actions that started this whole thing): just fired because of media pressure.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Sounds like camp 1
Or at least the camp 1 I think I’m in.
With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln
by SarcasmJam on Nov 10, 2011 12:49 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
sounds like camp 1, but it is different
because I don’t feel I can ever look stupid after this, since all I wanted was for the university to handle the situation properly. They didn’t, and nothing they can do can mend that.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Well
Then I’m in that camp, since what I’ve been feeling. Unfortunately, if you try to explain that you’ll have to deal with shit like “You have no morals. You must love child abuse”.
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by SarcasmJam on Nov 10, 2011 5:52 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
How stupid is the BOT to do this at 10 at night?
Do it tomorrow morning at least.
by Slawsc on Nov 10, 2011 12:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Garbage. Pure garbage. Stuart hopes his coverage of this gets him a new position w al gore's tv network
by Slawsc on Nov 10, 2011 12:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is so far beyond Stuart Scott's wheelhouse it's not even funny
He’s trying REALLY hard to be a real reporter and failing miserably.
by cjapsu on Nov 10, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
He looks like he's wasted.
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by SarcasmJam on Nov 10, 2011 12:37 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hey ESPN, maybe interview a student or something
Because your reporter’s narration is lame
16365 native
"Destroyed" a news van
When did the students get RPGs?
And since when does PSU-UP have a “couple hundred thousand” students?
44K turned into "couple hundred thousand"
oh my.. just like rabbits…
by archerbullseye on Nov 10, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
MW3 Dropped Tuesday
We need to hold the game developers responsible
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
OMG WORSE THAN WVU!!!!
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Arab spring finally arrives in Centre County
The Humanity!
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by SNOI7 on Nov 10, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
"The students seem to be chanting some sort of devil enchantments
We are… and, Stuart, I can’t make out the rest. It sounds bad though."
Just got a psutext (even though I graduated in 09)
“Police issue official dispersal order for Old Main, downtown State College. Everyone must vacate both areas immediately.”
I thought a riot, meant injuries, fires, a lot of violence....
but so far it seems they are pretty much just peaceably assembling, which is guareenteed by the constituition
Blackledge interview no longer "coming up next"
Well, looks like I’m done for the night. Painkillers finally kicking in.
yeah my drugs are kickin too an about to past out
note drugs as in extra strength tylenol haha
Not hardcore
Two hydrocodone pills. Hardly anything good.
i dont have those on hand
but i do have lots of adult beverages
No follow-up
Finally a reporter makes some sense and says Paterno camp says he had no idea of extent and MM’s testimony confirmed and that is why he wasn’t charged. Maybe a little follow-up? Just a little?
by Btd121 on Nov 10, 2011 12:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Oh, so now things are out of control again.
That was fast.
"Ed, can we get a camera on that?"
“Uh, we would but the only news camera we have ran out of batteries two hours ago – run the endless loop from CNN, the fools that watch our network will never know”.
Yo fumo español
I hope that it didnt take you until tonight to realize that
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just felt like re-iterating it, honestly.
Plus, my laptop is struggling to keep up with the comments haha.
You got that right.
Here’s a good idea for a jounralist – take passes from the JUGS machine!
I’m pretty sure it was the very first ball, too.
He's making my first blog look bad
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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 10, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
"I got hit by a rock."
Buuuuut no one else did.
What a surprise.
by cjapsu on Nov 10, 2011 12:30 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
"It's just a bullet you pussy"
Arnold’s best line ever.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
I got hit in the leg, I wasn't even sure what it was, but it was a rock
Great reporting
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
One time
A BEE STUNG ME. At least I think it was a bee. It could have been nothing
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
HA!
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Nov 10, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
"Mike McCreery Still has his job..."
And you were doing so good, kid.
by tonycpsu on Nov 10, 2011 12:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
hey, he got more facts right thant he collective media
Today is the day I died inside 11/9/11
by letsgopsu on Nov 10, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Trustees said no change in his status
He’s really the wild card in all of this, and has gotten off with surprisingly little scrutiny. I’d be surprised to see him on the sideline.
Didn't stop em from firing Paterno.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
maybe Joe really didn't know much
Maybe Big Red is the one who is holding all the damning evidence against the administration.
maybe he goes and all the dominoes fall
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
that's what i think
We have a GJ that has detemined him to be a credible witness that reported a crime to his superiors who did nothing about it and committed perjury. If they fire McQueary, he can sue for wrongful termination, and I would think the university would not risk another jury deciding who is more credible
by psualum9931 on Nov 10, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
They are not rioting
because the BoT fired Joe Paterno, the head football coach, they are rioting because the BoT fired Joe Paterno, the biggest supporter and father of this great institution.
by pf289 on Nov 10, 2011 12:35 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
The facts are what ESPN knows! Everything else is opinion!
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, give him a break
He probably doesn’t know the facts.
The ESPN guy, that is.
Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
"I would say he had some of the facts right"
Oh rlly ESPN? Some? which facts were wrong exactly?
I saw that too
Screw you, ESPN, he had more facts right than your network’s had this entire scandal
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Nov 10, 2011 4:42 AM EST up reply actions
the media can rot in hell along with Jerry Sandusky for all I care
they are REVELING in this. it has been said that this cover up was done in order to protect image and to prevent the school from losing money.
meanwhile, the media is profiting off of biased reporting, because stories about the fall of a legend will sell more than a story about the ACTUAL FUCKING VICTIMS
Defense wins championships
by psu_all_day on Nov 10, 2011 12:36 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The student actually covered all of the points before ESPN did.
And he had all of 20 seconds to do it.
Good job PSU educators. We see who the real idiots are here.
by boilerjake on Nov 10, 2011 12:37 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
and he did from an extremely emotional place
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
don't worry
they immediately said that “80-90% of the rest of the ‘rioters’ have no idea what to say and just chant” or whatever that guy said afterward
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
OMG Tom Farrey on ESPN
He got hit by a rock. He whined on and on. Turns out it was a small rock and hit his pants leg. What a wuss.
He doesn't even know if it was a rock.
He THINKS it was a rock.
he actually said he didn't know what it was
But then reported as fact that it was indeed a rock
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
at least his journalism is consistent
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Tom Farrey was hit in the leg with a rock
ESPN has the grittiest and hardest working team in the business. Their coverage of this entire thing is actually laughable.
MEDIC!!!
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by TheMightyErik on Nov 10, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
cowards...I.E. the board of trustees
Defense wins championships
by psu_all_day on Nov 10, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
WHy the fuck can ESPN not grasp the situation?
They seem dumbfounded that anyone would ever support Joe, after all he has done for this school.
I knew it was coming
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Just wish it wasn't from a half ass journalist who thinks he is hip
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Nothing, they are just criticizing the fact it called Paterno a humanitarian
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
no Stuart Scott had to bring up the words on the wall behind the statue
and then make condescending remarks about the Humanitarian part
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently donating millions of dollars doesn't make you a humanitarian
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
nor does dedicating your life to the university apparently.
A plateau is a high form of flattery.
by Assorted Fruit on Nov 10, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
stealth riots
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by TheMightyErik on Nov 10, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
He just got bumped completely away.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
probably because of what he's going to say
I hope he cuts down the media for what they’ve done
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by psu_all_day on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
He was going to make a rational point of view
ESPN felt it wasn;t good for ratings.
by ppfcpp on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And he killed it.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Thought he did ok
Better than anyone else on this horrible network. He at least had his facts straight.
by Btd121 on Nov 10, 2011 12:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He did ok until he suggested the students don't understand what's going on
The media apparently thinks college students have the metal capacity of a 9 year old.
Well duh
They think everyone has the same level intellegence as them
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, it's pathetic
I’m 24. Not that far removed from being a college student. The fact that national media outlets assume college students are oblivious to everything going on is just sad.
Scott actually asks if Paterno's firing is just a PR move.
I guess blind (or lazy eyed) squirrel and all
Let me say it since no has said it tonight:
FUCK YOU JERRY SANDUSKY!!!
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
No, that has been said.
I can’t express in words the felonies I would commit in the presence of that man.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, I simply can't keep up with everyone
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 10, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
No I know,
I just got into the thread. I apparently missed alot.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
It shouldn’t have to be said. In fact, it should have been said so much by now that it seems tacky to keep saying it. But it hasn’t.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
I hope Sandusky "opts out"
That man has almost single-handedly brought down 156 years of institutional excellence.
Question
If there is an “opt out” would the students react similar to what they did with Bin Laden?
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
I hope so.
But then, the students will be lambasted for cheering the loss of human life or some shit.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
I hope he doesn't
I don’t want to see the coward take the cowards way out. I want the entire story out. And I want Curly and Shultz to fry
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
That's why you want him to opt out?
I hope he opts out so that the victims can be spared a trial.
Had to turn ESPN off
Can’t take that no tunnel, no upstairs, crap
I'm going to bed before I say or do something I will really regret
Goodnight all and hopefully someday we can hold our heads up high and be proud of this school once again.
I can't even type a "Stay Calm" comment.
Fucking rage.
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Welcome to the 98%.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Nov 10, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Let's keep this internal.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
That was an incredibly offensive tweet on his part
Sorry.
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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 10, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Where he said "98% RAGE..."
Cause I am in that 98%
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
What upset me was the tone, that suggest the rage was insane
Even if you think firing Paterno was the correct move, I fail to see how anyone would agree with the manner in HOW it was done.
by ppfcpp on Nov 10, 2011 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
But we're promoting debate on those exact issues.
As long as we’re not mud-slinging each other, the debates should be about how/who/what/when etc.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
I'm ok with that, but I think putting his thoughts of us on Twitter was very unnesecary
by ppfcpp on Nov 10, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
agreed
especially in the immediate wake of the tragedy. Yes, tragedy.
And especially his readership. I was pretty offended, and I hope we, as a community, get an apology.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
But we're all doing that.
Many of us on this blog, editors and commenters alike, are on Twitter. Honestly, I can’t blame him for saying that BSD was 98% RAGE, beacuse I was actually more than 98% RAGE. I was 100% RAGE.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
and then i go back to this
It wasn’t so much what he said, but the tone he said it. He basically implied that everyone at BSD was being irrational – but not on this board, out in theopen on twitter.
Then you'll have to show me where he said that.
Cause I’m under the impression that the underlying issue is when he said “BSD is 98% RAGE…”
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
The quote was:
“Reaction at BSD is 98% RAGE, 2% GRRR right now. Insane people. PSU harbored a pedophile for a decade.”
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Then we're talking semantics.
Cause I read it as “Insane, People.” (the people being the Twitter audience) Not “These are insane people”
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
Given his tone towards this matter in the past week.
I don’t really know if he just forgot a comma.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
agreed
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
That isn't semantics, it's changing the whole message
All week Chris has been pushing his views down our throats. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what he meant.
by ppfcpp on Nov 10, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Thank you
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by SarcasmJam on Nov 10, 2011 5:55 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Either way I found it offensive
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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm still in the rage mode
So take anything I saw with a grain of salt.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
So am I
And if you want the rest of my feelings, I sent you a FB request
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we may all get banned together, in the end...
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by TheMightyErik on Nov 10, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just talked to a friend who'se an undergrad
Said he was at the riots. Started peacfull but turned ugly quick. According to him:
-Newsvan got flipped
-police started macing students, but it didnt work
- police brought out attack dogs – this caused studetns to scatter
We still have attack dogs?
WTF? Is this the 60s?
When in doubt, punt!
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by carolinaeasy on Nov 10, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Great convo on the campus station right now
You listen live at www.thelion.fm and call in at 814.865.9577. Hope some folks will get something from it and maybe jump in.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
This needs to be shared with as many people as possible
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Nov 10, 2011 4:47 AM EST up reply actions
Jerry fucking Sandusky happened
Fuck him
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I find it hard to believe that everyone learned about all of this on Saturday.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
So does everyone else
I find it hard to believe that the BoT couldn’t have had a plan to handle this before tonight. I mean all of the terrible shit happened, has already happened. At this point, they should have been prepared.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really don't understand anything the BoT did.
They had to know this reaction was coming, especially when it is announced at 10pm.
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
I mean I have to imagine the conversation went like this
BoT 1 ‘The media is all over this shit’
- ’Well what should we do."
- ‘Curleys good. Lets fire JoePa and Spanier’
- ‘woah woah woah. Whats you leave spanier out of this’
- ‘I dunno, it might look less bad’
- ‘Ok, but lets get JoePa out of here.’
#4’Yeah. Thats the ticket. RIGHT NOW.’
- ‘At ten on a school night? Everyone’s in bed. GREAT IDEA. Lets do it now!’
- ‘Ok but can I look like an idiot talking to the media?’
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 8 recs
the school basically knew they were going to start a riot when they announced it at 10pm on a wednesday night
why not announce in the morning. its like they wanted this to happen
by mjs2103 on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Because this was for the media.
The media must see that they would fire Paterno no matter what.
And lets face it, the media is chalking the riots up to students being stupid and uninformed, so the BOT isn’t even being blamed.
by ppfcpp on Nov 10, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They threw JoePa under the bus.
Then they threw the students there with him.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
FULL DISCLOSURE
I don’t believe in god, or a higher being. I’m an athiest in all senses of the word. But I sought a higher being tonight.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thats weird
I lost my faith
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
I lost my faith in the people running this university.
by CvilleLion on Nov 10, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah
Thats a more rational approach. But I’m fresh outta that
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
funny, the closest thing I had to a "higher being" got fired tonight
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
agreed.
canned for admitting his faults. The only man to do so thus far just got thrown under the bus by a bunch of empty suits covering their ass. I lost my faith in people when I read the grand jury report, I lost my patience with the media a few minutes later, and I watched the only man I admired more than my grandfather go out in a ball of flames, while so many people gleefully celebrated it. I lost my faith period today.
by mleepsu08 on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Joe Paterno is the most fucking blameless person I've ever seen
and there is no forgiveness in this world where everyone makes more mistakes than him. Fucking disgusting.
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I told someone at work today I thought he'd end up a symbolic martyr
Sadly, it looks like I was right.
Tonight killed any of my remaining belief that a god existed
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Did stuart scott really just ask "why are they attacking the media"?
Maybe it’s because you spent the last 5 days crucifying a good man.
by ppfcpp on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Not an excuse to tip a van
Sorry. The media definitely made things worse, but tipping a van isn’t the right response.
by tonycpsu on Nov 10, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Everything was going well up until then
At least, in terms of property damage
not saying what they did what right
Just thta it doesn’t take a genius to figure out why they might be unhappy with the media right now
Hahahahahahahahahahaha ESPN can't figure out why they blame the media.
Just when I thought they couldn’t get any stupider…
by boilerjake on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
“Why are they attacking the media?”
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 AM EST reply actions
Of course it is slowing down bc you told us you would have coverage until 100 am.
Amazingly this will end in 6 minutes
by Slawsc on Nov 10, 2011 12:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I have never wished death upon a human being until this day
Jerry Sandusky….I hope you get what’s coming to you
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ESPN (mostly Stuart Scott) are hoping SO HARD a major riot breaks out right now.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:56 AM EST reply actions
John Barr just killed their dreams.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
When I got a text message from my dad
That said “I don’t know how to feel” I knew this was going to be a bad day. I don’t even know what to think…
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I am with you
I am emotionally numb right now.
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by psu_all_day on Nov 10, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Funny
I sent that exact same text message to my dad yesterday.
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
During the BOT presser
I wish someone would have asked Suma: "…so how many of the BOT’s knew of any of JS’s actions – other than the ‘98 investigation. Would have been very telling – and on public record – "we’re on to you..!"
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
Exactly
So one of two things, or maybe 3: he/TC/Span totally buried it, or they had discussed “individually” with a select few of what happed/how to handle it. You know they didn’t discuss on the record. I believe the board will be wiped clean…
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Nov 10, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
It's my understanding that the BOT can only be wiped clean during a vote
and sadly, until that vote comes up the majority of people will forget.
Can we hold an emergecy vote
Sort of like their emergency meeting. And have the same knee jerk reaction as those asshats?
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
In all seriousess, this is an interesting suggestion
I don’t know how these votes come up, but if there;s a way to make it happen i fully support it.
It would be nice for my rage to have a direction
besides my liver.
P.S.
Dear my boss, I will be in late tomorrow with flu-like symptoms
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
I was just thinking I might type up a pre-emptive email
So that when I wake up I only need to hit send.
Did Blackledge ever come on?
He’s off the “coming up” list…
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 10, 2011 12:58 AM EST reply actions
But Stuart Scott wants John Barr to stay near the van if there’s enough people around….Jesus.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Nov 10, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
So, just taking this all in.
Looking forward to a calmer day of discourse tomorrow.
by Kevin Powers on Nov 10, 2011 12:59 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
In the media or among PSU commenters?
Cause I’m not sure you’ll get either…
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Honey badgers to be released into rioters: unconfirmed reports
by blogue20 on Nov 10, 2011 12:59 AM EST reply actions 10 recs
Green you go.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Because Surma clearly wasn't going to answer that question
Shit, he didn’t answer any of them
He can't confirm
that the board knew the calendar year 2002 existed
by blogue20 on Nov 10, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The BOT was clearly in CYA mode
and anyone who prevented them from doing so was going down.
there will be negligence found somewhere here - fail to report...etc
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Feelings
I still feel pure and utter outrage about the firing of Joe, mixed with disbelief and helplessness.
As for the riot, I understand. I knew it would happen. I’ve just about unfollowed half the people on twitter, as they continually posted ignorance. They don’t understand. Joe is our grandfather, we just watched him get tarred and feather without any sort of due dilligence. This is grief we feel. The riot is just what happens when thousands of people hit stage two of grief all at once, anger. It may not be right or proper and doesn’t look great, but honestly, I don’t give a crap how it looks to other people, they haven’t tried to understand from the get go.
I know deep down if I wasn’t three hours away, I’d be there right now with them, expressing my anger in the same animalistic way they are. I can’t get mad at them for that.
by Rogue Nine on Nov 10, 2011 1:01 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
thank you all
for helping me cope the past few days. the only people worth discussing this with right now are psu’ers (and the few random level-headed ones that find their way here).
this site and you all are why i will always love penn state.
we are….
#fortheglory
let's go state
Hey Chris, and BSD
Chris — I know I don’t post pretty much at all, but I read the blog every day. Just wanted to say thanks for your coverage of this. I’ve agreed with every word.
Board — thanks for helping me sort through my thoughts.
Fuck all of this stuff. I still can’t believe it.
This guy Shurma (or whatever, I'll learn it) is in an incredibly difficult position.
People are harping on him being the USS president and that he shouldn’t give a fuck. But all of the trustees are high profile people. He is just the person in the position of answering these questions.
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I don't blame him as the guy in charge of answering questions
But I sure as fucking hell blame him for his involvement in the decisions they made.
Agree
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Nov 10, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Getting paid a lot for a no-show gig
Means that sometimes the shit hits the fan and everyone who remembers your face will spit in it if they get the chance.
by elefantstn on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No-show gig?
People need to realize that an entity like PSU doesn’t run by one or two people’s wishes. These trustees have real lives (in major positions), but also care deeply for psu.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
I'll give you half of that.
The second half I am seriously doubting after tonight.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Fair assessement.
But undoubtedly false. Major corporation CEOs, PA Supreme Court justices, etc. Why would these people just up and serve on a major univeristy’s board?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
Because it is a weekend hobby that they do for kicks?
It gives them something else to put on their resume to feel special?
I knew plenty of kids in clubs in high school and college that joined “Just because.” I don’t think that mentality necessarily goes away when you get older in everyone.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I'm sorry
But if you’re comparing kids high school extra curricular activities to the PSU Board of Trustees, that’s asinine.
I know some of these people. They aren’t just joining up on some cause. The Penn State Board of Trusteees is a BIG THING.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To you or I maybe.
If you’re worth several hundred millions of dollars, and the head of major corporations, do you necessarily share the same outlook?
Tonight did nothing to convince me they do.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Yes, you do.
Again, I know some of these types of people (and know some of them). These aren’t faceless corporate assholes. The trustees are people that we vote in (think about that), and they’re all PSU ers.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:23 AM EST up reply actions
These aren’t faceless corporate assholes
Well they sure as hell play the part well
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
That's cause you don't know them.
You know Joe. You know Graham. You even know Tim. But you don’t know all of the people really behind PSU. Or any other education institution, or corporation. Shit is very, very complicated. As a lawyer, I can tell you that there is nothing simple about running something this large.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough.
Can someone explain to them this is not how you endear yourselves to the people expecting them to make rational decisions in the face of a crisis?
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
This is more a respons
to the absolutely terrible mismanagement of this entire situation. Shit should have been ready Saturday morning.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't disagree with this statement.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
Neither did the new current president.
Doesn’t mean they don’t know how to run a corporation/major university.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
That was in reponse to this
and they’re all PSU ers.
He has no vested interest in Penn State, other than his positions of power.
Doesn't mean the last group of assholes did either
And thats a shot at Curly and Shultz and Spanier for the record. And I don’t care about semantics at this point. I’m still pretty pissed.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
Everyone has the riht to be pissed.
And no one knows what is coming.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
Not disagreeing...
The entire government has been pretty inept for a while if you ask me.
They cared more
About giving into the public’s hair-on-fire mentality today. They may love PSU as much as us, but they caved today for the sake of stopping the media firestorm.
by blogue20 on Nov 10, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They folded like a cheap deck of cards
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I had two dreams last night:
At least that I remember.
1) the partner in charge of my law firm calling me into his office and telling me I had to bill 14 hours today because I got nothing done yesterday.
2) chasing Jerry Sandusky out of his office and off campus with a broadsword. No joke. It was AWESOME.
Who knows what tonight’s dreams have in store. Night all.
by newenglandnittanylion on Nov 10, 2011 1:05 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Steve Levy and Stuart Scott...
Obvious JoePa haters. My God the comments coming out of their mouths
by rodney20 on Nov 10, 2011 1:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions
It's like ESPN had a sign up sheet to cover this.
And they rushed to get their names first on the list.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I hope so badly
That they trip up in their lives and are vilified for it. No creative comment here, just outrage that their agendas are tolerated.
Stuart Scott's always been a dimwitted, jock-sniffing flake
I hope the next thing he gets hit in the eye with is pointy.
Pointier, I guess.
Having trouble right now.
Which eye?
The one that looks at the floor or the one that looks to the right?
I guess I'm in the minority here,
but I think they did the right thing by letting Joe go tonight. But, I still love the man. I know he’s not a bad person – he (and everyone else involved) fucked up royally, though. I don’t know – I’m kind of numb, too. All I know for sure right now is that this whole thing has shaken me to the core of my being. I haven’t been the same since I read that grand jury presentment… I almost feel like I need counseling because of it – I can’t fathom how the kids involved have been physically and mentally coping with it or how they’ll ever cope with it.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
by icavalera on Nov 10, 2011 1:08 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I can possibly agree that he need to go because of the shit storm.
But that comes with some other things, such as everyone involved with everything is gone including the board. They need to start completely fresh even if that involved Joe Pa as well… However the way they did it is absolute bull shit. It shouldnt have been tonight, he shouldn’t have had to CALL THEM, they shouldn’t have called him. It should have been done in mother fucking person if at all. And it should have been done after sufficient evidence. I can’t even fathom the stupidity by the BOT.. getting rid of someone because he isn’t Jesus Christ the Lord and Savior
p.s. sorry for any bad language but its fucking bull shit
p.p.s sorry for any bad language in my p.s
by clay-born to party on Nov 10, 2011 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I didn't know the details of him having to call them to find out.
I’m actually on vacation w/the family, and we were at Disney World all day today. So I just started to get filled in when we got back earlier tonight (or last night I guess, seeing as how it’s past 1am here now). That is bullshit…
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
They sent a messenger to his house with a phone number to call. Paterno called the number. Two trustees answered and told him he was fired. Not exactly the best way to handle things.
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Ugh
The guy^ that finishes the story that you were telling
/dont worry im kidding
by clay-born to party on Nov 10, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
My bad.
You can tell a joke and I promise I won’t jump all over the punchline ;)
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
A messenger came and left a note with a number to call and then the canned him.
Also i wasn’t even trying to debate you that just felt like a good place to put it but yes, very bullshit
by clay-born to party on Nov 10, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Here, call this anymous number
You anonymous asshole. Wait what?
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
I can't believe they even admitted to doing that.
Are they TRYING to de-moralize everyone involved? " Look at us, we made a statement tonight"- that had nothing to do with helping these children. Oops.
It just makes me glad we were at Disney today.
Instead of sitting in front of the TV all day making myself mental following all today’s happenings. Although, here I am anyway making myself mental at 1am, while on vacation.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
M question
David , what do you think of the overturned WTAJ van? And will Dave Barr be replacing Craig stager as NBA courtside reporter?
by Slawsc on Nov 10, 2011 1:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Hey that's my branch campus!
Honestly, the only thing to do there is drink. Surprised this only came to light now.
What happened?
Some students didn’t put their trash in a garbage can properly.
by Slawsc on Nov 10, 2011 1:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hostile overtaking
Of Cleveland. And then dump it into the lake.
we thought about going to the streets up here in Clarion....
then we thought about driving to PSU. then we decided that were going to wear blue the rest of the week and roll our pants legs up.
i went to class today wearing a aero shirt. then i saw a kid wearing a psu jersey and a hat. my eyes wwatered and went back and changed. my one prof went to Michigan and gave me this approving nod. WE WILL overcome this.
by Milne4heisman94 on Nov 10, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
WTF???
Where’s the coverage of the HORRIBLE RIOTS in State College??? Won’t someone think of the children?!?!?
they ended at 1am
Coincidentally right when the NBA press conference started.
by ppfcpp on Nov 10, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What children?
There hasn’t been any talk about children all weekend. I thought Joe Paterno was actually the devil and that’s why we crucified him
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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 10, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know
Joe kept kids in his basement and Sue made them do their laundry. Sweatshop sort of thing. Despicable people those Paterno’s. Glad ESPN was able to slay them. For the kids’ sake.
The secret ingredient in Sue's lasagne?
the blood and tears of the kids in the basement
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When the kids got too weak to continue
Joe consumed their souls. That’s how he was able to coach for 60 years
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just leaving state college
I am extremely disappointed on everything. Stood for 2 hours at the Joe statue somberly.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
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Well I for one
Plan on wearing black nike’s, a blue sweater, white socks, bottle rim glasses, and my pants legs rolled up this weekend for the game. And I will stop by the statue and kiss it.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can report
that I did witness a feline and canine cohabiting.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Were you watching ESPN with Levy and Scott?
Oh, I’m sorry. I thought you meant a pussy and a bitch.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Heartbreak, anger, and disgust
With those feelings wrestling for control of my attitude towards my Alma mater, I’m giving this up for the night. See you all on the other side.
P.S. I love you Joe Paterno, thank you for everything.
I am a Penn State Nittany Lion, and I played for the legendary Joe Paterno, and more importantly, I am a man because of it. - Lavar Arrington
by LegalLion on Nov 10, 2011 1:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
So a group of students I know went out to the Paterno residence tonight.
Sue Paterno came out to talk and she was crying.
She stated “Thank you for all the support, we love you and always have. Go Penn State!”
Joe then came out to join and the media attempted to swarm him, instead students demanded that the media leave Joe alone.
Joe then stated “Thank you for all the suppport. Go get a good night’s sleep. Go study.”
The Paternos are still a class act, till the end.
A plateau is a high form of flattery.
by Assorted Fruit on Nov 10, 2011 1:24 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Either way, guess it's time to sleep.
Maybe I’ll wake up less depressed.
A plateau is a high form of flattery.
by Assorted Fruit on Nov 10, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
I think Blackledge...
…has had at least 20 stickies that this point. Ringing up quite a tab.
by Cadderly18 on Nov 10, 2011 1:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I love this school so much.
BSD, please keep it together. We’ll get through this.
Peace out for the night.
Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z
SHIT! I was gonna go to bed.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
I have had plenty to drink, and sill cannot sleep
This has hit me harder than I ever could have expected
This is what I'm afraid of.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
Work tomorrow will be rough
Assuming I can bring myself to crawl out of bed and deal with this.
Sorry man, didn't mean to rub it in
Rough times for all. If you’re an engineer I might be able to help… otherwise I’m sorry.
Nah
finished my masters in Security Technologies in August. No bites on jobs since
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well, i'm not entirely sure what security technologies is
But that might actually line up with my field. I think my email is public. If it is, feel free to email me and tell me a little about your major and / or send me your resume and I’ll let you know if there’s any way I can use some pull to get you an interivew.
Yeah
Even if I don’t drink myself into a stupor tonight, I don’t think I can face the world
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:44 AM EST up reply actions
I'm the only PSU alum of our department of 250
even if I show up, I doubt I’m able to get anything done with everyone asking me how I feel (see this whole week)
I work with a lot of them
Its a blessing and a curse sometimes
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
at the moment, I envy you
I wish I had people to share in my sorrow tomorrow.
BREAKING: Water is wet.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
That last interview with Joe on his front porch will be dissected for years.
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I think it’s a crying Sue trying to close the door on the students that’s going to lead off the 30 for 30 episode.
by gumbercules on Nov 10, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eh, the detractors are gonna have a field day with that.
He came out smiling, fumbled with “you know what I meant” stuff, etc.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
I don't blame him for dipping into the Old Granddad.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
He is an old Granddad.
That’s the sad part. Seeing him address the students last night out of his window, I was like holy shit, my grandparents house looks just like that. He truly does love all the players/students like kids/grandkids, you could see that.
To me, the most important part is this
Throughout the whole ordeal he has put the victims first, the university second, and the students third. Pretty much at no point did he put any focus on himself. That;s the Joe I know.
by ppfcpp on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Thats what he drinks
Every time he goes to the tavern anyways (my GF served him every time he was in there)
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
I loved that statement
From the “I love you guys, you know what I mean when I say guys, girls too” to the “Get a good night sleep and study” and finally ending with a good “We Are” chant.
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
THEY WERE ALREADY HIT WITH SMALL ROCKS
THEY MAY FLOAT, WE’RE NOT SURE YET
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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 10, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
A WITCH
BURN HER
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
A serious question
If it does come out that Joe had no reason to do anything else (i.e. he was told they investigated and found no substantial evidence) does he have any legal recourse?
Can he file for wrongful termination / libel?
Doesn't matter
And I don’t give a shit. The BoT fucked up. And it can’t be undone.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't get me wrong, I think it's clear that you and I see eye to eye
I’m just wondering about any legal recourse that could clear his name. And more to the point, lawsuits that (knowing Paterno) he could use money towards helping the victims.
In all honesty
In 40 years, Joe Pa is remembered for everything good he stood for. And this won’t be a blip on the radar. I really believe that.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In the long run you are probably right
But over the next 10 years, I’m not so sure.
Itll be rough for 5 years for sure
Get ready to deal with it. But it will go away as the story comes out.
Also, I’ watching ESPN and I don’t know which direction to look. Stuart scott confuses me
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:45 AM EST up reply actions
And I've probably just hit the drunk line
Old Grandad it is. Just like Joe Pa drinks it
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
I have the good stuff. 114
Itll put hair on your chest
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
I know it isn't really a comparison, but no one mentions Bowden's exit in controversy anymore
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
man, as far as comparisons go
You just compared a speedboat to the titanic.
I fully know that
Just saying in time, people will remember his entire career and not just the end of it.
Maybe Michael Jackson is a truer comparison.
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Well if MJ is your comparison
You might want to rethink whether or not people will remember his entire legacy.
Then again
Most people remember Woody Hayes for punching the Clemson player
by SCsprinter13 on Nov 10, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
I bet most people don't even know it was a Clemson player.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Yeah but that is just because,
Fuck Clemson!
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I think you meant
fucking Clemson. I’m fairly certain that’s their chant.
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For three months (the length of his contract)...maybe?
But that’s a road he’ll never want to travel.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
On principle
I’d love to see him sue
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I hate ESPN so much, I had turned it off this morning when I couldn't take it anymore
But it was the channel on when I turned the tv on just a few minutes ago.
They showed the press conference and then said “The first question after that was who would be the next coach? That’s perspective”
As if to say that football is the most important thing ever, that we don’t even care about the kids. That Penn Staters are scum, it was in his tone.
It was probably their dumbass reporter who asked it. The perspective of the media needs to be reviewed THEY are the ones who cared more about football than the kids when they asked that question.
I’m so disgusted on so many levels.
by Rogue Nine on Nov 10, 2011 1:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Iwatched the press conference and I'm not so sure that that was the first question asked.
It might have been the first question answered, but I don;t think it was the first thing called out.
I wish that when this all ended
People will realize what eSPiN really is.
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I was at work
I was unable to.
All I was able to see was what ESPN presented, and then their commentary at the end.
I don’t doubt you when you say it wasn’t the first asked, I doubt the way ESPN presented it after it reached their cutting room.
Rogue, I respect you a lot for your opinions over the past few days
I meant no disrespect, I was going to recap for you if you hadn;t seen it.
For the most part, 95% of the questions asked were very, very good ones. Among the ones I remember are:
- You said you’d wait for the investigation to play out for Curley / Schultz but you’re firing Paterno without an investigation?
- What harm could come from Paterno coaching one more game?
- What evidence beyond the GJ testimony did you have to make this decision?
Just to name a few.
Never felt any.
I’m discombobulated, I wasn’t sure if you thought I was talking about what I saw in the press conference directly, which I’m going to have to see if I can find without commentary, uncut and live or what I saw on ESPN just a little while ago.
Those are the questions that need to be answered that you list there, and should have been among themselves while they made that decision.
I saw a quote from the statement, it included the phrases (maybe paraphrasing here) “This decision was made with thorough deliberation” and “We don’t know all the facts”. Those two quotes/paraphrases speak volumes about how the decision was made.
You didn't sound hostile, I was just making sure
And trust me, there were many VERY good questions beyond thta that were asked.
Unfortunately, Surma sidestepped all of them.
This is a night
where I really wish I wasn’t sleeping alone
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Get drunk.
A plateau is a high form of flattery.
by Assorted Fruit on Nov 10, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
Are we getting an open thread tomorrow?
I’m not even going to bother going into work. What would be the point.
During the riot footage, I could have sworn I saw Meyer in the window of the Corner Room.
by VVeRPennState on Nov 10, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, he was standing behind the BoT guys during the press conference.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
Urban also got a cell phone with an 818 area code
and bought 17 PSU polos and a share in the PSU book store.
ugh, horrendous typo is horrendous
814 is what I meant. I don’t proofread my posts enough in open threads.
Thanks, I needed to lighten up a little
no sarcasm, I did.
I rep the 818!
Follow @TheMightyErik
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Nov 10, 2011 6:08 AM EST up reply actions
I love Psych, but missed it
I’ll have to look for the rerun. I could use a laugh.
Do they sign anyone?
I thought they just traded all of their successful players for new prospects.
Completely unnecessary, too.
I guess I could go out and hide in the bushes in EL right now and claim it is a riot here, but I’d only look like slightly less a fool
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty certain this is correct.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Nov 10, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
it may instigate a crowd
but it also disperses it very effectively, so however instigated everyone may be they still all pretty much go home and try to clean out their eyes.
Not condoning how freely the police are with the pepper spray, but shit gets the job done.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
from my experience tonight
it was a game towards the end on college by the bookstore
keep winning ugly
TOILETT PAPER IN THE TREES!
THE HUMANITY
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
night everyone
I didn’t comment much tonight, I’m not even sure what I would say I’m so numb at this moment. I just wanted to thank everyone for helping me get through this night though.
"Put it to the floor, hold on, and watch the mud fly!"
Nite all
I haven’t even worked much today. I can’t. I’m numb. Have to try tomorrow. Sigh.
Alright, going to bed
Tell Chris to reinstate everyone he banned today so that it will be like nothing happened when I wake up tomorrow morning, Pacific Time.
by Mr. Rosewater on Nov 10, 2011 2:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
State College makes Afghanistan look like Central Park
I really really feel for these ESPN reporters. Putting their lives on the line. THINK OF THEIR FAMILIES YOU HEATHENS
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Not to defend the ESPN guys, but
It can get hectic really quick inside phalanxes of rioting students, and the media guys would certainly be a target. It ain’t Beirut or Kabul, but as someone who gets to sit in front of a computer at work all day, I know their evening sucked more than my work day will tomorrow.
by tonycpsu on Nov 10, 2011 2:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh no! Look at all the kids WALKING!
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Nov 10, 2011 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
Oh please. It was a big four hour chant session with one overturned van and some unsubstantiated "rock throwing."
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Nov 10, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
Except this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C4I84Gy-cPI
Football is my favorite show.
The Haka
is pretty dang sweet and intimidating. I love it.
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Nov 10, 2011 5:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I actually laughed
The reporter was scared shitless. As if some terrorist cell was going to start a fucking jihad right there. Not like a single news van got turned over in a sea of college students. Most of whom are drunk/high
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
Be afraid of the plaid shirt and backwards cap mafia.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Nov 10, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
Right
The humor of the reporter crying about a rock hitting his leg is not lost on me. But if you’ve been in the middle of any of these things (especially the ones from the late 90s), you know it can turn bad really quick. I’m just saying I wouldn’t want to be the guy with the ESPN microphone flag.
by tonycpsu on Nov 10, 2011 2:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I do understand that
But I laugh because I was in the middle of a bunch from 05-08. It was all harmless and not near the level of this one I’m sure. But the presence of the riot police greatly helps keep shit under control
Regardless, it was clear during that segment that he was scared because he was a reporter. He was hiding in the bushes for crying out loud. I’m still laughing
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
Fuck ESPN, seriously
They called for his head on a plate. Now that they have it, their indignant that he was fired by phone. I’m glad they understand that actions have consequences. 3 year olds have a better understanding of the way the world works than a major news outlet. I hate the world we live in
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 2:07 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
I'm close to getting REALLY drunk
Setting the child channel lock on ESPN and the password and passing out, never to remember how to unlock the channel.
by Rogue Nine on Nov 10, 2011 2:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
History Channel
Has “Vietnam in HD”, it’s narrated by Michael C Hall. I’m behind on Dexter, this soothes my soul a little.
If the students think they can get Joe Pa reinstated they are most likely sorely mistaken
by clay-born to party on Nov 10, 2011 2:12 AM EST reply actions
I don't think any student actually believes it
But they aren’t going to take it sitting down I guess
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
They may be saying it
But I don’t think they truly believe it will happen.
I think at most they believe they can topple the Board. And to be fair, they had not a small part in toppling Spanier, though the idiot had a lot to do with it himself.
It’s astounding how easily I can see the stages of grief within us. Denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.
Yeah, but
Imagine if he just shows up on Saturday. How many PSU cops are going to stop him from entering the locker room or walking out on the field?
by tonycpsu on Nov 10, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha I'd love that
If he just showed up and coached like nothing happened today. Who would stop him?
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It was on a burn phone
There is no record!
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
Serious question
but do you think the 2 Board of Trustees members on the other end of the line even bothered identifying themselves? Or did they just say, “You have been relieved of your duties (or whatever it was)” followed by a CLICK. Perhaps they even used one of those voice changing devices.
Fucking cowards no matter how they did it.
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 2:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No I don't
And I’d like to fight them. And Chris Fowler
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
He doesn't need a contract.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Could you imagine Joe sitting next to his statue Saturday with a cell phone to his ear
Bradley on the other end taking orders as if nothing changed?
Maybe the funniest part of that is Joe operating a cellphone, though it isn’t too farfetched if he has mastered skype.
by Rogue Nine on Nov 10, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
someone else would be on the phone
Joe would tell them what to say
Today is the day I died inside 11/9/11
Big Red, I'd assume?
Though that could be a bit awkward…
by The JuggerNitt on Nov 10, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
Only if they could figure out how to open it.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Oh my god
Bottles and rocks. And another incident
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
The reporter in the tree made me laugh
this is not funny, these students are acting like idiots, the past 5 days have been a fucking tragedy
but the reporters face was just priceless
I need to try to sleep
Today is the day I died inside 11/9/11
by letsgopsu on Nov 10, 2011 2:14 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
A scared reporter is the least of what the media deserves
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No. Its funny
I hope someone has this and can make it a gif. If we ever have football again, I’m sure it will be useful.
The best part of all of this will be tomorrow when everyone makes fun of us because we can’t even riot correctly.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
The good news about listening to musselman
Is that I can’t understand him through all of his stuttering
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
You know, I always wanted someone to make a movie
about Joe’s life. Now I realize with all of this, it would probably turn into a four hour Lifetime movie of the week. damnit.
Good for him
The moment people stop fighting for what’s right is the moment we’re all screwed.
…we’re probably all screwed anyways.
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Black Shoe Diaries
He is exactly the right man
He’s going to tell the story from many angle and with humanity. He will not fail to criticize or point out the negative parts. But any fair depiction is obviously welcome.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Well I'm glad I'm in the target demographic for these commercials
Damn dirty catheters causing UTIs
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
Also
I’m contuing to get angry. They allowed Spanier to resign, correct? Or should my blood pressure not raise every time ESPN reports both JoePa and Spanier were both fired
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
by psuphysicist on Nov 10, 2011 2:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
this may have been posted already
but the Westboro Baptist Church has decided that they want to show us that there’s a way to make an already inflammatory situation worse…
Ungh…
Have they taken on something in this quantity before?
I want to say I fear for their lives, but they may be the only people on the planet who’s lives I may not actually care about.
by Rogue Nine on Nov 10, 2011 2:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i dunno
if they’ve ever been at a sporting event. and I don’t care either. i’m hoping they get pelted with jars of herlocher’s mustard or something
Sandusky
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
There's no way Penn State escapes this weekend
without several more lawsuits on their hand.
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Black Shoe Diaries
So who knew in 1987 if we wanted to side with the school that stood for the moral high ground, we should have been rooting for Miami?
by Skeptical Dawg on Nov 10, 2011 2:48 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The door, please find it.
Your trolling is not welcome here.
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by Kyle_Martin on Nov 10, 2011 3:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone here who didn't vote for Dan Onorato?
at least we could have had a more compassionate face tell us what was decided in a nearly unanimous vote.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
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