OPEN THREAD - Bowl Season Begins, NFL Moves to Saturdays
by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 2:30 PM EST
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Your Saturday lineup includes the first three bowls of the '11-'12 season as well as an NFL matchup this evening. Normal rules apply, unless you lose your 35 confidence points bowl, in which case we'll allow moderate swearing.
GILDAN NEW MEXICO BOWL
Temple Owls (-6) vs. Wyoming Cowboys
2p - ESPN
FAMOUS (!) IDAHO POTATO BOWL
Ohio Bobcats vs. Utah State Aggies (-2)
5:30p - ESPN
R+L CARRIERS NEW ORLEANS BOWL
San Diego State Aztecs (-4.5) vs. LA-Lafayette Ragin' Cajuns
9p - ESPN
NFL Week 15
Dallas Cowboys (-6) at Tampa Bay Bucaneers
8:20p - NFL Network
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How can somebody not watch this Temple game?
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Forget the 409 wins and 2 national championships. Joe Paterno helped mold thousands of young men into productive members of our society.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:34 PM EST reply actions
Nobody knows as of now
If Redd is out, well, it quite bad, but I’d have trust in Green.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Well, now somebody on 24/7 & FOS said it was a fight between 2 players
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Unless there were knives involved
I hardly see how that’s a big deal.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
by jesse. on Dec 17, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Honest question, who got the knife brandished at them?
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody would pull a knife on Devon
Well……..
that’s crazy!
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
and, IIRC
he said something to the effect of “suck up and stab me”.
It was Chris Bell (aka “Stabby McShankerson”), who then left. And is now on the Skins, just got called up to the regular squad before being lost for the season to injury.
From all appearances, Bell & Still got over it and still interact, in a good way, on twitter.
Please someone correct me if any of this is wrong.
Fire Dan Snyder
Ah, thanks
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
sack up and stab me
I believe that was the exact phrasing.
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I honestly don't remember.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
It's still behind a paywall.
So all I’ll say is that it’s neither injury nor transfer related. Pretty meh if you ask me, at least from what we know so far.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
It's truly a shame that the Sandusky story was not buried
Behind a Rivals.com paywall.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
by jesse. on Dec 17, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
It's come to this.
I tried to put up an open thread but couldn’t come up with 75 words. And what I came up with was largely derogatory of my parenting abilities.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
On a side note, This "Fight fight fight for the Cherry & the White" Song Temple has
Sounds exactly like “I know a song that gets on every bodies nerves”
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:41 PM EST reply actions
The reason Temple is winning
Is because I implemented my “not going with any MAC teams” plan for the first time this year.
Fire Dan Snyder
Betting against the MAC
Is looking like a terrible plan right now.
by FB_Dive_or_Bust on Dec 17, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
I like, kinda wanna root for Temple, since them winning would look good for us
But at the same time, man do their fans not deserve it at all
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:45 PM EST reply actions
Apparently the fight that took place was serious enough to call the EMS.
Still don’t know who was involved. I hope it was the two skinniest, whitest guys on the team (Sam Ficken has to be one) and the EMS was precautionary. We all need a good laugh.
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And there you go - McGloin and Drake.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
IN BOLDEN JONES WE TRUST
Drake? Well, that’s disappointing, but I still really like Devon. And Bill Belton.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
yeah if one or both get suspended for the bowl
losing Drake sucks, but losing McG is worse.
Fire Dan Snyder
At the same time, I'd be interested to see how Bolden has progressed over the intermediate bowl practices
If he made a Devon Still-like jump, that’d be great.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
That
Is very wishful thinking.
I like it.
.....that which we are, WE ARE;
One equal temper of heroic hearts
by SarcasmJam on Dec 17, 2011 3:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Blue Kool-Aid or bust!
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
McGloin injured in fight
What kind of suspension rules apply in a situation such as this?
Would both players be suspended? Neither? Only the instigator? Coin flip?
Fire Dan Snyder
Beats me.
This isn’t Joseph Vincent’s team anymore, so you can throw the old rulebook out the window. Not sure what Bradley will do for the bowl game.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Since Tom Bradley said...
“stay out of trouble” about 6,000 times after the Ohio State game, I’m concerned. Man, what the hell.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
ala an old western gun fight
They took 10 steps, turned, and attempted to throw accurate spirals at each others heads. Drake struck gold and hit McGroin between the eyes.
I made that up.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Cory Giger
is describing it as “very bad” and “incredibly embarrassing.” Of course, that’s how I would describe Giger as well.
by NittanyBlueHen on Dec 17, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
honestly
I’m a little bit surprised something like this hasn’t happened already. Emotions have been so high.
Fire Dan Snyder
I was thinking the same thing
Not trying to make excuses….but this team has had so much to deal with lately….I’m honestly a little surprised this hasn’t happened yet.
More info coming out.
Not looking good for Drake, given his prior transgressions.
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Do we know who started it?
Sorry, don’t want this to turn into a “gossip” thread, but if it’s coming from info behind a pay site, I don’t think a lot of us can get that information.
Still don't know that, even behind the paywall.
It should be noted though that both MM and Drake are type-A guys. Not surprised at all at the actual fighters.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Basically, from what I heard..
McGloin/Drake were going back and forth in practice. Drake came up afterwards to make amends in the locker room, and for whatever reason, it made McGloin mad and he might have thrown a punch. Drake responded in kind and hit him and it was kind of like a bam, one shot and over type dealy. Unfortunate, but stuff like that happens in football.
by AlmostAYardShy on Dec 17, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
And I know this is horrible and might get some negative comments....
but I did LOL just a bit when I saw that Drake him him once and McG was out. Apparently McG picked the wrong guy to mess with.
Could have just got him square.
How many UFC fights or fights on any truTV show end with one pop to the face?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
True life.
Read an article by Chuck Liddell a while back on bar fighting “tips.” His first tip was 1) don’t do it (because it’s always dumb) but his second tip was that one well-placed punch is better than a barrage of fists.
Still, this is awful. I think both guys need suspended, at least. Can’t have this when there’s already a ton of problems in the program. It really stinks for them both.
by AlmostAYardShy on Dec 17, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I understand
If I got hit, I’m sure it would be the same thing. I think it was just how I read it. Ya know, Drake wants to apologize, McGloin doesn’t like it and tries to be tough and then Drake ends it. Does that make sense?
Temple comes back and trolls Wyoming through the air
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Their fans can eff off
But allll day for the matchup
so the fight was after practice? today?
so there was practice on the day of graduation? I am confused.
Fire Dan Snyder
I would also like to lodge a protest that there are Dr Pepper 10 ads on this site
I know you guys have no say in that, but I still find their whole tv ad campaign very offensive as a woman.
Fire Dan Snyder
Don't buy the product.
I don’t plan on buying it. Whoever their ad agency was has to be the dumbest fucking people ever. “Hey, you know what’s a good marketing strategy? Alienate 51% of the population, including the vast majority of family grocery shoppers!”
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm intrigued.
Why is it offensive? Silly? Sure. But the message is that diet isn’t only for women, which has been the case in the past (from a marketing standpoint, and there is probably some data to back it up as well).
Pro-guys, as silly as that sounds, doesn’t necessarily mean anti-women. And vice versa of course.
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No, it flat out says "Dr Pepper 10 isn't for women"
not “it’s for men”. “it’s not for women.” that’s saying that women shouldn’t buy it, trying to alienate the female portion of society.
Honestly I’m pretty sure they didn’t intend it that way. But I know I’m not the only one who took it that way. And you would think that focus groups would have suggested something to the effect.
Also, I find it telling that the only time I’ve seen this commercial is during football—more male-driven entertainment. If it was gender neutral, they would have attached it to more gender neutral programming.
Fire Dan Snyder
It's possible that your taking it a bit too literally.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
No, I am taking it literally
Because it literally says that the product is not for me.
Fire Dan Snyder
I understand.
But it’s a Dr. Pepper commercial.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Yes, it is?
Does that mean I shouldn’t be offended? It’s a national spotlight, and the makers of the commercial are overtly excluding my gender. I understand that it is somewhat trivial, but in some ways I find this indicative of our society as a greater whole—albeit nowadays the discrimination is more covert than this. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t there. It also doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Fire Dan Snyder
I'm sorry.
But it’s not discrimination, it’s a silly commercial, aimed at morons who are concerned that purchasing diet soda would make them look effeminate. It’s the same thing as a truck commercial, it’s just less subtle.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I agree with NC that the commercial is offensive.
If they had said, “Dr. Pepper 10 it’s not for gays/blacks/old people/whatever” it would be seen an offensive by a larger segment of society. It’s also a dumb move from a PR standpoint, IMO. I don’t drink Diet Pepper anyway, so it’s not changing my behavior at all.
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I agree that it's offensive.
To my intelligence. My Wife has a Masters Degree in Women’s Studies, trust me, I’m all about equal rights, but it’s just a joke. It’s not mean spirited; it’s totally tongue in cheek.
Frankly, I think to the extent the joke is in poor taste, it is because it stereotypes men as to being so hyper-concerned about their masculinity they won’t purchase diet soda. And I burn through a case of diet soda in three days.
And I didn’t say the NC was not entitled to her opinion. I said I disagreed with her opinion.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Or to put it another way...
Am I allowed to be offended that I am constantly marketed to like I am a 14 year old gorilla?
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
look
its not our fault that guys can have a real good time better than women can. It’s science.
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What are the ads?
Because all I ever see is that apparently I’m having a real good time
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
idk, some of the girls/women i know
have made sure to get some as an eff-you to dr. pepper. dumb on their part, absolutely. but brilliant from a marketing perspective if this is happening elsewhere.
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yeah IMO that's not an eff you
because they get paid that way. I really want to try it, but there’s no way I will. May be petty on my part, I really don’t care…they don’t want me to buy their product, you bet your ass they won’t be getting my money.
Fire Dan Snyder
that was not meant to come across as bitchy, I apologize if it did
my ire is firmly towards Dr P on this one
Fire Dan Snyder
No, I agree completely.
It’s really dumb on the girls’ parts. But if this is happening elsewhere, then I’ll give Dr. P credit where credit is due.
FWIW – it doesn’t taste any different than diet, so you’re not missing out.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
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wow, I apologize for even bringing this up
because apparently I have gotten “chippy” about it
Fire Dan Snyder
I want you on my checking line.
Chippy is good.
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Hey Lion fans...
Is Temple coach Steve Addazio on the short list for the Penn State job? His resume is pretty impressive. Worked under Meyer at Florida, but the rest of his coaching has been in the Northeast and Midwest. So he has strong ties to Penn State’s key areas, but also spent six years down in Florida.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 17, 2011 4:25 PM EST reply actions
Why not?
Pardon my ignorance, just curious that’s all… Am I missing something? Is their bad blood there?
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 17, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well, first off the Florida fans were very very happy to get rid of him.
I don’t know too much, I’m sure some of the other guys can enlighten you, but I do NOT like the guy. Just something about him. I really liked Golden, but when Addazio took over, the whole tone of the Temple program was more arrogance and less hard work. My opinion.
Fire Dan Snyder
I see.
It seems that he’s been getting results though. Three of his losses have been by four points or less. Now they’re domination their bowl game. This team was a few minutes from being 12-1.
7th ranked rushing offense.
15th ranked defense in yards allowed per game.
3rd in scoring defense.
17th in sacks.
24th in turnover margin (only turned it over 12 times all year).
13th in net punting.
Sounds like Penn State’s kind of coach.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 17, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
dominating*
having grammar problems today.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 17, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
IMO
just having good numbers doesn’t necessarily make him our kind of coach.
Again, I don’t know too much about him off the field, I just don’t have a great feeling.
Fire Dan Snyder
I get that.
But he is one of Meyer’s boys back to their days at ND, and based on Urban’s track record, that speaks volumes.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 17, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
The only teams that have fewer turnovers than Temple
Are Wisconsin and LSU.
Like I said, on paper he looks like a Penn State kind of coach.
Also, he held Penn State to their lowest rushing total all year (92 yards on 36 carries, 2.56 yards per carry… pretty impressive).
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 17, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Sup guys.. and Diva's...
‘Watched’ the temple game.. im getting all excited for the ‘Famous’ tater bowl!! GAME OF THE CENTURY!!
OH NO!!
Its on the blue field?!?
/sighs
/covers eyes
/too late…
/eyes bleed
by archerbullseye on Dec 17, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
I turned it off
and changed to watching Home Alone. Much more fun.
Movie’s over now, though. I am with you on the turf, so I’m not sure if I can stomach this bowl game.
Fire Dan Snyder
Judging by most computer rankings...
If the MAC can win all of their bowl games (possible, but not probable) and the Big East loses all of their bowl games (possible, but again, not probable), then the MAC would almost certainly finish ahead of the Big East in conference strength in the minds of the computers.
That would be hilarious! And it bodes well for the B1G, since the MAC is like our little brother conference. It’s where we get our coaches and cupcake games.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 17, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
How the hell are the Ohio Bobcats recruiting nationally?
These guys are from everywhere.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
ESPN chick
Called off the o line from pouring the gatorade on Frank Solich after the game (thus alerting him to their presence and plan), as she had one more question to ask.
This is immediately after Ohio achieved its first ever bowl victory in a great and dramatic finish.
ESPN just keeps proving that it thinks it is so much more important than anything it reports.
No offense to the media as a profession, but in every situation, the event being reported is more important than the reporter.
by FB_Dive_or_Bust on Dec 17, 2011 9:10 PM EST reply actions
i gotta admit
solich looks like a dude who won’t take kindly to a gatorade bath
watch him walk, talk about a tight a***
but yeah, HELL of a job with the bobcats
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
Congrtas
to Temple. Well deserved win, hopefully get some respect back to the program from those that don’t know….
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