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Good greif.
Just when I thought it was okay to check the internet again.
by psuwxman on Dec 17, 2011 4:24 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
2011...
Go away!
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
by LB31Monster on Dec 17, 2011 4:27 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Are we at rock bottom yet?
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So . . .
Don’t fuck with Curtis Drake?
Can he skate?
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Sigh
This is how I feel. Just sigh.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Big Ten...or just lose the sweater vest.
by amandakt on Dec 17, 2011 4:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm just really glad that we gave McGloin a chance to become the guy.
And when he outperformed Bolden, we thought, “Well, he’s not good enough to be the guy. Neither’s Bolden. But now that McGloin is better, let’s just switch to one QB. Surely that won’t screw us later on.”
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Uh...sure.
Completely unrelated to the QB competition.
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by Adam Collyer on Dec 17, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
If McGloin can't play
and we have to play Bolden who hasn’t seen significant minutes in 3 months for no real good reason, then yes, it’s related.
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Not really.
Or else EVERY other team would be guilty of this. Dead issue.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
It's not like McGloin was sent to the hospital with a skull fracture
One punch knockout, will be fine tomorrow after a few ice packs to the head.
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Please look behind you.
You missed the point.
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Reply fail
Was meant for Shell…where he is saying that if matt can’t play
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If he's suspended from the team for the bowl game?
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You really think that will happen?
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Well,
it was reported by Kevin McGuire (@PSUExaminer) that Bolden would start, but he has since deleted the tweet.
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There is no tweet more reliable...
…than the deleted one.
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It wasn't deleted when I said "If McGloin can't play"
so I thought that perhaps McGloin had been suspended.
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#TeamBolden
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know Kevin personally
I will find out
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Just out of curiosity, how do you know him?
I went to the same high school, just a few years later.
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Went to college together
Was in his wedding also, known him for about 12 years now
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No real reason Bolden hasn't seen significant minutes?
No offense – but have you watched Penn State’s football games at all this season?
Bolden was awful and was getting progressively worse as the season went on.
by catesinator on Dec 19, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I still think going with McG was the right thing to do.
I’m not sure where you are going with this.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
I don't see your angle here.
Are you upset we didn’t stick with Bolden? I’m just trying to hone in on your central thesis here.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully this humbles McGloin a little bit
We can all grumble about his play on the field, but that’s not all his fault. But his attitude certainly is, and it’s in desperate need of improvement. I hope he’s okay, but I hope this teaches him a lesson, too, if even his teammates are fed up with his crap.
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 4:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That is to say that McGloin started this all
And we simply do not know that at this point. What if it was Drake who started everything?
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Maybe McGloin had a good reason to be talking to Drake...
We don’t know. Let’s not be the Board of Trustees here. Fights in practice happen. This wouldn’t be that big of a deal in any other year.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
From everything I've seen this season
His attitude has been VERY different this year than last. So I disagree that it’s in “desperate need of improvement”.
Fire Dan Snyder
Well,
he’s still McMoxie. It’s who he is, and some people just don’t like the attitude. But yes, it was better, especially after he got rid of the Irish flag mouth guard.
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Curtis Drake shows up with pack of players. Left hand in coat pocket.
Via Ben. The raises one big question: Are the players behind Drake? Did he show up when the others show up, or did they all come together?
Is the team against Matt in this instance? Maybe I’m reading alittle too much into it, but, I dunno, that gives me pause
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 4:44 PM EST reply actions
I don't know.
He still has friends. If you gather 100 people you know together, and your friend gets in a fight, you’re probably still going to walk around with him afterwards.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Shows up where?
What does this mean?
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430 team meeting.
Lasted 10 minutes. Awaiting PSU statement.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Team meeting
That was announced for 430
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It looks like this one's on Matt
See above. Drake tried to make amends and then Matt initiates contact.
I am a Penn State Nittany Lion, and I played for the legendary Joe Paterno, and more importantly, I am a man because of it. - Lavar Arrington
But if a dude is raggin on you for, lets say 2 hours
And then comes over and possibly tries to make amends, you might not want to hear it.
Just don’t know.
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
But what was the cause of the in-practice squabbling?
Could just as easily be on Drake.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure what the problem was.
Very certain punching somebody in the face hasn’t helped it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Absolutely as the root
But as a supposed leader of the team you gotta know when you just walk away.
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by LegalLion on Dec 17, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Everybody HOLD ON!!!
Too much speculation.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
It's the internet.
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Your Glass Joe image seems particularly appropriate for this thread
The blood of "The Five" cries for justice.
I think people are going a little too nuts over this. I would put to much on the fact that police were called. I have a feeling we’re going to see the police called when two guys look at each other wrong from now on.
We’ve heard Drake went to the meeting so clearly he wasn’t arrested. McGloin’s not in the hospital so obviously the rumor that he was badly injured is probably false.
Not saying it’s good, but anyone whose played sports on an all guys team knows fights occasionally do happen. Always a shame to see.
Yes.
But have you seen the schedule of games today? It really sucks. It was getting chippy over a Dr. Pepper commercial in the other thread.
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That is funny
Damn Dr. Pepper commercials, when will you learn, that your tearing this nation apart!!!
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by AriesGD on Dec 17, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
C'mon everyone. Can't we just all have a real good time?
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Dec 17, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Love the offseason...
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
I saw that and laughed
I mean who cares it’s Dr. Pepper it sucks anyway.
A real good time was had by none.
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
OH C'MON SD STATE VS ULL IS LEGIT
But seriously, SD State has star power, this is ULL’s first bowl
Kinda wanna see it. Ohio-USU is…. meh
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Never saw McGloin enter or exit building. Not at hospital though.
Well….. crap. Hopefully he’s still in there getting chewed out by Tom
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 4:55 PM EST reply actions
No, his dad said he was at his apartment at one point
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The apartment tweet
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Ah, thanks for that
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously not to say that he didn't sneak past someone or go in another way that Ben didn't see.
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That is always a good thing to do in situations like these.
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With you there buddy.
Yuenglings going down like water.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Listen to this guy.
He’s Pre-Med.
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What's the difference?
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by jesse. on Dec 17, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Isnt this an indictment of our educational systems in general?
Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
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Preternatural.
What the hell just happened?
by Pete the Streak on Dec 17, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
I drank the last of my beers yesterday.
Need to make a run. In the meantime, I’m cleaning the bathroom so I guess I’ll have to settle for bleach fumes.
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Was that guy going down on Dustin Rhoads?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
And, rec'd.
If it was silver paint, I could’ve used Kenny Powers’ “you look like you were blowing Robocop” line.
by Chris Grovich on Dec 17, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
huffing paint is the only really funny drug addiction
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Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
Huffers know the best paint to huff is the gold paint.
Gold paint is said to get the user higher than other colors.
Perhaps Ill send a case up north…
Proud mini-Saban.
by Tidee Whitee on Dec 20, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
David Jones now reporting that McGloin DID go to the hospital.
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So is Donnie Collins
possible seizure? Jeez.
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
If he were knocked out.
That would make sense.
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Lovely, Just Lovely
Hope he’s alright
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I'm starting to wish that we had simply skipped the bowl.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I'm not
The media would just pile on even more and the bowl practices mean wayyy too much for us
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
There are reports that many on the team felt the same way.
Some of the upperclassmen, though, talked them into accepting the bid.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
So wait that says there is no police report
Twitter was saying the police were called. Is it possible the kid just had a seizure without the fight being a part of it.
Matt would have to file one.
Which I doubt he will.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Even if he was knocked out?
I thought if someone was knocked out it was automatically criminal? Could be making that up though not sure where I would have even heard that from.
You can always ask the state not to press charges
whether they listen is a different scenario.
I think
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Ok thanks
I can honestly say thankfully I’ve never been involved with something like this so I have no idea how it works.
Not that I'm aware of.
My general experience is that when two grown men get in a fight, and agree that it’s over, the cops stop caring. But these days, who the hell knows?
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Did JoePa say it was over?
He is the ultimate authority in State College after all.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Dec 17, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For gods sake...
Has even called Curley and Schultz yet?
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by jesse. on Dec 17, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No he’s waiting till monday. Says everyone’s got a lot going on with the holidays gonna wait till the weekends over.
by psuwresfan on Dec 17, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did McQueary try to stop it?
Where was McGloin’s body in relation to Drake’s?
by psu2007 on Dec 17, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm concerned...
I haven’t heard if the jurisdictional force field was activated or not.
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by jesse. on Dec 17, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Apparently he was horizontal to Drakes verticle
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by letsgopsu on Dec 18, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
This is my understanding as well.
Pressing charges has to be a major headache for police, at least for instances where both parties agree its over.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
This is what happened with the Pitt fight last year.
The guy who got his ass kicked was drunk and made a crack about the player being with a white girl. When he came to, he decided that it was better to leave it alone, and the PPD forgot about it.
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Joe controls the Pittsburgh Police too!?
It’s all starting to make sense…wait, no. No its not.
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It's all so simple...
Wait a minute, no it’s not. It’s needlessly complicated.
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I'm pretty sure a fight on campus is going to get a report
Likely nothing comes of it, but remember the reason the US Department of Eduacation is investigating PSU in the whole Sandusky affair is due to issues with reporting campus crimes. Assault is one of the categories I believe so expect the cops to be dotting I’s and crossing T’s.
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You are right
I forget the name of the act but it originated with a murder that took place in Lehigh. Anyways schools get in big trouble for not reporting on campus crime
The blood of "The Five" cries for justice.
It’s called the Clery Act. VT was fined $60,000 for violating it earlier this year.
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by blackjackfishtaco on Dec 18, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I thought if you fought while enrolled at PSU you got kicked out.
Almost positive that’s the way it was when I was there. (If you got caught fighting, of course.)
Schultz is the go to guy here.
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by kijana's acl on Dec 17, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Literally laughing out loud. Well played.
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by Horse N Buggy on Dec 17, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a mirror in the locker room?
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by joefromboalsburg on Dec 17, 2011 5:10 PM EST reply actions
Not to be facetious
but Penn State should consider security cameras in its locker room
The blood of "The Five" cries for justice.
Yes but only reflects from the waist up
No one could see McG fishing out on the floor having a seizure.
by PSUinOH on Dec 18, 2011 5:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
they make zero sense
I can’t tell if he’s butthurt or trying to curry favor with BWI.
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
That would be hilarious
Given the amount of shit he used to give me for following “those sites.”
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Anything worth re-posting?
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just general inanity.
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
So definitely worth reposting!
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, you mean Ben Jones
the guy standing in the cold outside Lasch, trying to get quotes from players post-meeting? Not some random jagoff retweeting a bunch of crap from the comfort of his apartment?
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It's funny
he keeps asking people credit NateBauerBWI who openly admits that he’s just reposting second hand info
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You mean that 'real' reporter guy? That guy?
What the hell just happened?
by Pete the Streak on Dec 17, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
It Time!
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Down Down, Down Down
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by joefromboalsburg on Dec 17, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions
Everyone needs to get their ass kicked once...it is a great reality check
Luckily guys usually don’t hold grudges, will probably be good friends after this blows over…not worried.
Big deal he got knocked out…happens a lot
May no act.................
by SweepTheLeg on Dec 17, 2011 5:20 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
If the bowl game was within 5 days, I'd be concerned
But it’s over a week away and the kids have likely just finished up finals. Now they can focus on football and put all this crap behind them. A lot of stress being blown off right now.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they're going to reopen the Endzone?
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
wait, I was thinking of something else.
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I never went to the endzone
Describe it
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I never went.
But one year we tried to have them as our Homecoming partner. IFC did not allow it.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well theres a stage and a pole...
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It's a strip club.
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Kind of like a truck stop.
Except with Strippers.
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No, that's Streakers.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
No that it is a truck stop with Strippers.
It’s a subtle difference.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Also...
I’ve been to some scary strip clubs in my day. I speed up when I drive by that place. It terrifies me.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Same.
In fact that whole stretch of 22 scares me.
And you haven’t been to a seedy strip club until you’ve been to Castle Shannon. Tennyson Lodge will make you rethink your desire to see women with no clothes on.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Are we talking the drive-through strip club?
Tempted so many times while driving through there.
by Chris Grovich on Dec 17, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
No that's Climax Red Top.
It’s closed.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
That was our old meeting place in my college days.
We’d meet our buddies from IUP on our ways home. Of course back then it was just the Climax….only one building (and the girls hung an onion around their waist…which was the style at the time). Still BYOB and full nudity.
Good times!
The Pittsburgh/State College drive is almost all highway now.
But it has lost a lot of character. I haven’t stopped at “Ray & Dave’s….This is the Place” in years. Of course, have you seen the Super Champs in Altoona? Neither have I, cause I go to Hooters instead, but it looks impressive.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Yeah, different back in my day.
Had to go through Cresson, Altoona, etc. The entire drive was dangerous as all hell. I crashed on it once.
I can remember the pre-super highway days.
And I thought those were bad. I can’t imagine having to drive country roads all the way.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
My freshman year I sometimes took the Water Street way.
My dad taught me that one. By the time I was a senior I couldn’t even remember how to do it!
(Had my car there my freshman year…registered under my sister, who was a soph.)
Anyway, as memory serves...
..the Water Street way was even more “rural”.
This was in the early 80s.
There is back way at the Tyrone exit...
…that drops you right into Boalsburg. That is a very rural route. Saves sometime though, at least it does if your going to Boalsburg.
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All I seem to remember...
You would make I think a right at Water Street (45??) in Altoona. Then you’d end up coming in to SC from the west on 26.
No, have not seen Super Champs.
Sound nice though!
It's been closed for awhile.
But that area in general is sketchy.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
That was one of the first strip clubs I went to. Right down the road from my undergrad. It’s a helluva story for anyone who doesn’t know about it.
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by blackjackfishtaco on Dec 18, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Been there.
Bare-eoke.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Yea.
Yikes.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
The Cricket in Oakland was at least as bad.
There was place called Anthony’s that was a few blocks up that was better, although it was much smaller.
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Cricket is bad ass.
That’s where I celebrated passing the bar. Tennyson doesn’t compare to Cricket.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno
I never wound up there on purpose. I usually had to have been cut-off at least one other bar before that seemed like a good idea.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Oh, of course.
Same for both. For my bar celebration, it was Walnut Grove to get wine-drunk, probably Doc’s for some shots, and then Cricket.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Walnut Grove?
Is that the round place on 88 by the T-stop?
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
No, in Shadyside across from Doc's.
Maybe Shady Grove.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's Linden Grove.
Now that I think about it.
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Docs Place in Shadyside?
Once saw Lynn Swann with Mr. Rogers there.
Also a buddy pissed in a cup right in front of everyone up on the roof and put it in one of those planters.
That rooftop bar is awesome.
But you could do some shit like that and not get noticed.
I was once physically thrown out (think Mr. Banks and Jazz from Fresh Prince) from the WP Tavern in Shadyside. Ahhh law school.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
No idea how he got away with that.
I was talking to some girls at the time and THEY noticed it and brought it to my attention. Also, obviously he did not have a “shy bladder”!
I had a custody case settle last week over a "shy bladder"
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I insisted that Dad take a drug test.
Because he was a drug addict, and a criminal. So he wanted by client to take one too, and she didn’t care, because she is not a drug addict and a criminal.
We had an agreement that was premised upon the parties having clean urine screens. Dad tested positive for a synthetic version of heroin that he had a prescription for. Mom couldn’t piss in front of the cops.
I went to Dad’s lawyer and told him that he could have the deal without the piss test, or we could wait for the results, which would be clean. However, if we waited for the results, I was going to demand a trial, because of the drug test.
Dad took the deal, and I went to Smokey Bones a winner.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
You seem well suited
for your profession and specialization. I sense that you truly enjoy the give and take of competition.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
To paraphrase Jackie Brown
I’m just a young guy having fun being a lawyer. There’s nothing wrong with that.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Went to both of them years ago for a bachelor party.
At one of them I complimented the dancer by saying she should dance at The Farm (a really bad strip bar on old 22 near the WV border…full nudity, yet they still sold alcohol…illegal as hell, but they got away with it somehow) and she thought I meant dance at an actual farm. So she took it the wrong way and said something smart to me. I was all liquored up and started saying things like “Yeah…you take off your clothes for a living. So what did you get on your SATs??”.
So we go to the other one and I was sitting on the step to the stage (to get a better view). Some other group of guys got pissed cause they couldn’t see. That almost started a big rumble until “security” made me (and by extension my buddies) leave.
Try the one in downtown Coraopolis.
Went there for some lame-o bachelor party over 20 years ago. The “girl” came out to dance on the bar and me and my buddy went and played video games. Yeah, she was that bad.
Haha, I work somewhat near Coraopolis.
Might have to take a work lunch there.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
No, not Silkys.
It was in downtown Cory….4th Avenue or whatever. Berrardis or something like that? May not be there anymore.
I did a POS Magistrate hearing in Cory once.
I met a guy who knew he was getting sent to jail for a probation violation, so his response was to show up to the hearing shit faced drunk. It was hard to argue with the logic, but still…
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Awesome.
I love Pittsburgh.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
He was proud of himself.
He had on three pairs of socks and brought a toothbrush.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Brilliant.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
I laughed for like ten minutes at this.
My only strip club story is going to Lincoln Speedway one night and seeing a sprint car being sponsored by some hole called Buck Rubs. Classy driver.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 17, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I know this sounds hard to believe in light of these posts...
…but I really haven’t been to a lot of strip clubs and also don’t much like them. I was either dragged to them by my buddies (went with the crowd) or most of them were bachelor parties. It was usually a lot of fun because there was a gang of us (so almost anything would be fun), but they were never a habit for me or something I preferred to do. Heck, once I fell asleep at one. Couple of buddies who worked with my wife got a kick out of telling her, “Yep, naked women right in front of him and he’s snoozing.”
Once I went to one in Weirton to celebrate a co-worker’s leaving for a new job. I didn’t know the guy real well, but other buddies did and they knew I knew my way around Weirton…that’s mainly why I went. So I get us to this place (which you had to go to the back door, which was locked, and they slid a peephole open to see who you were first like a speakeasy), but my wife wanted me home by a certain time. I didn’t have a watch, but noticed one of the dancers did (that was about all she had on). So I call her over and she thinks it’s to get a tip and instead I ask her for the time. She got pissed; I got the hell out of there because I was late.
by J Breezy on Dec 18, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
babies
you need to go to the Cleremont Lounge in Atlanta. I have spoken of it on here before.
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Ahhhh, see, this is descriptive!
I figured it was strip club, but it was always in a weird location.
I still always pictured it as a high class place
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
No, it's really not.
I think the roof of their “beer porch” was a blue tarp.
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So it's not like a truck stop
It’s like a truck stop in Ohio
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Just because it has good parking does not mean it's a shoddy place
There is a certain panache in pulling an RV up to park across 4 spaces in a strip club parking lot. Additional succinct(ish) praises follow in lieu of 2000 word post that would inject far too much creepiness into the already sketchy PR my screen name has collected:
1. The poles are 27 feet tall. There are four of them. All dancers are adept at maneuvering upon them.
2. The strippers are hot. They have gotten sooo hot. Between ND 2007 & Bama 2011, the improvements in this category cannot be undersold. I’ve lived in DC for 15 years and the women at the End Zone right now can absolutely pass muster with those at Camelot.
3. Free beer. (/waits. /let’s that sink in). Yes, the bar out the back (not in the same structure as the nudity, to circumvent PA LCB) now just gives away their beer. Kegs of Yuengling & some lites.
4. Zero pressure. After you drop the $20 bones to walk through the door, you could spend hours there without spending another dollar. They have against the wall seating that practically invites it. Granted, the non-cheapskates have more fun in the around-the-pole seats, but it can be done.
My roommates took me there for my 20th birthday
They were all 21, so they could drink on the beer porch. I was 20, so I got very drunk before we got there. I puked all over the inside of the bathroom door, then ran outside and hid from the bouncer in the bushes while I waited for someone to come pick me up. Good times.
Unrelated – Sundowners near Niagara Falls was awesome the one time I was there. BEST. STRIP CLUB. BUFFET. EVAR.
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by Horse N Buggy on Dec 17, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
I was at a place in San Antonio that had $5 NY Strip Steak.
It was pretty decent. Awesome by strip club standards.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Spent three hours waiting for a ride at a Philly club once.
Buffet wasn’t too bad. Sat just off-rail enough to not have to tip, too!
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
I am appalled that the stripper would make you wait 3 hours
I would have asked to speak to her manager.
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by Horse N Buggy on Dec 17, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BA-ZINGA!
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by Jeff Junstrom on Dec 17, 2011 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
BTW.. we all know i would knock Drake the fuck out.. just saying
I’d be more worried, but Belton called someone a fag over twitter, and nobody on the team was mad. So i dunno, I’m ambivalent atm
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, just gonna say that
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Same
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Alogn with the earlier thing
Recent allegations and rumors are all lies. Starting to get sick over this bullshit. If you have a story to report be a man and see me.
@RyanBurrESPN not true
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Please tell me it's not him!
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by Succss With Honor Always on Dec 17, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Oh it's him.
Ask Jeff about the time he called him a dick.
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I think the team may have staged this whole thing to make the media look stupid?
When you put those black shoes on tomorrow, and you put on that jersey without your name on the back, and you put that plain helmet on, that's tradition. Penn State tradition!
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by run4peach on Dec 17, 2011 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
we need to stage things to prove that?
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by skarocksoi on Dec 17, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BobFlounders:
Paul and wife Cathy with Matt in his apartment spent time Matt at my nittany medical center earlier also likely has concussion per Paul
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and
Paul McGloin said mri and catscan on Matt negative … Cathy staying with Matt overnight…family awaiting more word from docs
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
That is awfully quick
When you put those black shoes on tomorrow, and you put on that jersey without your name on the back, and you put that plain helmet on, that's tradition. Penn State tradition!
--Who else?
by run4peach on Dec 17, 2011 5:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yea I have to question some of that. I mean I’ve been to Mt. Nittany for an MRI before they don’t move through those things too quickly.
I was in an MRI there for 40 minutes once
I think I was one of the first people to listen to Hawai-an music there
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
40 minutes you got off lucky
I went in once for an mri on my knee. Was there for at least an hour. I never got the music thing, everyone knows you can’t hear shit anyway.
Yeah I couldn't really hear it. I should've brought something loud
Think I fell asleep anyways
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
all the players i follow
Are trying to get 10 for hoops
When you put those black shoes on tomorrow, and you put on that jersey without your name on the back, and you put that plain helmet on, that's tradition. Penn State tradition!
--Who else?
by run4peach on Dec 17, 2011 5:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I love Andy Goodman.
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
"My twitter has been hacked into again. Please ignore all posts"
You can guess who.
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Urban Meyer back at it again
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Also, if you're getting hacked, you must have some weak ass password
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
I can confirm
his password is neither
“mcgloin”
“scranton”
“password”
or “moxie”
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by Devon Edwards on Dec 17, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Or "Michael Spinks"
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by kijana's acl on Dec 17, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
That's amazing! That's the same password I have on my luggage!
by cjapsu on Dec 17, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Mel Brooks Moxie
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by Dr Screenpass on Dec 17, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
tweeting
From the hospital? Already had an MRI and a radiologist read it that quick? Something stinks.
When you put those black shoes on tomorrow, and you put on that jersey without your name on the back, and you put that plain helmet on, that's tradition. Penn State tradition!
--Who else?
by run4peach on Dec 17, 2011 5:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree.
What the hell just happened?
by Pete the Streak on Dec 17, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
tweeting
From the hospital? Already had an MRI and a radiologist read it that quick? Something stinks.
When you put those black shoes on tomorrow, and you put on that jersey without your name on the back, and you put that plain helmet on, that's tradition. Penn State tradition!
--Who else?
by run4peach on Dec 17, 2011 5:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I still agree.
What the hell just happened?
by Pete the Streak on Dec 17, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is actually kinda funny
RuhRoweGBOD Darin James Rowe
@ @elevenwarriors @MacQB11 his punch would fall incomplete.
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Cell phone camera confirmation.
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by MainLion on Dec 17, 2011 5:54 PM EST reply actions 17 recs
clap...clap...clap...clap...
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@MacQB11 I guess next time someone trips around the football facility we should report it to police immediately,
If your Twitter gets hacked, you should probably change your password to something else so they can’t do it again. Or change it to something really random and complex.
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There's an XKCD for everything.
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by mvrck on Dec 17, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Fun thread, but in all seriousness....
Is anyone else thinking maybe the players are getting a little “bold” due to there being no coach/leader? The longer this search goes on, the more prone we are to this kind of thing.
I don’t think that has much to do with it honestly. Bradley doesn’t seem like the kind of guy you would want to piss off.
And the more I read the more this sounds like much ado about nothing.
Maybe so, but he's lame duck so why would they really care?
They might think they can get away with more because Joe’s not there and the current HC is not going to be there shortly.
Yea I get what your saying.
But I just think fights happen all the time no matter who the coach is.
Really?
I must be naive because I don’t think fights like that happen very often. Especially between the starting qb and another quasi-starter/best athlete on the team.
Skirmishes in practice…yeah, I think those are common. But knockout fights with punches to the face/head? I don’t think so, but again I could be incredibly naive about it all.
Actually...
I’m surprised that with all the uncertainty and tension around the program, this kind of thing hasn’t happened before now.
...with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right... - Abraham Lincoln
Yawn
Players fight sometimes. Maybe this was worse than a normal fight, but it’s still just a fight.
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jesse., please describe Utah State's uniforms...
Sure, they look like Penn State, if Penn State had really shitty uniforms.
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by jesse. on Dec 17, 2011 6:16 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
So, it's official.
No knock out punch, he had a seizure.
I think we can all agree this is invariably worse, right? Getting knocked out from a punch to the grill can be expected. Rendered unconscious from a mystery seizure? That sounds like a health problem to me.
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I'm not sure if they still do this
but when I was in college, they would suspend your driver’s license if you had a seizure. I remember when I was a sophomore in the dorms, one of the girls from the floor below us had a friend visiting for the weekend. She was hanging out in our room when she had a seizure. We had no clue what to do, so we called 911. When she game back from the hospital the next morning, I remember she was totally pissed at us for calling 911. We couldn’t understand why. The girl she was staying with said she was pissed because she was going to have her license suspended for 6 months or something like that.
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by Horse N Buggy on Dec 17, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
true
I had an intern who had seizures, he had to be seizure free for 6 months to get his license back
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Mcqueary's latest tweets:
MacQB11 Matt McGloin
Spring Semester 2012 Hot Spots : Club/Bar : Indigo.. Fraternity : Phi Sigma Kappa
and
Avoid Lasch football building.. nothing but trouble there ha ha ha
I think we can safely assume he has really been hacked.
...with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right... - Abraham Lincoln
*McGloin's latest tweets
My brain is fried.
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by Dr Screenpass on Dec 17, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
HE'S ON DRUGS NOW!
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Dec 17, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
The NFL just fined James Harrison again.
Just to be sure.
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hahaha
As a 49ers fan I can say I fully support the NFL for suspending him for Monday’s game. Of course if the Niners are without Joe Staley and Patrick Willis it likely won’t matter.
The Steelers aren't that complicated.
If you can get some turnovers, and you can, they are very beatable. If you don’t get any, forget about it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I dunno, Niners played like pure crap last week. If willis is out that’s a big hole in their d. And the niners offense will likely only score about 10 points. I’m not overly optimistic, but we’ll see.
Partly I think it’s just part of being a fan of the niners and the orioles. I just expect them to suck, so when they’re decent it’s difficult for me to accept.
West Coast trips are always tough.
I’m not sure, but I think if Baltimore wins, you might see some Steelers sit who otherwise would have played through injuries.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Rational choice would predict this.
I don’t know how the league removes the incentive to set-up for the playoffs rather than compete fully in the present though. It happens in every sport (e.g., set your pitching rotation).
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
It's goofy, because the NFL people rag on college so hard...
THE BOWL GAMES ARE MEANINGLESS! Ever watched a week 16 NFL Game? 90% those are total nonsense.
YEA, BUT WE DON"T GET TO HAVE WARM UP GAMES AGAINST LITTLE SISTERS OF THE POOR! No dipshit, you have a pre-season.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I tend to be very skeptical of these "bias" arguments out there,
but the league is doing a fine job of making it appear that they are prosecuting a vendetta against Deebo. The stuff against the Browns last year is dubious at best — particularly the Cribbs hit — he was running the ball in heavy traffic near the line of scrimmage. To deem intent there is bogus. They expect x-ray vision? So the rationale for a suspension now is Harrison’s “history.” Well, that history is at least partially contrived. The hit on McCoy was clearly punishable. But, it should have been a fine, not suspension.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
The Steelers bring a lot of it on themselves though.
They are just so obstinate about their opinion that they aren’t doing anything wrong. I thought the suspension was a little bit much too, but what else is left to do? The team doesn’t seem to be getting the message.
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by jesse. on Dec 17, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It would be helpful if the media didn't vilify the Steelers
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
I agree here . . .
This is a leadership moment and MT must convey to these guys that their public performance of this issue has clearly become counterproductive.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Yeah, that's a can or worms there.
I’m becoming less and less impressed with Mike Tomlin’s ability to keep this team under control.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
The other thing I think...
Is that the college coaches need to do a better job of coaching these kids. You can’t fine Taylor Mays, but seriously, that kid was trying to kill people out there. Including himself. His hit against Jordan Norwood would have pulled a 50K fine in the league, your lucky if you get a flag in college ball.
I’ve seen three hits (at least) today, in two totally non-descript college games, that would pull fines in the league. None of them were flagged. The NFL is dealing with a lot of really talented guys, many of which were coached either poorly, selfishly, or both.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
As tired as this explanation sounds,
it does go back to coaching fundamentals, to certainly include tackling. Additionally, highlight content rewards the violent hit. Remember the “Jacked-Up” segment on ESPN’s Monday night show. Too many keep yacking about getting some notoriety seemingly unaware of that term’s association with dishonorable attention. The word’s application has become perversely correct in this context.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
I'm a Steelers fan
And I actually think the suspension is justifiable. The NFL keeps fining Harrison, and yet he still refuses to tackle guys below the shoulders. McCoy is not a RB, he isn’t going to juke anybody out. Harrison could’ve and should’ve put his hat in McCoy’s midsection, still demolished him, and come away clean. Instead he simply ducked his head at the last second and put the crown on McCoy’s facemask.
I love the guy, I love the intensity he plays with, just wish he had some discipline.
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Me too.
just wish he had some discipline.
Going from watching Penn State’s team discipline (recent events notwithstanding) to watching the Steelers can be maddening. The penalties, the illegal hits, Antonio Brown, I get frustrated sometimes.
Just as an aside, I have never seen a player that is as obviously as talented as Antonio Brown is, who is less fun to watch. I mean, if Curtis Drake still feels the need to knock somebody else out, I recommend him.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I mean...
I used to love watching T.O. play for the Eagles. I can’t stand Brown.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I agree on Brown.
His act is embarrassing.
As for Harrison, yep…he deserved the suspension. Dude is a thug, but a helluva player.
Burgers are paranoid almost to the point of insanity about the league and the Steelers. The league is NOT out to get them. They bring all this “attention” on themselves. Best one I heard last week was a fan who said the league has been against the Steelers ever since Obama appointed Rooney as ambassador to Ireland. Yep, they’re that paranoid!
I don't know....
Paranoid? I don’t think so (notwithstanding the Rooney thing, which I had never heard). The Steelers are one of the most popular teams in the league, and they are pretty clear in their distaste for these new rules. They are the obvious place to start if you are trying to make a point. James Harrison specifically. I do think the league has a bit of vendetta against the Steelers, but like I said above, a fair amount of it is self inflicted.
Here is the other thing. They’re 10-3. They’ve gone to the Super Bowl 3 times in 5 years and they’ve won two. They’re really good. Part of the reason is that they are a real scary squad. These hit play a role. Harrision hit McCoy, who comes back a few plays later (because Roethlisberger came back, and he had to prove he was tough too). 60 inch HD TV’s don’t lie, that kid had a concussion. I said so before the play started. What’s he do? Throws a stupid interception. Ballgame. I almost got lynched on the Steeler blog over this, but that is the exact shit Buddy Ryan used to pull in Philly, it’s just a bit more subtle.
That’s why they don’t knock it off. That’s why Harrison got suspended. That’s why it’s not paranoia. Nobody wants to admit that their favorite team plays a little dirty. But the Steelers play a little dirty. The standard is the standard (except when it’s the expectation).
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
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you best not miss.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 17, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
ok I know im a bad person when....
This is all that went through my mind….
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See, I went with Jump Around.
The whole Irish thing I guess.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
LOL MainLion
on another day, that would have been mine….. but Ive been guitar heavy all day….
my playlist this morning started with Godsmack and finished with Suicidal Tendencies….
Ive been weirdly aggressive all day… sigh… gotta get back to the gym at some point…
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I was explaining......
how I was on a flight from SFa couple months ago and heard a drunk white guy talking to a huge hispanic looking guy who had a stocking cap on with long pigtails and NBA type warmup gear and tatoos……the WG asked the dude if he was going to Atlanta to try out for the Falcons and this guy kept giving him one word under his breath answers and the drunk WG just kept on and on. I thought this guys was going to break his neck. Anyhow, the point is I was descibing the hispanic guy to a younger guy at a bar I was at and I said……he looked like he could have been security for Suicidal Tendencies and the kid had no idea who I was talking about. I felt old. Saw ST open for Queensryche back in the day by the way. lol.
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-Abraham Lincoln
Eric Watters
Atlanta, Ga.
nice show..
saw queensryche with oddly enough the mighty mighty bosstones… I dont know how that pairing came up….
saw ST with infectious grooves…. that was a fun show..
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"Lights.. Camera... Revolution" is a classic album
You can’t bring me down, bitches!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxcJW6bs5os&ob=av2e
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
And whoever hacked McG's twitter
deleted the tweet that he had been hacked. Class, right there.
Fire Dan Snyder
Situation was over hyped.. this type of stuff happens across the nation.. me and C Drake r cool
Seems like everything else was deleted
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Time to man up: Me and C Drake got into verbal disagreement on practice field, i felt embarrassed that things were said in front of team
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Situation started to cool down during remainder of practice, i was still pissed, C Drake wanted to clear the air with me in the locker room
I wanted no part to talk to Curtis at that moment, i gave him a piece of my mind, and i got what was coming to me
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Curtis did the right thing by trying to clear the air with me, i let my emotions get the best of me. I made a mistake, and i feel awful
I will like to apologize to Coach Bradley, my teammates, other coaches, and all the young fans that look up to me
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
and all the young fans that look up to me
I’d like to have a word or two with said young fans’ parents.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
True, but he is a starting QB at Penn State
And the underdog story is neat
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Does he have any young siblings?
He probably doesn’t need to apologize to them over twitter.
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He is Irish and most likely Catholic
I highly doubt he is an only child, just saying.
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by AriesGD on Dec 17, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This behavior should not be tolerated, and i will accept any punishment handed down to me.
All i ask is for privacy when talked about any injuries i may or may not of suffered. Thank You
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
I still think it may be hacked
because the obviously bogus tweets are still there, but the one that says he got hacked is gone.
Not sure how we could tell, though
Fire Dan Snyder
Maybe the hacker was the one who wrote that he was hacked.
Matt McGloin’s concussion is like Being John Malkovich.
McGloin hacked his own account.
Genius this kid.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
A hack inside a hack?
Inception.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
META
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 17, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
TWO MEN ENTER
ONE MAN LEAVES!
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 17, 2011 6:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
mac
Makes his mea culpa on twittee
When you put those black shoes on tomorrow, and you put on that jersey without your name on the back, and you put that plain helmet on, that's tradition. Penn State tradition!
--Who else?
by run4peach on Dec 17, 2011 6:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Even if there was a fight...
I think Metallica has a song that explains how we should all feel about this….So What.
Fights happen every day and were somewhat passively encouraged every so often when I played. Lets the coaches know everyone still has a little vinegar running through their veins.
by rodney20 on Dec 17, 2011 6:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Heavy metal and mullets works in the NHL.
Why not here?
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
I know . . .
But I listen to the NHL Home Ice on the XM quite a bit. Half of the on-air guys are performing a dated caricature which actually seems to resonate in an odd way. They can introduce anything with Judas Priest, eh?
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
It's Canada.
They’re always at least a decade behind us in everything. This was discussed on an episode of MST3k (Zombie Nightmare, I think).
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 17, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Also discussed in an episode of How I Met Your Mother
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by Kyle_Martin on Dec 18, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s be honest at this point I don’t care who plays qb as long as some can hand the ball of to Redd that’s all I really want.
I should probably be a bigger man and not slyly grin
about the image of McG getting cold cocked. But I can’t help myself. Not to go all internet tough guy, but this shit shoulda happened two years ago probably.
(of course, I am assuming all my thoughts on McG’s attitude are true….maybe Drake is really the punk?)
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
Organized team sports is 35 years in my rearview mirror,
so maybe the culture has shifted. But, I remember stuff like this winding up positive all around more times than not.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Wasn't Drake involved in a fracas (love that word) with Taran Bouie?
Still, I wish someone should have done this at halftime of the Florida game.
"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13
by kijana's acl on Dec 17, 2011 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
McG wasn't fazed by 5 picks in that game
getting dropped by a WR in front of the entire team won’t either
#IRISHMOXIENEVERDIES
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
So is it settled then?
Drake shows a bit more toughness, gets the start at QB?
by FB_Dive_or_Bust on Dec 17, 2011 6:55 PM EST reply actions
And after the "apology" (if real)
McGloin takes his twitter account private.
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Now it's deleted
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Few thing...
1) the university needs to come up with social media policy..
2) drake is gone IMO..
3) new staff asap
death penalty!
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
For Drake?
The university?
Both?
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
I agree with 1)
2) I don’t think is so clear. From what I’ve pieced together from the twitter (and ignoring everything that came from Matt’s page) Matt and Drake were having a back and forth in practice, Drake came up to him in the locker room after to make amends, Matt started it up again. This is where it becomes unclear, the seizure thing I don’t think has been truly confirmed yet but somehow Matt ended up on the ground and had a seizure or was hit, some reports say the seizure occured and Drake didn’t actually hit him while he was down, while other reports don’t indicate a seizure and say that Drake popped him and he was knocked out. They may not be mutually exclusive.
But let’s not go all ESPN on them and actually wait for the facts before opinions are formed.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
Drakes 3rd incident...
Bad PR, got to walk away…
New AD wont stand or this
Eh
I think if we counted fights amongst teammates at practices half the team would have 3 incidents under their belts. This is probably the least intentional of all.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
So...
I just got done driving 10 hours back to PA and see this…can anyone give me the 30 second summary?
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
Possible fight between McGloin and Drake
Not real sure what actually happened. Some trash talking during practice, got in locker room. Supposedly Drake tried to talk to McGloin, he didn’t want to. McGloin either suffered a seizure or was knocked out by Drake. Team meeting called, not sure what came of it all. McGloin twitter account hacked, everything conflicting.
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Thanks
And now I get drunk
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 17, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
We all should
Divas don't burn. We’ll walk away from the explosion calmly and without looking back, like the badass character in a movie
Laschout tweets "McGloin not only QB in trouble"
Paul Jones grades?
Technically, he was in high school. Technically so was Belton.
A direct snap RB with the option to throw if shit gets retarded does not make you a QB. Hence, the Tebow debate for two months.
.
by PSUinOH on Dec 18, 2011 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's my first thought
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Do tell
"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13
by kijana's acl on Dec 17, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Good grief.
First Scooter gets hit with a puck at the Flyers game, now Matty and Drake have a verbal altercation/possible punch/possible seizure?
This is insane. And becoming one of those days were I wish I didn’t care so much about sports.
Except our top graduation rates
Because, you know, fuck that not important stuff.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 17, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Seriously, what is this?
A college program? Graduate?
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by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 17, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody else wanting to help fight the trolls on yahoo?
Just copy & paste this in
MICHAEL- He also went directly to the head of university police. You know what? I’d say that’s terrible if somebody saw something that disgusting. BUT PATERNO STILL WENT TO THE MAN IN CHARGE OF POLICE. YOU CANNOT SAY HE DID NOTHING
it got 8 upvotes and no downvotes, so I think people agree with me
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Bolden dealing with "unspecified legal issue"
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According to sources.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 17, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like an underage
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by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 17, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Not an underage
Think no meal points and you’re closer
by AlmostAYardShy on Dec 17, 2011 8:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dine and dash?
"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13
by kijana's acl on Dec 17, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, a guy's gotta eat.
I don’t think that would impact his game eligibility.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 17, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Don't they have training table?
guess it could be off campus.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 17, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
The team ate in the normal dining hall for breakfast, maybe lunch too.
At least they did when I lived in Pollack.
I think your both right.
There is a training table, but it is in a dining hall. Pollack would make sense because most of the players live in Nittany Appartments.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Forget what I said about having someone hand off to Redd. Just direct snap to redd at this point. I’m done with this QB business.
by psuwresfan on Dec 17, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So was PSU after Clark graduated, apparently.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 17, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rudderless ship
fuckin Mayans dude
we are on the eve of some Mayan shit
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
If the heisman was given out on December 23rd, the world would explode
Because Paul Jones would be up there to receive it
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 17, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
I vaguely remember from when I was like 11 a Barry McGuire song
talkin’ about we’re standin’ on the eve of some Mayan shit. I think that’s it exactly.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
AND TELLLL MEEEEEE
OVER AND OVER AGAIN MY FRIEND……. Cant say the last part, cuz, I’m worried you’re right.
by phillyinvegas on Dec 17, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
wow
me and barry are on the same level
never heard of that before now
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
Good news everybody!
I found Fat Tire at my local grocer! No more bleach fumes for me. Time to get drunk like a responsible adult!
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
Gradulations.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 18, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions
"I found Fat Tire at my local grocer!"
man I’m jealous
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
Beer
I’m drinking all of it. Gettin’ drunj.
by speedotito on Dec 17, 2011 9:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just got done brewing some beer...
to come back to BSD for this.
Experimenting with an apparently old PA Dutch recipe from “Pow-wows, or, The Long Lost Friend.” It’s made from molasses. Probably going to suck. But couldn’t resist giving it a try. Had a few home brews while doing it… a heavily dry-hopped Irish stout. Tasty.
But now I’m on to tequila.
Maybe I’ll get in a fight. I’m 3/4 Irish and fairly cocky, and I now have to restore the good reputation of my kinfolk.
by BNittsDeMilo on Dec 18, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
My father-in-law does.
Apparently, his grandmother used to practice a lot of the different things in the book. We were reading it last Christmas and came upon a recipe for beer (seemed odd to me). The recipe was totally unique in comparison to anything I’ve seen made so I wrote it down. I found the recipe the other day and I’m making it.
by BNittsDeMilo on Dec 18, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
if you wouldnt mind....
let me know how it comes out ok?
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Relax have a homebrew!
I did a 15gal all grain “Dogfish 60 min IPA” clone today. OG 1.070. Kinda wish that 10% ABV was finished to help me deal with this PSU mess.
BTW, black strap molasses in beer is very similar to brewing with treacle (sp?). I believe Treacle is used in Yuengling Porter and other porters. I would bet your beer will be awesome.
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by PSUinOH on Dec 18, 2011 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There can only be one
I guess Shane “The Highlander” MacGregor will have to play QB.
by reedjohnmiller on Dec 18, 2011 1:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions
It has become clear to our tailgate group
That Shane McGregor = Ronnie “Sunshine” Bass
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 18, 2011 8:03 AM EST up reply actions
Can someone separate the pepper from the fly shit?
About all these situations re McGloin, Drake, Bolden, et al.? I’m exhausted from trying to chase rumors — would rather hear accurate info.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
I don't think there's enough accurate info out there
at least nothing corroborated that we know exactly what did or did not happen.
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Dec 18, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Which is why we need to cool our collective jets a bit, NC.
There is a tone of near-hysteria, what with the JS situation, this, and now Bolden’s “minor” legal situation. Let’s all back away from the ledge.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Dec 18, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
So we should wait until we have all the facts?
In the information age?? Waiting for all the facts is so pre-Al Gore.
It would be irresponsible.
Given all of the space age speculation technology that we have available to us.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
You mean like Tang?
And space age polymers??
One word....
Plastics.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
You guys make me feel so old.
Kiss my grits, everyone of you!
J/k!!
Al Gore? You mean the individual single-handedly responsible for global warming as he eats his way towards Dec 21, 2012?
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Dec 18, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, It's all ball bearings these days!!
Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I’m gonna need ’bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.
/Fletch’d
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 18, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I completely agree
Which is why I haven’t posted much of anything on this subject. We don’t know much yet.
Fire Dan Snyder
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